I guarantee you they couldnt figure out how to have rift effected by los and were worried about how op itd be in pvp with all those talents. Thats why they removed them
In scenarios like this, it’s down to opportunity cost. Will the points spent in dimensional rift help you more than points spent elsewhere? Might be strong in single target, but may not be worth the point cost in multi target. That’s the idea really. No matter how potentially cool a skill is, if it’s not worth the opportunity cost, it’s not worth taking. Similar case to current Cataclysm for destro. The opportunity cost for taking Cata is not getting the rain of fire upgrade. Which means Cata isn’t worth taking in AoE scenarios, despite how great it is for it.
I know everything is still relative and we have no way to know how much anything matters, but 80% AND 30% seems pretty clear they decided they wanted to destroy whither and have your damage more even across having to use all your dots And between the changes to affliction and destro talent trees, they have very clearly limited your choices. So I'm officially worried
Dest was screaming for something they could use on the move, i'll take the rifts even if its just for that alone. Only thing we need now is a Hero talent set that actually fits destrution, coz atm we got two dotters and a passive pet summoning one. Needed one with gigachaos bolts or something cool.
Yeah it's kind of the dream button for any caster. Up to 3 charges usable on the move with a reasonable cool down it's pretty perfect. It's meant to become a fairly baseline button to press on the move and that's cool. That alone makes more interested in the spec honestly. I love casters that can weave instant spells to reposition.
My warlock was my first character that i made way back in vanilla and was my main the entire time up till legion. Really miss old demonology. But I was excited to get a rework into a spec that focuses more on summoning pets. Still waiting on that pet spec because all I see is 2 dot specs and then destro. All of those summons and they are functionally identical to dots, with zero pet mechanics to be found. Its a dot spec with visuals.
Then what would you suggest ? Cause demo is just the master summoner of an army of differents demons right now, nothing like a spe dot, you don’t even use one dot as a demo. The only thing that I d like would be to have another demon to be able to swap the felguard with, cause some of our old demons are not used often imo
@@tikonar how are they not dots? They are functionally identical to dots. Short duration, damage ticks in short intervals. The only difference is that they appear on the ground instead of beneath the healthbar. There are no pet mechanics for any of these summons aside from your main felguard. There are several things they could have done instead, or they could've just left demo how it was. They could've just taken inspiration from classes in even older MMOs that had great pet classes. Like Bonedancer or Necromancer in Dark Age of Camelot. But no, they had to just make it affliction, but with DoTs you can LoS.
@@gigaburgerer didn’t know that corruption, agony and immolate spawned demons attacking your foes. Look at the other « mob summoning » spec that there is in the game, BM hunter, I don’t think there is much more « interactions » with the pets you summon. I don’t know any of those classes in these games, maybe they are cool, but saying demo is a dot spec is kinda too wild for me to keep arguing especially when you combine pet summoning with casting (instant) bolts and not having a single dot in your spell bar to cast. You can’t compare imps and demon summoning to dots when we have affliction that is a pure dot spec that even needs to ramp up …
I think they bloaded the tree too much .. Conflagrate has 5-6 talents improving it .. they should finally merge some. And if they make Channel DF castable while moving AND refresh 1 charge of DimRift, it would be great.
Dimensional Rift is just a glorified DOT. Like it looks cool, but it just does not fit destro much. The whole shtick of destro is around Infernal, chaos bolt, havoc and fire.
Blizzard is sucb a dumb company. Warlocks mages and paladin getting 50000 reworks that make them super ultra strong. Meanwhile shamans and hunters eat shit. Luckily i don't play this garbage anymore.
they seriously need to redesign that stupid sha thing for soul harvester, it certainly does not resemble anything like a demon soul/entity
It's not a sha; it's a void wraith like the one boss from He'll fire Citadel.
Rift is just amazing for PvP, throw them down when being pressured and they attack people through los
I guarantee you they couldnt figure out how to have rift effected by los and were worried about how op itd be in pvp with all those talents. Thats why they removed them
i never played Dimensional Rift but to me it seems like a pretty cool ability and being in the middle its like why not take it?
Im not a fan of it but i see why people like it.
Pvper must take rifts
In scenarios like this, it’s down to opportunity cost. Will the points spent in dimensional rift help you more than points spent elsewhere? Might be strong in single target, but may not be worth the point cost in multi target. That’s the idea really. No matter how potentially cool a skill is, if it’s not worth the opportunity cost, it’s not worth taking. Similar case to current Cataclysm for destro. The opportunity cost for taking Cata is not getting the rain of fire upgrade. Which means Cata isn’t worth taking in AoE scenarios, despite how great it is for it.
Great content Dal! keep up the good work!
I know everything is still relative and we have no way to know how much anything matters, but 80% AND 30% seems pretty clear they decided they wanted to destroy whither and have your damage more even across having to use all your dots
And between the changes to affliction and destro talent trees, they have very clearly limited your choices. So I'm officially worried
Wither was absurdly overpowered, of course it got hit hard lol.
Dest was screaming for something they could use on the move, i'll take the rifts even if its just for that alone. Only thing we need now is a Hero talent set that actually fits destrution, coz atm we got two dotters and a passive pet summoning one. Needed one with gigachaos bolts or something cool.
Yeah it's kind of the dream button for any caster. Up to 3 charges usable on the move with a reasonable cool down it's pretty perfect. It's meant to become a fairly baseline button to press on the move and that's cool. That alone makes more interested in the spec honestly. I love casters that can weave instant spells to reposition.
account wide green fire would be nice
My warlock was my first character that i made way back in vanilla and was my main the entire time up till legion. Really miss old demonology. But I was excited to get a rework into a spec that focuses more on summoning pets. Still waiting on that pet spec because all I see is 2 dot specs and then destro. All of those summons and they are functionally identical to dots, with zero pet mechanics to be found. Its a dot spec with visuals.
Then what would you suggest ? Cause demo is just the master summoner of an army of differents demons right now, nothing like a spe dot, you don’t even use one dot as a demo. The only thing that I d like would be to have another demon to be able to swap the felguard with, cause some of our old demons are not used often imo
@@tikonar how are they not dots? They are functionally identical to dots. Short duration, damage ticks in short intervals. The only difference is that they appear on the ground instead of beneath the healthbar. There are no pet mechanics for any of these summons aside from your main felguard.
There are several things they could have done instead, or they could've just left demo how it was. They could've just taken inspiration from classes in even older MMOs that had great pet classes. Like Bonedancer or Necromancer in Dark Age of Camelot. But no, they had to just make it affliction, but with DoTs you can LoS.
@@gigaburgerer didn’t know that corruption, agony and immolate spawned demons attacking your foes.
Look at the other « mob summoning » spec that there is in the game, BM hunter, I don’t think there is much more « interactions » with the pets you summon. I don’t know any of those classes in these games, maybe they are cool, but saying demo is a dot spec is kinda too wild for me to keep arguing especially when you combine pet summoning with casting (instant) bolts and not having a single dot in your spell bar to cast.
You can’t compare imps and demon summoning to dots when we have affliction that is a pure dot spec that even needs to ramp up …
I think they bloaded the tree too much .. Conflagrate has 5-6 talents improving it .. they should finally merge some.
And if they make Channel DF castable while moving AND refresh 1 charge of DimRift, it would be great.
Destruction got a heroclass that fits their class fantasy yet? :p
Former destro main i gotta say both destro hero talents are cool as fuck im sorry
Diabolist Destro is very nice honestly
Oh ok, maybe things have changed. I felt like one was just summoning more demons and that feels like demo to me and the other felt like a dot spec.
Dimensional Rift is just a glorified DOT. Like it looks cool, but it just does not fit destro much. The whole shtick of destro is around Infernal, chaos bolt, havoc and fire.
Whiter was WAY to strong and it is still very good as it is now and is fine.
Blizzard is sucb a dumb company.
Warlocks mages and paladin getting 50000 reworks that make them super ultra strong.
Meanwhile shamans and hunters eat shit.
Luckily i don't play this garbage anymore.