Thanks for bringing your awesome collection as well as the dispaly items like the shelving and signage. That is what put the exhibit on a higher level. Great job on camera as well - that isn't easy. Awesome stuff Chris! -- Bill
I'm late to seeing this video, but regardless, great job guys! The show looked amazing -- what a great retrospective. I had the pleasure of meeting Bil Herd and sit in on a presentation at the World of Commdore show in Toronto in Dec 2016. He is quite a character with great stories from back in the day.
Thanks MindFlare! Yeah Bil is awesome. He is a mad genius who always cracks us up and is really fun to hang out with. It is very cool that he is so involved with the retro scene.
Thanks! I needed something to pace it out a bit, plus they are really interesting to watch. Really puts you in the mindset of that era. Thanks so much for watching and noticing that!
Really appreciate the kind words Dan! It means so much especially coming from you. Thank you so much for all you do for the Amiga and retro community. There is nothing I enjoy more than taking my mind off the daily stresses of life by watching one of your RUclips videos or melting into my couch (or airplane seat) with The Retro Hour in my headphones. And I believe the plus/4 was your first Commodore if I am not mistaken. It was so great having Rob there. He is a great and very knowledagble guy! AMIGA4EVER!!! -- Bill
Zed Beeblebrox Thanks so much Zed! Really appreciate that and you are correct, it certainly isn't too late. We hope people watch our videos years into the future. Our goal is to preserve the history as much and as long as possible. Thanks so much for watching and all your support!
As always you guys do a GREAT job making youtube video's and showing Amiga's and presenting conventions. Fun, entertaining and educational. Thanks guys!
Great editing on the video, very polished and especially liked the commercials. The commercial that got me to want to buy the Amiga was the one where they showed Dragons Lair. I couldn't believe how close the animation looked to the arcade machine. I went to look at the Amiga 500 at a Video store rental shop that for some weird reason sold Amiga stuff. They had it running a demo of TV Sports Football and I was completely sold.
Awesome Joseph! I had a similar experience. It was Defender of the Crown and the "I am the Commodore Amiga 500" video that roped me in as well as seeing it in my local Commodore store playing Marble Madness and Barbarian. Thanks so much for the kind words about the editing. I put a lot of work into that and your comment means a lot. Thanks! -- Bill
You are a legend MVG! Bonus points for recognizing the Silkworm music. Thanks so much for the super kind words. Much appreciated. Any chance you can make it to VCF Southeast this weekend? We will be on the Amiga panel. -- Bill
man i would love to but im out at Super BitCon in Oklahoma this weekend :( i need your schedule so i can see if i can come to an event you are at over the summer. let me know!
Great video guys. Been watching your channel for a few months now. you've inspired me to get my Amiga out of the attic and fire it up. Still works! I've now got a CF disk upgrade as well as Amiga Forever. My kids love the old games. I like your excellent video on setting up an Amiga emulator on Android tables too. This got me started on your channel. Keep up the great work! By the way, Silkworm music at the start takes me right back ;-)
Awesome Alexander! So glad you are enjoying our channel and it inspired you to get your Amiga up and running again. That is exactly what we hope to do with our videos - get people excited about Amiga again. Mission accomplished. Great job introducing Amiga to the younger folks as well. That is extremely important. Well done! We have lots of awesome videos in the que, so stay tuned and thanks for the kind comment! AMIGA4EVER!!! -- Bill
Thanks so much Roli! Yes, it was key to have people who are experts with specific machines talk about them especially since we are primarily Amiga guys. Really great to meet you tyoo. I am just digging into your channel now. Great stuff! -- Bill
Great video as usual 😀 It reminds me that there was no PC, not that it was the most excited part of Commodore but the PC-10 is fun with its composite output (for 1987) and Amiga mouse support.
Perhaps someday you will be able to make it to the festival. That would be awesome. We would love to hang out with you. Thanks for supporting us since we first started the channel. My wife was also asking me, "When are we going to go visit your friend in Greece" so that is certainly going to happen one day as well! -- Bill
Thanks Stephjen! Glad you learned something. I learned a lot about Commodore by being a part of this exhibit as well. I still have a 3D print episode planned. I have been busy working on this exhibit and the video for it, but I have already shot beauty shots of your case. -- Bill
Stephen Eddy I was given a 116 a couple of years back. I had no use for it, so I swapped it for two Voodoo2's and one AWE64-Gold. I did not test it, as I had no PSU, and I had no perifirals.
Thank you! Yes it was an amazing feeling being there in the same place with all the machines. I wish we could have left the exhibit open longer than 2 days! -- Bill
Nice Vid. I need to get in on the action. But My Amiga 500 has a (wahct dog timer fail) Caps lock key blinks 3 times, if eny one now how fix it please help
With the TED computers, where's your 1551 and the black version of the Datasette? Oh, and was that 1541-styled parallel drive for the PET the SFD 1001?
Don't those tape drives still have some internal conversion to and from audio? I think so. Play a tape from it in a regular player and see. Those drives are regular players that got modded into the form the PETs use.
They were working on a Commodore 900. A Unix machine based on the Motorola 68000. It is the computer the Amiga 2000 case comes from. That info is from Anthony. He is a great historian! -- Bill
It was an interesting time. Apple was slow with the II GS and made many of the same video memory mapping mistakes they had on the original. It was too little, too late. The VGA concept was a real game changer and once clone makers figured out how to remove it from micro-channel, all direct memory mapped graphics ideas were passé. The IBM machines were still hampered by DOS (then Windoze) and the Mac's multifinder was utter crap. The Atari ST and the Amiga looked to be the future, then boom. Gone.
omg its work...thx now I got amiga os,this is my first time os,nice and very good look,TheGuruMeditiation you are the best of the best,pleas make more videos of amiga.
Nice! I am glad that is actually him! I had to compare various photos to make sure I had a pic of the right person, ha ha! Thanks again for all the help and the great interview. You added so much authenticity and a wealth of information and knowledge to the exhibit and this video. VERY much appreciated Bil. Thank you very, very much. -- Double LL Bill
When someone pays for the licensing of the logo, like for the Gravel, etc., how do they pay a company that no longer exists, especially when some of the key people have left the company and some are dead? How can there even be shareholders who get the money from that if the original company is all dissolved?
I bet it will happen. We are speaking on the Amiga panel at VCF Southeast in Atlanta this weekend if you live anywhere around there. Come say hi! -- Bill
Great informative video. Love these kind of things. It's like a complete accessory to a trip down memmory lane. First a video and then turn on the old breadbin or a500. But..... I think every single one that demonstrates the CD32, makes one huge mistake. The FM Towns Marty were released before the CD32. Shure it was in japan only, yet some 1 to 6 months before the CD32. Making the CD32 the second 32bit CD based console to hit the market.
I just happened across your VCFE pics at TheGuruMeditation.org/#photos I am laughing my arse off! Anthony is hamming it up and I'm not talking hold-and-modify.
Hey there. I'm sure you got them already but I do have 26 SVHS video toaster instructional videos if you want me to send em your way. Just filling up my physical media room and I can use the space lol.
9:50: Wow, a Commodore 64 is compatible with itself? HUHH, who'da thunk? And "a cartridge slot in the top where you could plug your cartridges in"? Oh, imagine that, I can plug my cartridges into a slot that's designed for them! Also, that disk drive is a 1541.
Next time please show AROS too; more a spiritual heir to the Amiga name but being open source is in the right position on the low price lineage of Commodore machines.
Yeah would have loved to show AROS as well. Unfortunately we didn't have time for everything and honestly I am not that knowledgeable about AROS so we just went OS4 and Morph OS since we know those enough to give a demo. We could also have an entire exhibit just about Next Gen Amiga - hey there is an idea! Also, CDTV slipped through the cracks and we had a Commodore PC clone there but I messed up and didn't interview anyone about it. Oh well. BTW Your hoodie is on it's way from England. Hopefully you will get it soon! -- Bill
"We cover everything"? Nuh-uh! What about the 128D, for goodness' sake? And the CDTV (just before the CD32)? What about the PC series? What about the printers? What about the thermostat? What about more detail on all the monitors and drives? What about outside derivations like the C64 DTV (Commodore 64 in a joystick) and the Mini 64 and the Rebooted? OK, those outside things are optional, but why not 128D and the original-Commodore-released PCs, printers, and thermostat, at least?
It is kinda odd that when the whole thing went belly up (despite the non-us branches still making profits) the engineers didn't simply continue the company or poduct lines themselves. fact of the matter is that something like the c64 or atari 800xl, fitted with a 65c816, 2x real rs232, and ethernet, while remainig backwards compatible with the c64 or 800xl, would most likely still sell and be the only -homogenous hardware- platform to develop games for without all the 'licenses' bullshit sony nintendo and sega tried and try to pull of. it would not sell in the millions but a downscaled operation would still be profitable. sure they would not have MOS in the basement but getting your own chips produced anywhere else doesn't cost the world anyway. heck there are custom chips in any el-cheapo dvd player and 'led blinking and song playing christmas card'. that's not the problem. the most expensive part is the case injection mold. lol. stick to the pin-through 5v design for easy modification and repairs and because it's proven technology, do atari style rf-shielding and make it all fully cmos and just kick it all back into production. ethernet muss sein tho. it is 2018. (usb is just useless instable garbage so let's skip out on that ;) it doesn't even have to be as cheap as it was before. considering that all the competition in 'bare metal' 'documented hardware gamesplatforms is -gone- and you're only up against stuff like the ps4 which only stupid end users buy. even the ibm pc turned into a piece of shit full of undocumented and different chips so that's out of the game too. (Despite that too starting out with reference guides with source codes of the bios and reference designs using multi-vendor well documented chips and connectors) i'd say, just kick the c64 and all of it's chips just back into production. (not that arm core emulator shit in the mini 64, real ones, quite possibly on an atx board with a bunch of those cartridge connectors as the expansion bus inside).
Commodore is great, but boy, do (ed: did) they make some really stupid decisions sometimes, like canceling machines that sell really well, or producing machines that compete directly with itself. If it weren't for all of these missteps - and better advertising, etc - we might be using an Hombre chipset high speed Amiga system to this day. :( Still, fond memories of bringing my Amiga 1000 home from the computer store and hooking it up to the TV and showing "Archon" (ruclips.net/video/VD6mRUMU0S4/видео.html) to my parents. (Check out that thunder crash at the beginning!). Ah, memories... JW3HH
YO JW3HH! Great to see you again. Totally agree. Commodore is great at sghooting themselves in the foot. I mean look at that Amiga 1000 commercial at 17:52 . What the heck were they smoking??? Leave the fetuses floating in space to Stanly Kubrick please! Oh man I kill to get my hands on an Hombre prototype. What could have been. UGH Cool I will check our your video now. Peace out and thanks for watching! -- Bill
I'm not sure if I should admit this in public LOL but I was surprised when a commercial web site rendered a Guru Meditation Error in my web browser recently. Its the PornProsNetwork web site. Geez I hope my mom doesn't find me on RUclips now. Ha
ahhh ha ha ha! That beats seeing a Guru Meditation on a public access station like I use to back in the old days. Sounds like they are Amiga fans! Time to make a new episode of The Guru Meditation!
LOL, Bil goes, "CES show." Uh, oops, there's no such thing! But aside from that, I like Bil. He's a pretty cool guy! LOL about the "poop," but I wouldn't call my 128 that!
Great exhibition guys and great video as always. Thanks for the in depth tour . Looking forward to the following videos you have lined up :) Stay awesome :)
STIGS WORLD!!! Thanks so much dude! Glad you liked it. Yes, there is lots of editing in my future as well as lots of new shooting in the que! Thanks for all the support! -- Bill
Chapter List
01:55 - Typewriters, Adding Machines, Calaulators (Anthony Becker)
03:18 - KIM-1 (Todd George)
04:03 - PET (Todd George)
06:32 - VIC-20 (Chris Fala)
07:35 - C64 (Chris Fala)
08:46 - C64c (Chris Fala)
09:11 - SX-64 (Chris Fala)
10:04 - Commodore 116 (Rob Clarke)
10:52 - Commodore plus/4 (Rob Clarke)
11:28 - Commodore 264 (Rob Clarke)
11:42 - C16 (Rob Clarke)
12:12 - B128/C610 (Rob Clarke)
13:34 - Commodore MAX (Rob Clarke)
14:29 - C128 (Bil Herd)
17:52 - Amiga 1000 (Anthony Becker)
19:23 - Amiga 500/2000 (Amiga Bill)
20:15 - Commodore 65 (Anthony Becker)
22:30 - Amiga 3000/600 (Anthony Becker)
23:07 - Amiga 1200/4000 (Amiga Bill)
23:43 - CD32 (Anthony Becker)
24:07 - Post Commodore Devices (Anthony Becker)
24:20 - Amiga OS 4.1 (Amiga Bill)
Very interesting presentation of the commodore history.
Thanks so much!
Thrilled to be part of the team! It was great working with everyone on this awesome VCF!
Thanks for bringing your awesome collection as well as the dispaly items like the shelving and signage. That is what put the exhibit on a higher level. Great job on camera as well - that isn't easy. Awesome stuff Chris! -- Bill
Woow.... this is one of the best Commodore retro stuff videos I've enjoyed. Thank you so much for uploading... and that C65 is just awesome !
WOW thank you for the very kind comment. This means so much to me! Cheers!
Great video. It was great seeing your display at VCF East!
Right on Compu! Glad you got to see the display in person. Thanks for the kind words! -- Bill
I'm late to seeing this video, but regardless, great job guys! The show looked amazing -- what a great retrospective. I had the pleasure of meeting Bil Herd and sit in on a presentation at the World of Commdore show in Toronto in Dec 2016. He is quite a character with great stories from back in the day.
Thanks MindFlare! Yeah Bil is awesome. He is a mad genius who always cracks us up and is really fun to hang out with. It is very cool that he is so involved with the retro scene.
I love how you peppered the original ads throughout.
Thanks! I needed something to pace it out a bit, plus they are really interesting to watch. Really puts you in the mindset of that era. Thanks so much for watching and noticing that!
I had tears of joys while watching this video. Thanks guys!
Aw, thanks so much Justin. That makes us feel amazing. Really appreciate the comment and so glad you enjoyed the video! -- Bill
Excellent video, gents! You've summed up the mega-exhibit very well. I spotted myself in the background during Rob's segment.
Nice! A Cameo! Thanks for watching and I am glad you enjoyed it. It was a lot of info to sum-up!!! -- Bill
Fantastic video Bill! Great to see Rob giving the Plus/4 range some love too.
Really appreciate the kind words Dan! It means so much especially coming from you. Thank you so much for all you do for the Amiga and retro community. There is nothing I enjoy more than taking my mind off the daily stresses of life by watching one of your RUclips videos or melting into my couch (or airplane seat) with The Retro Hour in my headphones. And I believe the plus/4 was your first Commodore if I am not mistaken. It was so great having Rob there. He is a great and very knowledagble guy! AMIGA4EVER!!! -- Bill
awesome video.. great to hear the history and see all the different models.
EcBaPr Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed!
Very good presentation, really enjoyed this.
Thanks David! Glad you enjoyed it! We had fun doing it. -- Bill
I'm a bit late to the party, but it's never too late to say thank you for that video, which is just awesome! :)
Zed Beeblebrox Thanks so much Zed! Really appreciate that and you are correct, it certainly isn't too late. We hope people watch our videos years into the future. Our goal is to preserve the history as much and as long as possible. Thanks so much for watching and all your support!
As always you guys do a GREAT job making youtube video's and showing Amiga's and presenting conventions. Fun, entertaining and educational. Thanks guys!
Aw, thanks so much David. That means a lot to us. Glad you enjoyed it! -- Bill
Great editing on the video, very polished and especially liked the commercials. The commercial that got me to want to buy the Amiga was the one where they showed Dragons Lair. I couldn't believe how close the animation looked to the arcade machine. I went to look at the Amiga 500 at a Video store rental shop that for some weird reason sold Amiga stuff. They had it running a demo of TV Sports Football and I was completely sold.
Awesome Joseph! I had a similar experience. It was Defender of the Crown and the "I am the Commodore Amiga 500" video that roped me in as well as seeing it in my local Commodore store playing Marble Madness and Barbarian. Thanks so much for the kind words about the editing. I put a lot of work into that and your comment means a lot. Thanks! -- Bill
Amazing video guys. Loved the Silkworm music too! that game is fantastic
You are a legend MVG! Bonus points for recognizing the Silkworm music. Thanks so much for the super kind words. Much appreciated. Any chance you can make it to VCF Southeast this weekend? We will be on the Amiga panel. -- Bill
man i would love to but im out at Super BitCon in Oklahoma this weekend :( i need your schedule so i can see if i can come to an event you are at over the summer. let me know!
OK will do. Poland might be on the agenda for the summer. We'll see...
Wow - this is just an amazing feat. Thanks for sharing this!
Thanks for the kind words dude. We really appreciate it! Hope you enjoyed the video!
Great video guys. Been watching your channel for a few months now. you've inspired me to get my Amiga out of the attic and fire it up. Still works! I've now got a CF disk upgrade as well as Amiga Forever. My kids love the old games.
I like your excellent video on setting up an Amiga emulator on Android tables too. This got me started on your channel. Keep up the great work! By the way, Silkworm music at the start takes me right back ;-)
Awesome Alexander! So glad you are enjoying our channel and it inspired you to get your Amiga up and running again. That is exactly what we hope to do with our videos - get people excited about Amiga again. Mission accomplished. Great job introducing Amiga to the younger folks as well. That is extremely important. Well done! We have lots of awesome videos in the que, so stay tuned and thanks for the kind comment! AMIGA4EVER!!! -- Bill
what can I say but thank you for this fantastic documentary... you did it again!
Thanks so much Pedro! You comment means a lot. We have so much more to come! -- Bill
Thank you guys for this awsome video. Great retrospective. THUMB UP
Thanks so much To maz! so glad you liked it. AMIGA4EVER!!! -- Bill
the C-65 was a very interesting machine, thank you very much!
For sure. You are welcome. Thanks for watching SledgeFox!
Great video, really like how different people present those different machines.
Thanks so much Roli! Yes, it was key to have people who are experts with specific machines talk about them especially since we are primarily Amiga guys. Really great to meet you tyoo. I am just digging into your channel now. Great stuff! -- Bill
Great video as usual 😀
It reminds me that there was no PC, not that it was the most excited part of Commodore but the PC-10 is fun with its composite output (for 1987) and Amiga mouse support.
I wish I was there.
Fantastic video guys!
Perhaps someday you will be able to make it to the festival. That would be awesome. We would love to hang out with you. Thanks for supporting us since we first started the channel. My wife was also asking me, "When are we going to go visit your friend in Greece" so that is certainly going to happen one day as well! -- Bill
:-)
Cool video!
Thanks you Friends!!
Amiga Forever!!!!
Thanks Victor!
Great video. Lots of details and what a great history of commodore!
Thanks so much Damian! Everyone put a lot of work into the exhibit, so we really appreciate your kind comments! -- Bill
I enjoyed that guys. Really informative. Didn't even know about the 116.
Thanks Stephjen! Glad you learned something. I learned a lot about Commodore by being a part of this exhibit as well. I still have a 3D print episode planned. I have been busy working on this exhibit and the video for it, but I have already shot beauty shots of your case. -- Bill
Stephen Eddy I was given a 116 a couple of years back. I had no use for it, so I swapped it for two Voodoo2's and one AWE64-Gold. I did not test it, as I had no PSU, and I had no perifirals.
This is so cool, i love your intro and i learned something new. thanks!
It is good to have guests that are smarter than us so our viewers can actually learn something, LOL ;-) xoxox
great video :) all these amazing machines in one place...
Thank you! Yes it was an amazing feeling being there in the same place with all the machines. I wish we could have left the exhibit open longer than 2 days! -- Bill
Whats that "song" starting at 1:00? I only know it from a cracktro, never figured out the name.
It is music from the game "Silk Worm"
Why the quotes? Is it not an actual song?
Nice Vid. I need to get in on the action. But My Amiga 500 has a (wahct dog timer fail) Caps lock key blinks 3 times, if eny one now how fix it please help
Oh no, sorry. I am not sure how to fix that, but I will ask around.
With the TED computers, where's your 1551 and the black version of the Datasette?
Oh, and was that 1541-styled parallel drive for the PET the SFD 1001?
Don't those tape drives still have some internal conversion to and from audio? I think so. Play a tape from it in a regular player and see. Those drives are regular players that got modded into the form the PETs use.
I had a B128, but it was Z80 based and ran CP/M, and sadly, no SID chip.
Ah damn. Gotta love that SID!
Oh shoot, guys, when I see those stacks of disk drive there I really want you to go into more, or any, details about them!
And I can't believe Anthony got a C65 for $40! Talk about lucky.
LOL! He hesitated to say the price because he was afraid people would hate him for it - and they do! ;-)
Dan, you owe him an exclamation point instead of that period! :-D
Who did Herd say designed the 128 and Amiga cases? Hard to understand.
Yes, hard to understand, but Dave Haynie said it was Herb Mosteller
Nice review. Greetings from Poland. Btw nice picture of Lublin :)
Czesc Polska!!! Kocham Lublin! pić Piwo!!!
Well said! Na zdrowie:)
Sto-lat!
Does anyone know if Commodore worked on a 16bit computer in-house before buying Amiga?
They were working on a Commodore 900. A Unix machine based on the Motorola 68000. It is the computer the Amiga 2000 case comes from. That info is from Anthony. He is a great historian! -- Bill
The Guru Meditation Good stuff. I'll be looking that one up. Thanks guys!
I still wonder what the Amiga could have become had Commodore not been in a race with Atari to the bottom of the price range.
We wonder the same. It is a pity. Thanks for watching Bryon!
It was an interesting time. Apple was slow with the II GS and made many of the same video memory mapping mistakes they had on the original. It was too little, too late. The VGA concept was a real game changer and once clone makers figured out how to remove it from micro-channel, all direct memory mapped graphics ideas were passé. The IBM machines were still hampered by DOS (then Windoze) and the Mac's multifinder was utter crap. The Atari ST and the Amiga looked to be the future, then boom. Gone.
Yeah, that sums it up well! It is really unfortunate what happened.
AWESOME !!
Yeah baby!!!
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wooo-hoo!!! Thanks ImLegend! AMIGA4EVER!!!
can I instal os to winuae emulation on pc ?
Yep! Check out Amiga Forever. It is a great place to start. www.amigaforever.com/ -- Bill
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Had a flashback when you showed the pic of Shiraz.
Nice! I am glad that is actually him! I had to compare various photos to make sure I had a pic of the right person, ha ha! Thanks again for all the help and the great interview. You added so much authenticity and a wealth of information and knowledge to the exhibit and this video. VERY much appreciated Bil. Thank you very, very much. -- Double LL Bill
Well, that PET 2001 keyboard isn't square; it's a (nonsquare) rectangle.
When someone pays for the licensing of the logo, like for the Gravel, etc., how do they pay a company that no longer exists, especially when some of the key people have left the company and some are dead? How can there even be shareholders who get the money from that if the original company is all dissolved?
I really hope I can meet up with you guys some day!
I bet it will happen. We are speaking on the Amiga panel at VCF Southeast in Atlanta this weekend if you live anywhere around there. Come say hi! -- Bill
Wow amazing!
Thanks! This was a really fun show
Great informative video. Love these kind of things. It's like a complete accessory to a trip down memmory lane. First a video and then turn on the old breadbin or a500. But..... I think every single one that demonstrates the CD32, makes one huge mistake. The FM Towns Marty were released before the CD32. Shure it was in japan only, yet some 1 to 6 months before the CD32. Making the CD32 the second 32bit CD based console to hit the market.
commodore amiga best computer ever!
Couldn't agree more!!! AMIGA4EVER! -- Bill
Well, not really, since there are PCs that have risen above what Amigas could do... but for their time, yes! Now, not so much.
I just happened across your VCFE pics at TheGuruMeditation.org/#photos I am laughing my arse off! Anthony is hamming it up and I'm not talking hold-and-modify.
Anthony is quite a HAM. Always has been, always will be! -- Bill
Oops, what about the 3000T and 4000T?
Hey there. I'm sure you got them already but I do have 26 SVHS video toaster instructional videos if you want me to send em your way. Just filling up my physical media room and I can use the space lol.
9:50: Wow, a Commodore 64 is compatible with itself? HUHH, who'da thunk? And "a cartridge slot in the top where you could plug your cartridges in"? Oh, imagine that, I can plug my cartridges into a slot that's designed for them!
Also, that disk drive is a 1541.
Next time please show AROS too; more a spiritual heir to the Amiga name but being open source is in the right position on the low price lineage of Commodore machines.
Yeah would have loved to show AROS as well. Unfortunately we didn't have time for everything and honestly I am not that knowledgeable about AROS so we just went OS4 and Morph OS since we know those enough to give a demo. We could also have an entire exhibit just about Next Gen Amiga - hey there is an idea! Also, CDTV slipped through the cracks and we had a Commodore PC clone there but I messed up and didn't interview anyone about it. Oh well. BTW Your hoodie is on it's way from England. Hopefully you will get it soon! -- Bill
ok no problem
AND WHEN THE RAIN BEGINS TO FALL!
I wish we were at Woodstock '94 together!
Maybe Polishstock 2017 :)
Oh, hell yeah!!!
What about it, Retrokram?
Bil Herd ftw!
Bil Herd is the man! Great guy
"We cover everything"? Nuh-uh! What about the 128D, for goodness' sake? And the CDTV (just before the CD32)? What about the PC series? What about the printers? What about the thermostat? What about more detail on all the monitors and drives?
What about outside derivations like the C64 DTV (Commodore 64 in a joystick) and the Mini 64 and the Rebooted? OK, those outside things are optional, but why not 128D and the original-Commodore-released PCs, printers, and thermostat, at least?
It is kinda odd that when the whole thing went belly up (despite the non-us branches still making profits) the engineers didn't simply continue the company or poduct lines themselves. fact of the matter is that something like the c64 or atari 800xl, fitted with a 65c816, 2x real rs232, and ethernet, while remainig backwards compatible with the c64 or 800xl, would most likely still sell and be the only -homogenous hardware- platform to develop games for without all the 'licenses' bullshit sony nintendo and sega tried and try to pull of. it would not sell in the millions but a downscaled operation would still be profitable. sure they would not have MOS in the basement but getting your own chips produced anywhere else doesn't cost the world anyway. heck there are custom chips in any el-cheapo dvd player and 'led blinking and song playing christmas card'. that's not the problem. the most expensive part is the case injection mold. lol. stick to the pin-through 5v design for easy modification and repairs and because it's proven technology, do atari style rf-shielding and make it all fully cmos and just kick it all back into production. ethernet muss sein tho. it is 2018. (usb is just useless instable garbage so let's skip out on that ;) it doesn't even have to be as cheap as it was before. considering that all the competition in 'bare metal' 'documented hardware gamesplatforms is -gone- and you're only up against stuff like the ps4 which only stupid end users buy. even the ibm pc turned into a piece of shit full of undocumented and different chips so that's out of the game too. (Despite that too starting out with reference guides with source codes of the bios and reference designs using multi-vendor well documented chips and connectors) i'd say, just kick the c64 and all of it's chips just back into production. (not that arm core emulator shit in the mini 64, real ones, quite possibly on an atx board with a bunch of those cartridge connectors as the expansion bus inside).
Oops, so obviously the Max isn't just cartridge-based. I spy a...
KEYBOARD!
Commodore is great, but boy, do (ed: did) they make some really stupid decisions sometimes, like canceling machines that sell really well, or producing machines that compete directly with itself. If it weren't for all of these missteps - and better advertising, etc - we might be using an Hombre chipset high speed Amiga system to this day. :(
Still, fond memories of bringing my Amiga 1000 home from the computer store and hooking it up to the TV and showing "Archon" (ruclips.net/video/VD6mRUMU0S4/видео.html) to my parents. (Check out that thunder crash at the beginning!).
Ah, memories...
JW3HH
YO JW3HH! Great to see you again. Totally agree. Commodore is great at sghooting themselves in the foot. I mean look at that Amiga 1000 commercial at 17:52 . What the heck were they smoking??? Leave the fetuses floating in space to Stanly Kubrick please! Oh man I kill to get my hands on an Hombre prototype. What could have been. UGH Cool I will check our your video now. Peace out and thanks for watching! -- Bill
I'm not sure if I should admit this in public LOL but I was surprised when a commercial web site rendered a Guru Meditation Error in my web browser recently. Its the PornProsNetwork web site. Geez I hope my mom doesn't find me on RUclips now. Ha
ahhh ha ha ha! That beats seeing a Guru Meditation on a public access station like I use to back in the old days. Sounds like they are Amiga fans! Time to make a new episode of The Guru Meditation!
LOL, Bil goes, "CES show." Uh, oops, there's no such thing!
But aside from that, I like Bil. He's a pretty cool guy! LOL about the "poop," but I wouldn't call my 128 that!
Nnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerds!!!
RULE!
Amiga = ABSOLUTE SHIT! Oh yeah, I remember meeting one of the DigiView models at a computer fair when I was a young man trying to sell the CRAP.
Great exhibition guys and great video as always. Thanks for the in depth tour . Looking forward to the following videos you have lined up :) Stay awesome :)
STIGS WORLD!!! Thanks so much dude! Glad you liked it. Yes, there is lots of editing in my future as well as lots of new shooting in the que! Thanks for all the support! -- Bill