Sawmill School - Air Drying Your Lumber
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- Join master-sawyer, Dave Boyt, as he debunks common drying myths, and explains, in easy-to-understand plain-speak, the concepts behind air drying your boards, the relationship between relative humidity and the equilibrium moisture content, and other valuable tips.
You can also check out Dave's other drying video in the Sawmill School video series ... "Cutting Blocking & Stickers" at www.norwoodsawmills.com/tv/in...
There are many variables as to how long it will take wood to dry: species, condition of wood, dimension sawn, manner in which the wood has been stickered and stacked, ambient temperatures and humidity levels, prevalence of wind, etc … all play a big part in drying. And, of course, what is “dry” enough depends on what you plan on doing with your wood.
1" per year is the rule of thumb, but a year of drying in Phoenix, AZ is much different from a year of drying in Seattle, WA. Also, it depends on species: Walnut for example, dries more quickly than white oak. No matter how long you air dry lumber, it will never reach the kiln-dry moisture content required for indoor furniture. Best thing is to get a moisture meter and you can monitor your boards as they dry.
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This guy is what everyone should aspire to become in their own given professions. Deeply knowledgeable, kind, and obviously enjoys his work. Super helpful video, thank you!
Thanks for watching, and for your comment. I do enjoy my work, though I've worked many second-shift hours on a sheet metal press while saving up for the mill!
This guy is everyone’s best neighbor.
Thanks! People do still help each other out here in these parts. I've been on both ends of the "good neighbor" exchange many times!
That dude has got some knowledge!
Can't beat learning from experience! Mostly a matter of just getting out there and not being afraid of making mistakes (as long as they don't hurt too much!). Just watched your video running the Snow Cat. Looks like an amazing part of the world!
@@daveboyt6810 thanks for watching. It is an amazing place.
Thank you for educating the rest of us. Greatly appreciated
Thanks!
What happens when you use the lumber with alot of moisture in it .
It shrinks, and might warp, like the trailer decking. Depends on how you use it.
This is a great video, with enough technical and scientific background and smoothly explained. Thanks Mr Boyt!
Thanks for watching and the kind words. It's a pretty complex topic, and I might hit it again-- I'm always open to suggestions.
Your voice, cadence, and attitude (not to mention the down-to-earth topic) brings me back to my childhood days watching Red Green. You're certainly a lot more informative, though! Thanks for the information, Dave.
THANKS FOR SHARING WITH US DAVE. 🇺🇸✌️👍
Well, we do have a slightly different approach to changing oil in the family car, but I use a fair amount of duct tape on a regular basis. And I don't care whether women fine me handsome or handy, as long as they find me!
A great simple and direct explanation of important details. I've been milling for personal use for 12 years and it was a very steep learning curve and I'm still learning.
So true! Twelve years ago, there weren't nearly as many resources for learning. The whole key is in your last statement "I'm still learning". Me, too. When something unexpected happens (sometimes good, sometimes bad), stopping and trying to figure out WHY it happened and how to either make it happen again, or never repeat it. I also learn a lot from comments by people who have a different way of doing things.
Quality talk!
I appreciate your professionalism and candor.
Thank you
Thanks for watching, and for leaving the comment.
Thank you for your helpful knowledge of how wood dries over time especially in relation to the realities humidity. I also like your technique for remembering what kind of wood you cut and when you cut it with the tin lid, awesome!
Thanks for watching, and thanks for the comment. I still have a few stack of wood that I have no idea what they are until I run 'em through a planer.
Amazing video sir! I'm a novice woodworker but plan to start milling soon. Great tips and keep chugging along!
Thanks, Austin. Woodworkers who have the opportunity to mill their own lumber have a real advantage, because they can control the cutting more carefully, and because they have a better understanding of the wood itself. Once you get sawdust in your veins, there's no turning back!
This is the best video I have seen on this subject. Plain and simple. Easy to understand and well done. Thank You...
Thanks, George. You a sawyer or woodworker?
@@daveboyt6810 Woodworker. There are more mills opening up all over the place but finding dry lumber is hard to find. Thanks again...
I do enjoy listening and watching people like yourself sharing your knowledge and experience. It is so valuable. Thank you and keep it up.
Thanks, John. Are you a woodworker or running a sawmill?
@@daveboyt6810 I am from New Zealand and I am a Carpenter by trade
Hey Brother appreciate your attitude and sound advice great video. I handle store bought lumber in my work alot and it was just cool to see how you have provided a great service to people with your mill and earned a living making usefull boards. God bless and take care. Nothing like the smell of fresh cut wood it is like fresh bread from the oven to me.
Thanks, Edward. Yeh, I can pretty much tell what kind of wood I'm cutting by the smell, but fresh sourdough bread is even better!
Wow, that was a load of great info. I found the real world examples you showed especially helpful. Subbed because I can't wait to watch and learn from your other videos!
I enjoyed watching a couple of your videos. Am looking seriously into wood gas for fuel. You planning to get a mill?
Wonderfully informative. I'm looking into getting a mill in the near future to help my retirement, and every bit of information is helpful. Easiest to get it right the first time.
Good luck with the mill. It'll keep you busy & lots of good exercise, if you don't overdo it. You won't get everything right the first time, but as long as you pay attention and use some common sense, you'll do fine.
Thank you for that information. Very handy stuff to keep in mind and look more into.
Sir. You'd be easy to Love.. you're a good teacher and I miss my Grandpa and Dad. Thanks for being the quality gentleman you are.
Awwwww. Thanks for the comment. My dad worked with me at the mill until he was 91. I wouldn't trade the memories of that for anything. I hope to get my grandkids working on the mill one of these days.
Awesome, straight forward explanation.
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback, always looking for ideas for more videos.
Was lucky enough to know a couple gentleman like yourself in my youth that were willing to teach me important things as you do in your videos . A really teacher you are sir.
Thanks. I owe a lot to the people who showed me things along the way. Most valuable lessons are how to stop and figure things out when they don't work the way they should the first time around. That and persistence.
That was the best, most succinct explanation of the necessity of wood drying I’ve seen. I’m subscribing!
Thank you!
And that’s a really cool cat!
Thanks! Yeh, Scooter is a cool cat, but he's pretty full of himself sometimes. I'm always open to new ideas for videos.
Amazing instructions, thank you for sharing your wisdom and guidance on a super hard process that I'm just getting into. I really like how you explain things and show each step. Wish I could work under you to learn more.
Thanks for watching, and for leaving a comment. It isn't really all that difficult, once you learn a few of the basics. You might be able to find a local sawyer who would trade lessons & info for a little grunt work.
Hi Dave. Your mannerisms make it quite relaxing to listen to you. The reason I'm making this comment, though, is to say I'm glad you have a kitty. I think it's an unwritten rule that every sawmill needs its cat. She probably brings good luck, too.
I don't know about the good luck, but he occasionally leaves a dead mouse on the bed. Guess he figures I need a midnight snack once in a while! 🤪
@@daveboyt6810 Ha, ha! I imagine, like all cats, he is good at getting in the way.
Thank you for educating me. I learned a lot. Just beginning here. Thanks again
Thanks. Let me know if you have any specific questions or topics you'd like to see covered.
Thanks for the info Dave. I just got a mill and am finding it's a steep learning curve. I've watched a few of your video's and finding them very helpful especially compared to some other video's out there. The biggest challenge I'm finding so far is getting a straight cut. Your video on tracking was helpful,. I'm cutting 24" spruce in 3 to 4 inch slabs for live edge benches. pretty wavy but I think I'll get it figured out.. thanks for your help.
Hi, Bruce. Thanks for the comment. I don't know what it is about spruce, but it does seem to be more difficult to cut straight that most species. It might be that 10 degrees hook angle is too aggressive, and a 7 or even a 4 degree angle would do better for you. Which mill do you have, and how are you tensioning the blade?
Thank you so much for taking the time to pass on your wisdom
Thanks for watching, and for leaving a comment!
Some great info Dave, thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. Cat makes a great co-host!
Thanks! Scooter's cameo appearance was unscripted, and I didn't even realize he was in the last bit of video until I edited it. My wife takes in strays.
Very scientific and practical information. Thank you good sir!! Excellent video
Thanks, Sean. The interaction between wood and moisture is probably the biggest issues sawyers and woodworkers have to deal with.
Thank you Dave, from another Missouri sawyer!
Good to hear from you. Brice. Stop by for coffee & to swap a few lies if you're ever down our way (60 mile west of Springfield).
Thank you for the very easy to understand explanation. New to the game in Joplin Mo and found this to be great info.
That makes us neighbors! I'm about 5 miles east of Crowder College down by Neosho. Stop by for coffee some time. My # is in the phone book.
Fantastic video Mr. Boyt! Thank you for the education!
Thanks, Rob! Drying is often overlooked, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to go to all the work of milling lumber just to have the boards turn into firewood because of inadequate drying. Is your interest in the video as a woodworker or a sawyer?
@@daveboyt6810 I am a hobbyist woodworker and we recently had to take down a pin oak my grandmother planted Arbor Day 1936. I purchased a 48" Granberg Alaskan chainsaw mill to slab the tree in place and eventually craft it into a dining room table.
Thanks Dave. Enjoy your videos, very helpful!!!👍
Thanks. Glad you liked it.
Thanks Dave, great video, much appreciated. I will now have to see if you have a video on how to stack wood for air drying. Keep up the good work and stay safe.
Hi, Jon, thanks for the feedback. This video might be helpful: ruclips.net/video/6XXE1BcfEpA/видео.html. Are you running a sawmill?
Check out "Sawmill School - Cutting Blocking & Stickers to Air Dry Your Lumber" on RUclips at ruclips.net/video/6XXE1BcfEpA/видео.html or Sawmill TV at www.norwoodsawmills.com/tv/index.aspx?isVideo=true&id=312955927
I absolutely love this video!! I learned a lot about the process and appreciate your time!
Thanks for watching and for leaving the feedback. I'm still learning!
@@daveboyt6810 you're welcome!
Very excited to see you back Dave. You should do more videos
Working on another, right now.
He really is great
Very helpful & educational. Thanks.
So glad I found your channel. Very informative
Thanks for watching!
Very good info thanks for sharing!
Excellent video. Thanks so much
Thanks. I enjoy making videos almost as much as I enjoy running the mill!
The man is eating beanie weenies to get tin can lids for marking stacks of lumber. I like this guy ! Great video. I learned a lot.
Actually, the can lids came from dog food, and no, I didn't eat it! 😛
I loved your video, and it was apparent right away that you knew what you were talking about.
I've been a traditional style woodcarver and furniture maker for over fifty years. My dad always told me to stack my slabs two feet off the ground, use stickers at least every two feet in a uniform vertical line, paint the end grains, edges, and both surfaces, at least 6" back from the ends to slow the drying process to reduce checking and cracking. Also, he told me to keep the sun off of it completely, and air dry one year per inch of thickness outdoors, and then two years indoors for thicker slabs. I guess that would depend on climate, but it has always served me well. Air dried lumber carves better than kiln dried.
I've been using aluminum roofing paint on the ends, but I'll start using your recommendation once I review your video and learn whatever the heck that was. 😀 Great video!
Thank you very much Sir!
Your dad gave you good advice! The aluminum roofing paint should work well. The advantage of Anchorseal is that it is a water-based paraffin that doesn't penetrate into the wood so it machines off easily with no residue.
"Air dried lumber carves better than kiln dried." -- I always wondered why is that.
@@MrProtozaur I've always wondered myself. My dad showed me the difference when I was a kid and I was amazed at how much better 'that old Pine board' carved vs the 'kiln dried board' that he had purchased.
I'd sure like to know who figured that one out.
I really enjoy viewing your videos. Thanks
Thanks, Tommy. I watched a Vinylmania video-- nice sound. You guys still makin' music? Need a dulcimer player? :)
Great info and enjoyable video, thank you...
Thanks for watching, and for the kind words.
Alright, it's time to learn about humidity on lumber with the grandpa that I never have.
I learned to stretch barbed wire from my grandpa, and after 60 years, still have the scars.
Very informative video, thanks
Interesting. Thanks for sharing 👍
Great info thank you! Am looking into investing in a mill to run here in Alaska and Norwood is at the top of my list 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for the comment. Norwood mill won't disappoint you! I see you've uploaded a lot of aviation videos. I used to do some flying-- my favorites were a Stinson 108 and a Grumman Yankee. Always wanted to get checked out in a Beech D-18.
Very helpful and informative! Thank you!
Thanks for watching. Are you the Oland Woodworks in the Philippines? If so, you do beautiful work!
Thanks Dave.....for passing on some info that I will pass on also! 🤠
Thanks! Not everything a miller needs to know, but it's a start.
That was super informative. Thank you very much. Makes me want to buy that portable sawmill
Thanks for watching! It's a great sawmill.
Sir, You are GREAT!! Simple and perfect explanations. Thank you.
Thanks, and thanks for watching. Are you a sawyer or woodworker?
@@daveboyt6810 I'm a fledgling student. Ha ha. I have done some sawing and built a pole barn but that was just enough to teach me I have a lot to learn.
Great and very informative video. Thanks for doing this.
Thanks. I watched your video of Aurora drinking from a hose. She & our dog Jake would have a great time chasing each other!
Excellent presentation. Fine job sir!
Thanks!
You are really knowledgeable about wood and lumber.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Dave. Great educational videos.
Thanks for watching!
Very good video sir, thank you for your knowledge! Regards from Brazil.
Thanks for watching, and for leaving the comment.
Best vid i've ever watched!Fully enjoyed Dave's easy going tone and life time of knowledge.
Thanks! I appreciate that. Actually it is a lifetime of trying not to repeat mistakes too many times.
Thank you Dave. Your very knowledgeable and down to earth. It's a pleasure to learn from you.
I appreciate that, Rick. Are you a woodworker or sawyer?
@@daveboyt6810 Woodworker mostly. I've made some lumber. i have a ceder trunk I cut 2 yr's ago. It's 40" at base by 32'. After listening to you I realize I better get busy but I only have a 22" bar and I don't know how to cut it. Do you think I should invest in a larger bar?
@@rickrodgers9277 Depends... what size saw do you have? Do you anticipate cutting more logs in the future? In addition to the bar, you'll want a ripping chain which is filed at a flatter angle than a conventional chain. Here's a link of me quartering a sycamore log about that size so I can get it on the mill (that part starts at 15:50) ruclips.net/video/eLbnjkjXDmw/видео.html. Good luck!
@@daveboyt6810 I have an old Stihl MS 290 and I don't foresee cutting another log this size. Thank you for your help.
Great video. Answered questions I didn’t even know I had
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for the comment!
Clear and to the point quickly. Good video.
Thanks, Phillip. Are you a sawyer or woodworker?
@@daveboyt6810 Neither right now but I'm retiring soon and I own 15 acres of Ash wood. I dabble in wood working right now.
Great information. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching. I'm always open to suggestions for more videos!
Great information ! Really learned a lot in 12 minutes. Thanks.
Thanks, Jeff. You running a sawmill?
@@daveboyt6810 no just an amateur woodworker trying to learn.
The best sawmill videos on RUclips
Thanks! Do you run a mill or thinking about it?
The tin can lid idea is great!!
Thanks. Sometimes it's the little things like that that make a difference. It's great, when a customer asks for something specific, to locate a stack of what he's looking for.
Thank you so much for these videos.
Thanks for watching, and for leaving the comment!
Great video. Thank you.
Thanks for watching, and for leaving the comment!
Thanks for the great lesson!
Thanks, Joy.
Super educational. Thanks!
Thanks! You've got some awesome paragliding videos. Always wanted to try it.
another greatly useful video - thanks
Thanks, Leigh
thanks for your knowledge
Thanks for watching and for leaving the feedback!
Learned a whole lot in the video awesome thanks old timer
Thanks... still making mistakes, and still learning!
aluminum can lid punched with identifier numbers: Brilliant! Reminds me of the dog tags you seen in Arboretums. Thanks for the informative video!
Thanks for watching and for the comment. Lots of little tricks like that.
Awesome video, A bank of knowledge! Thankyou!
Thanks for watching, and for leaving the comment!
Great content. Thanks very much.
Thanks, Beverley. Maybe there's a connection between "Boys" and "Boyt" somewhere back in time.
God bless you. I've been sawing for 25 years and it's good that your getting the knowledge out there. People just don't get in without experience.
For the young guys
That goes for about anything. There's those who just jump in and do it and learn as they go, and those who learn all they can first. I imagine your first time running that feller buncher was white knuckles! Stay safe & well.
Thank you very much sire you have I answered a ton of questions for me and you are so amazing I have lernd a lot from you I have a os23 and love it hope too get the os36
Thanks for the comment. I've heard that the OS mills are very capable machines, but once you get going, you'll always be looking for a bigger mill, then you'll be pushing it to the max!
Just bought a mill. waiting for delivery. the sawing seems pretty straight forward. the drying process seems it will be the difficult part. I appreciate videos like this!
A true professional makes the difficult look easy!
That's true, but a little video editing doesn't hurt, either!
well said
A moisture meter only reads the surface of wood.
The most accurate way of knowing the moisture content is by weight over a period of the drying time.
For this most valuable and accurate description of determining the moisture content in wood, have Norwood ship me a free portable sawmill like this one used in this video.😊
You're right, but I just don't have time to unbolt the trailer decking to weigh it. After the the wood has had a year or so to equalize out, the moisture meter will give a pretty good idea of the moisture content of the wood. Believe me, the Norwood mill is worth the investment!
You are so wrong in your answer.
Depending on the type of meter you generally are measuring either the electric resistance. But this can be at the surface or as deep as the probes are driven in.
You may also use a microwave sensor or infrared and sorry but way too involved to describe.
But the only actually accurate method is the oven method. It's 100% accurate as density and mineral variation does not affect it.
But it's not always a matter of removing moisture.
It can be the timber needs time to dry or even needs to be dried super fast.
Colouration can also be a significant factor.
It is a science and as some have said it needs people to pass on the knowledge. In reality very few coming in to the industry actually want to hear. Most will fail but whose pocket suffers?
one of the good ol boys.
Thanks for your videos. I've learned a lot from them and enjoyed watching them. In fact when I was toying with the idea of buying a sawmill I think your sawmill school first cut video tipped me over the edge into buy one and so far I'm loving it from cutting the trees to sawing them into lumber.
Once you get sawdust in your veins, there's no turning back. Which mill did you get?
Since money was an issue I ended up getting a woodland mills HM130 max. I'd like more bells and whistles but that will have to be the next iteration. My brother stumbled across your videos and liked them so he's getting the fever too and is thinking of getting a midsize Norwood. Hes got a bit over 40 acres Norway pine and black spruce(55+ years old) that needs to be thinned again lots of 16''-20+'' logs there.
@@paulfranklin5855 The important thing is that you made the leap and are making sawdust! I had two other sawmills before getting a Norwood and if I had to replace it, it would be with another Norwood (their new big one looks pretty cool!). Sounds like both you & your brother will keep the mills busy.
Humble but prolific educator. Where has this breed of teachers gone?
Thanks! I used to teach Jr. High Industrial Arts. It has been said "when the student is ready the master will come", and I've been blessed to learn under many masters of many skills.
Really good!!
Thank you for a great informative simple you tube explanation by a great namesake my name is Judy Boyt from UK
Judy Boyt, the artist???? If so, we're cousins, and have met a couple of times! If not, we're probably still related. We're related to Arthur Boyt... this guy ruclips.net/video/LXVY8kttUtE/видео.html .
@@daveboyt6810 I am the artist/sculptor and we are cousins ! Remind me when we met - are your related to Dick and Libby Boyt?
Delightfully presented and clear as a bell.
Thanks, Chuck. Not too complicated, once you get the basics. Are you a woodworker or sawyer?
@@daveboyt6810 Actually, neither. I heat my house with wood so I do a lot of cutting and splitting but we had two big maple trees that were dying taken down and before I could cut them up for firewood, my wife got the idea we could make them into flooring for our daughter's house renovation. I can do a bit of woodworking so I got a new retirement task. I thought I needed to know how to manage the boards for drying before the sawyer showed up. This really helped. And I really enjoy your presentation style. Thanks again
Nice video Dave.
I've had a few batches of air dried.
I think it's worth it if you can do it.
Better color in the wood.
I think the kiln dried process injects some steam.
The natural wood dyes run out.
Air dried just takes time.
Depends on the wood. On the down side, air drying white wood like maple can discolor, and bugs can be a problem. Industrial kilns use steam to speed up the process, but solar, dehumidification, and vacuum kilns don't. Walnut is typically steamed to turn the sapwood dark but, as you observed, it does affect the color of the heartwood.
Thank you for your knowledge 🇺🇸👍from Rhode Island
Thanks, Matt, good to hear from the ocean state. Are you a sawyer or woodworker?
@@daveboyt6810 I am a novice sawyer, and a practicing woodworker.
@@GTDwithMatt Sounds like you've got sawdust in your veins! Best of luck, and let me know if I can be of any help.
Love his ingenuity of using can tops and a punch set to track inventory. And don't forget your moisture meter, just try to find one that gives a reading right side up. Talk about a design fail.
It is a bit awkward, but as long as it works, I'll deal with it.
What I learned here:
All those uncut logs laying around for years could have been laying around for years cut and dried by now.
Right you are! Lumber left too long in the log becomes firewood or mulch.
Is it easier to mill wet logs, or dry logs?
@@enchantedmountain5354
I would think wet. Less time to dry.
I'm getting ready to build a sawmill for absolutely no reason what so ever. I don't know why I want one but I'm going to build one. I'll be watching your videos I'll need all the help I can get LOL
Wanting one is a good 'nuff reason! Best of luck with your build. Sometimes I think the best help for sawyers is a good therapist! Seriously, you might check out Norwood, as they sell their mills as kits. That way, you have all the parts you need, and a good manual.
@@daveboyt6810 thanks for the advice I didn't know you could buy a kit
Can’t wait to get started
Once you do, there's no turning back!
Great information!
Thanks. And thanks for watching!
Great video! I have a sawmill also. Before I mill up the logs, I paint the ends of the logs to prevent checking. Each species of wood is painted a different color so it's easy to identify each species of wood later.
Good idea. I use AnchorSeal on the good stuff. What kind of mill are you running?
@@daveboyt6810 I'm using a TimberKing 1220 sawmill. I typically use AnchorSeal or white oil-based paint as the first coat on the log ends, then paint a color as a second coat to color-code the lumber. Thanks for your reply.
Does a good job at explaining that thanks.
Thanks for watching, and for leaving the comment!
"Been there a while" - that's what earned my sub. ..
Very informative sir. thanks a lot.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the drying Intel and as a former sawmill owner and woodworker I agree. It's in the relative atmosphere you are in and where you intend your product to end is where we should focus. Shalom and Blessings in our King and Savior Jesus
Aleichem shalom. Thanks for the feedback
great video - there's a lot to drying thick hardwood slabs - no fast tracking!
Thanks for the comment. A vacuum kiln would be a lot faster, but ya gotta make do with what ya have.
Just starting on my adventures in milling wood - great information - less things go wrong with experience - experience comes from things going wrong
Best of luck with your sawmill adventure! Which mill are you using. No matter how much experience you have, things still go awry, but as long as you pay attention, you'll do fine. Let me know if you have any questions or specific topics you'd like to see covered.
@@daveboyt6810 thanks for the reply! Just using a Granberg Alaskan small log mill and edging mill. As I already had chainsaws a plenty it seemed like a good cheap way to have a go at milling my own lumber out of interesting logs I drag home from my work as an arborist. put a decent ripping blade on my table saw. adjustable work bench (a bunch of pallets stacked up) and hey presto small back yard saw mill.
@@tomwilson8190 I've cut many a board with a chain saw, and still fire up the old Husq 2100 to quarter logs that would otherwise be too big for my mill. You can get some pretty interesting logs from arborists, and I try to make it worthwhile for them to give me a call when they have something I can use.
Great advice! Thanks :)
Thanks for watching. Always looking for new ideas for videos.
Thanks for another great video! Very helpful!
Thanks, Jeff. I just took a look at some of your videos and enjoyed them, too. I've lived around horses all my life (well, so far, at least). We've always wanted a Belgian to pull logs out of the wood, but for now it's just me and Henry (an 8N Ford 1 year older than me). Right now we've got two rescued quarter horses.
Dave Boyt I’m glad you enjoyed my videos. I’ve been running my Norwood HD36 for a couple of years now, and I’ve got to tell you that I have learned more from your videos than any other source out there! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and skill with me!
@@CowboyJeffSmith My pleasure. Hope we'll have a chance to meet in person somewhere down the line!
Dave Boyt That would be great!