Up until 10 minutes ago I was thoroughly sketched out about residual solvents. You've changed my whole perception by pointing out that you breathe in way more uncombusted hydrocarbons while walking down the street from the tailpipes of the cars around you than from consuming solvent-based concentrates
This guy does a really good job explaining this. I didn’t fully understand how solvent based extracts worked but this is about as clear as it can get without showing me step by step visually and it seems solvent based is just as safe as solvent less at least if your buying from a dispensary
I do think hydrocarbon can be done great, and works best for efficiency and financially. But solventless extractions are the highest quality you can come across. They may yield less and be less efficient, but they go for a much higher price and are quality. I love high quality bho but most states are over run with very low quality, and often times CRC bho. CRC is filling up michigan dispensaries as "live resin".
And to be clear, the yields are not less efficient. The proper starting material and equipment can produce better yields than solvent. My team just got over a 6% return on bubble hash a few daya ago. Same strain was around 4.5% with BHO
@@timr8431 this is a great point, I don't have lot of experience in this you sounds like you Do. I've only made hash never made bho before, but I've heard some strains can yield very low with hash, where generally any strain that has high thc/terpene content can get a good bho yield. But from your answer I think maybe I've been misinformed.
@@geekinhard343 it depends heavily on the type of trichome heads. You want medium length stalks with "weak necks" and bulbous heads for ice water extraction. If you have that, you will 100% get better yields. But it is true, BHO has it's place, and some strains work better for BHo
Love your videos. I’ve learned so much. Fact based science. Thanks for making these available. One question I’m wondering if you can answer. I heard that in order to add flavors and scents to a CBD oil based tincture, you have to refine it more and therefore you lose some of the minor cannabinoids. So unflavored tinctures are perhaps a better choice. Like eating a whole orange rather than drinking OJ. Is this true?
Great info and video, but the only thing a small grower can do but solvetless extractions. Like rosin press or cold water hash ?? Do you have any ideas ? Thanks for info 👍
A lot of the big guys are starting to use these methods as well. They now have large scale water hash extraction machines. And one of the newest things coming back into popularity is fresh frozen bud into water hash then pressed AKA live rosin
It seems if you have commercial freeze dryer tech your hash is ready to press in 24 hours as opposed to 10-14 days plus retain all terpenes unfortunately using Fresh Frozen Whooe Plant returns extremely low 4-8% hence the most expensive prices. I guess small grower is subjective term these days
Distillation and Winterization are 2 separate steps within the extraction process which achieve 2 separate outcomes. Depending on what type of end product you're making, you may not want to go all the way to "distillate." We have some really helpful blog posts on our site which break these 2 processes down. Winterization: precisionextraction.com/2020/06/what-is-the-winterization-process-in-cannabis-extraction/ Distillation: precisionextraction.com/2018/02/making-cannabis-distillate/
How many hours at 30 hg 105 degrees will it take to boil out hydrocarbon is there is a oz slab? Hp slab? Lb slab? It’s the thickness of the slab going to determine boiling time for the hydrocarbon to vape out? Just want an example of time and hg in the vac it takes to be consumer safe thank you
Thickness of slab determined by vacuum oven size and number of shelves. Even smaller slabs take 48-96 hours and they usually flip the slabs several times. Bigger slab obviously more time some of it is strain dependent. Also how much you warm up and off gas before you put under pressure creating muffin effect.
Just because the majority of people use the easy way and do hydrocarbon extraction doesn't mean it's the way to go. And maybe at your lab they're pulling out all the solvent but I can guarantee you most places are not. You can literally smell the solvent in most this stuff. And who says solventless is the inferior method? You can get excellent yields from water hash and or rosin
I would think most legal states regulate ppm. However you're right a good cold cured live rosin made from 6 star fresh frozen whole plant hash is great. BHO done by great brands 710 labs,Suprise Suprise,Alien is fire hydrocarbon done right usually highest in terpenes as well.
It is not true that SFE with CO2 has limited extraction efficiency. You can control pressure/temperature and change the property of CO2 to have more extraction efficiency. You can add dopant (second solvent) to modify the solubility of the target compounds in CO2. Your company do not sell the SFE equipment and try to promote the solvent extraction equipment. Good video anyway.
Rosin hashrosin and livehashrosin are far superior taste and quality and dabbing experience to solvent extracted concentrates I do dab both im not afraid of shatter or diamonds at all lol
Anything labeled live is fresh frozen. Sometimes labeled nug run but still cured and dried not live. The sad thing now with CRC color redemption column can make any crappy dark old trim look like fire. Gotta know your brands. Major difference in costs too. Labeling can be BS or not have proper info
@@fredkapp498 appreciate the reply with info and not negativity. One love. My main concern for future cannabis users is to label all products woth specifically what type of THC is used whether it be delta 8 or 9. Definitely many in the dark on this subject The more light shed the better
@@Gambino85 that is almost completely irrelevant, considering delta-8 is in no way present in any significant concentration in any concentrate unless it is specifically a delta-8 isolate. No one is adding additional delta-8 to any of their products.
@@Gambino85 yes, completely irrelevant. There are 0 products out there with hidden, unknown, or "concerning" amounts of delta-8. They don't exist. There is 0 need for concern.
as i hear you the 'truth' is a mis-statement. ' ... completely removed' solvents really means that some do remain behind after the heating/vacuum step. the amount is some ppm level that is believed to be safe for humans. you would have done well to use those instruments in the lab and show us how the area percent of the solvents decreases with processing. and what the final levels are. truth in advertising in this business would make this data available. and add too what the carcinogenic ppm levels too are of the solvents cited as 'removed'
No fool, if you purge it properly they are all removed. If you purchase any live resin or BHO products at a dispensary, ask for a COA. I’ve boughten more grams than I can count here in the FL MMJ program, every single COA has showed the residuals as “ND-NONE DETECTED”. These are all legitimate giant corporate 3rd party labs that test these products, only 3 labs are approved to test these in FL, the DOH is very serious and strict here with the program. And believe me, some of the distillate shows around 40ppm on these test, so they can detect even the smallest amount. Believe me if you’ve ever grilled using a propane tank, used a lighter, driven a gas vehicle, been in heavy traffic, etc…you’ve inhaled hydrocarbons. Please stop with the uneducated nonsense that it can’t be purged out. It absolutely can, and is in many legitimate markets.
Up until 10 minutes ago I was thoroughly sketched out about residual solvents. You've changed my whole perception by pointing out that you breathe in way more uncombusted hydrocarbons while walking down the street from the tailpipes of the cars around you than from consuming solvent-based concentrates
This guy does a really good job explaining this. I didn’t fully understand how solvent based extracts worked but this is about as clear as it can get without showing me step by step visually and it seems solvent based is just as safe as solvent less at least if your buying from a dispensary
Keep up this videos bro one day I’ll thank you in person for the knowledge
I do think hydrocarbon can be done great, and works best for efficiency and financially. But solventless extractions are the highest quality you can come across. They may yield less and be less efficient, but they go for a much higher price and are quality. I love high quality bho but most states are over run with very low quality, and often times CRC bho. CRC is filling up michigan dispensaries as "live resin".
Period.
Solventless is and always will hold the crown
@@savead6628 no, officer.
And to be clear, the yields are not less efficient. The proper starting material and equipment can produce better yields than solvent. My team just got over a 6% return on bubble hash a few daya ago. Same strain was around 4.5% with BHO
@@timr8431 this is a great point, I don't have lot of experience in this you sounds like you Do. I've only made hash never made bho before, but I've heard some strains can yield very low with hash, where generally any strain that has high thc/terpene content can get a good bho yield. But from your answer I think maybe I've been misinformed.
@@geekinhard343 it depends heavily on the type of trichome heads. You want medium length stalks with "weak necks" and bulbous heads for ice water extraction. If you have that, you will 100% get better yields. But it is true, BHO has it's place, and some strains work better for BHo
Incredibly informative video put forth in a super easy to understand way. Appreciate it buddy! Thank you!
I appreciate the knowledge! You explain things for everyone to understand!👍🏻
I should have waited a week to ask questions. Great Presentation!!
This is the perfect video! Thank you for making this
Thanks Nick I appreciate the knowledge 👍👍👍👍👍
Love your videos. I’ve learned so much. Fact based science. Thanks for making these available. One question I’m wondering if you can answer. I heard that in order to add flavors and scents to a CBD oil based tincture, you have to refine it more and therefore you lose some of the minor cannabinoids. So unflavored tinctures are perhaps a better choice. Like eating a whole orange rather than drinking OJ. Is this true?
Big thanks for your work!
learned a lot! thanks!
Excellent video 👍
Great info and video, but the only thing a small grower can do but solvetless extractions. Like rosin press or cold water hash ??
Do you have any ideas ?
Thanks for info 👍
A lot of the big guys are starting to use these methods as well. They now have large scale water hash extraction machines. And one of the newest things coming back into popularity is fresh frozen bud into water hash then pressed AKA live rosin
It seems if you have commercial freeze dryer tech your hash is ready to press in 24 hours as opposed to 10-14 days plus retain all terpenes unfortunately using Fresh Frozen Whooe Plant returns extremely low 4-8% hence the most expensive prices. I guess small grower is subjective term these days
Great video
Thank you
Yes but there’s a critical difference between eating solvent and inhaling solvent no?
What’s the difference between distillate and Winterized?
Distillation and Winterization are 2 separate steps within the extraction process which achieve 2 separate outcomes. Depending on what type of end product you're making, you may not want to go all the way to "distillate." We have some really helpful blog posts on our site which break these 2 processes down.
Winterization: precisionextraction.com/2020/06/what-is-the-winterization-process-in-cannabis-extraction/
Distillation: precisionextraction.com/2018/02/making-cannabis-distillate/
Thx
How many hours at 30 hg 105 degrees will it take to boil out hydrocarbon is there is a oz slab? Hp slab? Lb slab? It’s the thickness of the slab going to determine boiling time for the hydrocarbon to vape out? Just want an example of time and hg in the vac it takes to be consumer safe thank you
Thickness of slab determined by vacuum oven size and number of shelves. Even smaller slabs take 48-96 hours and they usually flip the slabs several times. Bigger slab obviously more time some of it is strain dependent. Also how much you warm up and off gas before you put under pressure creating muffin effect.
Crazy how this industry is getting
I usually buy a distillate cart or live resin cart. Am i wasting my money on a Jetty hash cartridge?
Just because the majority of people use the easy way and do hydrocarbon extraction doesn't mean it's the way to go. And maybe at your lab they're pulling out all the solvent but I can guarantee you most places are not. You can literally smell the solvent in most this stuff. And who says solventless is the inferior method? You can get excellent yields from water hash and or rosin
I would think most legal states regulate ppm. However you're right a good cold cured live rosin made from 6 star fresh frozen whole plant hash is great. BHO done by great brands 710 labs,Suprise Suprise,Alien is fire hydrocarbon done right usually highest in terpenes as well.
@@fredkapp498 Right on. Some of these live rosin jams are coming out super high in terpene content.
@@fredkapp498 if you got 6 star, ain't no reason to press it. Dab that straight
Ill stay solventless 😎
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It is not true that SFE with CO2 has limited extraction efficiency. You can control pressure/temperature and change the property of CO2 to have more extraction efficiency. You can add dopant (second solvent) to modify the solubility of the target compounds in CO2. Your company do not sell the SFE equipment and try to promote the solvent extraction equipment. Good video anyway.
this guy is so smart lol
Let's dump some hydrocarbons all over this simple gift. Whether the hydrocarbons stay or go, they were used.
The answer is: use counter marketing campaign saying this stuff
Rosin hashrosin and livehashrosin are far superior taste and quality and dabbing experience to solvent extracted concentrates I do dab both im not afraid of shatter or diamonds at all lol
The problem is non winterized solvent hash..
Hydrocarbons strip a certain part that protects our lungs...
What's different is solventless is inherently superior. That's literally all that needs to be known
Trim into extract....sounds nasty for consumer if they are aware if the source material. Which i highly doubt is labeled on package.
Anything labeled live is fresh frozen. Sometimes labeled nug run but still cured and dried not live. The sad thing now with CRC color redemption column can make any crappy dark old trim look like fire. Gotta know your brands. Major difference in costs too. Labeling can be BS or not have proper info
@@fredkapp498 appreciate the reply with info and not negativity. One love. My main concern for future cannabis users is to label all products woth specifically what type of THC is used whether it be delta 8 or 9. Definitely many in the dark on this subject
The more light shed the better
@@Gambino85 that is almost completely irrelevant, considering delta-8 is in no way present in any significant concentration in any concentrate unless it is specifically a delta-8 isolate. No one is adding additional delta-8 to any of their products.
@@timr8431 dude what? Almost completely irrelevant? Haha
@@Gambino85 yes, completely irrelevant. There are 0 products out there with hidden, unknown, or "concerning" amounts of delta-8. They don't exist. There is 0 need for concern.
as i hear you the 'truth' is a mis-statement. ' ... completely removed' solvents
really means that some do remain behind after the heating/vacuum step.
the amount is some ppm level that is believed to be safe for humans.
you would have done well to use those instruments in the lab and show
us how the area percent of the solvents decreases with processing.
and what the final levels are.
truth in advertising in this business would make this data available.
and add too what the carcinogenic ppm levels too are of the
solvents cited as 'removed'
No fool, if you purge it properly they are all removed. If you purchase any live resin or BHO products at a dispensary, ask for a COA. I’ve boughten more grams than I can count here in the FL MMJ program, every single COA has showed the residuals as “ND-NONE DETECTED”. These are all legitimate giant corporate 3rd party labs that test these products, only 3 labs are approved to test these in FL, the DOH is very serious and strict here with the program.
And believe me, some of the distillate shows around 40ppm on these test, so they can detect even the smallest amount. Believe me if you’ve ever grilled using a propane tank, used a lighter, driven a gas vehicle, been in heavy traffic, etc…you’ve inhaled hydrocarbons.
Please stop with the uneducated nonsense that it can’t be purged out. It absolutely can, and is in many legitimate markets.
More videos like this🫡👍🏻