Love this film even with the flaws. At the end of the day I think we had the best cinematic version of Batman. Ben looks just like the Bruce Wayne cartoon he purposely smiled the way the cartoon did when he meets Clark for the first time. Great podcast as always
Ive got a movie from my childhood no one seems to remember. Ive found stuff on google, but no real reviews. You guys should check out 'Spaced Invaders'@BadMoviesRule
Ok why Lex is getting excited about introducing Bruce to Clark is bc he knows it’s Batman and Superman, that’s one of the reason he invited both of them there, it’s like a kid playing with his toys and he’s the one in on the joke and having fun with it.
To James’ point to this would be the time to skip the Wayne’s murder aka Bruce’s origin and go right into Batman is bc this Batman is the villain for the first hour and a half of the movie. The reason they did Bruce’s origin was to show 20 yrs later Bruce still dreams of this, Bruce’s monologue to TELL the audience where his Batman is at “they(becoming Batman) brought me to the light… a beautiful LIE” and the other reason was to remind the audience that Bruce’s mother’s name is Martha
To start the dream sequences were there to show Bruce’s ptsd that’s why before each dream u hear the sound of the Kryptonian world engine bc of the Black Zero event in metropolis that was shown in the beginning
The Ben Affleck Batman movie didn’t happen not bc of a couple reasons, first Affleck was supposed to direct it but his experience on JL with Whedon made him contemplate suicide so Affleck decided to not direct so then WB hired Matt Reeves to direct but Reeves did not want his Batman being part of the JL universe which is why Affleck left the project
As for Lex knowing who everyone is, he has files called the Metahuman thesis that he mentions in the beginning when talking about planetary defense or whatever. The files Batman sends Wonder Woman with the Justice League are Lex’s files, which I took as him pretty much doing his homework trying to find someone to kill Superman. It suck’s we don’t see him finding out but that’s what makes this reveal here hit home harder and when u watch the movie again knowing that Lex already knows everyone’s identity pretty much and see how he plays everyone
James, I know u said u will never watch the Ultimate Edition bc u can’t sit through 3 hours of it but I will say that with the UE u don’t even feel the 3 hours bc the pacing of the film flows really good whereas the theatrical version felt like 3 hours
What’s weird is I thought the cinematic version was better to watch in one sitting then the directors cut, the film looks great and I liked Batman in the sand storm with a gun
Ok so for the convenience of Bruce being invited to Lex’s party, there’s no convenience bc Lex purposely invited Bruce bc he WANTS him there to investigate get info on White Portuguese bc he WANTS him to kill Superman, Bruce is allowed to walk all around the party bc Lex wants give Bruce enough info he needs to take down Superman, he even makes a comment to him about coming to Metropolis to see what he’s been working on. And the Robin suit is not Jason Todd’s, it’s Dick Grayson’s, Zack wanted to use Dick bc his death would be a much more logical from an emotional standpoint than Jason Todd just for comic book accuracy His plan was to show Robin’s death from Batman and Joker’s point of view in JL2 during a last supper kinda deal before they go off and try and steal a mother box from Darkseid to use to power up the cosmic treadmill for Flash to go back in time to warn Bruce and save Lois from getting murdered by Darkseid
Bane in the comics was smart enough to deduce Batman was Bruce. Lex is a 8 or 9 level intellect. He could have figured it out. And Lex hates Superman because Superman's status as an alien, diminishes what Lex a human can attain and accomplish
41:52 MY. THOUGHTS. TO. A. TEE. They literally rushed the actual hell out of their own timeline. One Superman movie and boom hey the justice league? Like bro can I MEET THEM FIRST?!? Jesus 😂 they just wanted to have their own slice of the infinity war/endgame pie. And they could have if they weren’t so dumb about it cramming so much into one movie
The way they could of saved the whole "Martha" problem is right before he meets Bruce Wayne at the Lex Gala for the first time, when the photographer goes "that's Bruce Wayne you fucking idiot" So after the two meet, Clark has a funny feeling after hearing alfred in his ear and their "conversation" and decides to look into Bruce Wayne (on the internet or asks Lois about him or something) Then you could maybe have a throw away line where Clark sees they both of them have the same mothers name. So then when Batman and Superman meet, Superman x-rays Batmans cowl and knows it Bruce...So cut towards the Vs' part and in that last resort moment he uses their mother's as a way to hopefully stop Batman from killing him.. or something like that 😅
I think what he did was show what happens overpowered Titans fight in very populated areas people die so like Superman's depression was humanizing the same way he would go to his mom every single time that he was depressed
Ok it took a day to think about the workout thing lol. They could have put the workout in the beginning of the film. He has to work out daily to keep his physical strength. It’s cannon anyhow. That would make more sense. Show it’s part of his daily routine. To lift a weight for sups..didn’t make sense
To be honest, Batman v Superman still still ones of the awesome movie and still. It is first we get accurate Batman who actual look like comic Batman fighting like comic batman.
The theatrical cut is garbage, ultimate cut saves it. Another simple thing that would have redeemed it further and made the audience aware that these heroes are damaged because this isnt Earth prime but more like a backwater Earth vs Darksied is have Luthor reveal to Bruce at the end of the film that he is aware of darksied who has destroyed and beaten the justice league over and over across the multiverse. Setting up the fact this this dysfunctional earth with no justice league stands no chance, thus raising the stakes. Just like 2 sentences would have done so much for the film not to mention inform the audience that yes this Supes kills, this Bats kills because this isnt the Earth prime version and was never meant to be.
I’m with James you can’t have your guy who’s the symbol for hope be depressed Superman is supposed to be the most optimistic person it’s when he’s not that he’s scary
The Dark Knight the whole plot is Joker trying to get Batman to kill and at the end he kills Harvey Dent by pushing him off a building lol… but at least they established he has a no kill rule😂😂
Batman was trying to save Gordon’s son. The death of Harvey Dent was consequential. Only a total moron would conclude that he purposely broke his rule, as if it would be better had he just stood there and watched Harvey kill Gordon’s family. What a lawyerish take.
Once he said he loved Superman Returns I was out. Brandon did a great job of portraying the MoS, the movie itself was boring on all levels. It was just Superman the movie retold and I’ve seen that movie a billion times. This is what I tell people, most people don’t want the truth, justice and the American way because what does that mean in this climate today. What is the American way in today’s time? What is truth, when half the country the country and media are lying? What is justice when you see people being wrongly convicted of crimes and people who are guilty getting away with no type of justice being handed out? It’s fine if that’s what you like but the most of us live in the actual world where these things just seem to not be the case.
Man of steel ... superman saved the earth lol . He barely learned how to fly . Never fought anyone . I love that for superman . ... i love man of steel and batman v superman . Great movies that will stand the test of time.
Jeremy Irons is my personal favorite Alfred in all films, Jesse was easily the worst Lex, and Amy Adams is also dog doo-doo in these movies.... Personally I think Zac Snyder's Justice League can blow. It's not good.
Dude... did you not watch MoS? He's constantly saving people mid fight, but there's only so much you can do while someone is beating the shit out of you. Again, Snyder gave these movies stakes, instead of just not showing consequences like The Avengers.
Ok, just started watching, but throwing my opinion out before I hear yours. This movie straight up sucks. I couldn't even finish it. And that's wild for me. I've sat through some really bad films before. Couldn't do it for this one. I could lie and say I'll give it another chance. But I won't. Big clunker of a movie
@@6O8gamer07 nobody believes your claim that you JUST started watching this film. Unless you been living under a rock or never watched a movie before it’s highly unlikely
@@bofawhatsbofa4593 Bruh. I was talking about the podcast lol. I just started watching the podcast, paused it to comment before I heard their opinions.
@@RockyRoyale84 yeah turned out he was a scumbag - but didn’t know that at the time and as a fan of Christopher Reeves, I appreciated that Singer made a follow-up in a similar vein.
@BadMoviesRule thanks for the engagement, I actually really love the podcast and have already listened to the Cabin Fever, Lost World and BvS podcasts. You guys are fuckin hilarious and on point most of the time. Just stumbled upon you yesterday.
if you watch carefuly camptain amarica civil war they have the same plot as BvS, same politics after destruction, the rich guy taking care of people at an old age and conveniently for the plot, un acto terrorista en la corte, a master mind but well simo was way better write, and at the end the mom comflict with tony losing control but no one dies at the end, but is the same arc, what I hate for BsV is that zack use like 8 diferent plots from original comics in 1 movie just hate it and I really really hate that scene where clark ask - who is him? and stupid Jimmy Kimmel says- is bruce wayne WTF he is the second best journalist from dairy planet they use that stupid guy insted of Jimmy Olsen WTF (who get a re-imagined role as a CIA agent who dies in few seconds of movie just like jonathan kent in man of steel) damm the writer should be black listed forever omg
Love zack's DC trilogy like nothing is This genre....its way more powerfull,engaging and appeling to me sow This versions of This characters with This realistic aproachs Its a shame in not let the man finish is full vision....and yeah i think every Batman fan live that moral code of no killing but when you aproach and realistic takes even more if it is in movies its very complicated to handle such think when the movie if full of great actions scenes,an great example is nolan Batman who clearly stated his one rule but right after in the first film he broke that killing a lot actually he kill in the intire trilogy, rising a plot hole in that argument ....so i say wich is worst ,state he does not kill and will broke that promess creating a plot hole ,or do it with the balls to confront the reality aproach in self defense or some innocents.... a man who fights crime sevearly punishing in a hardcore way breakin several bones and Brain injuries possibly in ocasiona left then in chair weals its ok ,just left him alive to suffer even more!!we all know batman wont kill if necessarly for his own self decense or ithers innocents people....all cinema Batman does even this new the Batman did if you pay attention,but why only one is criticized when even he kill in several comic books in arkham games....so its very complicated to protect something that was gonna be Impossible to pretend is not happen even when its fully untentinaly....and other major thing taht almost everyone i sow debating this topic always miss from take into account is, the needed of an characrer study , what leads him to do what he do and why that happen...with Ben Afflecks Batman we get much easy way why he cross that line, why he lost faith in mankind ,Soo,to understand his actions and why he broke that live promess make a lot of Sense and facilitates better acceptance....i've so much to talk in defense if this movie ,just gonna say this lex luthor despite a lotbsay is kind a joker or riddler and its not,actually is very accurate from his origins lije was in birthright and if you dint know taake a look to the comic book even visualy is equal,,,he was a sort of mad scientist ,very clever guy with a mental issues and a lot of disorders.... and to me was very well executed on film but people always tried to compared to some other character,zack want to developt all main characters around next movies ,we sow in the end of zs jl lex was ready for his new path in order to became the lex that all we know....
There is many things about this movie that I enjoy and there's a lot I think is plain stupid. The main issue I had with the infamous 'Martha' scene is that I always assumed that Bruce Wayne knows who Superman is, he knows his identity and about his background growing up in Smallville so I never got why he doesn't know his mothers name. The idea that Bruce Wayne & Alfred, with all their technology, could not work out Clark Kent is Superman seemed absurded. Also the fight scene pissed me off when Superman gets gassed the 2nd time. The 1st time makes sense because he catches the grenade and gets surprised by the kryponite gas but the 2nd he's regained his powers and could fly out and laser the building in half but instead he sees Batman reload his grenade and still runs at him. I get that they had to make it more even but they made it dumb.
🤦🏽♂️man this was a BAD take. Like so many plot points and elements went soaring over your head. This is what happens when you’re used to marvel quips and spoon fed narratives for 15 years.
@@asnlunatic 9/10 when I hear people’s complaints about mos/bvs/ or JL it’s almost always people who weren’t paying attention to the film or misremembered. Rarely is it a legit criticism. And this video literally proved it
Reeves was great for the time Henry elevated the character to the highest heights of all time. Americans hate that he isn't American The whole world loves him because he isn't American. Superman and batman will never be better than what Zack created Zack made a brute batman Miller made a twink batman Reeves wore his underwear on the outside and he was basically skinny Henry is jacked and wears armour So Get the hell out of here with that BS of Henry isn't the best Superman
Love this film even with the flaws. At the end of the day I think we had the best cinematic version of Batman. Ben looks just like the Bruce Wayne cartoon he purposely smiled the way the cartoon did when he meets Clark for the first time. Great podcast as always
Thanks brother!
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I refuse to believe Superman didn’t smell the pee in the jar during the hearing 🤣
😂😂 great point - I hadn’t even considered
Uncle Ben from Spider-Man gets killed more than anybody else lol
I'll see your Uncle Ben, and I'll raise you a Kenny McCormick.
And he's the only character from the comics to never come back from the dead.
Ok why Lex is getting excited about introducing Bruce to Clark is bc he knows it’s Batman and Superman, that’s one of the reason he invited both of them there, it’s like a kid playing with his toys and he’s the one in on the joke and having fun with it.
Facts.... He was a super weirdo too 😂😂😂
There are 2 things I never get tired of. The Arnold impersonations and the Christian Bale Batman voice impersonations.
What was the oldies song playing in the background while they were fighting about the lighting in TDK and BVS. It's in my head 😂
Great episode. Y'all had me dying special when Bob and Ryan got heated, even Kurt got into it, and of course, James
I'm still waiting for them to watch Super Mario Bros from the 90's and master of disguise
To James’ point to this would be the time to skip the Wayne’s murder aka Bruce’s origin and go right into Batman is bc this Batman is the villain for the first hour and a half of the movie.
The reason they did Bruce’s origin was to show 20 yrs later Bruce still dreams of this, Bruce’s monologue to TELL the audience where his Batman is at “they(becoming Batman) brought me to the light… a beautiful LIE” and the other reason was to remind the audience that Bruce’s mother’s name is Martha
To start the dream sequences were there to show Bruce’s ptsd that’s why before each dream u hear the sound of the Kryptonian world engine bc of the Black Zero event in metropolis that was shown in the beginning
People didn’t notice that because they are used to being spoon fed plots
The Ben Affleck Batman movie didn’t happen not bc of a couple reasons, first Affleck was supposed to direct it but his experience on JL with Whedon made him contemplate suicide so Affleck decided to not direct so then WB hired Matt Reeves to direct but Reeves did not want his Batman being part of the JL universe which is why Affleck left the project
As for Lex knowing who everyone is, he has files called the Metahuman thesis that he mentions in the beginning when talking about planetary defense or whatever. The files Batman sends Wonder Woman with the Justice League are Lex’s files, which I took as him pretty much doing his homework trying to find someone to kill Superman.
It suck’s we don’t see him finding out but that’s what makes this reveal here hit home harder and when u watch the movie again knowing that Lex already knows everyone’s identity pretty much and see how he plays everyone
Great stuff 🎉
NOBODY wants another Batman origin story, showing why he’s “broken”. The studio knew everyone was tired of that, and on that they were correct.
True... Ben Affleck nailed & like always they screw it all up I think they are changing the whole justice league cast
James, I know u said u will never watch the Ultimate Edition bc u can’t sit through 3 hours of it but I will say that with the UE u don’t even feel the 3 hours bc the pacing of the film flows really good whereas the theatrical version felt like 3 hours
This is a great movie Ben did amazing as batman and Bruce
I like Ben as Batman 👍🏼
What’s weird is I thought the cinematic version was better to watch in one sitting then the directors cut, the film looks great and I liked Batman in the sand storm with a gun
150! LFG!
The yelling was tough to get through tbh. Glad things calmed dowm in the 2nd half!
Yeah that was the continuation of an 8 year argument between those two 😂
This episode is very old man yells at cloud. Wishing for the good old days
Ok so for the convenience of Bruce being invited to Lex’s party, there’s no convenience bc Lex purposely invited Bruce bc he WANTS him there to investigate get info on White Portuguese bc he WANTS him to kill Superman, Bruce is allowed to walk all around the party bc Lex wants give Bruce enough info he needs to take down Superman, he even makes a comment to him about coming to Metropolis to see what he’s been working on.
And the Robin suit is not Jason Todd’s, it’s Dick Grayson’s, Zack wanted to use Dick bc his death would be a much more logical from an emotional standpoint than Jason Todd just for comic book accuracy
His plan was to show Robin’s death from Batman and Joker’s point of view in JL2 during a last supper kinda deal before they go off and try and steal a mother box from Darkseid to use to power up the cosmic treadmill for Flash to go back in time to warn Bruce and save Lois from getting murdered by Darkseid
Bane in the comics was smart enough to deduce Batman was Bruce. Lex is a 8 or 9 level intellect. He could have figured it out. And Lex hates Superman because Superman's status as an alien, diminishes what Lex a human can attain and accomplish
Snyder's trilogy was operatic as fuck and I love it. Only thing that comes close is Nolan's Batman trilogy.
41:52 MY. THOUGHTS. TO. A. TEE.
They literally rushed the actual hell out of their own timeline. One Superman movie and boom hey the justice league? Like bro can I MEET THEM FIRST?!? Jesus 😂 they just wanted to have their own slice of the infinity war/endgame pie. And they could have if they weren’t so dumb about it cramming so much into one movie
I'm still wondering why Ben Affleck or Batman was dreaming about parademons & Keefe is in a wheel chair but he's also flash
The way they could of saved the whole "Martha" problem is right before he meets Bruce Wayne at the Lex Gala for the first time, when the photographer goes "that's Bruce Wayne you fucking idiot" So after the two meet, Clark has a funny feeling after hearing alfred in his ear and their "conversation" and decides to look into Bruce Wayne (on the internet or asks Lois about him or something) Then you could maybe have a throw away line where Clark sees they both of them have the same mothers name. So then when Batman and Superman meet, Superman x-rays Batmans cowl and knows it Bruce...So cut towards the Vs' part and in that last resort moment he uses their mother's as a way to hopefully stop Batman from killing him.. or something like that 😅
I think what he did was show what happens overpowered Titans fight in very populated areas people die so like Superman's depression was humanizing the same way he would go to his mom every single time that he was depressed
Ok it took a day to think about the workout thing lol. They could have put the workout in the beginning of the film. He has to work out daily to keep his physical strength. It’s cannon anyhow. That would make more sense. Show it’s part of his daily routine. To lift a weight for sups..didn’t make sense
They should have used Bizarro instead of Doomsday
To be honest, Batman v Superman still still ones of the awesome movie and still.
It is first we get accurate Batman who actual look like comic Batman fighting like comic batman.
I got to the Arnold kingo pin in MCU
He could play a tombstone
The theatrical cut is garbage, ultimate cut saves it.
Another simple thing that would have redeemed it further and made the audience aware that these heroes are damaged because this isnt Earth prime but more like a backwater Earth vs Darksied is have Luthor reveal to Bruce at the end of the film that he is aware of darksied who has destroyed and beaten the justice league over and over across the multiverse. Setting up the fact this this dysfunctional earth with no justice league stands no chance, thus raising the stakes.
Just like 2 sentences would have done so much for the film not to mention inform the audience that yes this Supes kills, this Bats kills because this isnt the Earth prime version and was never meant to be.
Release the Rob Schneider cut
I’m with James you can’t have your guy who’s the symbol for hope be depressed Superman is supposed to be the most optimistic person it’s when he’s not that he’s scary
The Dark Knight the whole plot is Joker trying to get Batman to kill and at the end he kills Harvey Dent by pushing him off a building lol… but at least they established he has a no kill rule😂😂
Batman was trying to save Gordon’s son. The death of Harvey Dent was consequential. Only a total moron would conclude that he purposely broke his rule, as if it would be better had he just stood there and watched Harvey kill Gordon’s family. What a lawyerish take.
The ultimate edition is really good
I really like BvS Ultimate despite it's flaws but I still can't stand Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luthor, so bad.
His Lex Luthor was a tawdry copycat version of Heath Ledger’s Joker.
@@Emper0rH0rde facts
Amy Adams continues to skate on being the worst in all of these movies despite being painfully bad in all of them.
Once he said he loved Superman Returns I was out. Brandon did a great job of portraying the MoS, the movie itself was boring on all levels. It was just Superman the movie retold and I’ve seen that movie a billion times. This is what I tell people, most people don’t want the truth, justice and the American way because what does that mean in this climate today. What is the American way in today’s time? What is truth, when half the country the country and media are lying? What is justice when you see people being wrongly convicted of crimes and people who are guilty getting away with no type of justice being handed out? It’s fine if that’s what you like but the most of us live in the actual world where these things just seem to not be the case.
Man of steel ... superman saved the earth lol . He barely learned how to fly . Never fought anyone . I love that for superman . ... i love man of steel and batman v superman . Great movies that will stand the test of time.
Bahahaha yall said the biggest peice of garbage in the dceu. WW84 takes that trophy.
I’ll one up you and throw in the flash🤣
Jeremy Irons is my personal favorite Alfred in all films, Jesse was easily the worst Lex, and Amy Adams is also dog doo-doo in these movies.... Personally I think Zac Snyder's Justice League can blow. It's not good.
At 4 hours it just way too long
Dude... did you not watch MoS? He's constantly saving people mid fight, but there's only so much you can do while someone is beating the shit out of you. Again, Snyder gave these movies stakes, instead of just not showing consequences like The Avengers.
Ok, just started watching, but throwing my opinion out before I hear yours. This movie straight up sucks. I couldn't even finish it. And that's wild for me. I've sat through some really bad films before. Couldn't do it for this one. I could lie and say I'll give it another chance. But I won't. Big clunker of a movie
Well we went to battle here too, it was 2 on 2 in the room
🤣 nobody believes you JUST watched a Superman v Batman film🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@bofawhatsbofa4593I have no idea what the heck you’re talking about
@@6O8gamer07 nobody believes your claim that you JUST started watching this film. Unless you been living under a rock or never watched a movie before it’s highly unlikely
@@bofawhatsbofa4593 Bruh. I was talking about the podcast lol. I just started watching the podcast, paused it to comment before I heard their opinions.
Ok, dude just sad he loves Superman Returns... now I get it.
Not a fan of Returns, I take it?
@@BadMoviesRule not a fan of Bryan Singer or his oeuvre.
@@RockyRoyale84 yeah turned out he was a scumbag - but didn’t know that at the time and as a fan of Christopher Reeves, I appreciated that Singer made a follow-up in a similar vein.
@BadMoviesRule thanks for the engagement, I actually really love the podcast and have already listened to the Cabin Fever, Lost World and BvS podcasts. You guys are fuckin hilarious and on point most of the time. Just stumbled upon you yesterday.
@@RockyRoyale84 that’s cool man, glad you’re enjoying the show 👍 we won’t always agree but hopefully it’s at least entertaining when we don’t 😂
if you watch carefuly camptain amarica civil war they have the same plot as BvS, same politics after destruction, the rich guy taking care of people at an old age and conveniently for the plot, un acto terrorista en la corte, a master mind but well simo was way better write, and at the end the mom comflict with tony losing control but no one dies at the end, but is the same arc, what I hate for BsV is that zack use like 8 diferent plots from original comics in 1 movie just hate it and I really really hate that scene where clark ask - who is him? and stupid Jimmy Kimmel says- is bruce wayne WTF he is the second best journalist from dairy planet they use that stupid guy insted of Jimmy Olsen WTF (who get a re-imagined role as a CIA agent who dies in few seconds of movie just like jonathan kent in man of steel) damm the writer should be black listed forever omg
Love zack's DC trilogy like nothing is This genre....its way more powerfull,engaging and appeling to me sow This versions of This characters with This realistic aproachs
Its a shame in not let the man finish is full vision....and yeah i think every Batman fan live that moral code of no killing but when you aproach and realistic takes even more if it is in movies its very complicated to handle such think when the movie if full of great actions scenes,an great example is nolan Batman who clearly stated his one rule but right after in the first film he broke that killing a lot actually he kill in the intire trilogy, rising a plot hole in that argument ....so i say wich is worst ,state he does not kill and will broke that promess creating a plot hole ,or do it with the balls to confront the reality aproach in self defense or some innocents.... a man who fights crime sevearly punishing in a hardcore way breakin several bones and Brain injuries possibly in ocasiona left then in chair weals its ok ,just left him alive to suffer even more!!we all know batman wont kill if necessarly for his own self decense or ithers innocents people....all cinema Batman does even this new the Batman did if you pay attention,but why only one is criticized when even he kill in several comic books in arkham games....so its very complicated to protect something that was gonna be Impossible to pretend is not happen even when its fully untentinaly....and other major thing taht almost everyone i sow debating this topic always miss from take into account is, the needed of an characrer study , what leads him to do what he do and why that happen...with Ben Afflecks Batman we get much easy way why he cross that line, why he lost faith in mankind ,Soo,to understand his actions and why he broke that live promess make a lot of Sense and facilitates better acceptance....i've so much to talk in defense if this movie ,just gonna say this lex luthor despite a lotbsay is kind a joker or riddler and its not,actually is very accurate from his origins lije was in birthright and if you dint know taake a look to the comic book even visualy is equal,,,he was a sort of mad scientist ,very clever guy with a mental issues and a lot of disorders.... and to me was very well executed on film but people always tried to compared to some other character,zack want to developt all main characters around next movies ,we sow in the end of zs jl lex was ready for his new path in order to became the lex that all we know....
There is many things about this movie that I enjoy and there's a lot I think is plain stupid. The main issue I had with the infamous 'Martha' scene is that I always assumed that Bruce Wayne knows who Superman is, he knows his identity and about his background growing up in Smallville so I never got why he doesn't know his mothers name. The idea that Bruce Wayne & Alfred, with all their technology, could not work out Clark Kent is Superman seemed absurded. Also the fight scene pissed me off when Superman gets gassed the 2nd time. The 1st time makes sense because he catches the grenade and gets surprised by the kryponite gas but the 2nd he's regained his powers and could fly out and laser the building in half but instead he sees Batman reload his grenade and still runs at him. I get that they had to make it more even but they made it dumb.
🤦🏽♂️man this was a BAD take. Like so many plot points and elements went soaring over your head. This is what happens when you’re used to marvel quips and spoon fed narratives for 15 years.
I'm sorry, but this movie is not as deep as you think it is. I think it's even worse when you DO get the plot points.
I'm sorry, but this movie is not as deep as you think it is. I think it's even worse when you DO get the plot points.
@@asnlunatic 9/10 when I hear people’s complaints about mos/bvs/ or JL it’s almost always people who weren’t paying attention to the film or misremembered. Rarely is it a legit criticism. And this video literally proved it
#releasethefreezecut
Reeves was great for the time
Henry elevated the character to the highest heights of all time.
Americans hate that he isn't American
The whole world loves him because he isn't American.
Superman and batman will never be better than what Zack created
Zack made a brute batman
Miller made a twink batman
Reeves wore his underwear on the outside and he was basically skinny
Henry is jacked and wears armour
So Get the hell out of here with that BS of Henry isn't the best Superman
Never understood why people like Henry Cavil's sad Superman.