One prime example of a useful 'old CAT' is the CAT 660 three-axle scraper (last built early 1979)...There are contractors and PRIVATE OWNERS who still use the 660 which proves that 'old CATS' do, indeed, have 'nine lives'!
if he had loaded the dozer closer to the truck and not all of the weight on the trailer. there wouldn't have been this much trouble. not enough weight on the drives.
@Mr Sunshines And you dont nothing about driving truck. Weight to working wheels and it helps, and hell to your physics. Dozer can move that long that you are not open road with out any problem.
Lol, I need to teach that driver a lesson. The reasons he spun out: 1. You are supposed to put the bade on the deck,not on the trailer tires. 2. Any time you start spinning,never,ever ever ever do what he did. Spinning even more got him stuck down even more. Yeah he got out, but just barely.
I never load an RGN where I have to turn around loaded. Always turn around empty, and set up the breakdown and loading where I am heading out strait on. No the Peterbuilt did not get stuck, but if he had the time wasted is not realistic. Besides turning sharp like that (in the video) is hard on lockers.
Because the old CATS are working harder and better than any of the new emissions Detroits, Mercedes, and Cummins. I work at a Freightliner/Western Star dealership/shop and the new engines spend more time in the shop with work being done to the DEF and emissions systems than they do on the road. Many guys are opting to buy glider kits and throwing a pre-emissions CAT in them.
@lordtaw if you aregoing to talking suspensions you have tob more specific, peterbilt alone has 5 or6 different types. And that is air trac. It walks way better than any spring ride, but that is hardly off road
Saw it in Gilboa NY Catskill Mnts,Large 28 wheel trailer carring a turbine up hill.Hot day 90-F.1/2 way up the tires sank into the black top.Should have hauled early in the Morn when road was cool.
rings and liner are wasted or you have a broken ring so you are getting blowby... when the engine is running and you open the filler cap you should see and feel the compresion of the cylinders ...
That ole "large car" wasn't stuck. He spun here & there but he wasn't stuck. He made it out under his own power! But why try to load the heavy equipment out there in the wet grass? It doesn't make any sense. If they start & move on their own, then detach from the lowboy there on the hard packed road that was there, load & unload the equipment on the dry surface! I mean ya drove to the wet area on a hard dry surface, so do the work from there! Talkin from experiance!
They help when you're empty but loaded not so much, i run pup and truck generally around 102,000 pounds and used to get stuck every day in pits but my buddy at the tire shop did me a solid when it came time for new tires, he got a set of regroovable tires and cut the tread twice as deep and cut lugs out so its more like a mud tire, i haven't gotten stuck since. I even tried getting a set of those truck claws but they broke within 30 seconds and didn't get me unstuck
For now it's going to sit. Later on the engine will be disassembled to see what exactly is going on inside. Engine oil literally flies out of the exhaust pipe.
Damn ive seen some stupid comments on here, ppl think because of the brand of a truck its less likely to get stuck, all trucks are pretty much them same in that aspect.... if you get on greasy ground youll set there and spin regardless the brand of a truck lol
Putting the load closer to the traction wheels would've improved the handling a lot, I wouldn't be surprised to see the truck drive away with the weight of the dozer as close as possible to the truck
Then you risk overloading the drives, plus weight is good in a low traction situation up to a point. Put to much on and you just sink, it looked like it was digging in and only sinking a little so I'd say he was properly loaded,
wow.. not the smartest move.. for a haul like that with over road truck stay on road.. let the dozer makes it on way back there haha. especially with a load that heavy.
Love old machines, better to use that old cat for parts then to be melted down into cheap China junk. keep the history alive on what it was like to really operate a machine. Phil
There's a difference between stuck and slipping
Finally. Someone who knows how to drive.
Wheel slip for sure ~ stuck where and when? A++ drivers on both the dozer and Peterbilt. They sure got out of that potential jam.
I thought getting stuck means you need to be towed or pulled out by some thing else. Didn't see that happen here.
Great vid! That rig and those machines are awesome! Even if some need some work. Ground looked a little slick too.
You guys have some awesome videos. Thanks for taking the time to make the videos and to post them.
One prime example of a useful 'old CAT' is the CAT 660 three-axle scraper (last built early 1979)...There are contractors and PRIVATE OWNERS who still use the 660 which proves that 'old CATS' do, indeed, have 'nine lives'!
if he had loaded the dozer closer to the truck and not all of the weight on the trailer. there wouldn't have been this much trouble. not enough weight on the drives.
@Mr Sunshines And you dont nothing about driving truck. Weight to working wheels and it helps, and hell to your physics. Dozer can move that long that you are not open road with out any problem.
whoever was driving the dozer knew what he was doing.. excellent control over it. job well done
Lol, I need to teach that driver a lesson. The reasons he spun out: 1. You are supposed to put the bade on the deck,not on the trailer tires. 2. Any time you start spinning,never,ever ever ever do what he did. Spinning even more got him stuck down even more. Yeah he got out, but just barely.
I never load an RGN where I have to turn around loaded. Always turn around empty, and set up the breakdown and loading where I am heading out strait on. No the Peterbuilt did not get stuck, but if he had the time wasted is not realistic. Besides turning sharp like that (in the video) is hard on lockers.
Because the old CATS are working harder and better than any of the new emissions Detroits, Mercedes, and Cummins. I work at a Freightliner/Western Star dealership/shop and the new engines spend more time in the shop with work being done to the DEF and emissions systems than they do on the road. Many guys are opting to buy glider kits and throwing a pre-emissions CAT in them.
Unreal...if you think that's "stuck" , or if that's a crappy 'dozer, don't go to North Canada!
....you guys have it waay too good..
peterbilts are beautiful trucks
Awesome, as usual. However, I'd like to have seen the tractor releasing and re-connecting with the trailer at each loading / unloading location.
@lordtaw if you aregoing to talking suspensions you have tob more specific, peterbilt alone has 5 or6 different types. And that is air trac. It walks way better than any spring ride, but that is hardly off road
@Scoootter87 These old cats are useful because they keep on working. Sometimes they are better than the newer equipment.
I know it's only cosmetic, but whoever owns that tractor fixes that bent stack asap
Saw it in Gilboa NY Catskill Mnts,Large 28 wheel trailer carring a turbine up hill.Hot day 90-F.1/2 way up the tires sank into the black top.Should have hauled early in the Morn when road was cool.
rings and liner are wasted or you have a broken ring so you are getting blowby... when the engine is running and you open the filler cap you should see and feel the compresion of the cylinders ...
lorry did well to get out, well done to that driver
That ole "large car" wasn't stuck. He spun here & there but he wasn't stuck. He made it out under his own power! But why try to load the heavy equipment out there in the wet grass? It doesn't make any sense. If they start & move on their own, then detach from the lowboy there on the hard packed road that was there, load & unload the equipment on the dry surface! I mean ya drove to the wet area on a hard dry surface, so do the work from there! Talkin from experiance!
will snow chains work lol i know they are just for the winter but will they help
They help when you're empty but loaded not so much, i run pup and truck generally around 102,000 pounds and used to get stuck every day in pits but my buddy at the tire shop did me a solid when it came time for new tires, he got a set of regroovable tires and cut the tread twice as deep and cut lugs out so its more like a mud tire, i haven't gotten stuck since. I even tried getting a set of those truck claws but they broke within 30 seconds and didn't get me unstuck
For now it's going to sit. Later on the engine will be disassembled to see what exactly is going on inside. Engine oil literally flies out of the exhaust pipe.
wheres the stuck pete?
@DieselPowerTV Sounds like valves. and maybe a gasket. Had that same problem on an old Ford 3 cylinder tractor.
Where did he get stuck? I watched the whole thing twice! I never saw it get stuck!
Damn ive seen some stupid comments on here, ppl think because of the brand of a truck its less likely to get stuck, all trucks are pretty much them same in that aspect.... if you get on greasy ground youll set there and spin regardless the brand of a truck lol
Putting the load closer to the traction wheels would've improved the handling a lot, I wouldn't be surprised to see the truck drive away with the weight of the dozer as close as possible to the truck
Then you risk overloading the drives, plus weight is good in a low traction situation up to a point. Put to much on and you just sink, it looked like it was digging in and only sinking a little so I'd say he was properly loaded,
never mind we all get stuck more than once. low gear first and let it walk out slow. if not use a bully!!
this vid is a good reason to have hydralicly driven pusher axles
If you are still moving you are not stuck.....
Have fun
that guy drives that truck like a pissed of teenager even look at the bent stacks
now thats how u get a pete unstuck
u think it would have been smarter to load closer to the road?
wow.. not the smartest move.. for a haul like that with over road truck stay on road.. let the dozer makes it on way back there haha. especially with a load that heavy.
@DieselPowerTV probably a broken piston ring or something... not big deal
Maybe a lil more weight on the drive axels could have helped some. Just a guess on my part tho...
Love old machines, better to use that old cat for parts then to be melted down into cheap China junk. keep the history alive on what it was like to really operate a machine. Phil
have it drive by 3 of 4 axes? I see only 3 of 4 axes works
The third is just a tag for weight/ braking.
The 3rd axle is a drop axle doesn't drive just for weight purposes
Lol I keep say to my dad If he ever get stuck Put the truck in first gear and then floor it and hope for the best
When you turn the steering wheel that hard on a soft surface expect to get stuck.
what years are those dozers?
you just unloaded a running bulldozer... pull it out with that...
Must use indicators when turning.
wouldn't let this guy near my truck in the winter, he's asking for a broken diff or an axle
Air suspension: worst suspension once your off road.
So close to the road!
time for a new tractor!
@MRcubcadet107 It will be a parts machine for now.
so tru stuff back then was built to last
that wat you get when you have a truck with 1 steer axle 1 lift and 2 drive
A Caterpillar engine pulled it out
you didn't haul two at once lol.
That's nothing for mud.
good lord thats and old dozer
@SUNSETRETREATSXM He made it!
What cha gonna do with that bulldozer. Last I heard, it runs like a bag of Shit. Sounds like it to.
Why don't they make it so the extra axle could be powered also for extra traction in situations like this?
ur not going to scap that beast are u?
trucker just hammer down in 2nd gear
good driver
He put 2 much weight on the back axles
A Sterling rigg could have got stuck but get out with its turbo engine
He got out on his own...
genial !
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get some!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You need more drive axles
quad axle trucks suck you dont have any weight for steering
@K6HU Hydraulic detach
facepalm
all I have to say
@ninnyl dam righr
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