Switching To Elvanse (Vyvanse) From Concerta (Generic) 💊 First Impressions
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After 3+ years on Concerta/Methylphenidate, I finally threw in the towel and switched to Elvanse Adult (UK Vyvanse). I talk about why I made the switch and my initial observations of the effects of the drug in comparison to Methylphenidate.
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Vyvance made me aggressive. Actually love concerta, it completely relaxes my body. Would have never expected that. All these meds work so differently for everyone.
Vyvanse also did this to me
same but concerta makes me feel depressed.
Thank you this is the exact answer I was looking for as I am also very aggressive and impulsive on vyvance.
Vyvanse chilled me out and made me passive.
It's funny how alot of people say their first medication didnt work, but their second did. no matter which way round it is, elvanse and then concerta, or concerta then elvanse, you dont read of many, elvanse switch to concerta then back to elvanse because the concerta didnt work. Always seems to be first didnt work, second is better
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I like your calm demeanour and I find it helpful to hear how others like yourself are managing w adhd and meds. Part of my struggle is that I am always trying to go off meds and that’s when things don’t go well…
FYI, your content has helped me enormously in gaining awareness around ADHD and I find myself constantly reverting back to your videos as a way of both educating and reassuring myself with issues that I am facing. Thank you so much, and please don't stop posting.... . . great job man, keep it up
Kind of funny how we need reassurance... We carry so much baggage from our childhood from neurotypical people's criticisms and uninformed morality.
@@hellomate639 Well said and exactly the reason why channels like Stuart's are so fundamentally important in educating alike, one of the more common yet perhaps most misunderstood mental health conditions
I was diagnosed this year, at 50. The content in this channel really gets to me, it's so relevant and helpful. Learning about this at such a late age is a weird thing, so many puzzle pieces fall together when I watch his videos. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for making this content. Got something in my eyes.
agreed I'm 31 nd been diagnosed and on meds for 6 months and it's opened a world I never knew these videos especially the one that shows us on a day to day struggle I sent that shit to everyone so they'd truly understand the hardship because I was called many things before I was medicated and now their all eating their words
Just wanted to say as recently diagnosed nube I'm loving your channel, just started Elvanse and it's working well :)
Really appreciate you making these videos. So helpful to hear a level headed normal guy in the same position as me. I've been on concerta a month and was feeling anxious and had some jaw clenching. Another two weeks and I have to option to try Lisdexamphetamine so definitely going to take this video into consideration
I tried adderall at first. My doctor gave me 5mg for the first week. 2 hours after taking my first dose, I was stunned by the fact that my brain wasn't on overdrive. I suddenly became a lot more patient, focus , and legit more understanding towards my wife, friends and family. However, it made me so calm I could nap as many time as I want. I eventually switched to concerta as adderall was making too calm like I was constantly smoking weed. Concerta has vastly improved my social and motivation skills.
this helped cos wanted to know what i should be feeling and what u said about patience and focus and understanding made so much sense but i’m using what he’s using now
@Agy Hernandez that's interesting. I can't drive more than an hour without feeling like I need a break if I'm not on meds. But when I take concerta, I can drive for about 3 hours before getting antsy.
Is that a bad thing?
@Kerry Taylor Concerta is good for studying but if you don’t have ADHD, it won’t help.
Your experience is very interesting. Do you still find Concerta works for you? I've done a lot of searching around and all the stories seem to be people who try Concerta, dislike it and then try Vyvanse or Adderall and find it much more effect (these are mainly adults btw) so it's interesting to finally see someone who tried both and found methylphenidate more effect. I just started Concerta (first ADHD med trial) and find I am a bit too mellow at times but I'm going to give it at least 3 weeks before I made any decision.
cold hands gang here. began my treatment with Vyvanse 2 weeks ago. Great improvements in my ADHD mind. Will follow your channel and comment more thoroughly in the near future. regards from Brazil.
Yo man great video and very glad you are coping better since the switch. I have been taking Elvanse Adult for 4 months now recently being tweeked to 50mg and I agree with you fully! At evening it wears off leaving the feeling of fatigue and helplessness 'down in the dumps' but for the full 10-12 hours anxiety isn't battling my body and thoughts either is it too powerful to control when firstly consuming it. Good luck mate!
Whaoo , thank you so much for sharing your experience! I thought I was alone to feel the same !
Happy to find your channel. I have been on Adderral for 5 years and switch over to Vyvanse (every few months or so) when my meds are less effective. I just got back from the doctor today with a rx for Concerta which I’ll be starting in the morning. I’m in the US.
Great to see you have become a regular content creator mate! Saw you had a few ad hoc videos (the one you mention in this video) also you seemed very unhappy and sad, glad to see you have perked up and found a good balance with the meds. I am also on Elvanse but 70mg
So glad to find this channel! Perfect timing for me. Just been diagnosed at 38 and starting on Elvance. So far great....positives for me so far are if i don't manage to get jobs completed or even started i don't get anxious about it or give myself a hard time which is huge!! Early days (1 week) but i'll update soon 😁
O.k....so it was all going well until the mental health hospital messed up with dates and now i have 5 days without meds ahead. I'm kinda losing all confidence with the nhs mental health. I was promised so much help after my diagnosis but no delivery. Luckily i'm extremely resilient and tent to live by 'focus on the solution, not the problem'. So i'll be fine but I feel bad for others in this situation. Getting help has proved difficult here in Geordie land
Hi can you give me update on Elvance? Has I am on concerta but feeling very anxious and I meant change to Elvance but would like to know what it is like long term. Do you still got the same benefits from it now as you previously did when you started it, and what does it help you with? Thanks
thankyou for the video! very informative! i just stopped concerta a week ago and will start elvanse within the next few days! :)
I'm really considering the switch now, Concerta has changed my life but the aggression i get sometimes can be borderline unmanageable. thank you for making these videos :) it helps a lot.
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I got irritable and aggressive on Concerta too :( just switched to Elvanse.
It's so reassuring to hear other people talk about the same side effects!
I was beginning to think something was wrong with me, having anxiety on all the meds (both methylphenidate and lysdexamphetamin). But I prefer Elvanse to methylphenidate as well :)
Great honesty in your path.
Always good to know, after many years on concerta, , Tolerance is always there.
Why not rotate meds to move forward in happiness &, productivity.
Thanks for post 👍
Hey! I found this really helpful before I started my Elvanse!!! Damn the cold hands though :(
thanks for the video. have been to my neurologist today and she recommended trying out elvanse, because I told her that I became a bit more agitated the last months but was unsure if I should try it out. I've taken concerta for over a decade now, ranging from 3x32mg to today only 32mg and I'm probably now gonna try out elvanse thanks to your video and other articles I read online
I also switched from methylphenidate to Elvanse. I couldn’t take methylphenidate anymore because I made me quiet, anxious and sometimes even tired. When I take Elvanse I feel more confident and focused and awake. Also I forget less and get more stuff done.
The only side effects are less appetite and cold feet.
It helps but I still have my adhd moments. Sometimes I‘m so in my head that it‘s hard to focus at work.
Are you all guys combining medication with proper psicological therapy right?? The latter is more important
@@guayaba21 yes I go to a adhd therapist every 2 weeks
i have no adhd diagnos but have tried all the ADHD medcines. Attentin(adderall) and Elvanse is the best.. I hope they can improve these to be less strain on our bodies. But taking the dose that doctor tells u does slightly to no damage
@@dellananjo4379 lmao its individual-based, and yes, doctor dose does damage you longterm.50mg vyvanse is definitely going to take some years of your life, but if it's worth the trade, why not
I'm going on Elvanse this week and this is so interesting! Thank you
how is it going so far ?
Thank you for your very useful content.
Capsules are quick release while hard packed pills take longer to digest. I think! That’s my guess anyway. Thanks for your channel... my husband was diagnosed this year, he’s 40, and knowing he has adhd and getting on meds has made life much, much better. Your channel was one of the first steps to us understanding what’s been going on.
Just want to clear up some info regarding the alza, Concerta and methylphenidate on general. Methylphenidate is methylphenidate regardless of drug, what varies between different drugs is the release mechanism. Alza uses the exact same patented OROS release mechanism as Concerta, and in fact my prescription that has Concerta written on the bottle in fact has alza written on the pills. As far as other brands go, there is no chemical difference between different methylphenidate prescriptions, but they may release differently which can drastically change their affect on the brain. Hope this helps! I just wouldn't want to see people switching from alza to Concerta expecting to see a difference when they are identical drugs.
I like your videos, very balanced. Thanks again.
Vyvance here in the states does not have a generic, and it is very expensive with insurance covering only a small portion. I use 75mg Wellbutrin, (Bupropion), and 5 mg methylphenidate, both are immediate release, three times a day and 1mg guanfacine, (intuniv) extended release. Intuniv makes you sleepy so it helps you to relax so take it before bed, and it lowers your blood pressure which is good for me because the methylphenidate raised mineI start at the lowest dose 1mg. I have to keep all my medication at a minimum because of side effects. Glad you found something that reduces your side effects.
I'm currently on dexamphetamine instant release, which is basically what the chemical in vyvanse turns into, and it is amazing, the come up is so smooth, and the biggest effect is I just DO things. and often find myself enjoying things I would previously find unbearably boring, I still dislike it, but its now tolerable.
Trying Elvanse on Friday after being diagnosed with ADD and I'm really excited to see the results. Thanks for the informative video!
How was it?
Update ?
@@SharlenesJourney I'm still on them and my experience has been good for the most part. I got quite a lot of the common side effects at larger doses (lost appetite, feeling jittery/restless, trouble falling asleep at night and crashing in the afternoon). But now I'm on 20mg at 7am and another 20mg around 12pm which is working great. I have more energy and a lot of things I used to have trouble doing are easier to get done now (cleaning, paying bills etc), so I'd say my life has definitely improved on Elvanse. Let me know if you have any questions!
I have just discovered your channel after two months of using Methylphenidate (firstly, the extended release and then the instant release.) I found it does little to nothing for me, and I have just been prescribed Elvanse which I start on Thursday. Thank you for the review, I will be checking out more of your videos. Nice to see reviews and feedback from this side of the water as I find a lot of people are from America/etc - not that there is anything wrong with their advice but there are definitely a lower number of relatable experiences here in the UK.
How did you get on with the Elvanse brother? Give us a wee update lol
Just a quick reply for now, but Elvanse literally changed my life.
Methylphenidate did nothing for me, which is not a fault of the meds - it just wasn’t for me! Some report that it is fantastic but for me it did nothing. Elvanse/dex worked wonders. I’m the person I always should have been. Next to no side effects for me, I take with L-theanine which reduces any anxiety. Fantastic. Persevere if the meds aren’t working for you.
@@addmmss Cool. I'll be starting meds soon and I'm leaning more towards that one too from what I've researched and what others have said. That's great it's changed your life man, that's what I'm hoping for too. Thanks for the update!
Thanks for the feedback! My therapist suggested I ask for Elvanse as a first trial as I am quite sensitive to drugs & generally everything haha. I have tried concerta some times but not offically. I noticed some anxiety despite the focus, with much worsened symptoms with a heavy heartbeat at 36mg dose.
I was diagnosed with anxiety and depression a couple of years before being diagnosed with ADHD so I was already taking an anti anxiety medication (Viibryd) so I when I was prescribed Vyvanse (Canada) I never had the come down in the evening compared to my husband who also has it 🙈 he went onto take another medication for his anxiety and since then doesn’t get the same come down either.
I have found it helpful to take short tolerance breaks from my med on weekends per doctor's orders. That way, it keeps working when I really need it.
my dr also told e to do this! I just switched today to vyvanse we'll see !!
Glad the Elvanse is working for you!
It's amazing!
@@ADHDMastery better than Concerta? You have any experience with adderall? I've only tried 18mg of concerta. I feel like it helps but I don't feel 100% focused
About the feeling when elvanse starts to wear off: I kinda feel it's about how you get so positive boost from it and the mind works so smoothly and when it starts to wear off, the feeling starts to go bit blurry (since it's bit working that much anymire) but it still works and if you try to use your thoughts etc. The same way when it was clear, it can also make you bit dissociated, so it might be good idea to get some rest. Oh, and drink much more water and eat well.
It is also very good idea to take some natural ingredients which contains 5-htp and that kind of stuff for couple of weeks BEFORE starting to use it since with low serotonin levels it might cause anxiety and if you use it for longer time, you might feel that something is off.
Anyways this is my "just before going to sleep-pondering."
Also, good video! I got an idea of searching videos with word "elvanse" and I chose this one.
I have recently started taking methylphenidate, it does help me focus more I can get more done and it slows my crazy mine down a lot. BUT after 3 hours I’m so anxious, feel so flat and really on edge! So I’m starting to wonder if stimulates are right for me. Maybe I shouldn’t ask the dr to try these ones! Thank you for your videos
I have the exact same experience with Ritalin (also methylphenidate, once a day formula), it wore off and became ineffective after roughly 8 years. I'm now on Aduvanz, which is the same as Elvanse (Lisdexamphetamine). It works wonders for me, and I barely daydream like I used to (main cause of procrastination for me). I finally get things done!🎉
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In case it helps: I used to take 30mg and was having comedowns with cold hands after 5 hours. Since i switched to 50mg instead, I don't get the cold hands anymore and the come-down is more manageable, more smooth. This is why correct dose is important. Sometimes little dose can mean incorrect dose, therefore more side-effects. Cheers
I take 30mg at 30years old. When I was young I took all kinds of adhd trials from patches, Adderall, vyvanse, etc.. I was all the way up to 70mg and abused it in a way. Each person has difference in tolerance, side effects, etc.. I know some people do 30mg vyvanse and during busy work days they take a booster like Ritalin. I have to take 3-5 days off vyvanse every 3 weeks to ensure I'm not dependant and such on it. And it has helped me a lot.
Oh wow thanks for this, I just started with Elvanse and it’s being perfect, but the come down is a bit weird on some days (cold hands and feet, get really apathetic, headaches, etc), didn’t even consider my dosage could be a bit lower than it should
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That's so crazy, ice started on Vysanse and thought the jitters would get worse on high doses - but I'm happy to see what dosages could actually work for me!
Thanks for taking the time to make these videos, you are a great help and inspiration.
ADHD Medication helpful tips: Keep your blood pressure low! (this is so important, not many people discuss this).
The most effective ADHD medications are stimulants, so it will raise your blood pressure, your psychiatrist will monitor your blood pressure, but YOU MUST regulate it too!
low sugar, low salt, regular exercise, eat well (make sure you hit all the vits and mins, get calcium and potassium) , cut out coffee (caffeine, its a stimulant too), a magnesium supplement is helpful too (it relaxes artery walls, and it also makes you feel calm and less anxious).
They say high blood pressure is a silent killer, well I can honestly say that I notice things are off in my body when my blood pressure is high.
The main causes of high blood pressure are smoking, drinking alcohol and getting stressed, angry and upset ... so you are going to have to manage those too.
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@@andrianapotek7228 dark chocolate is caffeine haha
I watched this video for exactly this reason. I've just been diagnosed and my meds raise my blood pressure so much, now I'm looking for alternatives :(
thanks for the advice! :) my blood pressure is normally too low, so the meds push it to a "normal" level haha :D still, I really have to monitor my life style more, it's not healthy
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Thank you for this, I was considering Ritalin, and looking at your videos, I do not believe that would have worked well for me at all. I am already emotional enough, haha. ;)
That's the thing with drugs is it is trial and error as everyone responds differently to these drugs, some people swear by concerta, others not so much... It really is how each individuals body and brain responds. Great vid as usual though.
So concerta is the reason for jaw cracking, I was wondering why I started the jaw cracking. It's really annoying. Never in my earlier teens and early adult age I never cracked my kneck or jaw. I thought it was me. So annoying 😤 , thank you for the video.
There is a significant difference between brands. I was on generica first but effect and side effect were bad. Changed to the original, concerta and felt much better. Cheers.
Good video. Have been on concerta for 8 years and works for me. We all have different experiences. Please consider a different background audio though for future videos as the “thud-thud” made getting through your video difficult. Thanks for sharing your opinion and experience though. Appreciated. 👍👍
Yes, with different brands of fast acting methylphenidate, the medicine and the dose are the same, but the additives and exact shape and how hard they press them are not the same. Actual ritalin has a bit of oil in the tablets to spread absorbtion a bit, which is not done with generics because it tends to muck up the machines. So, I soak my tablets in olive oil for an hour. I usually do a whole box at a time and then put them in kitchen paper for another hour. With concerta it's even more so. Concerta has this specially engeneered tablets with a thin channel filled with the medicine to make sure you get the same dose during many hours. Generics just use something like sugar to slow down digestion, but it'snot going to be as precise.
Exactly! Vyvance is way better! I got the same side effects when i used to take Concerta. Are you taking any Alprazolam medication while ur under Vyvance?
went from 20mg dexamphetamine to 40mg vyvanse and the change is awesome. no big ups or downs just constant focus, mental clarity and energy.
just have to remember to eat.
For anyone that cannot take any kind of stimulant, including a non stimulant straterra. Prozac is an antidepressant that helps with co existing and existing problems with adhd and also has no negative affect on adhd so many clinics opt for Prozac because of that reason. Mostly all antidepressants aggravate and cause inconsistent changes so if you ever have to take the antidepressant route my two non stimulant would be brupopion or Prozac. I have reynauds phenomenon so I can’t take anything that constricts blood vessels, I am on a very hard path with adhd, depression, anxiety, along with reynauds phenomenon. So it’s not a good time but I research every day to help people that don’t know what is best for them or people that need help in general. Very grateful for this channel and hope this helps. Ps….Prozac has a black label which means it is possible to have suicidal thoughts for the first few days but it never happened to me I took it for years on and off.
Finally someone with the rare cold hands symptom. What do you do for it? What does your DR. Say? I’m going back on concerts from vyvanse. I think the “12” hr length extended the cold feeling and it was overwhelming.
Not much you can do, but with time tolerance should diminish it.
Gloves lol
I was on JornayPM for about a month and had no effects at all except that if I skipped it, I was extremely hungry, despite never having any eating or appetite issues throughout my life. I was on Vyvanse in the past but stopped taking it because I was on other medication for seizures and migraines. Starting tomorrow I’m on Vyvanse again. 👍
I take vyvanse and I agree completely! Way smoother but I do crash emotionally at the end of the day. I recommend taking l theanine to combat it- it’s helped so much with my anxiety in general tbh
Yeah I do this now!
L thianine works great. I take 30mg but I think the crash is just a dopamine thing. I usually take no caffeine, take breaks from vyvanse about 3-5 days to let my brain "reset". Take it same time in mornings. And on bad days I have a dark chocolate bar and that really boost my mood at end of the day!
@@wowitsruss I found taking breaks helps a lot. Really looking forward to 2023 when their patent expire. Price is ridiculous but it’s superior compared to other adhd medications. I’ll have to try L thianine.
Thanks for the tip. Never heard of L theanine. Just read about it & will be purchasing. Thanks again!
Do u take l Theanine at the same time as vyvanse
i had the same switch and elvanse is making my life better
3 years later, are you still on elvanse and is it still doing you good like in the beginning?
@@kristianalexanderpedersen7382 im not on elvanse anymore and will never take medications again. they caused my mental state to deteriorate
My first intake of Concerta 27 mg at age 45. Passed an hour since I took the first pill, when I started to feel like I was queuing to get into a Rave concert ... that night like I was coming from the Rave concert plus two drinks and ten coffees... Here in Spain it is still very rare to get a diagnosis in adults, I got an appointment with a great adult specialist. She told me that in Spain Concerta is the first option by obligation (price factor, I am sure), in a month I will change to Elvanse, she said that it would be for me much better (I have a lot of anxiety). So I'll wait a month and talk about the change here. 🤗
@AMP Dama hi! I switched to elvanse nearly a month. The truth is only the first days of concerta I noticed that first high, next days it was unnoticeable. But as you said, I started to feel quite anxious so many times, first at the end of the day and days later a few hours from taking the pill, but my doc did not relate to concerta. I was noticing that maybe I needed more dose, and sometimes I took two pills instead of one and I started to feeling better. I don't know, maybe the body quickly gets used to the dose and creates some dependency. I had not realized it until I read your question, but with elvanse I do not notice any anxiety, so yes, it must have been a concerta cause related.
@@LNA444 hola soy de España,y diagnosticado hace poco,estoy en esa eterna búsqueda,y viendo con que quedarme y con que no.
Podríamos hablar por correo,por aquí o como tu desees?,me ayudaría mucho,se que es complicado hablar con un desconocido...te lo agradezceria un montón.Un saludo
I'm very interested in switching to Vyvanse. I've been on concerta for almost a month and it's helped for sure but I've also noticed that it feels like my heart is beating uncomfortably fast. In a way that is distracting. I also feel like the concerta is "quick" when my body first starts processing it and it feels like I feel it peaks more intensely (not euphoric though, more like I feel like I'm running) so I'm interested to try the "smoother" feeling of vyvanse.
I use 30mg which is lowest dosage and it works great. I don't even notice I'm on it or feel any different in a way. However, I'm able to to focus on single task and not have a clustered mind. Only thing is you need to take it same time in mornings it last a long time. It can be hard to sleep for some people. However, caffeine is not good with vyvanse either it can really mess your heart rate(anxiety) and can cause sleeplessness.
Hey amanda! I realize its been 8 months so I'm wondering if you've made the switch and if you've noticed any changes? I had to drop concerta because I was experiencing more severe versions of exactly what you described in them, and Ive been advised Vyvanse by a doctor but I'm weary of trying new drugs. I'd love to hear your testimony!
Ofcourse it's not good for the heart. Like all stimulant drugs they are bad for the heart.
@@niedude yes I switched to vyvanse and I’ve had a lot of success with it!
@@AmandaMustapha thank you for answering!
I will start evanse tomorrow. It’s my first ADHD medication but I’ve been struggling with it for a while now and since those antidepressants did not work my doctor prescribed me these. Not going to lie I am sort of terrified. Especially after the people in the pharmacy were so weird about this. Bur I also am excited because I have a lot of hope to get better with this
@@zonnebloem100 Quite well. I am now using a higher dosage then I started with 30mg to 50mg. The main thing I struggle with right now is getting super tired in the afternoon when it stops working. But otherwise I feel like it is easier for me to do regular tasks more consistent. My head is also quieter most of the time and my thoughts only really start racing when I get anxious. I don’t know what you struggle with, but for me I was hoping for it to help with my depression since ADHD can play a part in developing a depression. I think that I went in it with way too high expectations. Obviously it did not cure me or anything, but it helps me to get out of bed in the morning and leave the house at least once a day which is something that I have struggled with a lot before.
Thanks for the info- how did concerta affect your sleep by chance?
I think the difference between Xenidate and Concerta is the release mechanism, not the chemical structure. Concerta is an osmotic tablet meaning it uses water to push the medication out of the tablet. I can't find much on Xenidate but it's not an osmotic tablet.
I've been prescribed Xaggitin XL®. I think they are using this in replacement for concerta as it's cheaper
I had a similar experience when I was on 18mg of Delmosart which is a generic version of Methylphenidate. Had some better concentration but definitely felt myself become more agitated. However, with taking Concerta XL 36mg, I felt the positive effects and haven't experienced the negative agitation that I experienced with Delmosart even though they are both Methylphenidate. Once the shortage of Vyvance in the UK is sorted I'd like to try that and see what it is like for me.
I just started Vyvanse and on the first day I had no issues, was able to focus and get stuff done without my brain moving onto 50 different things. However on the next 3 days I experienced chest pains in the center of my sternum. It comes and goes but it only lasts for maybe 3 seconds.
Hey, thank you so much for your videos. I was resently diagnosed with add and have tried ritalin that makes me quite sick and now vyvanse of aduvanz which is the same. I am now up to 50 mg vyvanse and I have very good effects, much easier to start tasks and fulfill, but I cannot consentrate still. I was wondering at what dose did you notise being concentrated? Because there is a possibility for me that the lack of concentration is due to trauma complex ptsd and we are still trying to figure out which it is. Should I have had difference in concentration by 50 mg? Thank you in advance!
I'm in my 60's and was diagnosed a few years ago but changed to Elvanse fairly quickly because I had light palpitations with the Concerta. I felt it was telling me something. Main Elvanse side effect is the teeth grinding
Vyvanse made me feel like a zombie... hyper focused on a indie Tarot deck I was obsessed with. And I found it !
I couldn’t sleep, I was not hungry at all.
Same as me.. I've just been switched to Concerta..have you been switched to anything different?
Noticed the same effects in my son. Concerta had quite a bad effect on his moods and eventually he had to quit because he was just getting depressed with it. Elvanse on the other hand has not caused anything near as bad. He does seem to be moodier in the late afternoon and his appetite isn’t that great but overall it’s been much better than methylphenidate
I'm taking Ritalin twice a day 10mg and I start to feel really depressed when it starts to wear off. This is due to the dopamine being used up that would be your allowance that your body would give you for the day. Also I build up a really quick tolerance after only 3 weeks of being on it.
Are you able to focus? How long? I still watch at video s
How long was your focus? What was alternate you chose?
2:53 I like it when you say "come up", makes me think of just taking street drugs 😆 I used to get the jaw clench a bit.
About to see how Vyvanse does tomorrow on my first dose 40mg, but I noticed Concerta (brand, which alza actually is, at least in the US) was just not making a visible difference in focus or anything, a bit toooo gradual for what I been looking for. But, Generic Concerta gave me really bad mood swings. Concerta is one of the few medications where Generic vs Brand makes a HUGE difference. Switching from 36mg of the brand Concerta. Hoping for the best 👍
I, too, made the switch from Concerta to Elvanse and, although expensive (£65) for a 28 day supply, I find it to be a much better option. The anxiety on Concerta was awful.
Are you receiving private treatment if you're paying for it in the UK?
@@ADHDMastery yes. There was a 12 month waiting list to see a psychiatrist so I went private. I have to be under the psychiatrist until he can be sure I am on the correct dose, which he can then sign off to be managed by my GP - who, incidentally, seems reluctant to do this: I don't know why this is - whether they have to pick up the difference out of their budget or whatever, one can only speculate.
@@garylewis6657 Right. I don't blame you to be honest.
Also getting the anxiety with methylphenidate, how do you get the psychiatrist to switch you? Thanks
@@garylewis6657 Did you get this resolved? My GP said it wouldn't be an issue to switch. There is a 2-3 year waiting list now.
I took my first try of vivance today and i felt the exact same thing at the end of the day
If i take Concerta im ok, i get things going and follow my routine with a bit of my personal effort, i build every piece and step of my development, and in any moment there is fun. Now with Vyvanse(Venvanse here in Brazil) i do feel a come up and a rush, the stuff pushes me to do my things and my development is carried by the drug; and as it comes with a rush there will be a crash. Odd things about Vyvanse that for me is great, it automaticaly gets me out of bed like onde minute before the alarm ring
Interesting.
I started from Elvanse (Lisdexamfetamine) 3 weeks ago first and I liked it because it helped me do thing I couldn't focus on before, but the come-down was horrible and made me suesidle, sleepy in the afternoons and very anxious and irritable.
Conserta is more stable for me at the moment but it's only been few days on 18mgs. But it also makes me a bit melancholic and depressive, And really sleepless nights.
When I first took Vyvanse, I almost wanted to cry because I was so happy and felt like I was finally awake. It almost felt like I was not aware of anything in my entire life. Then in 2021 April, I had a hair transplant. This is not a joke; ever since I had the surgery, I can never feel any stimulants like before.
Did you lose hair from Vyvanse
@@BeeLayzTv I did not lose hair from Vyvanse. However, since it suppresses your appetite, you might have a nutritional deficiency which could eventually make you lose your hair.
Hey Stuart, thanks again for uploading all these helpful videos, im curious to know if the elvanse is still working? I tried it after tring concerta and was really sensitive to it, i even divided a 20mg table into 4 and took 5 mg of it and it still was awful. was really nervous and had a constant twiching in my eye. Im back on Concerta, 18mg seems to be the dose for me ,
from the research i have done, you should not be getting euphoria at all on these drugs, its a big sign of too higher dose, you need to feel it in the backround , but every 'high' has a low. nI have also read that these meds work a lot better if you have a heavy protein breakfast in the morning. It seems to be a common mistake to think these medications are not working because you dont feel the euphoria and keep upping the dose, which can burn out you dopamine receptors.
Thanks for sharing
I'm currently on Ritalin and Focalin (Dexmethylphenidat). I've switched therapists now and the new therapist said he'll probably prescribe me Evanse (German name for Vyvanse). But he has to diagnose me properly first (my last therapist only went by things I said and my history). I got a last "load" of my old meds today to carry me over until then. I'm looking for work right now and would hate to have to start a new job with no medical treatment for my ADD... The new shrink won't give me Ritalin because he says the potential for abuse is too high and the "peak" and "come down" are too extreme. He won't give me Focalin because apparently it's only prescribed to kids :-D
I just hope that the "come down" and "peak" of Evanse isn't as bad as with Ritalin. It feels really "aggressive" at the "peak" and when I "come down" from it I feel like my ADD is way worse. Also, I get really tired if I spread it out all day. I worked a job where I would be at the work place 12 hours a day (with a 1.5 lunch break, but I lived too far away to get home in between) and still have to do mentally challenging work (at least for me) at the end of it. I felt totally drained afterwards.
hey! thank you so much for your helpful videos. elvanse is also a stimulant?
It’s also a stimulant. It’s in the amphetamine class of pharmaceuticals along with Dexedrine & Adderall.
@@maenad1231 thank you so much! :)
If you don’t have adhd it’ll make u feel like you’re on speed, I don’t have adhd, and one pill keep me awake a whole day. Not healthy i know.
Tried Elvanse 20, 30 and 50. Got very little effect from it at all! There are stats I’ve seen online that 50% of folks have an equal experience with symptom reduction on either Elvanse or Concerta, 25% have much better reduction with Concerta, 25% with Elvanse.
Am thinking I’m in the 25% of people who need to switch FROM Elvanse to Concerta (or other methylphenidate based med).
Good luck on your med journey! Definitely recommend educating yourself on your options and assessing your progress then talking with your psychiatrist to ensure you’re getting the best possible outcome for the lowest level of side effects.
The tablet is different! The brand concerta uses OROS (special tablet with a miniscule hole at the top with layers of powder inside and a coating that dissolves).
How do you think it will affect you in the long term with regards to tolerance? I currently take 30mg Elvanse (have been for 6 months) and recently I’ve seen a decline in its efficacy. I’ve taken short breaks before and they tend to help for the first few days but then when resuming taking it every day it seems to wear off. I’m more concerned about upping dosage and becoming tolerant etc etc. What were your experiences with Concerta and targeting tolerance? Love the vids by the way !
To be honest, I'm not sure. I think it's pretty inevitable with all medications and so the only thing we can do is either take 'drug holidays' (extended breaks), increase dosage, or switch medications entirely. I talk about tolerance in this video: ruclips.net/video/BXX05SVPOMU/видео.html
You really need to find the right dosage. 30mg is a starting dose, it's likely it just isn't the optimal dose for you. Once you do find your optimal dose, the effects will always be consistent (assuming you're getting adequate enough protein and water throughout the day). Diet for medication efficacy is essential!
Thanks bro
i'm hoping to be able to switch to Xenidate or elvanse from concerta because my anxiety and feelings of tenseness are making it pretty uncomfortable to take for me
Was on Elvanse for 2 months...was on 30 and felt nothing..upped it to 40mg and I felt much worse and it was terrible.
Just been switched to Concerta..getting it first bottle tomorrow
As a pharmacologist I can tell you the difference lays in the formulation (excipients and extended release method: OROS, pH sensitive release,...) every person possess differents polymorphisms this means the person express different enzymes in different quantities so the pharmacokinetics can change a little from a formulation to formulation even being the same active pharmaceutical ingredient.
Thanks for explaining that
Did you, or anyone here with similar experience, notice a difference in appetite or maybe just that you can and want to eat more? Because I have problems with both anxiety I can't explain and that I tend to just skip meals, often without noticing.
I'm making a change to elvanse soon so I'm pretty excited but stressed expecting little change for the better.
Doc first gave me vyvanse, worst headache and stomach ache i dont know why, switched to concerta and was at 36 for a year now at 54 and it helps but they dont do as much now and i feel like i should switch to adderall. I only take concerta at school, not on weekends or breaks. The focused feeling isnt as strong anymore but the lack of hunger is still pretty strong, and if i didnt smoke i dont think id be able to take it for long periods of time
I’m not sure about concerta (Methylphenidate Hydrochloride) but Elvanse (Lisdexamphetamine) is taken, and absorbed by your body, it only becomes active when metabolised into dextroamphetamine which is the active ingredient… soo what is cool is your body is the slow release mechanism that feeds your body over approximately 10 hours. I don’t have any negative side effects from the Elvanse however I have noticed a tolerance. I take my medication over two doses as my work day is 13hours long. But I can notice the change instantly and look at a clock and it is roughly 10hours after I took the first dose! Incredible stuff however once you take an ADHD medication you realise what normal living is and then you’re reliant as you can no longer cope under the same normality as previous, just my experience anyways!
Have you ever tried Ritalin LA? Slow release versions are usually better in general imho
Concerta has been horrific for me i started on adhd meds in October upped to 56mg and it's been so bad I've had to stop the anxiety is debilitating!! I had zero motivation, teary and depressed I didn't want to move all day and wanted to sleep! I am seeing my Dr Thursday and having new meds which I think will be elvanse!
Amy x maybe 56mg is too much for you.
@bennet alex 2 years. From refferal nearly.
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Concerta with Guanfacine is good combo to feel relaxed and motivated.
Bro I just started on concerta and I feel like it makes me sleepy. Have you had this issue?
@@kevinrodriguez7035 yes I get drowsy to idk why do u ?
I tried concerts as well I think I’m going to try vyvanse and see how it goes becaeu I did have concerta and it did give me anxiety and I had to drink a like a Mexican type of pill for my anxiety it did help me with my anxiety the Mexican pill but not the concerta
I used to take Vyvanse (lisdexamfetamine) since 12 until start of 2021 when it started to make me vomit, so my doctor switched me to concerta (methylphenidate) which has been very good for me. I'm really enjoying your videos. Keep it up. ^^
Vyvance is the best! Just be careful with coffee, keep hydrated and enjoy your life! :)
2 years later, are you still on elvanse and is it still doing you good like in the beginning? How long have you used it for?
I use Elvanse since 3 months now, even on the weekend and between 40 and 50 mg. Before that I used Concerta for 9 months but I prefer Elvanse over Concerta.
Why? Elaborate, please.
I got a ton of anxiety from adderall qr. I also was taking 15 mg and it would only last me 30 mins so I was later prescribed as needed. I would often take 6 15 mg adderall throughout the day and it gave me high bp. I started methalphanatate 20 mg at first and i felt calm and focused but it only lasted me about 30 mins. I was put on methalphanatate xr 20 mg and i didnt feel anything at all. I even took 2 xr 20 mg pills and didnt feel anything. I finally got prescribed 54 mg xr and its felt nice. Lasts me bout 7 hours. My fear is I metabolize it fast and Im hoping I don't adjust to the 54 mgs to just 30 mins like all other adhd meds I've taken.
for some reason those medications are prohibited in Some countries, Quit harsh. Jordan, gulf council countries, you can go to jail in Japan if they found it on you ... pretty strange world Luckly I got the prescription for Vyvanse in Canada, I can say that I am more focused, alert, sometimes happier on it and generally more energetic.though i don't take the pill daily, generally when I know am about to have a long day ( work or social wise) I haven't got the chance to try the other brands you talking about, but it feels to me the Vyvanse is top in the market with the lease side effects.
Your videos are so helpful. I’m on 50mg elvanse at the moment and the anxiety is awful but it’s helped me so much otherwise. Calm mind, productive, less angry/irritable and can actually hold conversations now. Maybe I need down to 40mg, I dunno the anxiety is Unbearable currently 😔
How can you have a calm mind and unbearable anxiety? That makes absolutely no sense
@@l21n18 tell me about it. My mind is calm, no racing unfinished thoughts jumping over eachother to get my attention. It’s the physical feeling of anxiety, like a heavy weight on your chest…not the thought side of anxiety if you get what I mean. Anxiety is a very common side effect of Elvanse.
Crickey been trying for a year was on elvance 56 mg blue ones didn't do much 4 months ago want on xenidate but still stressed so was wondering if amotoxetine would work for me wonder if could stay on xenidate till amotoxetine kicks in
so i also took concerta 36mg in the Morning and 18mg at 1p.m I always got a low in the afternoon, which made me completely socially restricted. I hope elvanse works better
How did Elvanse work for you?
Btw the pills with "alza" on are the brand name Concerta not generic. those solid tablets are not technically Concerta, methylphenidate sure, but Concerta is a very specific delivery system (the osmotic pump)
Alza no longer produces the authorized generic of concerta. The company Patriot does.
@@NotSoNormal1987 Okay, well mine are brand name Concerta (generic name is methylphenidate not Concerta) and have alza written on them.
vyvanse takes away my anxiety. When it wears off, you can feel sad and depressed…it is a much smoother ride, that is why it is a lot less likely to be abused…unlike other ADHD meds