One prime example of a useful 'old CAT' is the CAT 660 three-axle scraper (last built early 1979)...There are contractors and PRIVATE OWNERS who still use the 660 which proves that 'old CATS' do, indeed, have 'nine lives'!
if he had loaded the dozer closer to the truck and not all of the weight on the trailer. there wouldn't have been this much trouble. not enough weight on the drives.
@Mr Sunshines And you dont nothing about driving truck. Weight to working wheels and it helps, and hell to your physics. Dozer can move that long that you are not open road with out any problem.
Because the old CATS are working harder and better than any of the new emissions Detroits, Mercedes, and Cummins. I work at a Freightliner/Western Star dealership/shop and the new engines spend more time in the shop with work being done to the DEF and emissions systems than they do on the road. Many guys are opting to buy glider kits and throwing a pre-emissions CAT in them.
I never load an RGN where I have to turn around loaded. Always turn around empty, and set up the breakdown and loading where I am heading out strait on. No the Peterbuilt did not get stuck, but if he had the time wasted is not realistic. Besides turning sharp like that (in the video) is hard on lockers.
rings and liner are wasted or you have a broken ring so you are getting blowby... when the engine is running and you open the filler cap you should see and feel the compresion of the cylinders ...
Saw it in Gilboa NY Catskill Mnts,Large 28 wheel trailer carring a turbine up hill.Hot day 90-F.1/2 way up the tires sank into the black top.Should have hauled early in the Morn when road was cool.
@lordtaw if you aregoing to talking suspensions you have tob more specific, peterbilt alone has 5 or6 different types. And that is air trac. It walks way better than any spring ride, but that is hardly off road
Lol, I need to teach that driver a lesson. The reasons he spun out: 1. You are supposed to put the bade on the deck,not on the trailer tires. 2. Any time you start spinning,never,ever ever ever do what he did. Spinning even more got him stuck down even more. Yeah he got out, but just barely.
Putting the load closer to the traction wheels would've improved the handling a lot, I wouldn't be surprised to see the truck drive away with the weight of the dozer as close as possible to the truck
Then you risk overloading the drives, plus weight is good in a low traction situation up to a point. Put to much on and you just sink, it looked like it was digging in and only sinking a little so I'd say he was properly loaded,
For now it's going to sit. Later on the engine will be disassembled to see what exactly is going on inside. Engine oil literally flies out of the exhaust pipe.
That ole "large car" wasn't stuck. He spun here & there but he wasn't stuck. He made it out under his own power! But why try to load the heavy equipment out there in the wet grass? It doesn't make any sense. If they start & move on their own, then detach from the lowboy there on the hard packed road that was there, load & unload the equipment on the dry surface! I mean ya drove to the wet area on a hard dry surface, so do the work from there! Talkin from experiance!
wow.. not the smartest move.. for a haul like that with over road truck stay on road.. let the dozer makes it on way back there haha. especially with a load that heavy.
Damn ive seen some stupid comments on here, ppl think because of the brand of a truck its less likely to get stuck, all trucks are pretty much them same in that aspect.... if you get on greasy ground youll set there and spin regardless the brand of a truck lol
They help when you're empty but loaded not so much, i run pup and truck generally around 102,000 pounds and used to get stuck every day in pits but my buddy at the tire shop did me a solid when it came time for new tires, he got a set of regroovable tires and cut the tread twice as deep and cut lugs out so its more like a mud tire, i haven't gotten stuck since. I even tried getting a set of those truck claws but they broke within 30 seconds and didn't get me unstuck
Love old machines, better to use that old cat for parts then to be melted down into cheap China junk. keep the history alive on what it was like to really operate a machine. Phil
Wheel slip for sure ~ stuck where and when? A++ drivers on both the dozer and Peterbilt. They sure got out of that potential jam.
Finally. Someone who knows how to drive.
I thought getting stuck means you need to be towed or pulled out by some thing else. Didn't see that happen here.
Great vid! That rig and those machines are awesome! Even if some need some work. Ground looked a little slick too.
One prime example of a useful 'old CAT' is the CAT 660 three-axle scraper (last built early 1979)...There are contractors and PRIVATE OWNERS who still use the 660 which proves that 'old CATS' do, indeed, have 'nine lives'!
whoever was driving the dozer knew what he was doing.. excellent control over it. job well done
if he had loaded the dozer closer to the truck and not all of the weight on the trailer. there wouldn't have been this much trouble. not enough weight on the drives.
@Mr Sunshines And you dont nothing about driving truck. Weight to working wheels and it helps, and hell to your physics. Dozer can move that long that you are not open road with out any problem.
You guys have some awesome videos. Thanks for taking the time to make the videos and to post them.
Awesome, as usual. However, I'd like to have seen the tractor releasing and re-connecting with the trailer at each loading / unloading location.
Because the old CATS are working harder and better than any of the new emissions Detroits, Mercedes, and Cummins. I work at a Freightliner/Western Star dealership/shop and the new engines spend more time in the shop with work being done to the DEF and emissions systems than they do on the road. Many guys are opting to buy glider kits and throwing a pre-emissions CAT in them.
@DieselPowerTV Sounds like valves. and maybe a gasket. Had that same problem on an old Ford 3 cylinder tractor.
I know it's only cosmetic, but whoever owns that tractor fixes that bent stack asap
Unreal...if you think that's "stuck" , or if that's a crappy 'dozer, don't go to North Canada!
....you guys have it waay too good..
I never load an RGN where I have to turn around loaded. Always turn around empty, and set up the breakdown and loading where I am heading out strait on. No the Peterbuilt did not get stuck, but if he had the time wasted is not realistic. Besides turning sharp like that (in the video) is hard on lockers.
that looks like a 14a cat dozer the guy i work for has one and it runs great sat up for like 10 years put some new batteries in it and ut started up
@Scoootter87 These old cats are useful because they keep on working. Sometimes they are better than the newer equipment.
rings and liner are wasted or you have a broken ring so you are getting blowby... when the engine is running and you open the filler cap you should see and feel the compresion of the cylinders ...
Saw it in Gilboa NY Catskill Mnts,Large 28 wheel trailer carring a turbine up hill.Hot day 90-F.1/2 way up the tires sank into the black top.Should have hauled early in the Morn when road was cool.
@lordtaw if you aregoing to talking suspensions you have tob more specific, peterbilt alone has 5 or6 different types. And that is air trac. It walks way better than any spring ride, but that is hardly off road
lorry did well to get out, well done to that driver
Lol, I need to teach that driver a lesson. The reasons he spun out: 1. You are supposed to put the bade on the deck,not on the trailer tires. 2. Any time you start spinning,never,ever ever ever do what he did. Spinning even more got him stuck down even more. Yeah he got out, but just barely.
Putting the load closer to the traction wheels would've improved the handling a lot, I wouldn't be surprised to see the truck drive away with the weight of the dozer as close as possible to the truck
Then you risk overloading the drives, plus weight is good in a low traction situation up to a point. Put to much on and you just sink, it looked like it was digging in and only sinking a little so I'd say he was properly loaded,
this vid is a good reason to have hydralicly driven pusher axles
that guy drives that truck like a pissed of teenager even look at the bent stacks
@DieselPowerTV probably a broken piston ring or something... not big deal
peterbilts are beautiful trucks
For now it's going to sit. Later on the engine will be disassembled to see what exactly is going on inside. Engine oil literally flies out of the exhaust pipe.
That ole "large car" wasn't stuck. He spun here & there but he wasn't stuck. He made it out under his own power! But why try to load the heavy equipment out there in the wet grass? It doesn't make any sense. If they start & move on their own, then detach from the lowboy there on the hard packed road that was there, load & unload the equipment on the dry surface! I mean ya drove to the wet area on a hard dry surface, so do the work from there! Talkin from experiance!
Maybe a lil more weight on the drive axels could have helped some. Just a guess on my part tho...
Must use indicators when turning.
Lol I keep say to my dad If he ever get stuck Put the truck in first gear and then floor it and hope for the best
wow.. not the smartest move.. for a haul like that with over road truck stay on road.. let the dozer makes it on way back there haha. especially with a load that heavy.
wouldn't let this guy near my truck in the winter, he's asking for a broken diff or an axle
There's a difference between stuck and slipping
wheres the stuck pete?
now thats how u get a pete unstuck
Air suspension: worst suspension once your off road.
never mind we all get stuck more than once. low gear first and let it walk out slow. if not use a bully!!
When you turn the steering wheel that hard on a soft surface expect to get stuck.
Where did he get stuck? I watched the whole thing twice! I never saw it get stuck!
you just unloaded a running bulldozer... pull it out with that...
If you are still moving you are not stuck.....
Have fun
Damn ive seen some stupid comments on here, ppl think because of the brand of a truck its less likely to get stuck, all trucks are pretty much them same in that aspect.... if you get on greasy ground youll set there and spin regardless the brand of a truck lol
@MRcubcadet107 It will be a parts machine for now.
So close to the road!
will snow chains work lol i know they are just for the winter but will they help
They help when you're empty but loaded not so much, i run pup and truck generally around 102,000 pounds and used to get stuck every day in pits but my buddy at the tire shop did me a solid when it came time for new tires, he got a set of regroovable tires and cut the tread twice as deep and cut lugs out so its more like a mud tire, i haven't gotten stuck since. I even tried getting a set of those truck claws but they broke within 30 seconds and didn't get me unstuck
good driver
time for a new tractor!
u think it would have been smarter to load closer to the road?
what years are those dozers?
Love old machines, better to use that old cat for parts then to be melted down into cheap China junk. keep the history alive on what it was like to really operate a machine. Phil
good lord thats and old dozer
that wat you get when you have a truck with 1 steer axle 1 lift and 2 drive
so tru stuff back then was built to last
genial !
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you didn't haul two at once lol.
@SUNSETRETREATSXM He made it!
He put 2 much weight on the back axles
get some!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
have it drive by 3 of 4 axes? I see only 3 of 4 axes works
The third is just a tag for weight/ braking.
The 3rd axle is a drop axle doesn't drive just for weight purposes
A Caterpillar engine pulled it out
trucker just hammer down in 2nd gear
What cha gonna do with that bulldozer. Last I heard, it runs like a bag of Shit. Sounds like it to.
@K6HU Hydraulic detach
That's nothing for mud.
ur not going to scap that beast are u?
@ninnyl dam righr
Why don't they make it so the extra axle could be powered also for extra traction in situations like this?
A Sterling rigg could have got stuck but get out with its turbo engine
He got out on his own...
You need more drive axles
quad axle trucks suck you dont have any weight for steering
facepalm
all I have to say
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