What's Going on With Inzoi??
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- When it was first announced, Inzoi, the life sim from Krafton, caused lots of hype for its hyperrealistic graphics, open world, characters, and customization. And while there were Inzoi early access reviews and demos, it's been quiet since. Will this K sim reallyhold to the release date in 2024? And what does it say about all the upcoming sim games- from paralives to project Renee (sims 5) to life by you and other games like the sims?
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Past Inzoi Videos For Context:
Potential Red Flags Video
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How the Art Was Created Video
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Any idea when it is coming out? I’ve been waiting for Inzoi, Paralives and Life By You to come out. I can’t wait for them.
Maybe the radio silence might be a cultural difference in business models? I don't know if Asian companies have as much communication with players as western ones.
I, myself, want to try Inzoi as is a fresh air from the American West Coast imaginery we have in Sims 4, Paralives and LBY
it's possible. however, they are marketing clearly to American and European markets as well, given the influencers they reached out to.
@@SimmerErinI’m a little confused on why marketing to us matters compared to cultural differences? Wanting us to buy it still wouldn’t change the way business models work in Asia, and there may not be anyone from America or the UK on these teams, so this person could be right. Asian companies market to us all the time, but they never really change their business mottos to do it. Sort of like Sanrio, we don’t get a bunch of advertisements the way we would if it was American, but many of us still buy it. A mod for their discord server did say something about them creating socials, but I worry that they’ll never be as open and translucent as we’re used to, because we never see much about PUBG content either. (Hope that didn’t sound mean, I’m just genuinely confused on/curious about how these two things correlate.)
@@SimmerErin In my experience, even the korean games that really want into the global market almost completely ignores the global market. Like Black Desert, Lost Ark. It took years for localization, and most of the time was just radio silence.
I had completely forgotten about Inzoi if I am honest. Sure the graphics looks great but it has hardly anything unique that catches my interest personally.
graphics can draw people in- and in some cases- people will not consider a game they don't like the graphics. however, I think long term it's hard to argue that they can sustain a meaningful player base alone
Tbh the graphics were the biggest red flag for me personally. They’re impressive but i never wanted the sims to be THIS photorealistic. I know a lot of people don’t like ts4’s graphics but i think some level of style is needed, otherwise it’ll either end up uncanny or extremely dated as soon as technology improves and something else becomes even more realistic. I feel like this level of realism visually would also be very limiting for a sims game, a lot of people like to create sims with wacky features and bend reality a bit more.
@@mr.broman3721 a fair point. I suspect it won't have the silliness or whimsy or fantastic elements
@@mr.broman3721you didn’t. I did. This game looks absolutely amazing and not stupid cartoony
@@Itoshimi High end graphics require a high end gpu which will limit its playerbase because most folks playing life sims aren't hardcore gamers and don't have $800-$1K+ to drop on a gpu just to play a game, especially in this economy where people are having to sell their house and buy a tiny home off amazon just to not be homeless. Meanwhile the "cartoony" game is playable by just about anyone with an off the shelf laptop with integrated graphics they bought from walmart 5+ years ago.
Girl let them cook. Also as someone who has worked in Korea before (fluent in 한국) Korea is a very hyper competitive society, also evey project we worked on we would have to sign NDA's with lawyers.
Unlike in the west where it's market 1st delivery later. Face matters alot in Korea and a half baked product will result in distrust and bankruptcy.
I sadly think we have just gotten used to the model of oversell in your face marketing here that when something isn't instant info people can't comprehend it.
Also western consumers are alot more forgiving then eastern consumers.
100% agree we should be skeptical about INZOI. I thought the initial announcement was sketchy as hell. The radio silence since then isn't reassuring either. I think them using Unreal Engine 5 allowed the graphics to look great and this is basically all the game has going for it atm.
I'd still be willing to try it but I'm not looking for a heavy microtransaction game... we already have The Sims 4 for that 🤣
They are also using Ai scanning tech to achieve the graphics- but certainly, the engine itself is very capable of those higher end realistic graphics. I do feel that the turn around time is very very unsual- that would be under two years total for a full game launch
sims 4 technically does not have microtransactions. it has dlc and kits. I do argue there is a substantive difference.
@@SimmerErin You are right. 2 years to make a game feels insane. I do wonder if they launch under "Early Access" as that's becoming very acceptable now.
I was half joking about TS4 but I do feel like kits are basically their way of implementing microtransactions in the system they built. I am scared of Project Rene because they will certainly push monetization further if they can get away with it.
@@h2ohero739 I do plan to discuss Renee more- cause I have a lot of feelings about it, and I'm keen on looking at how perspectives may be the same or differ from mine (which have changed as I've gotten more info)
And yes, the timeline I could maybe see for a very simple game- but a full life sim game? doesn't seem feasible. also has other implications about working conditions etc. just not a good sign imho
@@maycherryblossoms I'm just saying everyone should remain skeptical until the game releases (or at least until we get more info). It's great if you are optimistic. I would love for the game to be the next amazing life sim, but companies need to earn consumer trust and confidence. It's not our job to coddle them.
Crofton likes to buy indies that starved before they could release and never credit them, and also own their own junkyard of games that were never finished, so maybe they didn’t have that much to do to get it ready in two years
I think Inzoi will be really popular with machinima creators. Creating stories and short movies, etc.
certainly could see that
Allegedly there’s going to be a big announcement about InZoi in April and possibly more play testing this year
interesting. where do such speculative statements come from/ what is the source
I heard about this announcement too.
Well, it's already past mid april.
And about graphics, if you visit east asian CC creators (for sims 4) websites and blogs most of them, if not all, like and create alpha CC. Maybe that's why Inzoi caters for the hyper realistic, that's the style of graphics their future playerbase might cater.
I've worked for a Korean gaming company before. It really depended on the project and the devs.
Yeah, seems like it would be amazing for people into Machinima making. But, i'm more interested in larger scale games. I even prefer colony management simulations than the sims really. I want to thank Erin for covering this topic though, otherwise i this game would be completely off my radar.
it's an overall trend, if you look at AAA games in a variety of genres.
@@somegenerichandle I really could care less about the graphics either way tbh. I rate gameplay above most things and i think in the end, gameplay will be the make or break. Graphics only get you so far. PalWorld isn’t hyper realistic and is making bank right now because the gameplay is fun. Even swaying people who aren’t into Pokemon style graphics and just into survivalist gameplay. Things that made me off put in initial reviews were things like babies being able to be left home alone for hours without repercussions. And showing these hyper realistic kid models on a playground with non-interactable playground equipment. Which is a call back to one of my biggest issues with Sims 4…things filling up space that aren’t useable in gameplay. Also, it seems like community spaces will be set and based on scanned in real world environments and be unchangeable except for a filter to make it ‘cartoony’ which looks like trash. While I am not the biggest builder in the world, when I do invest time in something it’s usually my community spaces because that’s where my characters can collide with others. I am a bit turned off by having no build controls outside my lot and I got the impression that was the case with InZoi.
Korea is hyper focused on appearance in general
the talk of cosmetic microtransactions made me remember the answer to a question that thecottonsock was asked in her inzoi stream. someone asked if people would be able to create mods/cc for the game, and the answer was that the developers want it so that people "won't need to use mods/cc". with these two things in mind, i'm starting to think that cc isn't going to be available for inzoi. krafton is going to want players to spend money on microtransactions to unlock new clothes and hairstyles instead
oh interesting, so they were able to talk directly to the devs? is there anyway I could watch this
That is kind of vague though.. need and want are different.. technically you don't need cc to play the sims either. It is just many people feel it enhances their game play. I am curious how it goes down. Chances are if it is free to start I will jump in and take a look but if it is locked down making it difficult to make cc for that will be unfortunate.
@@jijipoid exactly. i said the same thing in the chat when the question was answered. sure you don't "need" cc and mods, but for the people who like and want to use them, having more options to create characters and live their lives will always be better than only relying on the stuff in-game
The director also recently said that he doesn't want to nickel and dime using microtransactions.
I do not forget INZOI, waiting every day for new informations...I love it
Inzoi makes me nervous. It’s promising an awful lot on a really short timeline. It’s been in development for a bit over a year and is supposed to be launching I believe this year. Even for an early access release that is really fast for a full 3d life sim. On top of this the people who got to demo the game were sent computers to do so which both raises concerns about how accessible the game will be performance wise not to mention runs into some slight ethical questions about buying good press (after all the people playing the game are getting a nice computer out of the deal which raises concerns of bias in what they then say about the game).
I’m not saying the game will be bad or that the people who played the demo are for sure biased it just is raising a lot of red flags that make me worried about how the game will actually turn out.
The use of AI to create the world, characters and assets, combined with perhaps higher expectations for hours worked of course, could shortcut some of the timeline. working conditions and how a game is developed will vary that. It is of course hard to know for certain all the internal things that happen
I'm the person who did the motion capture for the female character. It is still in development and is around 60% done but needs a lot more work! I'm working with them again this year to film more movements! But that is all I know...
The makers of Inzoi already have a few games out that actually do really well so that gives me better assurance versus newer companies with no catalog like Paralives or Life by You.
yes, krafton is an established studio. there's no arguing with that.
however, life by you's paradox is as well- and the same argument ofc can be made for sims
and all of course have various known cons
All that really means is that it's more likely the game will release at some point, rather than being cancelled or never appearing. Beyond that it doesn't really mean anything, especially when you look at what their catalogue consists of.
Paradox has a catalogue of successful games lol
@@tisvana18 Paradox Interactive is the parent company but as far as I know, this is their first game for the team working on Life by You.
@@SimmerErin very true. The genre is plagued with games that never made it or were produced with subpar results. I’m digging Inzoi’s city aspect which the other games lack at the moment.
Plus, Paradox Interactive is the publisher. Their subsidiary, Paradox Tectonic, is the developer and I believe this is their first game.
I think it makes sense that they don’t state the release date since it looks very finished, but they are probably ironing out the last bit of mechanics. However, no pay model is concerning. I rather not be subscription base and how it has expansion packs. Edit: I’m super excited about this game!
I don't mind not having an official release date. It's m ore the lack of info overall - especially monetization yes
I‘m old-school. I happily pay 70 bucks for a game. I expect it to be finished and bug free. Just like it was in the 80s, 90s and early noughts. I really don’t like what’s happening in the gaming industry right now. Unfinished games, not owning the game anymore, always online, data collection, bugs galore, paying for mods.. Just give me a frikkin cd and leave me in peace..
I don’t play Free-to-play games on principle. I just got my nephew a €50 Fortnite gift thingy - barely enough for 3 skins. I was shocked!
I wished people would react like they did with Diablo Immortal. Us old-school-gamers were not having it.
I‘m utterly uninterested in inZoi if it’s free. 🤷🏻♀️
I don't expect a game to be 100 percent bug free (don't think I have played a game that is perfect?) but I generally am cool with paying for the base as well. I don't think a free to enter game inherently saves you money in the long run, and I do think there's a concerning trend- to release game in a state that doesn't feel polished
Everyday I read people not being able to even launch the Sims 4... and I'm just here living my best life with my Sims 2 CDs that are mine, that I can share with friends and reinstall everywhere I want, and that I can launch whenever I want.
I want to go back to a slower gaming model, where we don't get thousands of games a year just for them to be buggy and cash grabby as hell and not even ours. We need to slow down our consumption of everything, for our own sake. This isn't sustainable.
I agree with you, please charge me more to buy a game and don’t make me connect to your company constantly to play and correct things released unfinished on purpose. Stop treating me like a casino guest
@@oceanegougeon3025 I am mod and cc free. My experience with sims 4 is it has bugs, and a pack I avoid entirely (which I do not find acceptable btw-) but usually it's okay. Sims 2 has some bugs here and there. Sims 3 I have been really lucky apparently, but it does get of course very weird in island Paradise. However, the 64 bit update has made the performance better as a whole
I see you everywhere, Vox.
Honestly, i dont think there is a need to create a negative video for something that hasnt even come out yet. Let the game release then create a negative video. It diesnt even collect any money from us. This is like me making a video on Moana 2, when we've only seen the trailer.
I'm providing my concerns based upon the information I have. It's' fine to have a different opinion, of course- or not watch if the video doesn't interest you. Further that is not a good comparison. We have seen a full early access preview of this game.
@SimmerErin But you did not play it. So you don't know even about the monetization, in fact all of us on the outside who havent joined the discord, do not know, as you say your videos are speculation. So you should write this my opinion only. The poor game hasn't even come yet and there's nothing but negative videos and negative comments by people who haven't played. They don't even ask for money like Paralives. I say wait some months let the game finish being developed, or closer to development - then create your negative video.
@@ambergathings7160How is this negative? You seem overly sensitive ngl.
@mojaslatt Posting a video like "Red Flags and The Problem " and not positive. All I'm saying is for Erin wait until at least the game comes out or is atleast close to being actually developed to create negative videos on it. Because sending bad press and media for a game that hasn't even released will hurt it.
I'm not too concerned about when they'll release the game. As far as I'm concerned, currently it is still really early in 2024. If they choose to stall the release like LBY, I wouldn't mind that either. I'm still excited about this game regardless.
I think stalling would tbh be an excellent choice for long term results
I honestly forgot about this game. I can wait to hear more on it.
it's so weird, I was thinking they'd update their website and release blog
@@SimmerErin Consider this a poor showing of how they run? If they are a smaller company, they need a PR manager.
@@skyydancer67I mean they’re not a small company, they’re the publishers of PUBG and Subnautica
@@skyydancer67 they're a prominent company, so it's strange. I will admit, I do not know the history of how they typically market their games
@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 I did not know so I was trying to give them a benefit of a doubt. Maybe they having some internal "hiccups" they were trying to keep under wraps? I have to agree with SimmerErin on this- they're being strange.
I've heard it all before, tight schedules leading to a broken shallow mess. All the signs lead to a massive red flag.
it certainly can yes
Krafton are the makers of pubg and Pubg is doing very well so I'm being very hopeful
Well tbh it’s only February so I don’t think this is really that much of an issue yet. Once we’re halfway through the year that’s where I’ll get a bit concerned
I think my main concern is that they didn't provide any info even after a demo, which seems strange? But for sure, we aren't half way through the year yet. perhaps they will release some info in a month or two
fr people think every game is a scam nowadays. we’re barely two months into 2024. literal Nintendo makes game announcements like this as well “coming 2024” and then don’t say anything until a few months before release. it’s a norm for a lot of game companies people just love to cause drama
that being said the game may look pretty but i’m put off by it straight away. it does not se to have any diversity and even the body sliders are really unrealistic. the “regular” bodies are very skinny and the game employs korean beauty standards very strongly (which are very unhealthy). if they really wanted to market the game towards the rest of the world they should’ve made it diverse instead of basing it on niche and unhealthy standards of beauty. I really hate when games do this. i think it’s a massive issues that companies promise realism but don’t actually have any realism at all. i think we have enough unhealthy and unrealistic representations of beauty in the world and we don’t need any more. this game COULD be good but i really think that they won’t implement the things they need. a lot of korean companies do this, primarily makeup companies. i think it’s embarrassing that in 2024 there are still so many companies that do not want to be inclusive and ACTUALLY focus on diversity like they claim to. it’s really not that hard to include some more sliders and do basic research on human anatomy (as in what average people look like and how much people actually tend to weight on average)
@@styrofoam4637 I've never called it a scam. nor do I think it is a scam. It's from a company with a history. I have merely stated doubts about the overall quality- which to me is not anything close to a scam. I almost never in fact use the word scam
@@SimmerErin i’m not talking about you i’m just generalising what i’ve seen in the comments. i’m talking about how a lot of people talk about unreleased video game. my comment was not directly aimed at you
It feels like the most realistic thing about InZoi is the graphics, every thing else seems kinda shallow.
I agree that the demo wasn't exactly promising, not terrible but not great- and well- the game having only been in development under a year, I don't honestly see how it could be complex
It's been in development for a year now, I would say it's going well if their progress speed is this much
In the interview given by the Krafton PD himself, 2024 was emphasized. In another source, it was also mentioned as 2024 and the end of 2024 was emphasized as an extra.
yes, they seem very set on it, even if we don't have any other details. at this point, I expect it will be 2024 even though idk it's advisable
I am not surprised at all, they released the trial in November-Decemeber. I didn't expect to hear anymore until around June or July. I figure they got feedback and are in the middle of fixing and adding right now. I like the fact it will be free out the door, as that will give people a chance to play and decide if they actually like it before investing any money. Demos and free to play are more likely to get my money than a game that I can not play ahead of time. I'm just unsure about investing in a game I can't determine if I actually like. Time will tell with this game like all others, but I don't expect to hear anything before May at the earliest.
it seems that free to enter games are the most popular way games are going now. certainly there are pros- and potential cons too,
strategically for them, it's a good bet to initially get more players
@@SimmerErin People are tired of spending money on a game to find out it's garbage. People want a chance to play first, it's the reason why PC mag and PlayStation used to send out demo discs back in the 90s. I don't need free to play, a demo is fine. I am also not big into micro transactions so the fact that they are going that way makes it more likely that I will either avoid the game or go into it knowing I'm just going to play around with it. There are other great games coming out. Honestly though Sims 4 has over 1000 worth of DLC, so is it really any different?
Since you can just watch multiple streamers and reviewers play a game and ask them live questions about it for as long as you want before buying, I think a lot of old marketing for games is no longer needed, and free to play is dubious as the successor to demos. It’s more of a hook to treat gamers like gamblers
@@NerdyNanaSimulations =yes, I would argue that in game transactions are in fact substantially different than the dlc model
@@joyfulgirl91 fair, that is true. we have more ways to get info than ever
actually in discord there a channel that a employe from krafton answer questions about the game
that's great to hear there is some form of communication. I am curious why so little is readily public.
oh what channel?
I think the desperation for a Sims competitor makes people willing to overlook a loooot of stuff, because this game is crawling with red flags to me lol
yes, I agree. I also see on the other hand that same demand being transferred in weird ways- for instance, I see a lot of people saying paralives is already way better than sims... and it's not in early access yet. kinda worries me
I also agree, the companies behind Inzoi were immediate red fllags for me. The Inzoi demo didn't really show that much at all, yet people were massively hyping it up as the new king, the saviour from the Sims or whatever. A similar thing happened with Paralives (LBY as well to a much lesser extent) which is part of why some folks are calling PL's development slow.
@@Elwaves2925 I bet most shut up bout that when paralives announced they'll release the early access in 2025.
@@Elwaves2925 yes, for sure, and I don't think the mentality is truly helpful to those games either
I think we need to take account how asian markets work vs western markets. for us, yes the 2024 release and silence is worrying, but thats kind of how thikngs work there. they typically work a lot quicker with things and dont really clarifiy much unless needed
certainly there may be some differences. they are aiming = based upon who they reached out to, to also reach European and American markets too
I am okay with silence right now because unless they are looking for community feedback to develop the game, what is the purpose of more communication before the game is ready to market and sell?
if they already had a full demo and they plan to release in 2024, it's just really unusual to not have any information available for people who might be interested- for example, a listing of the main features of the game and so forth
@@SimmerErin I’ve seen other comments pointing out those things are less normal for Asian game companies, but it’s interesting that their parent company isn’t exactly known for loving gamers. I guess personally I am a bit fatigued by long cycles of hype for media, particularly for games. I understand an indie game like paralives that can’t survive without a community, and I understand that life by you is looking for a lot of feedback, but I am starting to mentally push away at corporate communication that is purely marketing for an unfinished product that can still change too much to make a decision or become a fan
I think its most likely the end of 2024 rather than beginning/middle of the year they should have said for sure on dates though. i am still hopeful, it looks amazing more my style than the others out there. I am also worried that Sims 5 will be knocked back too with Grant leaving. Fingers crossed Inzoi comes out though so i will wait and see. Thanks for the update I always love your vids.
yes, I really think end would make most sense
as for renee- yes, it's worth noting people coming and going, but I don't think one person means inherently we can draw broad conclusions
welcome, take care!
If you remember I had serious doubts about this from the start. Not because of what they showed but because of the companies behind it and their monetisation practices. While I liked what they showed, it got too much hype IMO and as you say we really didn't see that much in action. The more I saw left me with more doubts as everyone was closely repeating the same things, like it was scripted. Not saying it was, it just highights how little there was to it. While I didn't consider it being delayed, if I had I would have predicted a delay without question.
certainly, I think I recall you saying so. And I think it's good of course to look ate the company as a whole too
Thanks for the update. It is odd that there's not more information out there with a release being this year. Guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm still very interested in this one though.
welcome, sorry there isn't much to report on. I assume if they really are doing 2024- we'll have to get an official listing at some point here
It's worth mentioning that PUBG that originally a paid game although it was only the case on PC and console as PUBG Mobile was released as a free to play game similar to Among Us and Vampire Survivors. PUBG did later be free to play similar to other games including The Sims 4.
Interesting that competition is mentioned. I believe releasing a game close to another game could affect a game as it'll end up competing with other games. The Sims 3 Pets is an example as it was released close to other games like Batman: Arkham City, Battlefield 3, and Sony's Uncharted 3, and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, and The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword would be released in the following month.
Games can get hype for many reasons. Hogwarts Legacy got attention namely because it's the first major Harry Potter game on a PC/console since LEGO Harry Potter: Years 5-7 (exactly 11 years apart) as well as due to the mixed reception of Hogwarts Legacy (being the HP equivalent of Metroid: Other M). I believe the reason Paralives and other similar games (Life by You and inZOI) could be getting attention could be due to Simmers' dissatisfaction of The Sims. The fact there hasn't been a new Sims game since *2018* with The Sims Mobile's release could also factor into the hype.
yes, certainly all factors to consider and a very thoughtful reply
my opinion is, though, in turn, many are looking to these games as a pancea- and many of these games could mimic things they do not like about sims
They are making the game. It’s obvious that it is in early development. Give it a couple of years
Except as I mentioned many times, they are committed to a full 2024 release, which is the subject of the entire video
@@SimmerErinyeah I’m starting to think they may not stick to that. They suggested they’ll be working on 3 worlds for the game this year and then expanding after.. but they also said they all must be fleshed out. Their team has expanded quickly, and developing the first world will make the other easier, but I don’t think they can pull it off this year. I reckon they’ll end up releasing some sort of demo rather than the full game
I'm curious about it though my main thing is the game play engaging? The graphics are amazing I do respect the team working hard on the graphics but what keeps me sticking to the sims in the first place as a kid with sims 2 and 3 is the game play.
the graphics are AI generated- so it's not so much they worked hard on the graphics (though a coordinator was required, so it isn't to say of course they took no work). I do agree that for me, graphics alone do not make a game engaging.
I heard that in the video but man, the graphics are AI?? The 3D models?? If thats the case I won’t support a game that uses AI art….
What a shame
3:56 On Steam, if a games price is free that means it has no microtransactions and if a games price is free to play that means there is microtransactions. If I recall correctly, at least (take this with a grain of salt).
Just something of note :]
thanks, appreciate the info
Honestly, this game can't flop. There is silence now and that's it, the moment it releases it sure will be a hit. Remember Palworld ? As for me, that game will turn my pc into a grill
, I'd like to understand a bit more about your perspective, why do you feel it's impossible for it to flop>? and what are your overall expectations?
I don’t know that the silence is a red flag of any kind, but comparing this game to palworld seems unjustified. We barely know anything about it, good or bad. It could flop, hit, or not flop or hit and just make its money.
@SimmerErin not impossible to flop but the sims has no competition and the market is hardly oversaturated so it's hard for it to fly under the radar
if it uses GenAI images, I am not playing it. No matter how hyped.
fair
Despite being relatively new, inZoi competes with established simulation games like Sims and GTA, which have been developing for over 10 years, showing its potential and promising future. However, every new game faces challenges, and inZoi is no exception. It's important to acknowledge the game's current flaws and keep improving to meet the expectations of its targeted audience. With determination and effort, inZoi can continue to grow and become a successful game in the market.
They showed their progress, and i believe in them since its in unreal engine 5. Like fans said , they should take their time and they will show when it feels like a full life simulation.
to be clear, I don't think it's a non existent game. It's a known studio. I am pretty sure it's coming out, just skeptical of the overall result, and details like monetization
I agree 💯 @@SimmerErin
as an artist, the use of AI makes me really wary. doesn't seem like a passion project, but something pushed out quickly just for profit
certainly, I don't see it as a passion project. Have you followed paralives at all?
@@SimmerErin i have, I know people are wary of it because of long it's been in development, but looking at their Patreon, they've been posting consistently to their patrons for years. To me paralives looks much more like something made by people who are fans of simulation games themselves, and honestly I really love the artstyle!
I feel like they've been pretty transparent with their development so far, but I guess we'll see when it comes out in early acess
@@apolloidk did you see their early access announcement and live mode reveal? I'd love to hear what you think
@@SimmerErin i did see it, loved it! i think it's good that they're doing their own thing with the systems. Looks very unique, I'm glad they're finding their own style
I've said it before, I'll say again, I will not play any games that use AI generative tech. It's just going to encourage other gaming companies to use it which doesn't guarantee quality, it's just ethically wrong in general, and will only put more people out of work in a industry that already drops their workers in mass on the fly.
And I would add, we should avoid games "translated" by AIs! People really need to start expecting quality again, and AI is not it.
- Signed, a video game translator with a real passion for her job
@@oceanegougeon3025 Correct.
wai they use AI!? hell nah! i'll be playing paralives instead.
@@ferchii13 yes, as I mention later in the video. I also made a video about it (pinned above). they had an interview they uploaded where they said they used AI scanning tech to generate visuals, then a 'coordinator' to refine them
I’m absolutely willing to jump on board with inZoi! Korea is known to build some of the most trustworthy vehicles, their tech capabilities are second to none! When this game hits the market the Sims are done with their ridiculous 1D optics (grass) after 20+ yrs. Even though everyone may be leary about the game right now, I’m fairly certain that will change because it’s time for a massive update in the world of simulation & the Sims just don’t cut it
I don't actually think it's zero sum. I think many games can exist at once.
I’m so over people trusting a pretty looking game. Any game developer can point out how you can make a game looks nice with the right money in the right places. That doesn’t mean your game is going to be worth anything else.
I totally get that people may love a certain style of graphics, no shame to that. but I also think healthy skepticism no matter how a game looks is wise
With limited information and updates with release date getting closer, it is quite concerning for Inzoi. I also want to point out that since this game is developed from South Korea, it may not follow the "usual" game release season like in North America, so it is pretty much anyone's guess when in 2024 Inzoi will be released.
The only worry for Inzoi is that when the game releases, it is not as in depth as it is all cracked up to be. The "race" of life simulation games is not as exciting as it is portrayed it seems lol. I do think we have to wait until June for Life by You to come out of the gate.
True, true! And I do know that it's possible that could be a factor. I figure that they still may tune into some of the norms though if they are purposefully marketing towards an American and European audience too- and it appears they may be, given the content creators they reach out to.
The demo to me did not express much depth, and I feel English Simmer summed that up fairly well., Of Course, not every game need to be very complex or have depth, but I do think that many may be expecting that
Micro-transactions.. A cancer for this industry. I won't play anything with micro-transactions, passes and similar any more. Not a cow to milk.
Watched this, watched the red flag video, and then came back here. I have zero faith in this thing. Inzoi feels like it’s trying to appeal to everyone. It’s got multiplayer, it’s got pets, it’s got weather, it’s got active careers, it’s got an open world, it’s got realistic graphics, it’s got all the big buzzwords that grab attention. It’s a blatant cash grab with no real substance.
thanks for watching all that! While I'd always love lots of features in a base, I'm really struggling to see how they even would pull this off in the time span. I feel the demos were worrying too.
I don't really care about Inzoi, not going to buy it anyway
but I hope those who does buy this game will have a fun experience unlike the sims 4
yes, it is not one I see myself investing in. I am interested, of course, to see or if it impacts the genre as a whole
@@SimmerErin only time will tell
It would be nice to have updates on this game but, there’s nothing. Will there be anything added to the early demo, that’s something I think we would like to know.
yes, I think this certainly would be helpful info. I expected some sort of blog or listing of info after the demo
Personally, I am not invested in Inzoi. While the realism is appreciated, the game fails to capture the whimsy/escapism (in terms of environment and art direction) that most life simulators and casual games provide. Additionally, I do notice that the character models and customization options seem to be heavily geared towards making Southeast Asian avatars with little room for other ethnic representation. I watched a few creators in early access who tried to make caucasian/white avatars of themselves, however even after adjusting settings the avatar appeared hapa (half or partially Asian) at best. I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this, because I do think this will be be frustrating for a diverse player base.
some fair points! and regarding the whimsy- that's honestly something I'm really keen to see to what degree different games will our won't have. an interesting conversation is the balance of realism, whimsy, etc- and what different players want
and I do agree that it is very much going to rep the region of its origin
I'm over the sims!!! Hello Inzio 👋 🎉❤
do what makes you happy
there probably just isn't much new they can or want to say.
I am most wowed by Inzoi's graphics but I will wait for reviews on RUclips before I buy. Most excited for Life By You because of Rob Humble and his background with the Sims. I'm even looking forward to Paralives. I have a 'Don't believe it till I see it' attitude about project Renee.
I've tried googling this topic but I can't find anything - do you think these life simulator games that are a direct competitor to The Sims is a result of a copy write law ending? It seems like we have al lot of choices for life sandbox games when before simulation games were restricted to a small subject matter or specific game play.
EA has no copyright to life simulation, it's a genre. Wes Craven made Nightmare on Elm Street and Scream. That fact doesn't prevent other slasher horror films from existing, as many do.
yeah I know a lot of people don't want to give LBY a try but I think Humble has a good vision for the gameplay of the gameplay as a whole
And nope, they don't have a hold on the entire genre. only thing sims can claim is features they have officially and legally filed as a patent
Free to play is an instant 🚩 for me. Free to exploit more like.
free to play and free to enter are slightly different, and I am not sure which this is
I know we're mostly talking about "Inzoi", but is "Life by You" out yet?
On the steam store page it says it isn’t gonna be released until Jun 4, 2024
early access is coming in June
@@no-dc4mn for early access, not full release
@@SimmerErin ya early access forgot to mention that. But I’m very excited!
i CANT wait for this game i hate the goofiness and graphics of the sims 4
hope you end up enjoying it
I was thinking they like to keep things quiet, but then remembered this game was announced in the form of a demo, then nothing which definitely looks like a red flag rather than waiting to show the final product in maybe 6 months.
I see two races happening; who's going to cause EA to terminate the Sims franchise? And who's going to take Sims' place? People are in a hurry to hear release dates to guess when is the Sims death date. I'm already seeing people say Sims might make it to the 25th anniversary but not the 26th because of LbU and Paralives beta dates. Even though Paralives is just saying next year.
yeah, the main concern for me is that there;'s been a demo and statement about a 2024 release for a few times. I thought after the demo they'd have some more info about the main features of the game
Personally, I do not think sims will cease to exist- but I do think if it does, it will be more out of design choices as opposed to one direct competitor
I believe all games, but especially indy and smaller games, should adopt the Baldur's Gate 3 release style- lengthy open beta working towards a quality paid full release, rather than a shovelware cash grab.
certainly, it would be ideal for games to take more care and a longer time to launch with feedback
For me it looks like a smoothing relaxing game if you just want to relax and have a sip of tea while the person you controlling are also having a sip of tea their is some qurkiyness in the game when i saw two guys in the background waving like having a laugh with each other it reminds me of some of my characters i hope this game can improve and add things to it like you see on Sims 4 Zoi is those games i would play on for relaxing and having a sip of Coffee
I’m so wary of this because with AI, it would be so easy to fake a working demo of a game like this. Just something about the footage seems suspect to me versus Paralives or Life By You.
I do trust one of the content creators that covered it, but she was honestly fairly critical saying that the gameplay was pretty limited
@@SimmerErin Sorry, I meant to say footage not demo. Because it seems like it’s showing in these videos a lot more than the game could currently do.
I'm with you. I can't say that I'm at all interested in Inzoi and I don't plan on getting it when it comes out. There are just way too many red flags. I'm also fairly certain that it's going to be horribly optimized and require a very strong computer. Game companies sending people fancy computers to try out their game with is a huge red flag. That means it probably doesn't run that well on lower-end computers, and they don't want to risk that being shown in any of the videos. As soon as the people with early access started mentioning that they were sent a computer, I had a bad feeling about Inzoi.
Also, I'm pretty sure the whole 'AI texture' thing uses AI art generation, which i refuse to support. So even if it somehow did defy my expectations and end up being a good game, I still wouldn't buy it.
based upon the computers they sent infliuencers and to be fair just the nature of the graphics and an open world, I think it would be fair to assume a higher end device may be needed yes
wonderful video friend
From what I've seen so far, I'm not sure inZOI is going to be all the realistic, unless a lot changes before release (which could happen).
how so- and when I was saying realistic, I m merely was discussing mostly graphics here
@@SimmerErin I don't remember all the details, but it was from seeing a video from someone who was given an demo copy of the in development video -- it seems like some of the ways relationships and pregnancy came across as no that believable, well similar to some complaints about Sims 4 but more so. Yeah, I suppose you meant realistic graphics, though I usually use "realistic" to describe gameplay (specifically simulation) unless stated as specifically stated as "realistic graphics" so that was my knee-jerk reaction.
honestly I'm still really excited about this game!!
I don't really understand why so many people think it's necessarily too good to be true, we already have amazing games with great graphics on the market just not yet in the life simulator genre, because EA where the only one to do this exact type of game
I don't expect the game to be perfect either and I don't like microtransactions but let's just hope this one does better than The Sims
Just some healthy skepticism. always hope for the best!
Thanks Erin. 😃👍
welcome!
I think this has to do with the korean culture. Reputation is everything for them so they won't say anything without thinking first
Inzoi is just not launching this year. There has been zero marketing around it, all we know about it is that the graphics look good.
We just have no information on any of the features, mechanics, or monetisation, we're all just speculating at this point. If the game was gonna launch this year we would've already seen at least a couple trailers & heard about some of the game's main features.
So no, it won't be out this year, I'm not sure where that 2024 date comes from, but I don't even think it'll be out next year unless we start seeing some trailers & presentations this year.
Thankfully LBY & Paralives are getting their stuff out there.
I'd think it would be more realistic to launch this year, but the company this January is claiming it will shrug
The 2024 date comes from their official website. Late 2024 is the claim.
You made solid points. Out of all life simulators announced, this one is the least promising. Still, all this buzz is intriguing and entertaining.
certainly, regardless I think it's important to watch some because of its potential impact
big shame it looks cool but idk if i wanna play it if it's using ai stuff.
I'm honestly a little excited to see this part of the western gaming world learn first-hand how disappointing Korean gaming/game development really is. The Sims community has been absolutely spoiled with inclusivity/communication and Inzoi will never even crack the surface of it.
certainly, there may be some differences as to what content is included due to where the studio is located.
Honestly wish we had more info on inzoi because im really excited about it compared to the others because it seems more complete.
I think regardless it would be good for them to provide details about main gameplay features etc for consumers as they have already had a demo
I can’t even find a Wikipedia page on this game.
Krafton is a well known Korean studio. the info on this game in particular however is lacking
I don’t think being the first to launch matters much, but not being the last to launch might. This is especially true if some of these games launch the base game for free. I expect the majority of the market will ve divided between 2-3 of these games. While visuals matter, creating engaging gameplay will likely be the key to success since it’ll keep the players with the game for longer, making more purchases. One thing that could impact the sales in unexpected ways is the modding community. If one of these games manages to capture the interest of great modders early on and supports them, this could give them advantage over others. This is also why I emphasized developing gameplay over visuals, as modders more often improve the visuals, with less the gameplay (understandably). With many games entering the market in so short time frame from each other, public image, creating a buzz, matters a lot. This might put Inzoi in a disadvantage given that the other games have been promoting their game for a longer time. It’ll be interesting to see though if it might e.g. gain a lot of success in some market areas or if it might bring people to the genre who have not played it before. This is something that I could see happening with Inzoi due to its visuals.
a thoughtful and nuanced comment. As more modding- I have heard inzoi is considering not allowing cc. if this is ultimately true this too could end up playing a role
@@SimmerErinIf Inzoi would disallow cc, and others allow, it could definitely hurt them. I feel modding has been an ever present feature of The Sims franchise since the first game in the series to the point that I wonder if it has become a genre expectation. I think this is partly because there is a desire amongst the players to create something very specific (e.g. celebrities, people they know or people with really specific charasteristics), and partly because the masses of modders can provide things quicker than the developers themselves can, especially if the modding community is large and skillful. Ofc, banning cc would force the players to buy additional content from the developers themselves, so I understand if that’s the goal with it. But, I think it might hurt them more than help, especially if cc is allowed in the othwr games.
nice video, inzoi looked really cool 3 months ago but at a baseline its just sims 4 on unreal engine and there's probably gonna be battlepass and microtransactions so i'd be surprised if the game gets a lot of traction
we'll see ! I do think microtransactions are possible. I do actually hope to be wrong. I have a lot of reservations and always at the same time want things to turn out better than I think
Watching their most recent interview, I don’t think that’ll be a big problem. They use the phrase “base game” and from what they’ve shown using microtransactions would be pointless but very optional. Personally I don’t think I’d need them. Idk for sure Ofc but I don’t think that’ll be a big worry. I reckon they’ll go down a dlc path
No way is the game ready to release by the end of this year. Based on the demo stream i saw, the game is missing many basic features and is filled with bugs. More importantly, they have only been developing it for a year. The sims and other games like paralives and lifebyyou took years to develop just the base games.
right that's a concern for me too. it doesn't make sense to release it this quickly
They just released a 2 part interview
Oh excellent! Is it on their RUclips channel? I very much appreciate you letting me know!💕
This is all starting to look like "The Day Before" all over again, also that footage looks more like a mobile game ad than an actual game. Did you say someone actually played this? I'm having doubts it exists... we've seen so many scams in the game industry lately, I feel like the game that footage is from doesn't exist and what finally releases at the end of 2024 will be a far smaller and different game.
We've seen several Sims RUclipsrs play that game
yes, they sent out a live mode early access to several content creators, so we know it can be played, but also has right now a lot of limitations. I recommend English Simmer's review.
The graphics of the game do seem really pretty and well done, however realstic graphics are not really what i look for in games. But if this game does release it will mostly like appeal the most to alpha cc players, and honestly having the sims community start splitting I think would be a good thing. Having more life sims does not only create compition and allows people to better choose a game that could work for them.
I always used a mix of cc (alpha and maxis) so it;'s plausible it may appeal to people of that kind and also those who simply don't have a high preference- given they like other aspects and have the computer to run it.
while I am not keen on this project, I certainly think more options in the genre may be of great benefit for us/ players and even hey the sims
If I'm being honest, I don't really have any interest in Inzoi. Sure it look great but i think what makes the sims so different since the sims 1 is its whimsical nature. Bonehilda, Agnes Crumplebottom, the grilled cheese aspiration, quirky things like that makes the game fun. I feel like Inzoi is going for a realistic approach and kinda lacks identity.
a fair point, I do suspect it's not going to be very whimsical
Like you, I think that the release date is way too ambitious unless they've been working on this in secret for longer than they have been letting on. Also, while I realize that this is a Korean company, everything is too "K-Pop" for my taste. This concerns me in that it might not go over too well in the U.S. Additionally, I am worried that this game is "too good to be true" in the way that Alterlife was.
they claimed to have only been working on it since 2023, which seems off
I believe that the one that engages players is going to "win out" but I also hope that people choose to play more than one over time (similar to how people play both Stardew Valley and Animal Crossing). As for me, I'm not going to buy a new computer to play any of them. I suspect I'll stick with TS4 because it already has so much content, as I dislike starting over, and because I can't afford to upgrade my computer or my internet. (I doubt that they could upgrade my internet enough if any of them are "cloud-based." I live in a semi-rural area and they are not really doing much to upgrade the connections around here.)
Until you made this video, I had forgotten about Inzoi! Project Rene, Paralives, and Life By You are getting "all the buzz" from many sources, including from information they are putting out. I see none of that from Inzoi. (I wonder if the Koreans are getting more info.)
yeah, I think maybe some of these games may not pan out, but ancticipate that there will be a few games, and people will gravitate towards diff ones for diff reasons
Oh boy mods for this game are gonna go ,, crazy.
I have heard it is possible they won't permit mods
i would try out inzoi. It honestly depends on how grubby the micro transactions are, and if they allow cc to be created along side their micro transactions making them a bit more consumer friendly. I am curious what kind of rig set up I will need for Inzoi though. I am a gamer so my rig is always at least in the mid/upper mid area, but the previews are extremely impressive, most of the games I play my pc doesn't struggle with at all on high-ultra settings but I kind of worry with Inzoi lol.
yes, I am really just in the dark, I'm afraid, about any of their policies- including cc and monetization
I'm thing Fall of this year.
it's certainly possible. my guess is very late fall
@@SimmerErin I"ll probably wind up waiting for it to come to the PS5.
The fact that they had to send creators pcs just to play the game cause it needs expensive computers to run it, isn’t too good. And the baby life stage isn’t good either, I remember watching a review for it and the person making the video said there’s only like one interaction with the baby, and the newborns look huge, plus you can just leave them home alone and nothing bad happens and they can’t be taken away cause their needs don’t go down.
i still prefer the Sims iv played Sims 2 for so long now and 3 Life by you is the one i look forward too
Nothing about this game so far has made me think I need this the gameplay looks so shallow. I really did not like the character creator no diversity no matter what you do the characters look Korean I really don't see the appeal outside of Korea unless they add in more character models and even if they did where the gameplay.
the sims is certainly imperfect, but is, on average, a lot more diverse in its representation than I'd hazard majority of games out there
I do not have any hopes for this game, even though it has the beautiful graphics that Simmers usually crave.
Because Life by You is looking really rough in that aspect... looking worse than Sims 3 2009 pudding face.
life by you is from paradox. Paradox is usually enjoyed game wise much more so for gameplay than graphics.
I remember a few weeks ago i was looking for more information and i only found promo😂
yeah, I keep checking too
no steam page yet?
couldn't find one
Inzoi is beautiful but tbh i'm more into paralives.
me too, certainly
Imagine wicked whims for this lmao 💀
it sounds like the team may actually not permit cc
I will probably play it.....but if it's not on Steam then I won't 😂 so far nothing about it on Steam
yeah, I'm not sure, I'd think it will probably be on steam
Every time you say “Project Rene” I keep thinking about Beyoncé’s Reneigh 🐴
hah nice
I doubt the game will come out well. And I wonder how overworked their employees are
I think it will come out given it's an established studio - I do worry about working conditions
It looks nice, but my computer wont run it and micro transactions are a no from me. Already got sucked in by the sims 4, not falling for that again 😂
sims 4 doesn't have microtransactions
@@SimmerErin OK, maybe not micro transactions, but it's still a money pit.
Screw microtransactions
alas, they are here to stay in the industry unless something dramatically changes
inzoi is empty as of now so not much to talk about BUT their strategy is not the same as paralives of LIB where they want to do frequent updates. They will probably release a final demo and drop the game
I honestly don't much at all about their strategy, so I can't say. But I am certainly myself much more keen on both paralives and life by you
For me Inzoi is getting a little bit toooo close to thet uncanny valley feeling.
And well let's be honest here, with that super realistic graphic, some modders at a certain uh, "lab" are gonna make "those kinds" of mods for Inzoi faster than you can say "sims 4 anniversary hot tub is a travesty to mankind" three times over.
They already did the same thing with Sims 4, and now with this things are going to be wild.
yeah I stay away from all that ha. But yes, I can understand how too realistic graphics can be not appealing to some.
however, it actually sounds like it's possible that cc will not be allowed- cannot find a confirmation yet
I'm really excited for Paralives but, if I'm being honest, I have no interest in inZOI, Life by You or Vivaland because they all just look like copies of The Sims except with different graphics and made by different companies. Even Little Sim World and Tiny Life (although they have a completely different art style from the rest) caught my attention more, as they bring new things to the genre.
interesting, I don't think personally they all look like copies so much as they are simply in the same genre
I'm excited for the Sparkling Sims 4 trailer tomorrow. I think its probably the stuff pack. (I'm just ignoring the topic of the video if you didn't notice lol) I think the Stuff pack will release the 29th or March 5th going by the next patch date from the Laundry list.
I think it's the sp too- I saw some think it was the kit, but I really think it must be the sp. I always forget the lead time (I guess it varies) but considering the patch date, this seems reasonable . do you think it's jewelry making?
@@SimmerErin yes (after the trailer released lol)
I am thinking about two things. have they realy had time to playtest this and the danger of ultra realistic graphics. is that if it´s a little bit of. then the characters are going to be scary.
we know they sent out early access demos, but beyond that and the one short interview with the devs, I honestly feel we don't have lots of info