Yes, and I thought they said they were going to talk about it, and they mentioned the "third option", but they seemed to completely skip over discussing it.
I would agree, we have a growing family and thought the GH would work. Went to the dealer and check out the interior space. We realize Sienna is still the most convenient for a family that need a lot of space. GH is good for everything else.
My wife went kicking and screaming into a Toyota Sienna in January of 2016 when we had our 4th kid. We tried every three row SUV on the market at the time and nothing worked with 3 kids in car seats except the van. We've spent the last two years looking to replace the van now that the kids are all out of car seats with an SUV. We put two restrictions on ourselves. It had to be significantly more fuel efficient and it had to not be much of a compromise over the van, after trying out everything we put an order in for a grand Highlander hybrid limited last week. Just wish it was a PHEV.
There's a problem I don't know where do I I install my dash cam because there is only a power outlet in front, and o can't use that it because the thing won't close
The interviewer is great ! Panel is great ! It would have been great to talk about the elephant in the room cx 90 as most people are confused between the two. What does panel think ?
Does CR recommend Grand Highlander over a Honda Pilot? Which does CR prefer and why? I personally like the GH but hate the V4-turbo engine (small engine). I like the Pilot and it has the V6 engine but it's a belt vs chain timing belt. I don't want a hybrid system because battery wears down over time and it's not good for a battery to sit for long periods of time. Your thoughts would be appreciated....thanks
I love Toyota but unfortunately this car is overpriced and I cannot get past the new subscriptions. You used to pay extra for Toyota reliability but with this new turbo generation, it's a whole new ballgame. Not sure what justification is left to buy a Toyota over a Hyundai or Mazda.
I ordered a 2025 Limited gas only as we need the room to carry giant scale model airplanes (25 lb) but 88" longish. I measured this one myself to make sure they fit and we are anticipating it coming in next fall. Excited after we drove it and have no issues with power. Actually we currently have a 2021 V6 Highlander Platinum and I couldn't have told you what motor was in the Grand Highlander by driving it. We didn't put the hammer down at all but found it smooth and just fine for the two of us.
It would be nice to have the option to downsize wheels for better fuel economy and cheaper tire sizes. Like honestly i would never use tires over 18in in diameter. Tires get crazy expensive. Its about a 10-30% higher cost from a 20in vs an 18in tire.
I could be wrong but it looks to me like the 18" rims have a larger sidewall and the 20" rims smaller. I suggest the outside diameter might be the same on both judging by the space left in the fender well on both tires.
I got my GH limited Vehicle last week. I like the vehicle. Two issues are it doesn’t have Driver easy speak and second while on Bluetooth call the other end caller cannot hear passenger side person voice. This model comes with microphone on driver and passenger side. But not working, anybody has this issue? Dealer saying microphone on driver side only picks sound, what kind of nonsense. Then what is the point of microphone at passenger side. Any input from any GH owners?
My grand highlander hybrid max is almost stalling on some turns, the tranny would shake and it takes a bit for power to kick in. It's hard to replicate. I brought my car in also because the power would surge on some acceleration. Toyota tried to update the software but it failed up update so they ended up resetting the ECU so the car is working as it should until it relearns my driving habits and will power surge again. I love the car though so dont get me wrong. It's a major upgrade from the RAV4 with space, power, and comfort!
I would like to hear your thoughts on the Lexus TX vs the Toyota Grand Highlander as far as space. Which has more space for a daily use of the third row?
Find a dealer that isn't charging the markup. Go out of state if you need to. Where I live there are 2 dealers in town. One is charging $8,000 markup the other $2000. I told the salesman I would only pay MRSP. He said the $2000 is negotiable.
Does anyone record the EMFs that electric/hybrids cars put off? I saw a video of a guy recording EMFs right in front of a running microwave and then recorded the EMFs in a Tesla and they were about the same with the Tesla a bit higher.
M ichael, I have a problem. N o matter where I look, I can't find a three-row V ehicle that holds all my kids A nd gets decent mpgs. Plus N obody makes a low-floor S UV that's easy to get in and out of. 🤦
I am a Toyota user but this time I will wait for the Chevrolet Traverse Z71 that would give me more space but Toyota is a good vehicle for me due to its durability and economy. I am also one of those who thinks that there is no bad vehicle but rather a bad one
I'm guessing you meant to say bad OWNERS but there are bad engineering decisions that an owner can't compensate for, regardless of maintenance and upkeep.
Toyota since 1984 and was 1000% jacked about this model. Finally plenty of room (Sequoiaish), safety, fuel efficient, not to mention Toyota last forever reliability. Went to a show room today and sat in the driver seat, much very much to my regret Toyota blew it!!! The front seats especially the driver is shoe horned in, I can spread out more in my base 2017 Rav and be extremely comfortable or our 2005 Honda crv for that matter. But the new model Rav and now regrettably this beautiful Grand Highlander the front seats are very compromised due to the large console. Could you not find 3-4 inches space for someone to not sit with their legs so close it's uncomfortable for your giblets. You are forcing me to a honda pilot or Chevy Tahoe. a very sad day. Please please I beg you correct this travesty.
They are having serious issues with the transmissions. The fall apart to pieces in just a few miles. Bought one and after 1500 miles the transmission stopped working. It required a whole new transmission. It was in pieces inside. And if you look into Toyota forums, it’s happening often! And still no fix!
Doors off: Imagine the old race cars without roll bars and all the drivers that died or were severely injured. Now imagine your family's arms and legs flying out of the SUV and getting mangled or amputated. Thanks Dad!
I was a Toyota owner for 30 years and because of dealer greed and availability on the Toyota product. I will no longer be putting a Toyota in my garage. I am so tired of Toyota dealers, taking my ordered vehicles and selling them to the highest bidder. Oh we’re sorry we just don’t know what happened to your order. Oh yes you do you sold it for more money you greedy dealers. I’m done with Toyota. I am now driving a Mazda, bought my Mazda last year at this time for under MSRP sorry Toyota I’m done shame on Toyota for allowing their dealers to treat loyal customers this way.
I think the reason we overlook the jeep door thing is because the amount of people who have died because of it is very low and so no one cares really. Yes it could be dangerous but theres not a huge statistic in people dying from it, as opposed to lets say for easy arguments sake, drinking and driving.
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video but I'm enjoying my Toyota RAV4 PRIME and this sport utility vehicle is too big for me and wonder if it will fit in my underground garage as I live in an apartment 😮, I'm 6'4 so leg room in any vehicle and truck sport utility vehicle is a thing everytime I'm a passenger or driver 😆
Toyota should’ve just made the regular Highlander a bit bigger like Honda did with the Pilot. While Honda reintroduced the Passport as the smaller more off-road option, Toyota already has the 4Runner for that. This new vehicle seems like an afterthought and just Toyota trying to cash-in on what is essentially a stretched RAV4.
If Toyota who can get actual buyer feedback thought they didn't need a bigger highlander. They wouldn't have made it. Also why would Toyota follow honda with thier pilot when the company who made most conquest sells was Hyundai Kia. Consider this the current highlander is number 1 in it's class. It makes way more sense to make vehicle that address the tellurides growing sales than to lose some of your current customers who like the regular highlanders size.
I'm sure the Grand Highlander is a nice enough vehicle...but that price tag is astronomical and Toyota vehicles have become very expensive. Toyota fit and finish has become more spotty (I've been a Toyota buyer my entire life) and I wonder if this is the best choice considering the competition.
As a long time motorcycle rider, driving a jeep without doors being dangerous is funny to me. Also when I was a kid I use to ride in my dad's truck bed. I understand safety is important but so is freedom of choice.
Three vehicles are based on this platform. The Lexus TX and the most expensive Toyota SUV the Crown. Why would you buy the smaller Highlander they are very close in price.
This car is great, but where is Toyotas 3-row full EV Grand Highlander? The competition is way ahead with the Volvo EX90 and the Kia EV9 ready to launch. Come on Toyota…
I don’t know if yet another expensive SUV is needed for this world. Same ohh, same ohh!! The parking lots are tucked full of ever bigger vehicles, painted all in boring metallic shades of red, gray, sometimes black, sometimes white. Where is the originality, the spontaneity, and the simplicity of a car, a station wagon, or a boxy utility? It seems that all manufacturers, including Toyota are phoning in safe corporate designs-failing to innovate, to adapt, to change with technology (electric) and making yet another bland product that I would have trouble finding in a parking lot full of SUVs.
My jettar is smaller then this car and it consume more gas then this Toyota. When I found this out, I was like: " What am I missing? Do I know how to read the milage per gallon?"
Great discussion. So sad that Toyota dumped their sweet V6 for I4 turbos. I prefer a minivan to a 3 row CUV that compromises passenger space for mediocre towing and insipid off-roading.
I am driving a 2023 highlander in-line 4 turbo. it has a horrible engine and horrible handling. I’m at shock anyone would buy these vehicles in this day and age of tellurides and cx90
Lol why would you buy a vehicle that you hate? That just makes you sound like you are uneducated and didnt do any research. Im pretty sure u dont own one and just one of those hundai or mazda fan boys which would make it sound better. To give u a bit of credit the new highlander 4cy turbo def sucks compared to the previous v6 but the new max hybrid engine is pretty much what they put in the lexus. Say what you want about telluride or cx90 but right now GH is the fastest selling car right now. Just look on iseecars. Its got 362 hp 0 to 60 in 6.3 sec, faster than cx90 which is 6.5 sec and also bettet mpg than any of them at 27 avg. Numbers you cant beat.
@@ironwolf4555will you be driving 100 mph with your family and kids. If I want to be the age of 25, I get a Honda Civic turbo or the new Toyota supra.
Telluride is great - just hope it doesn't go up in flames or get stolen (car or parts) while parked on your driveway since you may not be able to park in the garage 🔥 CX90 is expensive and has a small third-row, trash cup holders, weird design decisions, and no ceiling vents - not good for families IMO.
These have been having engine problems, I'm reading. So there's that, plus coupled with a cheap, Walmart grade interior, 10+ year old instrument cluster and uncomfortable seats/ride..not good Toyota. Not good.
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For most people, the Grand Highlander with the regular hybrid is the best option. 34 mpg combined is amazing for a vehicle this size.
Good luck getting one, theyre making almost all regular gas. Hybrid waits will take forever with the demand.
Yes, and I thought they said they were going to talk about it, and they mentioned the "third option", but they seemed to completely skip over discussing it.
Exactly.
Currently i have a rav4 hybrid. So Yeah ill wait.
I’m in line for one. Estimated March. At MSRP
I would agree, we have a growing family and thought the GH would work. Went to the dealer and check out the interior space. We realize Sienna is still the most convenient for a family that need a lot of space. GH is good for everything else.
My wife went kicking and screaming into a Toyota Sienna in January of 2016 when we had our 4th kid. We tried every three row SUV on the market at the time and nothing worked with 3 kids in car seats except the van. We've spent the last two years looking to replace the van now that the kids are all out of car seats with an SUV. We put two restrictions on ourselves. It had to be significantly more fuel efficient and it had to not be much of a compromise over the van, after trying out everything we put an order in for a grand Highlander hybrid limited last week. Just wish it was a PHEV.
Why not test the regular 2.5L hybrid? Thats the one a lot of people will go for.
I just bought a brand new grandhighlander its really good the only thing i wish is to still have a v6 3.5 it was a great engine!!!
yes the same engine that is in my 2007 Camry!
Yes, 3.5 V6 is far better than 2.4L 4 cylinders with turbo I think
There's a problem I don't know where do I I install my dash cam because there is only a power outlet in front, and o can't use that it because the thing won't close
CR, You should have bought the 34 mpg Hybrid for your fleet. 🤨
Right. I mean, they didn't even talk about the regular hybrid which is probably the best choice for most.
@@toronado455 Exactly.
Yes
I've had a Platinum Hybrid Max since August 2023. You can't beat the power with the Hybrid Max.
Thank you, Michael. Sienna is still the roomiest of all and uses 2mpg less.
Correction Kia Carnival eats Sienna breakfast all day but why would compare a minivan that looks like a whale to handsome SUV???
The interviewer is great ! Panel is great ! It would have been great to talk about the elephant in the room cx 90 as most people are confused between the two. What does panel think ?
Does CR recommend Grand Highlander over a Honda Pilot? Which does CR prefer and why? I personally like the GH but hate the V4-turbo engine (small engine). I like the Pilot and it has the V6 engine but it's a belt vs chain timing belt. I don't want a hybrid system because battery wears down over time and it's not good for a battery to sit for long periods of time. Your thoughts would be appreciated....thanks
I have a gh gas limited and it’s just my wife and I… for now. Coming from a Tesla the storage, comfort and higher stance were all benefits
Very happy with my (4th) regular Highlander (2022) with its trustworthy six-cylinder engine. Checked out the GH, but saw no need to trade.
Should I get a used 2021 Toyota highlander limited platinum or a 2023 Toyota grand highlander xle
Which one has better fuel consumption and why? XLE, Limited, or Platinum
I love Toyota but unfortunately this car is overpriced and I cannot get past the new subscriptions.
You used to pay extra for Toyota reliability but with this new turbo generation, it's a whole new ballgame. Not sure what justification is left to buy a Toyota over a Hyundai or Mazda.
I ordered a 2025 Limited gas only as we need the room to carry giant scale model airplanes (25 lb) but 88" longish. I measured this one myself to make sure they fit and we are anticipating it coming in next fall. Excited after we drove it and have no issues with power. Actually we currently have a 2021 V6 Highlander Platinum and I couldn't have told you what motor was in the Grand Highlander by driving it. We didn't put the hammer down at all but found it smooth and just fine for the two of us.
It would be nice to have the option to downsize wheels for better fuel economy and cheaper tire sizes. Like honestly i would never use tires over 18in in diameter. Tires get crazy expensive. Its about a 10-30% higher cost from a 20in vs an 18in tire.
I could be wrong but it looks to me like the 18" rims have a larger sidewall and the 20" rims smaller. I suggest the outside diameter might be the same on both judging by the space left in the fender well on both tires.
The Grand Highlander will sell like hotcakes. And it will be in short supply for years.
What would be ideal would be a Grand Highlander Sienna minivan!
I got my GH limited Vehicle last week. I like the vehicle. Two issues are it doesn’t have Driver easy speak and second while on Bluetooth call the other end caller cannot hear passenger side person voice. This model comes with microphone on driver and passenger side. But not working, anybody has this issue? Dealer saying microphone on driver side only picks sound, what kind of nonsense. Then what is the point of microphone at passenger side. Any input from any GH owners?
Going crazy with the turbos most people will get the regular 2.5 hybrid
I got the 2.5 hybrid. It's still very powerful.
@@mystygrams1. Congratulations. Enjoy your new car. We want to hear more from you as you are the actual owner and driver
My grand highlander hybrid max is almost stalling on some turns, the tranny would shake and it takes a bit for power to kick in. It's hard to replicate. I brought my car in also because the power would surge on some acceleration. Toyota tried to update the software but it failed up update so they ended up resetting the ECU so the car is working as it should until it relearns my driving habits and will power surge again. I love the car though so dont get me wrong. It's a major upgrade from the RAV4 with space, power, and comfort!
Can you compare Mazda CX 90 hybrid vs Grand Highlander hybrid Max?
I would like to hear your thoughts on the Lexus TX vs the Toyota Grand Highlander as far as space. Which has more space for a daily use of the third row?
Will the HIghlander get cancelled? With 2023 pricing a $6400 upcharge.
Find a dealer that isn't charging the markup. Go out of state if you need to. Where I live there are 2 dealers in town. One is charging $8,000 markup the other $2000. I told the salesman I would only pay MRSP. He said the $2000 is negotiable.
@@mvj1960 are you talking about the regular Highlander or the Grand?
Does anyone record the EMFs that electric/hybrids cars put off? I saw a video of a guy recording EMFs right in front of a running microwave and then recorded the EMFs in a Tesla and they were about the same with the Tesla a bit higher.
M ichael,
I have a problem.
N o matter where I look,
I can't find a three-row
V ehicle that holds all my kids
A nd gets decent mpgs. Plus
N obody makes a low-floor
S UV that's easy to get in and out of.
🤦
The third row in the regular Highlander is unusual for adults. The GH is a great move for those who want to put adults back there.
Love this channel!
I am a Toyota user but this time I will wait for the Chevrolet Traverse Z71 that would give me more space but Toyota is a good vehicle for me due to its durability and economy. I am also one of those who thinks that there is no bad vehicle but rather a bad one
Goodluck
I'm guessing you meant to say bad OWNERS but there are bad engineering decisions that an owner can't compensate for, regardless of maintenance and upkeep.
you 😊😊😊
Why can’t minivans have a bit more ground clearance, over 8” which is recommended for forest service roads?
They do. It’s called the grand highlander. Or sequoia.
Mazda used to make something like that.
More ground clearance equals more wind drag and fuel economy suffers.
99% of people don’t drive on forest service roads regularly. Don’t buy a car for your extreme case situations.
Toyota since 1984 and was 1000% jacked about this model. Finally plenty of room (Sequoiaish), safety, fuel efficient, not to mention Toyota last forever reliability. Went to a show room today and sat in the driver seat, much very much to my regret Toyota blew it!!! The front seats especially the driver is shoe horned in, I can spread out more in my base 2017 Rav and be extremely comfortable or our 2005 Honda crv for that matter. But the new model Rav and now regrettably this beautiful Grand Highlander the front seats are very compromised due to the large console. Could you not find 3-4 inches space for someone to not sit with their legs so close it's uncomfortable for your giblets. You are forcing me to a honda pilot or Chevy Tahoe. a very sad day. Please please I beg you correct this travesty.
They are having serious issues with the transmissions. The fall apart to pieces in just a few miles. Bought one and after 1500 miles the transmission stopped working. It required a whole new transmission. It was in pieces inside. And if you look into Toyota forums, it’s happening often! And still no fix!
I guess the question is which one to buy? Grand H or Pilot?
Yeap I’m between the two
I'm getting the Pilot Trailsport or Elite: GH driving dynamics is floaty while Pilot hugs the road.
If you need a V6, then go Pilot. Otherwise, the GH hybrid (non max) has incredible gas mileage for this segment and more interior space.
Doors off: Imagine the old race cars without roll bars and all the drivers that died or were severely injured. Now imagine your family's arms and legs flying out of the SUV and getting mangled or amputated. Thanks Dad!
I was a Toyota owner for 30 years and because of dealer greed and availability on the Toyota product. I will no longer be putting a Toyota in my garage. I am so tired of Toyota dealers, taking my ordered vehicles and selling them to the highest bidder. Oh we’re sorry we just don’t know what happened to your order. Oh yes you do you sold it for more money you greedy dealers. I’m done with Toyota. I am now driving a Mazda, bought my Mazda last year at this time for under MSRP sorry Toyota I’m done shame on Toyota for allowing their dealers to treat loyal customers this way.
If folks are that worried about people driving without doors, wait till they see motorcyclists
Yes! The car review I was waiting for!
I think the reason we overlook the jeep door thing is because the amount of people who have died because of it is very low and so no one cares really. Yes it could be dangerous but theres not a huge statistic in people dying from it, as opposed to lets say for easy arguments sake, drinking and driving.
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video but I'm enjoying my Toyota RAV4 PRIME and this sport utility vehicle is too big for me and wonder if it will fit in my underground garage as I live in an apartment 😮, I'm 6'4 so leg room in any vehicle and truck sport utility vehicle is a thing everytime I'm a passenger or driver 😆
Toyota should’ve just made the regular Highlander a bit bigger like Honda did with the Pilot. While Honda reintroduced the Passport as the smaller more off-road option, Toyota already has the 4Runner for that. This new vehicle seems like an afterthought and just Toyota trying to cash-in on what is essentially a stretched RAV4.
If Toyota who can get actual buyer feedback thought they didn't need a bigger highlander. They wouldn't have made it. Also why would Toyota follow honda with thier pilot when the company who made most conquest sells was Hyundai Kia. Consider this the current highlander is number 1 in it's class. It makes way more sense to make vehicle that address the tellurides growing sales than to lose some of your current customers who like the regular highlanders size.
I test drove the GH and don’t like the 4cyl turbocharged engine. The 4cyl engine feels much better in the RX350.
Does it vaguely look like an X7 in profile to anyone else?
I'm sure the Grand Highlander is a nice enough vehicle...but that price tag is astronomical and Toyota vehicles have become very expensive. Toyota fit and finish has become more spotty (I've been a Toyota buyer my entire life) and I wonder if this is the best choice considering the competition.
The consumers are not complaining about the price. Lol
It's selling like hotcakes.
It's actually priced very close to the regular Highlander.
which vehicles hasn’t “become very expensive”?
Agreed
@@619elephant9most consumers are not smart. They tend to be a sheep.
As a long time motorcycle rider, driving a jeep without doors being dangerous is funny to me. Also when I was a kid I use to ride in my dad's truck bed. I understand safety is important but so is freedom of choice.
Yes I’ve wanted one for years but now that you took away v6 I’ll pass.
Too big for city use.
Hybrid only option.
Three vehicles are based on this platform. The Lexus TX and the most expensive Toyota SUV the Crown. Why would you buy the smaller Highlander they are very close in price.
The smaller Highlander has its own advantages.
Hello everyone
CR "It's nice they keep it simple and cheap fealing inside. It's charming"
CR "they are charging 50.000 dollar"
This car is great, but where is Toyotas 3-row full EV Grand Highlander? The competition is way ahead with the Volvo EX90 and the Kia EV9 ready to launch. Come on Toyota…
I don’t know if yet another expensive SUV is needed for this world. Same ohh, same ohh!! The parking lots are tucked full of ever bigger vehicles, painted all in boring metallic shades of red, gray, sometimes black, sometimes white. Where is the originality, the spontaneity, and the simplicity of a car, a station wagon, or a boxy utility? It seems that all manufacturers, including Toyota are phoning in safe corporate designs-failing to innovate, to adapt, to change with technology (electric) and making yet another bland product that I would have trouble finding in a parking lot full of SUVs.
The grand highlander looks so dated already- like early 2000s dated
I can't unsee the Rav4 😴
My jettar is smaller then this car and it consume more gas then this Toyota. When I found this out, I was like: " What am I missing? Do I know how to read the milage per gallon?"
Not ...bring the 3.5 V6....
Great discussion. So sad that Toyota dumped their sweet V6 for I4 turbos. I prefer a minivan to a 3 row CUV that compromises passenger space for mediocre towing and insipid off-roading.
What? A Dell? Somebody get Michael a MacBook already!
lol, they got 2 power train that least desirable.
I am driving a 2023 highlander in-line 4 turbo. it has a horrible engine and horrible handling. I’m at shock anyone would buy these vehicles in this day and age of tellurides and cx90
Lol why would you buy a vehicle that you hate? That just makes you sound like you are uneducated and didnt do any research. Im pretty sure u dont own one and just one of those hundai or mazda fan boys which would make it sound better. To give u a bit of credit the new highlander 4cy turbo def sucks compared to the previous v6 but the new max hybrid engine is pretty much what they put in the lexus. Say what you want about telluride or cx90 but right now GH is the fastest selling car right now. Just look on iseecars. Its got 362 hp 0 to 60 in 6.3 sec, faster than cx90 which is 6.5 sec and also bettet mpg than any of them at 27 avg. Numbers you cant beat.
@@ironwolf4555 rental ;)
@@ironwolf4555will you be driving 100 mph with your family and kids. If I want to be the age of 25, I get a Honda Civic turbo or the new Toyota supra.
Telluride is great - just hope it doesn't go up in flames or get stolen (car or parts) while parked on your driveway since you may not be able to park in the garage 🔥 CX90 is expensive and has a small third-row, trash cup holders, weird design decisions, and no ceiling vents - not good for families IMO.
These have been having engine problems, I'm reading. So there's that, plus coupled with a cheap, Walmart grade interior, 10+ year old instrument cluster and uncomfortable seats/ride..not good Toyota. Not good.
If its not a v8 i dont want it.