Went to my local Toyota dealer today and sat in one >> (I use to own a previous gen ‘17 BRZ, currently driving a 718) -The seat is still spot on, one of the most comfortable driver seats available in any car. (Yes, it’s better than my 718 seat) -I noticed the bulge is gone from the dashboard which is great, which makes the dashboard lower now, making the whole car feel lower and improving visibility. -No dealer markup and maintenance will be cheap and reliability high. I was unable to order a manual in Neptune Blue. The dealer is not accepting orders at this time and 99% of the GR86’s that come in are automatics. I gave the salesman all my info and told him to call me when a car with my specs gets allocated. I may have to wait a while, but eventually, I’ll get the car I want. This will be my 6th Toyota/Lexus vehicle & can’t wait to get another in the garage. -love the new infotainment system, looks, performs & feels so much better now.
I luckily was able to order a premium with a manual trans in neptune blue. I had to put down a $1000 deposit for it though. Looks like I will also be waiting a long while.
I'm very proud of you for your channel. Great POV video. You've really done your part in saving the manuals and portraying this car's purpose. Excellent job of putting me the viewer in the seat for a drive, getting a sense of acceleration and suspension, and making the vehicle desirable.
@@MilesPerHr I have a deposit down for one, but I'm torn between the manual or automatic. I'm not a race car driver, and I'm going to be using for a daily driver. Where I live if the stop sign doesn't get you, the stop light or traffic will, so the thought of a manual transmission doesn't sound that appealing.
I just sold my 718 to get one of these. The GR86 has more to offer, believe it or not. Here’s the basics of what I’ve learned > The $60k 718 didn’t have Apple CarPlay, alcantara, LED lights, Dual Zone Climate Control and a few other things that this car comes with standard. Sure, you can add all those things to the 718, but the price will creep up near $70-80k. Yes, the 718 had 300hp vs the 228hp in the GR86, but the 718 was also 300lbs heavier and that extra hp is not a huge difference and 0-60 in the 718 is only 3/4 of a second faster. The suspension in the GR86 also beats the base suspension in the 718. The seats are nicer in the GR86 as well. Don’t forget about the maintenance too. A oil change for the Porsche will run you $400, while the GR86 only costs $70, not to mention all the cheap mods you can get for the GR86. You have to sell your soul in order to pay for Porsche mods. Basically, I’ll be buying a set of larger wheels/tires, dropping in some KW coilovers and I’ll have a great handling sports car for half the cost of a Cayman. Why am I saying all of this? Because, I’ve owned 3 Caymans (987, 981 and 718) and also driven the both generations of the 86 & it’s the truth, in my opinion.
Excellent review, thx! was thinking about getting a 3 series m340 in a couple of years, but man this toyota is so enthusiastic and pure and looks even more badass with a little tweak of aero tuning and new wheels. One could really feel that you enjoyed the gt86 and that you like doing what you do.
Kicking myself right now for not immediately jumping on that manual GR86 I saw a few weeks ago for 29k. Now it's sold and I'm forced to look out of state to find a manual.
The one minor gripe I have with this so far and I hope it gets fixed with a third party mod or even better by a software update -- Is the gear shift number being insanely slow to update on the dashboard/tach.
@@Akwa47 I mean yeah of course but the least they could do is just make the software instantly match the gear, no? Not like necessary but it is a creature comfort of sorts
300 hp or even 280 would be the perfect power for this car the fact is you can still get a almost 500 hp mustang for 5 to 6 grand more if it had more power it would have been sitting in my driveway already but i still really want one its still a awesome car
Was the orange light on your left side rear view mirror the blind spot monitoring @ 7:15 ? I know the manual doesn't have the Toyota sense safety features but at least blind spot monitoring would be cool!
I’m saving up for the GR86 I’m only 19 and some legit clown me for liking it or even trying to save up for it. I wanna get the Base Spec cause I like it I don’t need the Premium. But I can’t do stick sadly i don’t know how and where I live it’s a near if you have one. So I’ll go with automatic but I still love this car it’s like (for me) if I can’t get the Supra which is a dream car… I’ll get something… close like it’s baby brother
No one knows how to drive stick until they learn. I’ve heard that this is one of the best and easiest manuals to learn on. Find someone to teach you! Good luck, hope you can get one soon.
@@bluesky4917 toyota usually has all of their cars getting an oil change after their first 10k miles, which is a little high in my opinion. But obviously their reliabilty shows they know what they’re talking about
I want this car so bad, got 9k saved up for it, hope I get it one day, Ive heard insurance companies have it blacklisted in Canada up until 25 years old...
@@nmhp7659 yes thats 100% right, the biggest difference between NA and Turbo engine cars is when you accelerate uphill or you drive with 3 - 4 people in the Car, the Turbo Car smokes the NA Car.
@@alengreen589 it's easy to install an turbo or supercharger in this car yes but it's gonna cost you then this is gonna be a monster especially with its ultimate advantage lightweight
My only complaint is that it should be a hatchback, just to add some utility compared to the Miata. The interior layout is amazing, especially the dashboard, even tho I’m not a fan of touch screens in cars, it is still the dashboard all other cars should aspire to, rather than going in teslas direction. Tesla is literally not the future if the cars are built to die in just 8 years.
When you fold the passenger seat forward, does it still slide back by itself or does it lock in place like the driver seat? This been one of my issues but can never find any review of people testing it out of the new 2022. Just a random thing that bothers every now and then as it can get a little annoying once a while.
The passenger seat will automatically slide forward when you pull the seat back up. The driver seat will not slide forward when you pull the seat back up, you have to pull the slide lever on the bottom front of the seat. This is because the designers didn’t want you to lose the seats distance position if you’re just placing or retrieving items from the rear seat area.
@@DriverGuy23 Thanks a lot. I definitely understand the driver seat but for my 2014, the passenger seat would not stay forward or in the same spot; it would slide back which some times made it difficult in putting stuff in the back seats some times.
I wish it had a taller overdrive gear, I never shift into 6th gear in normal driving, but 3k rpm at 75mph in sixth is a bit much for a modern sports car, that's the same as the miata but this car has more power and displacement.
I have a infiniti m37x and they are cheap and faster than what your driving I found that m37x for 10k and 160mph can do max but i think the gr86 is a better option
Planning on getting one next year. My dad keeps shitting on me telling me it’s not worth it and he immigrated to this country and was forced to drive Manuel cars cause that’s all he could afford. But he just doesn’t get it!!!! Iv watched initial d I’m ready
Hey Miles, first time viewer but I loved your review of the GR86! How was the sound system in comparison to the bose in ND? I’m coming from a soft top ND2 and I felt the audio quality was decent under 40mph, and then the wind and noise made it mostly unenjoyable. Wondering if the GR86 is an improvement in either sound quality or wind/road noise.
Hey Dylan, thanks for watching/commenting! The sound insulation of a coupe like the 86 helps a lot, so it's hard to say if the audio would be as good if the 86 was a soft top like the ND2. The bass hits well in the ND2 and there's good volume, but the clarity isn't incredible. The ND2's speakers in the headrests help at low speeds, like you said, but there's only so much that can be done with a porous top.
i followed you because i know that area seeing the city driving portion. you're a local after owning he car for a while now is there complains you can tell me since i will be buying one soon.
I actually don't own this car (though I wish I did). Like all the cars on my channel, I only reviewed it as a 7-day loan. I haven't heard any big owner complaints about the new GR86, though
I think I would still take a used 987 base boxster/cayman for similar or less money. Can't beat a bargain flat 6 manual, hydraulic power steering mid engine sports car.
I'm not sure where your legal education is sourced, but if the front axle of a vehicle crosses the plane of the intersection before the light turns red, it is considered a yellow light. Fun fact: a yellow light doesn't turn any more yellow the longer it's up. It's either yellow, or it's red.
Boxer engines have never been the most efficient engines. They will always have worse fuel economy than their inline and V counterparts, displacement to displacement.
i thought bro was gonna absolutely send it but it was jus a turn radius test 😭
Went to my local Toyota dealer today and sat in one >> (I use to own a previous gen ‘17 BRZ, currently driving a 718)
-The seat is still spot on, one of the most comfortable driver seats available in any car. (Yes, it’s better than my 718 seat)
-I noticed the bulge is gone from the dashboard which is great, which makes the dashboard lower now, making the whole car feel lower and improving visibility.
-No dealer markup and maintenance will be cheap and reliability high.
I was unable to order a manual in Neptune Blue. The dealer is not accepting orders at this time and 99% of the GR86’s that come in are automatics. I gave the salesman all my info and told him to call me when a car with my specs gets allocated. I may have to wait a while, but eventually, I’ll get the car I want. This will be my 6th Toyota/Lexus vehicle & can’t wait to get another in the garage.
-love the new infotainment system, looks, performs & feels so much better now.
I luckily was able to order a premium with a manual trans in neptune blue. I had to put down a $1000 deposit for it though. Looks like I will also be waiting a long while.
@@andrewnguyen4382 putting in my order for neptune blue premium with the manual trans on monday, cant wait
@@vinny9fingers underrated color imo
I got mine with the exact same spects you want coming tmrw can’t wait!
I work at Toyota so Ik when exactly it should be here
I’m happy to see Toyota still offering a manual option. Save the manuals!
in your country thei didn't offer manual option for every car? only automatic?
@@brucedickinson8993 in the us there are barely any manual cars
I'm very proud of you for your channel. Great POV video. You've really done your part in saving the manuals and portraying this car's purpose.
Excellent job of putting me the viewer in the seat for a drive, getting a sense of acceleration and suspension, and making the vehicle desirable.
Thank you for the support and feedback - I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@@MilesPerHr I have a deposit down for one, but I'm torn between the manual or automatic. I'm not a race car driver, and I'm going to be using for a daily driver. Where I live if the stop sign doesn't get you, the stop light or traffic will, so the thought of a manual transmission doesn't sound that appealing.
The most thorough test drive I've watched. Horn AND windshield wipers! Turn radius is important. Bravo!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I just sold my 718 to get one of these. The GR86 has more to offer, believe it or not. Here’s the basics of what I’ve learned >
The $60k 718 didn’t have Apple CarPlay, alcantara, LED lights, Dual Zone Climate Control and a few other things that this car comes with standard. Sure, you can add all those things to the 718, but the price will creep up near $70-80k. Yes, the 718 had 300hp vs the 228hp in the GR86, but the 718 was also 300lbs heavier and that extra hp is not a huge difference and 0-60 in the 718 is only 3/4 of a second faster. The suspension in the GR86 also beats the base suspension in the 718. The seats are nicer in the GR86 as well. Don’t forget about the maintenance too. A oil change for the Porsche will run you $400, while the GR86 only costs $70, not to mention all the cheap mods you can get for the GR86. You have to sell your soul in order to pay for Porsche mods. Basically, I’ll be buying a set of larger wheels/tires, dropping in some KW coilovers and I’ll have a great handling sports car for half the cost of a Cayman.
Why am I saying all of this? Because, I’ve owned 3 Caymans (987, 981 and 718) and also driven the both generations of the 86 & it’s the truth, in my opinion.
That's great feedback as a Cayman owner! Of course, the KWs are going to mess with the GR86's relatively compliant suspension, but to each his own!
This is a real man's asmr bro. I am on the edge of my seat!
Good morning Miles, that Toyota looks like a little angel .. I wish you a Happy New Year and success in everything you do dear friend.
Good Morning, Elier! Happy New Year and I'm so grateful for your continued support!
@@MilesPerHr Don't worry.
Excellent review, thx! was thinking about getting a 3 series m340 in a couple of years, but man this toyota is so enthusiastic and pure and looks even more badass with a little tweak of aero tuning and new wheels. One could really feel that you enjoyed the gt86 and that you like doing what you do.
Yeah but the BMW gets better gas mileage. You don't want to own a Subaru "performance" boxer engine long term.
@@aluisious For these cars gas mileage doesn’t matter imo
I'm glad that came across - I loved this car!
Went to do some spirited driving in my ND yesterday and ended up in a similar area. Great vid thanks for posting
what area was that? very scenic.
Love the ND - enjoy!
@@frankkociara4228 Somewhere in Southern California.
Looks like a cool little car. I like the interior and looks like it drives good and fun!
Bounce city! Looks like you're in an RS5. Love your videos, as always.
I’ve been waiting for this car!!
That side profile at 22 secs mark looks DAPPER ! I LOVE IT !
12:20 The only real reason I'm buying this car truth be told.
naturally aspirated engine, manual transmission and RWD it must mean a fun
Probably the most purist modern car you can buy!
it actually looks like it rides smoother than my 21 wrx.
Loved the audio. Kept looking behind me thinking someone was there!
Looks good, sounds good, priced well. Initial D ad for bonus. Success 👌
I daily drive a manual mustang and with current prices i wish i had a car like this ngl
Mine is coming in this Saturday, and being shipped to the dealer next Saturday. Neptune blue, premium; manual here we come 😩
Enjoy it!
Kicking myself right now for not immediately jumping on that manual GR86 I saw a few weeks ago for 29k. Now it's sold and I'm forced to look out of state to find a manual.
the startup sequence is great
The one minor gripe I have with this so far and I hope it gets fixed with a third party mod or even better by a software update -- Is the gear shift number being insanely slow to update on the dashboard/tach.
A true driver always knows what gear hes on
@@Akwa47 I mean yeah of course but the least they could do is just make the software instantly match the gear, no? Not like necessary but it is a creature comfort of sorts
Wow. Really fun video. Thank you very much. Looking forward to when my new GR86 comes in
300 hp or even 280 would be the perfect power for this car the fact is you can still get a almost 500 hp mustang for 5 to 6 grand more if it had more power it would have been sitting in my driveway already but i still really want one its still a awesome car
This is a really lightweight sports car. It wouldn’t make sense to put a big engine in a light car.
Was the orange light on your left side rear view mirror the blind spot monitoring @ 7:15 ? I know the manual doesn't have the Toyota sense safety features but at least blind spot monitoring would be cool!
the manual does have blind spot monitoring
Yep, that's blind spot monitoring
Man I miss my frs ! :(
226hp but looks awesome🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thinking about getting a manual one in red
Same here!
You make down shifting look easy.
Practice, practice
Wonderful Toyota, the exterior design is pretty cool
Is that only some countries has the spinning 86 on the meter during the startup? Here in US got the spinning GR in which I like the 86 more
Mình lại là người xem đầu tiên. Xe đẹp quá anh 😁😁
Top video! Mines coming soon
Enjoy it!
Man we didn't see any dorifto
Such a beautiful car
This is such a great review
this car MUST be aviable in germany
It will be
But I fear that there will be huge emission taxes
@@jansonb482oh scheiße
Sad that the GR to 86 logo startup will no longer be a thing for actual production, just a spinning GR logo :/
I’m saving up for the GR86 I’m only 19 and some legit clown me for liking it or even trying to save up for it. I wanna get the Base Spec cause I like it I don’t need the Premium. But I can’t do stick sadly i don’t know how and where I live it’s a near if you have one. So I’ll go with automatic but I still love this car it’s like (for me) if I can’t get the Supra which is a dream car… I’ll get something… close like it’s baby brother
No one knows how to drive stick until they learn. I’ve heard that this is one of the best and easiest manuals to learn on. Find someone to teach you! Good luck, hope you can get one soon.
Is it just me or does the side mirror bounce to the beat at 10:36 onwards?
it does w a lot of cars ive noticed
That Base hits hard 😃
@@MilesPerHr what's the clarity like? Sounded slightly distorted in the video but not sure if that's the microphone?
Do you have any specific break in routine? Or just drive it how you normally would and change the oil after 1k miles?
The driver’s manual suggest keeping it under 4K rpm for 1k miles. However, there is no mention of an oil change after the break in period.
this is a press car
@@bluesky4917 toyota usually has all of their cars getting an oil change after their first 10k miles, which is a little high in my opinion. But obviously their reliabilty shows they know what they’re talking about
That car is amazing and it’s just the way I like it also really google driving
why cruise around at 3k, instead of 2k
I want this car so bad, got 9k saved up for it, hope I get it one day, Ive heard insurance companies have it blacklisted in Canada up until 25 years old...
Oh, Canada...
Still really want to hear a before/after with the fake engine noise turned off.
great vid
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it
I’d trade in for the gr86 but it’s just the space on the inside that’s keeping me from doing so.
can you make how to drive manual car tutorial and thank you!
That would be a fun video, sure!
Am I the only one that noticed the change of the 86 logo on the rear?
The engine sound is exactly the same as my GT86.
Happy New Year Miles.
Happy New Year, Alen!
@@MilesPerHr thank you very much Miles.
the 86 accelerates really good for a non Turbo Car but the MPG is very horrible for a relative light Car with a 4 Cyl. and only 228 HP.
It's a monster on a mountain pass downhill ofc
@@nmhp7659 yes thats 100% right, the biggest difference between NA and Turbo engine cars is when you accelerate uphill or you drive with 3 - 4 people in the Car, the Turbo Car smokes the NA Car.
@@alengreen589 yup but there are many modifications available for an 86 it's a really good car for starters
@@alengreen589 it's easy to install an turbo or supercharger in this car yes but it's gonna cost you then this is gonna be a monster especially with its ultimate advantage lightweight
@@nmhp7659 thats right.
My only complaint is that it should be a hatchback, just to add some utility compared to the Miata. The interior layout is amazing, especially the dashboard, even tho I’m not a fan of touch screens in cars, it is still the dashboard all other cars should aspire to, rather than going in teslas direction. Tesla is literally not the future if the cars are built to die in just 8 years.
Have you ever got pulled over doing one of these videos ? Lol just curious
hes one the only one who pushes the cars which is good for testing
When you fold the passenger seat forward, does it still slide back by itself or does it lock in place like the driver seat? This been one of my issues but can never find any review of people testing it out of the new 2022. Just a random thing that bothers every now and then as it can get a little annoying once a while.
The passenger seat will automatically slide forward when you pull the seat back up. The driver seat will not slide forward when you pull the seat back up, you have to pull the slide lever on the bottom front of the seat. This is because the designers didn’t want you to lose the seats distance position if you’re just placing or retrieving items from the rear seat area.
@@DriverGuy23 Thanks a lot. I definitely understand the driver seat but for my 2014, the passenger seat would not stay forward or in the same spot; it would slide back which some times made it difficult in putting stuff in the back seats some times.
Passenger seats slides forward automatically
I wish it had a taller overdrive gear, I never shift into 6th gear in normal driving, but 3k rpm at 75mph in sixth is a bit much for a modern sports car, that's the same as the miata but this car has more power and displacement.
Did they change the animation on the digital screen? The GR logo spinning doesn't change to the 86 logo anymore?
So beautiful !
Well, I'd buy this
I love this car so much but its so unattainable where i live
12:22 🤩🤩
6:00 jesus christ put the 5th
I have a infiniti m37x and they are cheap and faster than what your driving I found that m37x for 10k and 160mph can do max but i think the gr86 is a better option
Planning on getting one next year. My dad keeps shitting on me telling me it’s not worth it and he immigrated to this country and was forced to drive Manuel cars cause that’s all he could afford. But he just doesn’t get it!!!! Iv watched initial d I’m ready
😂
Please do a vid on the 2022 hellcat next of 🙏❤️
It's been hard to get a 2022 Hellcat, but I'm working on the Jailbreak 😈
@@MilesPerHr even better I mean jailbreak 👀😮💨
Irvine let’s gooooooo
Hey Miles, first time viewer but I loved your review of the GR86! How was the sound system in comparison to the bose in ND?
I’m coming from a soft top ND2 and I felt the audio quality was decent under 40mph, and then the wind and noise made it mostly unenjoyable. Wondering if the GR86 is an improvement in either sound quality or wind/road noise.
Buying some sound insulation sheets for any sporty car makes a huge difference in daily usability and audio performance.
Hey Dylan, thanks for watching/commenting! The sound insulation of a coupe like the 86 helps a lot, so it's hard to say if the audio would be as good if the 86 was a soft top like the ND2. The bass hits well in the ND2 and there's good volume, but the clarity isn't incredible. The ND2's speakers in the headrests help at low speeds, like you said, but there's only so much that can be done with a porous top.
This sounds psychotic, but after seeing what this thing can do, I want THIS as my first car
Seems very reasonable (not psychotic) 😆
Same bro
such a pretty car
You drove past my house
Wish the roads I drive on were that sparsely populated.
10:55 The bass makes exterior mirrors shaking?
Yeah that thing bumps lol
i followed you because i know that area seeing the city driving portion. you're a local after owning he car for a while now is there complains you can tell me since i will be buying one soon.
I actually don't own this car (though I wish I did). Like all the cars on my channel, I only reviewed it as a 7-day loan. I haven't heard any big owner complaints about the new GR86, though
I think I would still take a used 987 base boxster/cayman for similar or less money. Can't beat a bargain flat 6 manual, hydraulic power steering mid engine sports car.
when you stop at a light do you just leave the car in neutral and hold the brake or do u pull the hand brake
Much better put it in neutral
It sound like Subaru Chime 2:29
I mean it IS a Subaru
What was that DOPE beat played during the sound test?!
I'm not sure the exact song name, but all my music comes from the Streambeats Hip Hop playlist on Spotify.
Those honda accord lights. Guh
Looks less aggressive that previous model
So, I hear this new one feels significantly less gutless?? The first gen Toyobaru twins were infamously lacking in grunt.
Definitely not gutless. I talk more about it in my POV Drive Revew: ruclips.net/video/uG3MSTkGxfU/видео.html
@@MilesPerHr Right on! Looking at getting one myself, but the everything shortage right now is preventing me from even taking a test drive.
After all its just a integra type r with out vtec in a way what you say
What dealership and city were you able to get this from?
I don't get these vehicles from dealerships. They are loans from the manufacturer.
toyotas for life watch when this car and the new corolla gr will destory honda
It would be nice if they removed the back seats and made a huge trunk/hatch area
You can at least fold them flat
Crazy that manuals are still a thing
It’s crazy that they’re not
Definitely Tustin / Orange area
2:57 and 3:01 what is that sound? my car does the same when it's hot outside :(
Sounds similar to when I had a front CV joint go out
can i change the logo to 86?
Casually running a super late yellow illegally @5:57
I'm not sure where your legal education is sourced, but if the front axle of a vehicle crosses the plane of the intersection before the light turns red, it is considered a yellow light. Fun fact: a yellow light doesn't turn any more yellow the longer it's up. It's either yellow, or it's red.
estos videos me relajan un monotn
Is this available for purchase ?
Yep! It's at dealers now
@@MilesPerHr time to go make some poor financial decisions 😎
Topspeed kph ?
I think I'll get an auto
Is it wired or wireless apple carplay?
Wired
Wired
How does a 2.4l naturally aspirated motor get worse gas mileage than a 3 liter turbo in a car that weighs 700 pounds more? (BMW 340i)?
Boxer engines have never been the most efficient engines. They will always have worse fuel economy than their inline and V counterparts, displacement to displacement.
I don’t like how clattery that engine sounds at idle.
Imagine this with a turbo on it :O
compression ratio is even higher now but there should be sc turbo kits soon for at least 300whp
Go watch Hagertys video on it if you want to understand why.