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You described Sentinels Roster so well, like "They got Sacy and Pancada, THEY GOT TENZ, Zekken is insane... and Deph is an IGL 💀"
i noticed that lmaooo
💀
It's probably hard to tell cuz there's very few of their games to actually tell how good they are
perfectly summarized sen lol
Why doesn't deph hit a single shot?
They may be picking up Marved, I say switch Dephh to assistant coach or drop him. Marved on Sentinel. Sacy IGL and you've got an S Tier team.
Honestly would have loved to hear the full cloud9 rant
watch the vod
@@DualityofLife from when? Yesterday?
Edit : yes, it was actually from yesterday's stream
@@DualityofLife can't. I live in Korea and twitch vods are non existent
@@philhanhwang9181 get nord vpn and your problems will be solved
Yeah me too 🤣🤣
Deph is definitely one of the IGLs in valorant
😭😂
deph-initley
Nahhh 💀
I just started playing Valorant a couple weeks ago which team should i root for
@@DonovanGG__ fnatic is a good start
You can disagree with his tier list but this is the right one
when he said "If you disagree, I don't care" brooo i burst out laughing
sentinels got SACY and PANCADA! and EVEN TENZ??!?!? zekkenn is crazy...... ..... ..... oh yea deph, he's an igl.
please upload the entire c9 rant😂
You can watch the vod on twitch
Sen feels so weird right now. We have three Champions (Tenz - Reykjavic 2021 MVP; Sacy and Pancada - Champions 2022) and two Quarter-Finalists (Zekken and Dephh - Champions 2022). They have the skill to definitely be High A-Tier maybe Low S-Tier but doesn't seem to have the practice to back that up.
They are one of the few teams that don’t have a core which is like starting at 0, their showing against fnatic was not bad, with time they will only get better and with Sacy and deph who have brought teams from nothing to respectable teams in the scene there is no doubt they won’t find success with time
their chemistry looked terrible. Hope they can clean it up
@@TheNameIsXpo they enjoy being around each other outside of the game so I’m sure they’ll be fine with time easily see them being the second best NA team and 3rd in the Americas
@@reuwlane9867 I agree, I’m just hoping they don’t try to do too much. Keep pancada on controller and especially astra on split. I’m obviously not a pro but I feel like right now they should focus on comfort picks and just trying to get the team to mesh together, then focus on the crazy comps later on down the road. Maybe I’m just overthinking it, but I truly think it would be better for them in the long run
@@TheNameIsXpo yea I trust that they won’t troll dephh and the coaching staff made an unknown xset team the second best NA team that beat optic, fnatic, and took Fpx to a tough 3 maps I can’t imagine what they can do with this roster
I love how Team Secret is stuck in a perpetual loop of getting underestimated then overestimated. Anyone closely following APAC knows they're very shaky when matched against other APAC teams.
I actually think theyll be consistent this year cuz of coach warbirds
Not anymore I'd say
Not anymore I'd say
We will see in VCT Pacific
TS top b tier is properly rated and i am a TS fan lol
The c9 rant being fast forwarded was freaking hilarious lmao, can you post it tho
Gotta agree with this tier list. Naughty corner is a well deserved place for those teams! A little disappointing they performed as they did. Although I’m always gonna be rooting for my APAC boys, I agree with their placements 😂 great list, and hopefully DRX wins Masters 👍
being paper boy myself, i agree to put paper rex in B tier after lock in. people might say that they're just trolling but after those performance, it's hard to defend them
most humble fan 👑
bit harsh imo. theyre still a strong contender for tokyo in pacific. I’d say like below sen
@@sommerkleid idk bro...imo its drx,geng,talon/secret for top 3...if prx dont make any changes in gameplay
agreed, most fanbases are afraid to criticize their performance and keep defending them with the status of runner-up masters. They barely showed any improvement since champions
Yea even i agree
In champs they seemed bad and in lockin too
They aren't gonna troll in a international tournament and if anyone says it it's copium
Watching TMV brings u up a tier because then we atleast know you are serious about improving 😂😂😂
Probably the best tier list that has been pulled out yet. I agree with each and every pick but I think Vitality is not that great as KOI , so maybe if they switch positions, we could have got an ideal tier list. What do u think TMV ? Is Vitality better than KOI ?
Yea i agree KOI almost beat best na and vit lose map to ge
if Twisten keeps performing like this, he can carry them
People got caught up in the “omg KOI saving all the time they’re so bad”. Like, saving is just a simple decision that’s made in a low stakes part of the round that they can choose to make less. Very easy fix.
Saving too much is a much preferable flaw to most other teams’ flaws like overheating and such
Apart from Vitality's rank, I agree with this list.
Also, I double dare you to post that C9 rant.
Very solid tier list
I agree with everything except I'd switch out Vitality and KOI.
i feel like paper rex are gonna get stomped again in the future if they don't make a huge adjustment with how they play or the roster. i love them but i think they've been stucked at masters 2 and still don't get humbled afterwards. at this point, they'll be sentinels 2.0
TMVs Tokyo prediction:
EMEA: FNC, NAVI, VIT + KOI
AMERICAS: LOUD, NRG, LEV
PACIFIC: DRX, TLN, TS
My Tokyo prediction:
EMEA: FNC, NAVI, TL + VIT
AMERICAS: LOUD, LEV, NRG
PACIFIC: DRX, PRX, TLN
feel free to share yours c:
I think there's a chance prx not qualify
They either gonna bounce back hard or don't qualify
Their gameplay and strats is like u either win or go out first
i think drx tln and between geng prx and ts
But i am big talon fan now also caus garnet
@@prxtryhard9683 I like how your name is PRX but somehow u like Talon more. Most humble fan ever
@@prxtryhard9683 I agree, I think DRX are in for sure and then I think PRX TLN and TS are the biggest contenders for the other 2
@@TheLastQuazar Thinking who to support in prx don't qualify 😂
Oof talon just lost to ts 2-1 and a stomp on both map 1 and 3. So i think itll be drx prx and ts according to show
Hi TMV, I noticed that FPX and EDG weren't in the tier list which makes sense. But since they played in the tournament, what was your opinion of them?
List makes sense. I mean sure you could argue if NRG should be bottom of S or top of A but the arguable things are just minor details.
keznit made a racist joke about dgzinnn from furia a while ago and riot responded by giving him the incredibly hard punishment of: a ban from one VCT match. and and that was it.
Agent meta list next fs
Yk it hurts when your favourite teams are Liquid and PRX. Both expected low S-mid A teams but instead they just trolled
So zeta changing igls is a "try to know every playstyles so you can understand each other more" thing. I think the head coach of zeta talked about it in a live stream or what not and getting to know other peoples styles when you're trying to make a better team is a crucial factor so I'll put them in tier B. Otherwise, all the others are probably gonna be right
Zeta have been completely trolling since Masters Reykjavik ngl,they did look decent at Champs but against Leviatan they didn't look good at all
I don't see them being above C rn
@@king_thanos_2116 If you truly think that that they’re trolling then what about pearl? I honestly thought it was bad at first but when you put in the factor that sugarzero was igling and that their against lev which became considerably one of the favorites for lock in, it doesn’t really look that bad at all. Yeah drx and talon are good but there is more than a chance that zeta can be a threat
Maybe they trying to go for the approach whereby, certain player igl on their best maps???
Problem is they had 1 year. 1 year with the same roster.
Even if they got bad draws like in champs against loud or here in lock in against Lev. They had 10 to 11 months of scrimming, setting up their strats/ going to tournaments/ reviewing vods having meetings and more with the same roster and i believe same coach, to find who is igl'ing who's playing smokes. Whatever. You get the point. I bet they went through a process of a lot of things, even trying out every member igl'ing on pracs. Yet still their performance was disappointing not even 1 map won. So yeah C tier very well deserved. I don't even see them making it to masters which it's gonna be sad considering they are the "host" team.
The C9 rant could be it's own video, it was very entertaining to watch on stream
I love the * c9 rant continues for many minutes* part
Would be nice if there are timestamps for each team
I think C9 gambled on winning LockIn then signing new sponsors which could pay yay...
Yeah the point of franchising was to have orgs that are financially stable in tier 1 but I don't think c9 checks that box
C9 probably didn't want to go against yay 💀
I just that generally, any team that hasnt got an established core carried over from pre-partnership is hard to nail down on a tier list. New maps, team dynamics, anti-stratting and all that good stuff is throwing everything in the air. Itll be more obvious after the first leg of the league.
GE played pretty well considering they played with a sub and without one of their best players (wronski)
honestly id like to watch the c9 rant
Liquid and KC will come back stronger for sure, maybe like switch out XMS, or if he has some TenZ level awakening (when TenZ switched from C9 to SEN), he could work, but yeah, these teams have good potential, would love to see them do good in the EMEA league
I can already feel people calling me out for just liking the old TL too much, and I do
No player would get to the level of stats TenZ put up in reykjavik. The game is different now
I was watching at 11-3, was nearly about to just go and do something else. I had a feeling to stay, I did and watched fnatic do the impossible
Mannnn I wanna hear the full rant lmao
the thing with talon, patiphan wasn’t available too
You should post the C9 rant somewhere, i wanna hear it.
Wait, was RRQ's coach really on stream?
Edit: As a Zeta fan, yeah. They do deserve a Top C. Kinda iffy about TS placement, though. I'd expect them to be in the naughty club. But I'd place them somewhere in B anyway so I guess that's good.
For me 100t will be B tier personally
As a 100t fan I agree
At least bottom of A
14:55 and deph (Why doesn't depth hit a single shot)
Have we made a video on why Reyna is so good in ranked but never picked in Pro play?
I love how most RUclipsrs go "if you disagree, let me know in the comments" but you just say "idgaf" 😂😂
Where would you put EDG mr streamer? personally I wouldn't put them lower than mid B
c9 d tier is looking crazy now lmao
GENG deserves A tier bro.
They are on level w Talon
Only 2 changes I'd make is Talon a lil higher A tier and (although I understand your reasoning) Paper Rex either Top B or Bottom A. You could tell PRX didn't take themselves too seriously and probably just wanted to see there future matchups without giving away too many crazy strats. Talon was a solid darkhorse that showed they weren't messing around.
I'm a PRX fan and even I think this is unhealthy levels of copium
what about EDG and FPX? For EDG imo is low A top B, they could have won 100T, it's pretty close; and for FPX, I think is prob like low B or top C.
They are not franchised teams they were chinese teams which received invitation. Might not see them in Tokyo
@@pulkitgupta5550 2 Chinese teams already confirmed for Tokyo, and the two at Lock In have been the best in the Chinese scene by far, so honestly, I expect them both to make a repeat appearance.
EDG is actually mid A for me, you can see how much they improved since their last international appearance. They just need to discipline kk to stop throwing a bit more then I really think they have the potential to be a top contender. FPX goes in like mid C tho..
@abrn FPX definetely isn't the best in the Chinese scene by far, they have always been VERY lackluster with terrible stats. EDG lost to them in the finals of FGC, but if you compare that match to them against 100T, its clear they were saving strats. KONE is the second best chinese team, and has been consistently good - they announced they were going inactive for some time though, so they didn't compete at FGC.
@@pulkitgupta5550 China is pretty much the 4th region now, just think of it that way. Given league's success in China, RIOT has a lot of influence and believes val has huge potential in China - you'll see them a lot from now on.
Pls post the c9 rant😂
I want to see the full C9 rant
15:07 now they have marved that is a crazy roster
The c9 rant was so funny 😂😂
Where would you put EDG and FPX tho? Personally I think EDG is a bottom A tier team, they just need to fix some of their discipline
How can vitality be above Talon
Upload the rant as a short
I think the loud honey moon will be over in some time I would put them bottom S
Going to twitch vod so that i can get complete rsnt
DRX going to return stronger
They say that after every tournament
@@zammy7155and they do
@@zammy7155 and tbf they do return stronger. They're improving but not fast.
@@zammy7155 They lost 2-3 to LOUD when LOUD is expected to have a 3-0 domination. DRX literally on par with NRG, LOUD kinda struggled to win against DRX and NRG
They did strong , 3-4th in the world and lose to 2nf best team not anything bad or to be embarrassed
I honestly want to hear the C9 rant
rant channel soon?
I wish you would’ve “predicted” more with this list like you said you were going to do rather than base off how these teams looked at lock in. Felt like you were going back and forth…lock in should be used as a baseline, but don’t you think teams like Liquid, Sen, Karmine, etc should indeed improve and close that gap with teams like Talon and Furia? Just my thoughts
I would only change
Heretics D
100T bottom A
Full c9 rant when
2:15 now take into consideration that Heretics just changed their IGL and Zeek will be IGLing during the league, soo they bombed themselves
personally i think the lev vs zeta match was really impressive from both teams in terms of aim, teamplay, everything and that zeta should be bottom of A
Lmao
I wanted to hear the c9 rant! :(
i would like to see the c9 rent
U forgot the Chinese teams tho
Damn, Koi actually managed to beat a S tier team today!
TMV is secretly a Sentinels fan, but it's fine because I am too
he cut out his own rant
Why no EDG on this list? Am I blind or misunderstanding?
People are sleeping on my boy Dephh trust (I hope)
Lol i thought this a video from Lockpick Lawyer
100t bang preformed well no?
Noooo i wanted to hear the rant!
tbf to ge they where missing one of their players
C9 rant in separate video incoming?
why is ascend not here
I need to hear the c9 rant. I am so mad at them
6:09 this is gotta be a meme
Damn I missed something if C9 is the worst team at lock in
Let's go NaVi
C9 spent all their money on the roster reveal video
where’s EDG and FPX
I really want to hear the C9 rant in full lmao
Fpx and edg?
the c9 rant lol
furia is easily above 100t
You can't decide if they don't play against each other
Even if a team gets more rounds doesn't mean they are better but i certainly hope firia is better
Edg and Fpx
Post full rant please 🤣🤣🤣
What about edg?
Why fast-forward the C9 rant man, would've loved to hear it tbh
where can i hear the c9 rant?
On Twitch
I disagree with the geng pick because you said you rank them by you think they make it to Tokio and geng got many weak teams in their League and got a pretty damn good shot to make it when paper Rex will continue to struggle
being a sentinel fan is like being a raider fan, its always something hahahaha
"(DFM) at least aren't trollin" yeah they just forgot they needed an actual smokes player
Release the c9 rant for the people
fpx / edg??
bro fnatic just should not be losing to anyone besides LoUD
sentinel main problem is the igl suck
yeaaa if prx keep playing like they played c9 they deserved lower b, as a prx fan i wanna se them dominate like they did in copenhagen
I think 100T played worse than they usually do, especially considering what we've seen from them in red bull homegrounds etc. maybe just bad tourney? i hope so
imo fnc>navi>nrg>loud
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