The Bones of Bonestone. My Thoughts on the Deck, Plus Walkthrough
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Today I take a look at the Bones of Bonestone, also known as the Bonesstone and Earth Flesh Tarot - Sketchbook Edition. I also share a side by side with the original Bonestone and Earth Flesh Tarot. 
Thank you for offering this walkthrough and for also mentioning all of the other amazing work by Ana Tourian. The thing I don't appreciate is that the only place that Ana Tourian is mentioned on the MPC listing for the Bones of the Bonestone deck is hidden in the _Packaging: Custom labeled tin box_ link. If an individual clicks that link and then clicks "back", to view the back of the tin, then they will see the artists name mentioned in the bottom right hand corner of the tin. I just feel one should give credit where credits due and, in terms of marketing and selling a product, that should be right up front where a consumer can see it straight away. Just my opinion, of course. I have no personal qualms with this as I feel people are free to choose who they want to support with their money. I did appreciate hearing your thoughts about the deck. Thanks, Simon. 🌟
I had heard comments about the lack of promotion. But I was pleased to see Ana’s name alongside Avalon’s on the back. To me it seems like they had equal prominence, having their name side-by-side.
I like the look of both but I feel Tarot of the Abyss fills the niche for me so I don’t need either Bonestone version.
Tarot of the Abyss is brilliant. As Simon has said, it really does give deep readings.
I really wantvthe color veraion of this deck.
I actually thought this was Ana Tourain doing a spin off of her Tarotv of the Abyss when I saw it, so the new Boneatone is a no.
I decided against purchasing the Bones of the Bonestone for the price also.. I have the original Bonestone and Earthflesh Tarot, which I had pre ordered 3 years before which meant I only paid £49.95 for the deck.. and a further £20 for postage.. I just couldn't justify to myself paying over double for this deck.. even though I do like the sepia tone it still didn't match the quality of the original coloured deck. It's a very nice deck though.
I must take my original Bonestone and Earthflesh out of its box and use it.. I did want to keep it in its box but it really should be used. And I love Tarot of the Abyss.. It's just as beautiful as the Bones of the Bonestone if not more. Thanks for the walkthrough Simon. Many Blessings 🌙🙏
hi Simon =) You know that I always watch your videos & love them
You might’ve been surprised by my comments in the video 😊
@@the_hermits_cave well now I will have to watch. ;)
I could just never connect with Bonestone and had multiple chances to order...the second I saw Tarot of Abyss I ordered instantly. Go figure! This deck....need to check.
Wow the artwork is just so beautiful! The colour version just blows me away. Thanks for the walkthrough Simon, as a fairly new Tarot deck enthusiast I had never come across these decks but you’ve opened me up to this fantastic artist. Plenty of diversity!😉😘. Price of the sketched deck seems excessive….Would love it if they reprinted the colour deck…I would buy one in the blink of an eye! Enjoy your Holiday time!😅👍🇦🇺😎Max
If I’ve done nothing else to open someone up to Ana’s work, then my work here is done 😉
I got this one as soon as Avalon announced it. I have the original, and I love it, but you can't shuffle without disturbing the gilding. I was thrilled, because I wanted this version from the beginning. A key piece of information you are missing, is that the proceeds from the sale of this deck are also to help fund a second printing of the colored version. That's "why" so expensive. So many people have asked her to print the color one again, but it's really expensive to do that. We don't all have the wherewithal to self-fund. I love the new deck, I think it's like scrying. The linework reaches out card to card, and gives you connections you just don't see in the colored version. I love that I can riffle shuffle it without worrying about gilding, the cards feel wonderful...I've paid more for decks I use less...and that's just the way it goes. I don't think she wanted to make a big deal about the fund-raising part...because if it doesn't work out, she doesn't want to get all the backlash she got before. Avalon has taken a lot of abuse, and I understand. None of that really matters to me. Witches get that kind of treatment all the time, we are used to getting thrown into the fire. I just enjoy the deck. The Bruja card, is only ever going to be in the first edition. It's one of those special touches you got with supporting the original vision. If you want it buy it, maybe you helped get the second edition printed...if you don't want it, well that's easy.
That's very interesting! Where did you find this information about the sketch deck being priced higher to help potentially fund another printing of the original Bonestone/Earthflesh?
@@tigerlybalm out of Avalon's mouth during one of her instagram reels
@Six of Wands we'll see what happens.
@@tamipie Thank you for pointing me in the right direction! I have a concussion so haven't been able to keep up with social media/tarottube, etc. as much as I'd like ): I have limited screen time but would love to know more about this deck (I wasn't even aware of the creator receiving abuse ): ) so it really helps knowing where to look!
Oh, I really hope so, the 2nd edition. I had the 1st edition I my cart, but couldn't justify the cost+shipping, it was so expensive! This edition Im glad I don't like, because I couldn't justify that cost eather (100 euro) for a mpc deck. I love Anas work 💕 I'm also waiting for tarot of Echoes 😍💖
As usual Simon, you handled this controversial situation with grace and much respect for everyone involved. You always find the right words and I admire you for this. I have ordered the deck a few days ago even though I was quite chocked by its price. Having missed in the Bonestone Tarot I thought it would be a good substitute, but how could it when it is a different deck altogether. Such different energy but I am still looking forward to it's addition to my collection. One thought that has been growing since I order the barebone: Why not publishing the Bonestone instead of the Barebone? Is releasing the Barebone a test to release later the colorful Bonestone for double the price of the sepia one? I am all for an artist to get the maximum return for their creation but without a book to accompany the deck where is Cameron fitting in compare to Ana Tourian. As you point out so rightfully it is between those two ladies to decide and I would like to believe it is all equitable in the end. It will be interesting to see what will happen and how well received this new facet of the Bonestone will be by the public. To be continued!
Thank you so much Simon.
Have the most enchanting holidays
X Roxane
I have heard there will be a future re-printing, but also that there won’t. So who knows what the truth is. As you say, to be continued. We will see in the fullness of time. Thank you for your comment and for watching. I hope you have a wonderful festive season!
It’s sad we can’t get bonestone and earth flesh anymore.
Thank you Simon. I just love this deck. I wasn't an original backer (I was on the waiting list in its final year of creation), so this deck cost me £160 I think. I love using it. The bones edition was on my wish list, but seeing them together, I think I might pass. I'm patiently waiting for the tarot of echoes.
That deck will be amazing!
Thanks for the side-by-side comparison. I love all of Ana's decks and the Bonestone is definitely a favorite. I was excited for the sketch deck but the price really put me off. Some sketched cards are really detailed and expressive like the Tarot of the Abyss but the majority are really enhanced by the painting. I think I can live without it but I know its available if I change my mind. BTW the Bruja card is exclusive to the first edition.
I agree, overall I’m pleased I have it and I know I’ll use it more than the original, but it won’t be for everyone.
I love sepia and black/white decks. I was considering the Bones of Bonestone Edition but there seems to be a lot of detail missing that can be seen in the colored version. I would have purchased it had it contained the same details even at the high price. The insanity around the original Bonestone deck was such a turnoff. However, time has passed and if a 2nd edition is ever printed at a reasonable price, I will buy it. Thanks for your side-by-side comparison.
Seeing this comparison - I have Tarot of the Abyss and the Sketchbook Edition, since I didn't collect tarots when the original Bonestone and Earthflesh came out - makes me wish Ana Tourian would do a coloured version of Tarot of the Abyss :)
Hello Simon!!! It almost doesn’t seem a fair comparison it’s like 2 different decks I have to admit the color version seems so alive!!! I have original and can’t justify cost for the Bones even tho it’s lovely in its own way it is Ana Tourins artwork after all!!! (Think the Tarot of the Abyss is more my liking then the Bones)
Enjoy your holidays ♥️ 🎄
Thank you, Simon, I liked all of the decks shown on this video.
I love the way you showed the 2 decks alongside each other.
Both versions are packed with symbolism.
Thank you for putting this video together. Happy New Year! ✨
Happy New Year, Anne-Marie! Thanks for watching! 😍
And side note, looking forward to seeing what grimoire you went for in the end, great Xmas gift to yourself. I went for MJ Cullinane’s Grimalkin tarot that’s on reprint at the moment 😍
Oh I haven’t heard of that
@@the_hermits_cave it’s MJ’s much loved cat deck. Full name Grimalkin’s Curious Cat Tarot (and apologies I misspelled MJ’s last name, corrected now).
I bought this deck thinking I might use it with Tarot of the Abyss. I have yet to bring them together, so strange this morning I thought I might use them together this evening and i spotted your walkthrough, Thank you for the side by side. Thank you for sharing 🙂
Serendipity! Love when that happens!
SIMON HI I just Purchased this Deck from MPC it is kinda pricey compared to other decks I've bought from them. But I Love Ana Tourian as a Artist, I'm so in Love with the Tarot of the Abyss deck. I've never bought the Bonestone and Flesh tarot it's a beautiful deck, but I knowing me as a person I don't think I could have waited 3 years plus for a deck to finally be delivered, and because she made so few copies its became so expensive people who have it are afraid to use this Deck. So to me this is next best thing, I have Ana Art work and it is now a wonderful usable Deck Thank you Hugs Caroline 😘❤
I agree with you completely 😍
Hi Simon. Hi fellow tarot tubers. Still feels like Autumn here in North Carolina.
thanks for the walkthrough side by side. Its an interesting new take with the sepia tone. I don't have this don't have the budget. but the cardstock size looks like it might make it an easier one to shuffle with small hands. I'd love the ace of swords image as a tattoo one day. have emailed to enquire about that.
I was fortunate enough to purchase the original Bonestone and Earthflesh deck. I am completely enchanted with it and use it quite often. Some of the beautiful red gilding has chipped but that is just part of the life of a well loved deck. I think the Bones of the Bonestone is lovely but I am not tempted. I really enjoyed your walk through of both decks together. It really showcases Ana Tourian’s incredible artistic gift.
Completely agree, she’s incredibly talented 😍
Thanks Simon! I saw this video popping up awhile ago but was saving it. I first wanted to see the cards in my hand for the Bones deck since I have never seen the original deck. This video is really usefull for people like me who wan't to compare the seepia images to the color version. Your video quality and angle never fail 👌🏻 Happy New Year! Let's hope it's kinder for all of us.
Thank you lovely! Are you happy with the deck?
Wishing you a very happy 2022 😍
@@the_hermits_cave actually yes! I like it better than the original because it has so much soft pastell colors. It's my only monotone deck and that makes it also unique and the riffle 👌🏻 smooth as butter. Sometimes a bit thinner cardstock is just lovely to handle.
I have never opened my copy of my Bonestone. It is sealed in its box. And I have the box it was shipped in as well. I bought it as an investment piece and it’s the only deck I own I’ve never opened.
wow I love both decks , but I actually like the new one better. thanks for sharing
Loved hearing your thoughts on the two decks. I’d love to own both of them, but I missed out on the first one and cannot afford the second one or the secondary market prices for the first one. Oh well, while it’s a disappointment missing out on them I will live.
I only came to know Ana's work this year and so missed the Bonestone, but Tarot of the Abyss and the Oracle of Echoes are a pair that come in my top 10. I am excited both by Tarot of Echoes and Tarot Arturian that she is working on at the moment, but unfortunately cannot afford the sketch Bonestone deck as the price seems rather a lot compared to others. Thanks for doing this walkthrough x
I deleted my last comment because it sounded negative. As a collector... I get it. If you really love an artist and deck we can go places that might not make sense to others. Some People who see my collection think they are all worthless...basically and can't understand why I'd spend $20 on a deck. "Value" is a very personal thing. I'm actually waiting for Ana's next deck, "Tarot of Echos."
I’m so excited for that one! 😍
A lovely slow walkthrough thank you, always enjoy seeing the original, which I don’t own. If I did own it no matter what I’d paid, I’d 🍾 and get chipping at that perfect gilding 😆.
Not really feeling the sketch version at any price. I’m very happy with Tarot of the Abyss and Oracle of Echoes - second edition is fab you gotta nab it Simon! 🎄
Oh okay then, it’ll be my first purchase of 2022.
I love the look of them both🤎
I have now watched approximately 1,000 of those #only10decks videos and every single time someone pulls out that Tarot of the Abyss something pings in me so I guess I need to go ahead and grab it.
I’d say that was a sign! 😆
Wow that colour makes a difference, but I feel like Id have to have both of them if any ; )
I agree, and possibly why I went for it. I feel like I have a working version now.
Looks like Galdalf (Ian McKellen) posed for the Magician card (in the neutral deck). Love it.
I am so disappointed that this deck is so ridiculously expensive on MPC. Had it been published by a publishing house, I could understand it, but MPC... I can't justify that sadly. When I win the lotto maybe lol... OMG €98.65
I understand completely…. I really had to think long and hard about this one.
@@the_hermits_cave I backed the Baroque on KS today. It looks beautiful. I hope the Alleyman meets its next date - end of Feb I believe. Tonights live was good Simon. Most enjoyable.
Hi Simon
Hello Jason
86£ is $146 Cdn and there’s no way I’d pay that for a deck, especially one without anything special like a nice guidebook, gilding etc. Of course the maker can charge what they want, but I’ll be taking a pass at this one.
Fascinating comparison thank you. They don’t look like they are by the same hand to me, I wonder if this one is a copy rather than a preparatory sketch? Is there any information on it. Thank you for introducing me to this artist 🙏🤗
No, no information. Some are clearly a sketch idea that later became a card.
oooh this is a tough one Simon. I love the artist but I sort of squirm a little bit after all the hoo-ha over the original deck. I do think that this is too expensive but I would think that about any MPC deck that cost 80+ quid.... but that's just me.
The Tarot of the Abyss is better than Bonestone IMHO so I'll just stick with that.
Thanks for the video, it was interesting to see the comparison - the sketches are lovely.
Merry Crimbo my lovely 🌲💚🌲
Merry Christmas too me duck! 😍
How much???
I know, I know 😞
A$162 not including postage, without a book, and in a noisy/cheap tin, is way overpriced for the average person. Possibly the creator is in need of cash, but this smacks of being far too greedy imo.
MPC is really great for private projects, and for large scale projects, without a doubt. But, when buying a single deck from the site like this, decks can be/ARE more expensive because that's how small creators choose to price them, and then you have the crazy postage. This one though is through the roof ... exhorbitant. For some perspective, a 100 card deck printing (US Game card size, superior smooth cardstock) is under A$40.
There are so, so many great decks available at the moment for much less, and some soon to be released, that I'm not sure why anyone would throw their money away like this, unless they are a diehard collector.
I also think the original deck is much, much nicer. Maybe a 2nd edition release of that one would have been better.