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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2020
- Time to start the roof on the DIY hurricane/tornado shelter build. I made a few changes from what I previously discussed with you.
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You need to cut that overhang off so the wind won't lift it. It's like a sail in a hurricane/tornado
I built my own storm shelter back in 2002 here in Bama. I dug out by hand into the a 8 ft embankment next to my house. Then poured a concrete slab with 16 ft rebar bent 90° on both ends. After this set up I laid concrete block over the rebar sticking up from the pad. I only made it 6 ft high and the roof and walls were a separate concrete pour from the slab but tied to the slab and roof with rebar. It's still holding up strong although I don't live there anymore. The only thing I see that would be of question about your shelter would be the thinkness of the slab and how the slab is anchored into the ground. The construction of the wood and the way it is put together will no doubt withstand a EF-5 tornado. I just hope it doesn't pick the whole shelter pad and all from the ground. The Jarrel Texas EF-5 actually ripped asphalt up from the road but this is one in a million chances and I would take my chances in your shelter any day!! Hats off to you and very good idea with the design of the wood and how it interlocks and is liquid nailed! Liquid nails will only come apart when wood is ripped apart and is just stupid strong!! Great job!
I just saw where you said the slab is 8 inches thick and your going to use the ground anchor tie downs. And like you said being in Florida you will be good. EF-3 is the highest EVER in Florida. Your shelter would stand strong even in one of those I believe but you would get struck by lightning and win the lottery before this happened 😂
That's exactly right, you have some good sense and reasoning. I get so many negative comments from people who don't understand construction methods or the area we live in. Thanks for watching.
Respect from across the pond 🙏
Thank you for watching
simpson HDU8 holdowns on all 4 corners, embedded 24" into the foundation with 7/8" galvanized all thread......simpson straps 16" on center in between as per plan
actually probably easier/cheaper/stronger just to form foundation/walls/rebar and have a concrete truck come out with 10yds and pour the whole thing as 1 unit. strip forms and build a roof
Nice job so far, man that tractor comes in handy!
It sure does
Happy Thanksgiving!! Thanks for letting us watch all your hard work! You’re doing an awesome job!
Thanks Sam I appreciate it! Happy Thanksgiving to you too!
Roll on ice shield would work good on that roof. We use it in northern Ohio ,
Being from Florida I've never heard of it. Does it go below the tin on top of the plywood?
It is like tar paper but with adhesive on one side. Stick it right to the plywood. It is used in cold climates to keep ice from going under shingles if the gutters freeze up. Good stuff
I'm really enjoying this build very informative great job sir happy thanksgiving to you and your wife and family.
Thank you! Happy Thanksgiving to you too!
You need to make that roof removable so when the storm come syou can tie it down in the trees and not lose it.
I was going to ask about ventilation, but thanks for explaining what you are going to do about it, you're right it should never move. Happy holidays and hope to see you soon.
Happy holidays to you and your family as well, take care!
You are building that to the hilt , enjoy watching the progress. And I hope you never have to use it
Thanks for watching, I'm sure we will use it being in Florida.
Very valid point about the 40 miles away from the coast. People that don't live in a hurricane zone, or study hurricanes don't realize the difference that 40 miles makes. While that hurricane it ripping up trees and buildings, it is losing strength also one it comes on land, it loses the fuel of the warm ocean water. Not to say that a hurricane isn't dangerous 40 miles inland, it's just not as bad as it was when it came onshore.
Absolutely, but you can see a path that Michael tore a couple hundred miles inland. However it came on shore around 155 MPH and by the time something like that would get to me, it would be much lower. So that puts me about half of the wind load rating of this shelter. Pretty good buffer if you ask me, I'll sleep comfortably through most of these hurricanes in that shelter. A tornado is another story. I probably have better chances of hitting the lottery than getting hit by another tornado, but at least I'll be ready.
Happy Thanksgiving! Hope your having a good one!
We are, sitting around the fire now with family. Happy Thanksgiving to you!
I'm impressed. That thing should be rock solid. Hope you never need it though!
I'm sure we will use it being in Florida, but I feel confident I can trust it.
Roll robber roof it’s called Peel and stick
I think i would put some mobile home tie downs for extra measure because you didnt dig footings but the 8 in. slab is extra heavy
I am, discussed it in several other episodes. I don't know why I forgot to mention it on this episode. 1 per corner, that's what saved me and my camper from flipping in the tornado.
Man this project is coming along real fast which is a good thing. next time a tornado come on your property trespassing you going to have something for it. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. You and your wife travel safe out there.
Lol thanks! Happy Thanksgiving to you too!
@@TKCL thank you it will be a nice one. 5 hours left of driving to be home and off until Monday.
On your gable ends the plywood could have been trimmed following the pitch of the room and could have given greatly added tie down , this is just my observation I may be building one my self. Good Job.
Very valid point.
🤣 a gable roof 🤣😂. I'll take my chances in the outhouse, they both have nearly the same chance of keeping you alive. Actually the outhouse more because you could fall into to hole 😂.
For someone with a name like "Divine Knowledge" you obviously don't have much. A 6 inch thick laminated, glued, screwed, nailed and bolted structure to a 8 inch concrete slab is obviously a little more robust than a outhouse. Had you spent any time actually watching the build series you would see that this is in Florida, our most common tornado is Ef0 and Ef1. We don't get those big ones you keep seeing on TV, feel free to thumbs down and move along.
@@TKCL you make childish crack but don't know your own states knowledge. Florida usually gets between a EF 1 and EF2 but can and has had two EF 5 The deadliest was in 98. And you'll have a false sense of security locked in your box think that EF0 is coming when it's likely a 2 or 3 coming. Maybe put a anchor in the floor for something to hold on to when that 2 or 3 pull it away in one piece 😂😂. Sorry I hurt your feelings bozo.
I still wouldn't put a Gable roof on anything that was to have wind resistants. Actually I wouldn't go in the basement for any tornado, my house is IFC construction with steel reinforced roof and can can withstand a EF4 the windows not so much though, Yet 😂.
Nice, accurate work, I've learned a lot. Ever tried a palm hammer with your air compressor? They're inexpensive and will save you a bunch of hammer swinging. Just a thought...
Nope never have, but I've seen them. Honestly I kind of like swinging a hammer, not something I do much anymore with all the pneumatic and electronic tools. But it does get old after a while.
God loves a challenge!
This definitely isn't meant to be that strong. But simply put it SHOULD survive any common storm we see.
Should do the job !! Hope you never need to use it, Hope ya'll have a Happy Thanksgiving 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks, happy Thanksgiving to you too!
You might have a few camper accessories around, Fans, lights, radio, phone charger, they all run on 12V and no grid power needed. You will probably be without power for days if you ever need to use the shelter.
I'm rather prepared for no power being I've experienced it so many times. I have two generators, a lot of fuel and one generator even runs on propane if needed. I've taken enough cold showers in the river to vow I'll never do it again lol. I miss water and a hot shower more than anything during power outages. I made for sure we got a generator big enough to run our 1.5 hp well.
When you and family come out safe after a bad storm , then it is not overbuilt.
Very true!
Like the videos...thanks! How well has it lasted? (Lafayette, LA)
Not a single issue, it's still ready for use.
Storms shelters are very expensive and cost 8-12K; however, have you priced a funeral for two? Outrages! I am catching up on your videos I missed, late to the game. I watched every video to date on Pole Barn build and I would feel comfortable riding out a Cat 3 hurricane in your house. Only problem low end tornadoes do hit frequently on bad side of hurricanes, normally NE. I am unclear if you order hurricane glass for your house and doors.
Impact glass is not required in my zone. Our closest has no windows. However cat 1 or better, I'm heading to the storm shelter for extra comfort. I'll ride out a cat 4 in it, maybe a cat 5 as long as it isn't a direct hit. It's rated far higher than that, but mentally it would be challenging to stay lol. I'm not quite done with the shelter either I'll have one more video out showing the final reinforcements.
Nice shed but never survive EF4 or 5
This is Florida, we don't get those. Ef0 and ef1s are the most common here.
Is it on a concrete base/floor ?
Yes a 8 inch thick slab.
Is this shelter made of wood?
Yes it is, 6 inch thick solid wood walls. I have a full build series on it if interested. There are engineered plans in the description of the videos. We chose wood for two reasons, we had plenty from a tornado destroyed barn and it's easy for me to work with. This shelter is rated for extremely high winds, much higher than we will ever see in our state.
Want the plans but when I click the link it never loads ... almost like the site no longer exists
Hmmm, I have not checked that in a year or more. I'll look into it
7:03 I realize that this video is months old, but wanted to post anyway.
Anyone doing something similar to this, or plan to use Simpson tie-system you *MUST* use Simpson nails. Or nails rated for tie-systems regardless of brand. These companies spend 100s of thousands of dollars, if not millions, on research for their product. Furthermore, in most places, inspectors will stop the job if the correct fastener is not used in the tie-system.
I get it. It's not house he is building. It is mentioned several times throughout the video about being overkill. However, using the hurricane clips and other ties without the proper fastener is just a waste of time, material, money, effort, and above all . . . a false sense of security. How many times have we heard "... only as strong as the weakest link." Well, those non-Simpson nails are *the* weakest link.
Keep in mind - I have NO idea what fastener he used in the video. This is an FYI for all the weekend warriors watching this. And while the hate rolls my way, do your own research on tie-systems to prove me wrong. xoxoxo
I get a kick out of these comments sometimes, OK I'll bite. I respectfully disagree with some of what you said. For starters I just watched the official Simpson strong tie contractor training video (yeah apparently I have the time) that was specifically for ties and straps. Not one single time did the Simpson rep mention using Simpson nails, I've never even seen them. What was stressed in the training was to use the proper diameter nail for appropriate shear strength. The only time in the training that it was mentioned to use Simpson fasteners was for concrete anchors (I did) and for screws. Screws typically are not allowed in traditional framing and strapping with the exception of a couple of rare cases. Simpson does a very good job of stamping most straps and ties with the required diameter nail for installation. If Simpson required specialty nails for their ties and straps, they'd go out of business. So I took it one step further and went on their website, sure enough they state to use 16d COMMON nails of 2 1/2 inches for the anchor ties I used. I used 3 1/2 inch 16d common nails for my installation. So not only did I use the proper diameter for shear strength, but went a full inch deeper in the wood for more tensile strength as well. Long story short, use the appropriate diameter nail stamped on the side of Simpson straps and ties.
The unsinkable Titanic.
Meanwhile people sit in their sheet rock homes thinking they are protected from storms 🙄
@@TKCLI know I'm late to this party but well said. I've been in construction for 2 decades, used many SST products. The 16d 3 1/2 in nails you used are insanely overboard and I love it. Not to mention, a box of the SST 1 1/2in nails is insanely expensive.
Which do you think you'll have more $$ into by the time both are complete... the new house or the storm shelter? :-)
Plans call for 16 Simpson HTT-5's. Lookin' great!!!
Lol, definitely less in the storm shelter. 16!! Yikes, I have not checked in a while, that's some serious 💵💵💵💵
Why not just put it in the ground ?
Florida is crazy wet, you can't put anything in the ground.
Just use OIL stain. Tourista