Classical Composer Reacts to Don't Give Up (Peter Gabriel, feat. Kate Bush) | The Daily Doug Ep. 424
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In this episode of #thedailydoug, I'm sharing a reaction that I filmed back in February, featuring Don't Give Up by Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush. This was towards the end of my long Fan Favorites video, and the song's message sparked some thoughtful words as I concluded the reaction. I'm thankful for all of you, and I hope you enjoy the video.
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This Song has a very special meaning for me. When in 1999 my Mother was hospitalized for treatment of advanced cancer, my older brother (i was 17, he was 22) made a music cassette for her to listen to. And this was the first song on the cassette. She lost her battle but did never "give up" and is not forgotten.
Thanks for sharing. Compilation tapes were such a great gift to give back in the day. Had a bunch of them myself, and for sure this song was on one of them. :)
@@NAVITS dude who hurt you?
@@abdurrahmanzulfikry9202 Sorry to even respond to someone so out of touch with his humanity. Selfish ego on clear display!
(yet he has no idea)
similar here. My first wife was diagnosed with a rare cancer in 1987; the So album was already "in heavy rotation" in our home, but this song soon took on new meaning for her as she drew inspiration from the optimism in the lyrics Kate sang. Unfortunately, she too lost her battle, but lives on in my memories -- and this song is part of that piece of my world.
ohhh this is a great song. The entire "So" album is a masterpiece.
Nobody else thought Peter wrote this so he could hug Kate Bush for 3 minutes? No? Just me then. Seriously, this is a stunning song
If anything, he wrote it to hug Dolly Parton for several minutes... cuz she was the original choice for the duet
While "Tony Levin of King Crimson" is technically true, at least in their later forms, it rather understates Tony's reach and influence. In particular, he is the bassist for all of Peter's solo work, in the studio or live. He is also a session artist appearing on more than 500 albums, including Lennon's Double Fantasy, Pink Floyd, David Bowie, Paul Simon and many others. He is also one of the founding members of Liquid Tension Experiment. Very imposing figure, and all around nice guy. He probably don't want or need a whole lot more recognition, but he certainly deserves it.
and dont forget Tony Levin plays with YES when Chris Squire out, in 1989: Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe... Tony was the bass!! My favourite bassist and the Best of the World!!
@Gerald H Nah, the only true master of the Chapman Stick was Greg Howard. Tony could play one pretty good though.
@Gerald H I know. I'm just plugging a guy who didn't get near enough love for how fucking good he was at that instrument. He's on YT, and worth investigating, though the content is somewhat limited in scope. Last I heard he gave up music entirely and went into another career path.
@@twelveeighteenofficial7487 A lot of true "Stick Masters" out there, including Emmet Chapman the inventor (RIP). Basically folks who can use The Stick like a piano. Tony is NOT one of them , but he does use the it to great musical effect in his own way.
@@attichatchsound-bobkowal5328 Note, I did specifically say he was good at playing it. I just disputed whether he qualified as a "master" of it, because I've heard him play it, and I've heard other people who play it as it was intended to be played and at a virtuosic level, and there's a chasm of difference.
It’s one of the best two people to do a duet . Love this song
The live performance with Paula Cole is also wonderful. I love her voice, so powerful.
Yeah I think it packs quite a bit more punch. Paula is part of the perfect pitch club and the Secret World tour was kind of her first big gig.
Her first album is great, bit of cheese in places but cheese can be really tasty with the right bread, now I'm hungry.
She took her talent in a direction that isn't compatible with my tastes but that's fine. I did like that first album. I think her work with Peter is her best.
I like it even better.
Kate is such a perfect choice for this duet - she emotes so perfectly through music; a total performer who can inject drama into beautiful vocals.
I love Kate Bush. And I agree she does her usual amazing job on this song. But Gabriel has performed this song live with a few other singers (at least in part because Bush practically never tours). Most do a decent job. But anyone who really loves this song, should definitely check out Paula Cole's performance with Gabriel live.
I wouldn't have thought it possible, but if anything I think Cole may do the song even more justice than Bush does. Her timing, with just a hint of swing at just the right moments, and of course her **voice**, are just as amazing as Bush's performance.
Her voice is fabulous- it’s a shame he talked over her.
Massive Kate Bush fan here, and obviously right now so much focus is on her. But just to say, Peter's voice is astonishing in this song. So emotional and raw and powerful.
The bass used was Tony Levin's Musicman bass (I believe it was a 5 string.) The the odd bass tone is due to Tony's using disposable diapers as a mute, which he called "Super Wonder Nappy Bass" sound.
Thanks that's very interesting, I always thought he was using his Chapman stick bass for this sound, because he uses it live when playing the song..
The 5 string Musicman bass was not available when this album was recorded. Levin used a four-string bass and an octaver to get the deep bass sound. On some of the tracks, he even had pieces of drumsticks taped to the fingers to create a special hammering effect.
This song literally saved my life when I was in college. Going thru women/relationship problems, and had too much to drink, I drove my car as fast as I could down a sharply winding road at reckless speed along a river, daring/trying to miss every curve and plunge into "that river flowing", which ironically I didn't realize until recently was in these lyrics. Well luckily when I reached the end of the road and was determined to try it again even faster, going back the other way, this song came on the radio and brought me back to reality and a calmness just came over me, and I learned to not react so dramatically to things which were out of my control. Unfortunately just recently, be it 30 yrs later, those feelings have resurfaced, and most of the old friend/support group has moved on, and idk if this song will be of as much help this time around.
What a precious recording, the entire record. The ideas, the sonics, the tones, the expressiveness - Peter Gabriel is a musical gift from another plane.
This is one of Peter Gabriel's best vocal performances, for sure. Kate is often tagged as "quirky" and is usually placed into the "art pop" category. But she takes risks at times that often place her closer to people like Laurie Anderson or David Byrne. She and Gabriel make a good team because they have very similar artistic temperaments. She can be an acquired taste, but patience will pay off. That melodic bass instrument is -- wait for it: a bass. 😁
So you really need to check out 10cc in the years when Godley and Creme were part of the band (they went off very successfully to make videos in the growing MTV market). I would suggest ‘One night in Paris (all parts) from the album ‘The original soundtrack’ for something to get your teeth into (NB this was released BEFORE Bohemian Rhapsody you will see the connection) alternatively you could go for the more obvious choice of ‘I’m not in love’ from the same album which was quite literally a music industry changing track.
I came in to say exactly the same monkey, I was surprised to hear you say Doug that you don't know 10cc. There are 3 absolutely terrific albums for you to get your teeth into, Sheet Music, Original Soundtrack and How Dare You? I agree that One Night In Paris has to be heard, in full, with the volume up and a glass of absinthe...
Double thumbs up!!! soo underrated
And in extension of the So(ber) Don’t give up… Cry by Godley and Crème & video
@@ejasuykerbuyk and for a laugh ‘Snack attack’ is always worth a listen!
I’m Mandy, Fly Me.
I have always "shipped" Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush. They are artists who are so akin to one another.
Also, 10CC, you have to explore 10CC. They are just so great. My favorite happens to be How Dare You. They are are clever, witty songwriters and such good musicians and did some great things with musical engineering.
Exactly! Just skip their debut album (come back to it later) and listen to the three (maybe four) albums that followed.
Forget about their 80's albums.
@@peewee678 Stick to the Godley and Creme era in fact.
I’m Mandy, Fly Me
Agreed, it's rare to get four supremely talented musicians in one band. Godley & Creme actually directed the Don't Give Up music video, they had many strings to their bow!
And then you find half of the band on her first album 🙂
A classic. This has helped so many people during crises. Very moving, very powerful and very life-affirming.
10cc, great band of the 70s!! Check out 'I'm Not in Love' and 'Wall Street Shuffle'. Another big hit is 'Dreadlock Holiday'!
Or Godley & Creme - 'Under Your Thumb' ...
@@TheVirtualWatcher Another Godley and Creme classic is: Cry!
The engineering of "I'm not in love" is so fantastic. I love How Dare You the best. But 10CC is all good.
What makes it such a great song is that we all have in some form felt the cry of dispair and helplessness that Gabriel projects in this song. Even if you don't feel you have that conforter in your life you have it in the voice of Kate Bush in this song encouraging to not give up.. And as it's been pointed out, it's not about any specific situation so everyone can relate to it in some way. Love the bass in this as well.
Doug - This truly is a gorgeous song. I've known it since the release of So and appreciate you featuring it on your channel. Tony's playing on here is fantastic! I love the vocals at the end; which are more prominent in the live versions. I like that the song is both heart wrenching and inspirational in a tug-of-war fashion. Honestly, I think Kate's vocals are better suited than Dolly's would have been.
Oh, and if you're looking for a Kate Bush song to try I recommend "Man with the Child in his Eyes".
Such a beautiful and haunting track.
And written when she was 13 years old...
So many possible choices. Her catalog is filled with great songs. "Man With the Child in His Eyes" is very good, but from a songwriting/analysis point of view, her first single, "Wuthering Heights" is IMHO a better choice.
That said, every album is chock full of creative, engaging work.
@@harvey66616 I agree on Wuthering Heights, It's her debut, it was her only U.K. #1 (until Running Up that Hill hit it this year), it has the distinction of being the first self-penned U.K. #1 by a female artist in the U.K., the back story of the lyrics is fascinating and it's harmonically and melodically very interesting.
In these times of stress and mental health issues, I have used this song as an emotional dipstick - some days I can happily sing either or both parts, on others I'll croak through half a line before the tears start and I know to seek out support and show myself some kindness. Absolutely love this song.
A song which has meant a great deal to many, many, people, since it first emerged.
Since you don't know 10CC: They were awesome. Listen to "I'm Not In Love" of the mid 70's when digital was not around for years to come. They overdubbed themselves about 75 times to create that unique sound.
yeah! fun fact "I'm not in love" is another amazing love song 😅
If you're going to revisit Kate Bush I would highly recommend The Ninth Wave, the 2nd side of her 1985 Hounds of Love album; a perfect choice for a Friday masterpiece. PS Godley & Creme are Kevin Godley & Lol Creme who were half of 10cc, a great pop rock band from here in the UK, who were huge in the 70s. They left the band in 1976 and ventured into pop video production, as well as releasing their own music
“I’ve never been a real fan of Kate Bush…” Well listen, she is amazingly clever in her work.
Oh yes. Dough, please dig into some of Kates work. She is totally unique and for the most of her work, you have to listen twice or more, to fully understand her approach. You should listen to 'The Ninth Wave' suite which is the B-side (:-) of The hounds of love. Beautiful!
Check out 10cC as a band and Godley and Cream as producers. They are fantastic…
I find the triple album Consequences by Godley and Creme also very entertaining, as well as An Englishman in New York. Guess they were more famous in Europe
Indeed. The work they did on I'm not in love is one of the most phenomenal endeavors
@@erickvermeulen9734 Could we’ll be, Europe has a very different scene to America in many ways.
@@earthrise3672 Agree…
@@classicraceruk1337 Indeed. Of course humor and setting on Consequences is very British (Thank God for the Rolls, the cheaper cars were going backwards) but I am pretty sure Doug would love the instrumental parts like The Flood.
Washing of the Water is another fantastic song by Peter, should try it.
I simply adore the entire Us album. Digging in the Dirt is possibly the angriest song ever. So much venom in the words.
The Us album languished in my collection for about a decade; I listened to it a few times, enjoyed it, and that was about it . But in 2003, my then-wife and I separated (we never reconciled, later divorced); as I'd done before in difficult times I went in search of music to help me cope... and that's when I rediscovered Us, which resonated with me from end to end when I most needed it. Still a favorite.
I still sing along with Washing of the Water; every time I hit the line "I'll get those hooks out of me, and I'll take out the hooks that I sunk deep in your side" I can barely keep it together.
10cc: One of the best, if not _the_ best British prog-_pop_ bands of the 70's (the great prog-_rock_ bands like Genesis or Yes aside of course).
"The original Soundtrack", "Sheet Music" and "How dare you!" are considered to be their best albums (and most inventive, progressive and original).
Definitely prog-pop and just so clever with those lyrics. "When the barman said what are you drinking, I said marriage on the rocks". Just brilliant.
Agreed. You gotta check out 10cc Doug!
"Don't give up" is such a strong song. All of the comfort you need at a certain time, all hope, all these special things are provided through this song. When I heard it for the first time, I must have been 13 or so. Although such a song does not belong to a teenager's catalog, I felt from the first second on that this song is special. Later then, it brought me comfort when I was sad. It brought me hope when I was devastated. It brought me a smile when times were hard.
By the time I heard it for the first time, I didn't understand English. And so, I was unable to figure out the meaning. Later, I found out what Peter wrote with this song. This is amazing until today.
By the way, thank you for pulling down the fences for a moment. We all are normal people with all emotions that you can imagine. I saw that the song touched you. This is normal, this song touches everyone. Great video. Thank you.
I saw Peter Gabriel in London on the tour supporting the So album. When he introduced Don't Give Up he also introduced Kate Bush to sing it with him. One of a number of very fortunate events in my life of attending live music.
It´s a great song by two great singers. Kate Bush is AMAZING!
I´m surprised you don´t know 10CC Godley & Creme, where were you in the 70´s 80´s? I´m Not in Love, An Englishman in New York and Cry are absolute hits, gorgeously beautiful.
They are great video makers, they did The Police "Every Breath You Take", Duran Duran "Girls On Film" and Frankie Goes to Hollywood "Two Tribes". Also, they were the first to ever use "morphing" technique in a music video. They did that in 1985, for their beautiful song Cry. In 1991 Michael Jackson´s "Black or White" music video "borrowed" Godley & Creme's idea.
Where was he in the seventies? Doug is an eighties kid..😀
@@leproghead Right...
No matter what, Mozart is from 1756, Beethoven is from 1770, and Doug knows, Teach and Play music of all of them. The same applies to Genesis and YES which are bands from 1967 and 1968. Doug is an artist, a very well educated Musician, so, his knowledge of music of a one generation earlier than his, shouldn´t be a problem to learn.
Loving the attention to Kate Bush here. Doug, you gotta hear her earlier work to get a more complete picture. The Dreaming remains as one of my favorite albums of all time, and Never for Ever is another work of genius. She was much more theatrical and experimental with her music in those times.
10cc was a really interesting band from the 70s and after they broke up, two of the members (Godley and Creme) went on to become music video directors. They were a huge part of the look and feel of MTV at the time. "I'm Not In Love" would be a great listen for you!
Yes, indeed! Granted, "I'm Not In Love" is more of a production tour de force, but it started out as a bossa nova style tune, so might be interesting to analyze it from that perspective. :)
10cc was a whole other kind of "progressive". Definitely a bit out there, but for someone like Doug here exploring the early adventurers of rock, it's a must-listen at some point!
@@harvey66616 Doug's reaction to 10cc's 'Don't Hang Up' could be priceless!
Such a lovely song! Truly love Peter Gabriel’s voice.
Hello Doug. This is my first commentary on this channel, so just let me say that I really love the way how you not only analyse the songs from a musicians point of view, but how you dive deeper into the lyrics and their meaning. Really like your channel.
This song gives me goosebumps. So sad and hopeful at the same time. A beautiful song by two of greatest voices in popular music. And Tony Levin's bass playing is sublime.
Since I'm a huge Peter Gabriel and Genesis fan I'm hoping for more reactions to their music in the future.
Greatings from Germany 🇩🇪 🙋♂️
10cc. Ostensibly a pop band of the 70’s. But surprisingly sophisticated for the radio audience.
“I’m Mandy, fly me.” …Some really good progressions in there.
“Art for Arts sake” …interesting and reasonably complex.
Godley and Creme made a lot of groundbreaking videos for many artists, one of the most popular being “cry” for themselves.
It doesn’t look that great now, but there was nothing like it at the time, and it was before computer blending/morphing was available.
Worth ten mins of your time.
Keep it up buddy. Love your channel.
Such an uplifting song. As you pointed out, she is supporting him even in the non vocal parts. A brilliant piece of music with eternal hope etched in its DNA.
Don’t give up, because somewhere there’s a place where you belong…
I don't find it uplifting. I see the song as a "conflict" between positivity and negativity. Kate is trying to comfort Pete, but Pete's bitterness remains the same as the song fades...
I've seen Peter live in 3 of his 4 recent tours and he's so original, humble, hard-working and a wonderful talent. Can't wait for the next tour.
He made a really good first album with the song Games without Frontiers featured on it. There were no cymbals used on the album. None at all 😸 after that he would enter the commercial arena for more exposure I guess 😉
@@zaradragonia9863 Well, "Games Without Frontiers" was on his third album. But that album was really good, as was his actual first (I think Doug has already done "Solsbury Hill" from that album though, one great song among a whole slew of great songs on the album).
When Peter Gabriel was asked about the video: "I can think of worse ways to make a living." I love his humor. Oh. and if you don't know 10cc, you need to do one of their songs: I suggest I'm Not in Love
I read that Peters then wife was not so happy about the video... 😱
I‘m not into Pop music, but this is such a good song. I particularly love Peter‘s part during the bridge in the middle, it‘s so intense.
What a awesome song !! Me and my wife often dance with each other with this song.......we both had a bad childhood’s and just having each other and songs like this can get you through things you can’t speak of.......♥️
Beautiful reaction Doug, you summed the song up perfectly. Peter's deep empathy for people is woven into the fabric of so much of his music. Some other classic examples are "Biko", "Red rain" & "Wallflower", he has an amazing way of conveying their story & putting you right there with them, extraordinary. Incidentally that plucked counter melody in the opening & verses probably would have been Tony Levin playing the Chapman stick. Best Wishes
I thought that about Levin and the stick but apparently he was playing a heavily damped regular bass guitar, see the comments above.
@@RobinFaichney Wow, that's really interesting, their attention to detail to achieve all the little nuances was amazing, tks for that Rob 👍
Lol Creme & Kevin Godley of 10cc ie : " I'm not in love " fame . And then you need to go down the 10cc rabbit hole ❤️
Never heard of 10cc, Doug??
You’ve astonished me there … thoroughly recommend that you give them a try. Start with “I’m not in love” which should get your harmonic analysis whiskers twitching… ‘Twas the go to anthem of every love-lorn British teenager in the mid 70’s !
The bass is Tony's Chapman Stick, a wonderful and expensive instrument with active strings. 10CC were Manchester's Beatles in the 70's. Sheet Music, The Original Soundtrack, How Dare You and Deceptive Bends are all wonderful records. This video may have contributed to Peter's divorce. (He spent a whole day hugging up Kate Bush. Who wouldn't get jealous?)
Levin played bass guitar not Chapman stick on this track. It's a regular five string Music Man Stingray.
As for the hugging and Gabriel's divorce, Lol Creme told that Gabriel was more than a little bit sceptical to the idea at first. It turned out He and Bush ahd done it before and been caught by his wife. But then again, Gabriel's wife had already had an affair on the side for quite some time so their marriage was probably already dead before Kate Bush came into the picture.
@@tessjuel Wikipedia agrees with you. He's tapping those notes like you do on a stick, hence my assumption.
@@tessjuel yes, you are right. I read Tony’s book Beyond the Bass Clef (witty and very informative, btw), he described how he had used diapers to achieve this muted sound
@@tessjuel and I just checked, and Tony is picking. Mea culpa.
Two very unique voices. Wonderful. Loving it! Peter Gabriels solo work is quite interesting as well. I'm coming back to him again and again.
Fun fact: I came across this video just after sending this to another person. 5 min. ago. On june, 30th, of 2022.
That is, how present this song is to me, still today.
Greetings from the far north of Germany!
I was 50 and my grandad 92 when he died. He was my last surviving grandparent. The day he died I went to see a 15 month old little friend. She climbed up, put her arms round me, her head on my shoulder, and patted me on the back. Something I’d done to her so many times. It was exactly what I needed at that time. I’ve no idea how she knew. She’s 8 years old now and I do want I can to help, driving her to after school activities, going on litter picking walks, etc. I’ll never forget the love that got me through a dark time. Not even when she’s full of chocolate and high as a kite on sugar.
Good to see so many 10cc listeners here,.I'm not sure how popular they were in The States, but they made some great albums in the 70;s...and their early stuff , like " The Dean and I " and " Rubber Bullets " had an American " vibe " , although I preferred their longer songs.
I love catching you each day. Sometimes I know the music so well because I loved this stuff whenever I heard it. I'd sing along. I have never done well reading music, but I can sing along and harmonize. It's great to have a Daily Doug to tell me more. This tune shows PGabriel's mastery of humanity. poetry, music, stage, and so much else. Hope you will find some Kate Bush (maybe another cooperation) to listen to and comment. Thanks for sharing and caring to be so dedicated to your art.
When it is done right by intelligent skilful musicians, music perks you up, makes you want to sing and dance, calms you down, soothes the soul, calls you to arms, informs and educates. It is better than any drug and has no unfortunate side effects. This is such a powerful song.
I was entirely with you up to "better than any drug". Better than most of them certainly, but music can't dig up and turn over all your subconscious stuff like psychedelics do (with the help of music in some cases)... and I can assure you Peter and Kate know all about that... even Doug uses the green stuff to aid music appreciation...
Peter is one luck bugger, but as well. There is a whole generation who who would love to have had a 3 minute hug with Kate.
Apparently Peter asked her for a date (in so many words!).. she graciously declined 🙂
I also heard that he did the same with Sinead O'Connor! Lucky women 😉
There are more than a few of us who would would have loved to have that 3 minute hug with Peter.
@@zaradragonia9863 While rumors of an affair with Kate Bush are reportedly just that, apparently he and O'Connor did in fact have a fling. Not that it's relevant at all musically. Just thought I'd mention. 😉
@@harvey66616 Ok Kate was probably still seeing Del Palmer
Peter is my number one in music❤️
Glad you're hitting this. Love both Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush. Two of my favorite artists. Glad it made it to YT. Thanks, Doug.
This is a very special song to the Bushwackers drum and bugle corps in NJ. It makes me so happy to hear, whenever I hear it.
You commented that you didn't know who Godley and Creme of 10CC were. You absolutely need to add "10CC - I'm not in Love" onto your list then. Check out the video of "The making of I'm not in Love". Fascinating story of how they recorded the song.
Love your show. Keep up the great work!
Your videos are amazing and give me a positive to look forward to each week, thankyou 👍
Thank you! 🙏 Over the years I’ve sent this songs to people in my life going through difficult times. Whether it be family, close friends - it’s always just the perfect mood and sentiment. Thank God for music! 🎶
In 1979 katec did a tv special
With peter doing here comes the flood and another song...quite a case of kindred spirits.
Kate also featured on Petes 3rd album backing vox
Doug, I love you and what you are doing on this channel. Peter is one uncommonly enlightened soul. For me this song of the 80’s is for us. We who were staying true to the blissful joy of the 60’s & 70’s awakening and saw it all come tumbling down with the advent of cocaine. The darkness moved right into the void that was left in our generational vibration and we are seeing the devastation of the heartless pursuit of power before our very eyes today. All of this darkness is but a raindrop in the power of The Sea Of Love. Hang onto that and to each other.
These were the days when Tony was playing the "Chapman Stick." 11 strings is it? Nothing else sounds like it. All tapping and hammer downs. Ridiculously elegant.
the awesome
power
emotion
meaning
within this song
is overwhelming
i have yet to see a reactor
to this composition
notice the slow visuals
in the background
of the total eclipse of the sun
that's how drawn into Peter & Kates
rendition of this performance
the bass also resonates deep in one's core
{:-)PAV uk
This whole Gabriel album was musically and emotionally gold. Kate is prety magical. Thanks for doing this one Doug.
Kate Bush has so many incredible musical creations to her name it’s hard to pinpoint one to suggest you listen to. A true legend.
Was so looking forward to this. At least I was finally able to see this. Thanks Doug for posting this on your main channel. Doug, you should react to Mercy Street on this album, unless you did already.
Just goes to show how powerful music can be. It can break down barriers. And those two are not only great singers, they present their music in a unique way. Have a look at their live performances
This is a wonderfull uplifting song. It has helped me to listen to it when i have gone through tough times in my life. Which has happened several times.
Doug, you are an absolute joy to watch my friend. Thank you . Sallyanne xxxx
"So Peter, do you have any suggestions for the music video?"
"Yes, I'd like to hug Kate Bush for 6 minutes, please."
Fantastic just brilliant.
Sometimes you can feel so ground down by everything around you, that it's hard to keep on moving. And here's some guy in America, shoving his friendly face at the screen, and giving us all a hug from Peter and Kate. Thanks, Doug. Have a hug back ✌️.
"Peter Gabriel 4" is the other one I'd go for. There just isn't anything bad about it, from where I sit. Kate Bush, "The Man With The Child In His Eyes".... Wonderful. 💙
Tony Levin was a master playing Chapman stick which usually has ten or twelve individually tuned strings and is used to play bass lines, melody lines, chords, or textures.
1:15 From what I've been told it was Dolly Parton's agent who declined the offer; apparently Parton herself never even heard about it.
your videos remind me of our humanity, we speak the same language of music and it's very refreshing to share it with people who get it, music is the true language of all humans and it's just beautiful to share that with each other. thank you Doug for all of your videos and time. this song is a masterpiece.
One of My 5 top albums of The 6000+ musical works that i know and listen to, of every genre. A Stainless masterwork.
Thanks for featuring this Doug, it's one of my favourites. I've never noticed it before but during the video a solar eclipse is showing in the background...
Yeah 10CC would be a fun choice for this channel! Somewhere in Hollywood, Don't hang up, The second sitting for the last supper, One night in Paris. They wrote so many good songs!
Love it, when you keep it real. Cant wait for your next one
Tony Levin often plays a Chapman Stick bass, and it might be that. The wiki just says "bass". It could be a combo of several bass types. There is definitely a little bit of fretless bass in the latter sections.
He could be doing that thing with the drumsticks on his fingers...
no, its an electric bass. If it was the Stick, you’d see him playing it live.
@@framundajohnson2186 I agree that is most likely but it does sound perscussive. so. as the previous person said, he also did tapping with things on his fingers, so it's a probably combo of all these things.
Live could be done completely diferently, of course.
1 subscriber "This channel doesn't have any content". yeah.... "Framunda Johnson" ... right
@@papalaz4444244 It’s Tony playing a 4 string electric bass with his fingers!
I highly recommend "You" by Roy Harper, Kate Bush and David Gilmour. Amazing collaboration!
Rapid second for this! Great track though Roy has done even better. I would love to get Doug’s take on one of his longer pieces like ‘Same old Rock’, ‘Me and my Woman’, or the magnificent ‘One of those days in England’.
The live version of one of those days by Roy is great
Doug, You help demystify music and help us understand the changes in these songs. From that, we can use your knowledge to decipher other songs and ultimately build our own...or at least try. Which for me is the reason I"m drawn to you. Thank you so very much for sharing your knowledge.
The melodic instrument is Tony Levin playing the Chapman "Stick". A wonderful string instrument designed in the 1970's. It is mostly used to play bass and higher register melody lines. There is no plectrum used as strings are plucked by "tapping" the notes on the neck. Having 10 or 12 strings allows many melodic and polyphonic voicings.
Awwww Doug. The feels at the end of the video were almost better than the song. You are a happy place for me and your channel has helped me so much. Thank you for sharing your heart and soul. Much love ❤️
I always loved the idea of the eclipse going on in the background and mirroring the "mood" of the music and the lyrics... It somehow moves me to tears. Maybe because it's something that I associate to the concept itself of "not giving up". Even in the darkest moment, when the Sun itself goes away, we just stand up and don't give up, and the light will be back eventually. This may apply to pretty much EVERY human context and conditions, individually and socially and as a whole. It's a very deep message. ❤
Thank you once more, for your analysis, your kind words, the message you convey, and of course the sharing of your musical (and not only musical) knowledge, which enriches us the watchers and listeners. 🙂
10cc were very big in UK in the 70's and 80's. Massive hit was "I'm not in love". Also worth checking out the guitar solo on "Feel the Benefit".
Great song, great video, great Peter Gabriel & Kate Bush ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Caligula's Horse did a lovely cover of this, just as simple in places and a bit more Rock in others.
Thank you so much for choosing this one. Probably among my top five songs of all time. And the video's just as good. :)
Thank you for your thoughts on Gabriel's song. It means a lot to me and I have followed Peter Gabriel from his early years as a musician. I have struggled with anxiety and depression since I turned seven and I had my first anxiety attack when I thought I was going to die. I'm 65 years old now. The music means so much and I enjoy your comments in your sessions. I can tell you about another wonderful musician I have followed for many years. He unfortunately died a few years ago, but he was a wonderful musician and human being. He was the first white musician to play with colored musicians in South Africa. His name was Johnny Clegg and his song "The Crossing" is about his friend Dudu Mntowaziwayo Ndlovu (who was born a week after me) and his untimely death! The video is Wonderfully Beautiful.
Chapman Stick my friend. One of my favorite songs ever, so needed in these times!!! Westminster ...... sad face.
That song strikes a nerve with me because it came out at the peak of the "Great Recession" of the 80's. I remember it vaguely on the radio as I drove from place to place applying for jobs while making due with a minimum wage job after my first child was born. It was a tough time that my now grown children will probably never experience.
Kate Bush had worked with Peter Gabriel before, for the song "Games Without Frontiers" from so called "Peter Gabriel III / Melt" as the album only has title "Peter Gabriel", like the previous two albums. The bassist Tony Levin invented the method of playing bass on drumstick which Gabriel allowed to be experimented live. Then they suggested Levin to attach short sticks on the fingers, giving the percussive sound to bass without using the slap and pop technique of funk music. Yet it is called funk fingers.
We can see a classic scene with this song, on the TV show "Miami Vice" in the 1980's, (in the episode: 'Redemption in Blood')
I join the chorus of voices saying you must listen to 10cc. I'd go all the way back to their first, untitled, album. So talented, so clever, so unique, so weird.
Peter Gabriel is such a good musician that with a couple of chords, a whistle, and good lyrics he made a classic like Games Whitout Frontiers. He was the first to experiment with African rhythms, when he tried funk, pop and disco, an album as great as So came out. Only admiration for a musical genius. I propose Games Withouth Frontiers for your análisis Doug
You know that is Kate on the backing vocals singing the chorus in French. I can't remember how to spell it 😸
@@zaradragonia9863 "Jeux sans frontières". Technically, that translates to "games without borders". It's a reference to a French game show that aired from 1962 through most of the rest of the century in one form or another.
@@harvey66616 The original French games show was called "Intervilles" (no translation needed). Other countries did their own adaptation ("It's a Knockout" in the UK), while "Jeux Sans Frontières" was the international version. The lyrics tell it all!
Hans plays with Lotte, Lotte plays with Jane
Jane plays with Willi, Willi is happy again
Suki plays with Leo, Sacha plays with Britt
Adolf builds a bonfire, Enrico plays with it
Whistling tunes we hide in the dunes by the seaside
Whistling tunes we're kissing baboons in the jungle
It's a knockout
@@harvey66616 that's right ☺️
Such a powerful song for the lyrics and Peter's voice. The video is perfect and the first time I've seen it! I do like the live version from the Secret World Live video with Paula Cole though.
Hey Doug, Tony played a music man stingray I believe on this track. He utilized a heavily compressed sound and using a pick, combined with foam padding stuck in the bridge behind the bridge pickup to stop the sustain. The melodic instrument that is playing the sort of heavily muted carnival organ sound is most likely the FairLight. It's a synthesizer that utilizes sampled sounds that can be manipulated. He was known as one of the first to use them. Also 10CC is known as Godley and Cream and are noted for the haunting song "I'm not in love".
The bass sound that Tony Levin uses on this song was accomplished by MacGyvering a solution: he used a diaper to mute the strings.
What could be better than two of the greatest musical artists working together on a song credited by many as literally a life saver? Elton John being just one citing it as inspiration in a dark suicidal time. You would love just about all of Peter’s output with New Blood orchestra. His version of I THINK ITS GOING TO RAIN TODAY or particularly the astounding MY BODY IS A CAGE. I’m also a fan of Kate Bush’s AERIAL or the live BEFORE THE DAWN which are certainly experimental and impressive. RE 10CC I’m sure you must have heard at least IM NOT IN LOVE? Intelligent pop at its best.
Beautiful! Two awesome voices. And as number three of a perfect pair big credit to Tony Levin and his bass work on here.
Well I’ll suggest you gotta dive deeper into both these vocalists. Did you do PeterGabriel4? A review of side1 as a whole would be awesome. And about Kate… the ninth wave suite is such a great songcycle… highly recommended!
This is on my playlist as I fight back against the rare blood cancer, Multiple Myeloma.