Hey Alec, i work in a machining shop in Grand Rapids Michigan, we could machine you a new one for basically nothing and send it out to you, you pay for shipping and I'll make it up so long as you can provide a Cad file for me
Holy heck! What is going on with the used equipment you've bought since coming to America? Ice never met anyone who's had this much trouble with literally every single piece of used machinery they've purchased. Okay, granted the mill got dumped in transit. But still! By the way, I got my brand new 3.5lbs squared circle rounding hammer yesterday! All I can say is it is totally worth the almost 3 years I've tried to get in on one of your hammer orders. The price was beyond fair. The shipping was cheap and fast. It's Ethan Hardy forging them right? Just a fantastic piece of work bordering on art. People, get on the waiting list and set aside the money. You won't regret it. Alec stands behind his stuff 100% and the quality is so far beyond any machined hammer I can't even describe the difference. Thank you Alec!
Pretty sure the mountain passes you go over to get there put a LOT of stress on the housings and moving mounts. All that equipment was intended to stay flat and fixed. You put the stresses of an incline and road vibration on them and things go bad.
@@glenjamindle why would he want them? its gonna cost him way more to buy the thing, get it to the workshop and fix the problems with it than he will ever make back from people buying merch.
Knew a guy who would use a drill with I think a screwdriver bit to scratch his head a few times while I was around. They were the tech person at my high school. Really nice person but strange as anything.
I love watching Alec fix machinery. Something about breaking down a bodge job and doing it properly is enormously satisfying. It feels like you're putting the world right again.
Russell Thorburn thats the whole point in theory it is worth 10s of thousands fixed, but he bought it used and broken, 2 reasons he doesnt seem upset like someone that lost 20k+, also he gets content.
I love watching you guys forge. But honestly, I think watching you figure out issues is even better. It's truly amazing to see you keep a great attitude, keep making jokes (Will's perch...) and persevere until you have a workable solution, and then to do it. You are an inspiration, especially to younger people, to work hard and never give up. Keep up the amazing work guys!!
So, I'd be pissed if I spent tens of thousands of dollars on a "ready to roll" machine, only to receive it completely broken and non-functioning. I take it you contacted the people you purchased it from? Seems as though it might have been a shop going out of business, however, so maybe it was dissolved and there's no one left to blame the issue on? Was it damaged in shipping? As we know from previous shipments of machines, that does happen. Seriously, though, I'd be really pissed off.
@@ac.creations Well here is the thing, just because there is rust does not mean that it was not done in shipping, cast metal rusts incredibly fast, hell even unprotected mild steal can rust in a matter of hours if unprotected, in this case it is cast iron that will rust over night and more so if there is moisture in the air.
@@ac.creations I would still guess it was broken after sale. These big machines do not need much of a drop for big parts to break and bend. While moving this machine, somebody dropped it. Plain and simple. It may have only been from a few inches up. The rust likely happened on the fresh metal in the days or weeks that followed. That is truthfully the only way for that damage to happen.
ALEC: Just wondering; do you intend marking this one down to experience or are you going to do something about being ripped off for "tens of thousands"? You have a cool attitude(in every sense of the word "cool") but, either the haulier or the seller is to blame for the damage. By all means; fix it yourself(you do have a metal shop, after all) but send someone the bill. I'm not a big fan of today's "sue someone for EVERYTHING" culture but you're down a lot of money on this one.
@@jason00121 It should still be "as described" and fit for purpose. From what's been said since, it would appear that the seller did cover the cost of repairs. I may have picked that up wrongly of course.
A 70 plus year old machine is a crap shoot, even after rebuilding. These things are an adventure and the mechanical issues are an aggravating game of whack a mole. Impact machinery tends to be self destructive, that is just par for the course. Air hammers get expensive and big ones especially so. You could have bought this hammer new up until 2001. I dont think they had sold one since the early 50s. The pricetag when CECO closed for a hammer like this was north of $200k. They bring premium prices, and the one piece models especially. I have seen a few of these over the years and can't recall seeing, even a trashed chambersburg under $20,000.
@@jonivanroost1 Nah it is just a normal trackpad nothing special about it what it is is that you are USED TO it, when you are used to a mouse that most often has a different movement pattern for the same movement it is harder to do. Same as you using my mouse will not feel right for you and will most likely not work well for you. (As i seem to be using higher dpi than most people). Do not confuse Brand from just something you are used to.
I love fixing and dissecting old workhorse machines for this exact reason. It's just amazing how you can piece together the thought process of the person before you!
I was having my dad take a look at this video, because he's in the motion control industry. I was hoping he would be able to direct you in the motor department. He did say that they stopped making 1 1/2" shaft motors of that size, because they broke the shafts easily. Most importantly though! The play in the sleeve of the gear is intentionally put there. He didn't specify as to why, but if I were to guess... It's to cushion the initial shock of the gears engaging. The guy who runs the RUclips channel AvE may have some knowledge about these things too! Good luck!
Don't be so sad guys. Some of my favorite videos of yours were when you were refurbishing all your machines back in England. It's cool to see how they work.
I'm not sure if you being entertaining resolves disappointment from spending 10s of thousands of dollars on a machine promised to work that now has to be electronically refurbished. I enjoy these videos too, it's just a very disappointing and costly ordeal for them to make these kinds of videos.
Blair Snurtburgler nah he probably bought it for a couple grand to get channel content, the cracks have rusted over, he doesnt seem mad like someone out 20k mainly just said that for drama and entertainment.
Unfortunately that would mess up the spacing and alignment of the motor gears, and wear it out. So we can't rubber mount the motor on this hammer without doing a belt-conversion or adding a stub-shaft with bearings to couple the motor to.
Jea he got hustled hard. Just look at all the rust inside the crack at 0:24 . And on other cracks you can make it out also. The brakes could not have come form shipping.
Your videos are always so optimistic! Taking a situation that didn’t go as you planned, where more money will be spent, and making it a learning lesson! Very nice to see these things!
I stopped watching for a while and man is it so awesome to see how Alec's shop has transformed from dirt floors to one of the coolest shops i've ever seen!!!
As much as it SUCKS that your beautiful power hammer broke, I love this content. You should do a full visual refurb of the hammer! Wire it clean to bare metal while you wait for the motor to arrive, it would look so sick
Bro.... you make what would seem “boring”.... in to something exciting. I’ve always been fascinated by smithing so I love your stuff. But the problem solving, and brain storming, etc etc. love it brother. Can’t wait to see what happens with the new toy :)
crazy, that even such huge machines have those epoxy-paper gears i just know them from 12V motor gears there, they supposed to be as a "has to break"-piece if the gear or the stuff behind the gear gets stuck so....maybe, you should also look for this gear itself too
@@ConLeche29 lemon law on a used car lol who told you that? Lemon law applies for new vehicles and forces the manufacturer to buy it back. No such protection for used cars. They are all considered as is. Of course you can sue them but good luck in litigation.
@@_r-a-f_ Nope. Completely wrong. If you go to a dealer and he's selling a used car, it doesn't mean it's a free for all and they can sell you something and not have to meet it's sold as claims. If they say it had a brand new engine put in, and it didn't. Fraud. If they say that the interior was just upholstered with new leather, and its old cracked leather. Fraud. If the seller said that it was in 100% working condition, he most certainly can file suit. If that were the case, people would be online selling broke junk and no one would have recourse. (See how dumb that sounds?) Whether something is new or used, it does not matter, it must be as advertised. The guy talking about a lemon law on used cars is wrong, but don't try to tell him he's wrong, with more wrong information.
@@xenonram dealer is not a private seller. We are talking about liability in transaction from private seller. There's a reason why you need a dealers license to sell. You are considered a commercial seller. If you buy a car from a PRIVATE party all bets are off
@@bronchiosaurus2766 I certainly would hope so. After that lathe debacle, you would think Alex would have like some new form of PTSD (Post Traumatic Shipping Disorder).
@@TexDrinkwater Yep, Abom79 did a TON of work with big gearboxes and shafts when he was at Motion, it'd be worth picking his brain for a half hour or so.
They should have the shims available that pop in the back of the groove of the bushing; press the first broach with no shim, then with one, add another, etc till you reach the desired depth of keyway.
I have followed you for sometime now. I watch every video you do, regardless the subject matter. I was puzzled by that, usually I am very selective about subject matter. Then it dawn on me, things break, things don’t go as planned, and sometimes we just don’t have any experience with what we are dealing with. You have never let that slow you down, or stop you. I appreciate your “Can Do” attitude. Sometimes we do not get it right the first time, or the seventh time. You have helped me develop a “if there is a will, there is a way attitude”. Thank you. A loyal 69 year old follower, and a beginning blade smith.
I really enjoyed this video particularly because of the creative problem solving and using the mill and your noggin to make the replacement insert and sleeve. Thanks for sharing the whole process!
I worked at a steel mill in Pittsburgh when I was a younger and we would put steel plugs into liquid nitrogen for a few minutes and then hammer the plug into the ends of enormous steel rolls (for rolling out stainless steel into thin sheets for cars,Appliances and lots of other stuff using only the weight of the roll to achieve it) and when the steel plug heated back up to room temperature it would expand and fit so tightly that you'd swear the plug and the roll were one peice of steel. The plug could support the weight of the roll (almost 500k pounds in some cases) without any welding or anything else holding it in.
when i toured the Bethlehem steel plant in Steelton pa, i was quite shocked at what happened when they dropped the electrode in to the oven. pretty crazy. steel plants are such amazing places.
@@frotobaggins7169 Yeah man they really are nteresting but also extremely dangerous and terrifying lol. Theres a million ways to be killed when you're working with hundreds of thousands of pounds. I was a chainmen so it was my job to rig up the rolls to the crane so they could be moved. If one of the cables were to break you're beyond dead. When we'd set the steel rolls on the train to be transferred we'd put wooden wedges underneath it to stabilize it,if any of the weight shifts onto a wedge it can shoot out like a bullet and kill you. I once saw a guy who was picking up a plug that was just pulled out of the liquid nitrogen,he wrapped it up in a towel but unintentionally touched a large area of his forearm to the cold steel,he reacted to the burning feeling by dropping the 60+ pound plug onto the floor but the plug was frozen to his skin so it tore a cellphone sized chunk of flesh of his arm. All that stuff is bad but the most terrifying thing is when the rolls are cast incorrectly and air pockets are left inside (usually only happens with cheap Chinese steel). when the steel cools,the air pocket gets compressed and is under incredible pressure. When they put the roll on a lathe to cut it and unknowingly cut too close to the air pocket it will explode and send razor sharp shards of steel, that weigh as much as cars,flying across the plant. after a roll explodes once it can explode again days later so all the peices have to be covered in giant cargo nets. Pretty wild stuff. Sorry for the long comment,I didn't even realize how much I was saying lol.
When you replace the piston housings on an old airplane, you freeze the case and heat the jug. It barely slips on but it does. Make sure it's straight, quick.
It sucks I live so far away I'm a welder an I can repair old cast motors like that an be good as new when I was done hell I'd do it for free just cuz I love watching your work ...
First of all Alec if your reading my comment that is sooooo awesome. SecondAlec I am really loving this hammer and I have a tip for you. I think you should buy a machinist handbook. I got myself one and it only cost me $20 plus shipping on amazon. The handbook has every bit of information about gear ratios, thread sizes and rations, gear sizes, motor power and every other bit of info about motors, shafts, etc. I sure it would rally benefit you in fixing your power hammer. You could find all the info about fixing parts in a machinist handbook and they are pretty inexpensive.
I used to be an engineer designing jet engines. The turbines are connected to the compressor shaft by soaking the shaft in dry ice and when everything comes up to temperature, you have a wonderful compression fit. Ok, that was back in the 80s and it is way colder than your standard freezer. Ain't science wonderful. Keep up the good work.
Boring it and alleging it won't cause any issue. That's the proper way to do it. Especially since he'd have a hard time seeing up a dividing head and cutting a gear. He's not a machinist.
Andrew Delashaw - I’m talking about the center bushing. What he knocked the micarta gear off of. Plus he’d be able to fix the problem with the grub screw threads. And have the added benefit of being able to chose whatever electric motor he’d want and be able to custom fit the bushing to said motor.
My thoughts exactly. ThisOldTony has a bunch of boring videos, and I'm sure he's broached the subject once or twice. A carefully measured request might be key in getting the machine in gear, though he is a bit long in the tooth.
The damage seems to happen in transit quite often. That doesn’t absolve the seller completely as they should endeavour to package it in such a way that the risk of damaged is minimised but it does make them look slightly less bad.
Watching you beat it out of its housing really brough back the nightmare of redoing my rear motorcycle bearings, they were supposed to be pressed in and out by a very special press which was expensive and I did not possess it. Watching you beat it brought back the stress and anxiety of potentially fucking everything up. 10/10 I loved watching it.
There are shaft sleeves/collars that we use at work to combine different shaft sizes too different sprockets. It's called a taper lock. I hope this helps.
I agree. That kind of patina is all natural. I don 't understand why Alec is not addressing that he probably got taken, and what he's going to do about it. He should at least get a partial refund.
@@redjellonian8126 Haha, they got ripped off, but instead turned it into a vid making, advertiser hawking, money making opportunity. When life gives you lemons, make grenade based lemon bombs, make videos of blowing stuff up with them, post it all on youtube, and rake in advertising dollars.
Well, whatever it is, something's very fucky about this machine. Those gears are in mint condition, and whilst i don't expect them to be awfully worn at that size (the larger they are, the less worn they get over time) you'd expect at least some wear. So either this is a reject machine of a lot of machines (of low hours), and that's the scam, or something else is afoot.
I've had this same problem numerous times. Unless there's a good reason not to, (such as overly weakening it) I always turn down the shaft and mill a new keyway in it. This is far quicker, easier and cheaper than boring out the gear and broaching a new keyway in it (with a broach you had to buy just for the purpose). Plus, if you ever need to replace that gear as well then you'll need to modify the replacement in the same way. Also carbide inserts don't like intermittent cuts BTW.
the moment he started talking about a keyway i was immediately thinking of ThisOldTony or Clickspring! please Alec call them up! they'd love to do a collab with you!
If you had really paid attention to the cracks you would have seen there was rust in there which means it has been cracked for awhile so the shipping company is not responsible for what shape it was in when they picked it up.
If u notice the cracks have been rusted over, so he bought this for a couple grand to fix it as a project for channel content, he doesn’t seem like someone that is mad about losing 20k+ he is just saying that to add drama and entertainment.
One of the things I have learned from you guys is to just buy the proper tool for the job when possible. I've (almost) never ended up buying a tool that I only use once. (The exception being when I break it the first time I use it.)
It’s shipping that messed up this machine most likely. Make their insurance pay for this! Assuming that the selling company can prove that it was fine when they put it on the truck...
fair point but realistically speaking, how would that not happen if you're shipping what is essentially just a massive casting with an engine attached to it which was most likely 800 billion years old to begin with ? If you take into consideration, the mass of the motor in correlation to the mass of the internals alongside the age of the casing itself, and then assume that the weight capacity that the case can support would've decreased somewhat over time (because of erosion) wouldn't that have just been inevitable and therefore be down to basic physics ?
I absolutely love these vids of you fixing problems like this. Hate that you have the problems. But I like watching your mind work when you get into it.
11:56 Had me laughing. Currently self-isolating after got cold, but symptoms reported to Dr, who then told me to isolate for 7 days at least. So far SWAT hasn't dropped in on me though.
@@picklesnoutpenobscott3165 Thank you. I'm lucky I have family and friends, that can help me out at this time. You and everyone else do the same, stay safe, be well and stay well.
I am so extremely confused why you're not testing the motor to see if it works at all and as long as it turns, you just fabricate another housing, or get someone to weld the feet back together... The first thought that comes to mind would be to collab with @Abom79
If the housing of a motor that big is cracked theres no point of even trying, it's junk. That thing is 15HP with a cracked housing, just asking for trouble. Also collabs take a long time and they need to get it up and running quick.
Looking at the close up shots there are cracks all across the internal housing. Even detached, just switching it on would probably shake the unit apart. Personally my real concern would be the level of bodgery seen on the other parts. Frankly it looks as though it had twenty odd years of hard graft and shopcraft repairs, then fell into disuse for a few years after the motor housing broke away from the casing. The whole thing needs to be stripped back, cleaned up and carefully inspected for damage / ware / bad repairs on the transmission system. Otherwise I have a feeling we’re going to see several months of passionate restoration videos, followed closely by an explanation of why they have a one ton scrap pile in their workshop after first use.
@@Brainmalfuction It doesn't matter if it is sold "as is." "As is"was working and undamaged. That'd be like me selling you a car, tell you it's not brand new tires on it, and it shows up with tires balls as bologna skin. Also, just because it came from an auction, doesn't have Anthony to do with whether it was insured. It's insured through the freight company. (Assuming he used a reputable freight company that's insured.) He can very easily file a claim through the freight company's insurance.
I was caught off guard and laughed out loud at the fbi coming out when the guy coughed with corona alert. But then see it was posted in march 2020 back when it was just a meme to most people. Now the meme has become dark/gallows humour, which is my sense of humour.
Really disappointing that a "Ready to go" machine turns out to basically be salvage in need of complete overhaul. Definitely reflects poorly on whoever sold it to you.
it probably was ready to go when it was put on the truck to be sent to alec. but it had to go really damn long way over mountain passes. its likely had a lot of stress put on the mountings.
@@sethbennett617 I had that same thought, those look like fresh cracks to my untrained eye. I'm also a trucker and I know how "smooth" the roads are. That much weight on likely cast metal, no win.
@@JohnyComeLately maybe the seller should have taken the motor off and ship it on a seperate pallette. Don't know if that would've helped, but maybe. Or it was already broken back there.
If I were shipping something that expensive to a buyer I’d take pictures of every side of that machine. I’d really be curious to find out if this was old damage or new
Graham _ Exactly! If I was shipping and an honest man.. I would take close up pictures from every side/angel and email a copy to the buyer just to cover my own butt. And if I was in Alec’s shoes.. before I ever bought something like this, especially considering how expensive it is.. I would almost insist on seeing it in person or having the seller do a FaceTime with me and at least let me see it up close/live before buying it. Or at least hire a local expert (to the seller) to go by and take a look at it first. Then if it was good to go, I would definitely get shipping insurance. I imagine insurance would probably be pretty expensive but it would be better than to end up in Alec’s current position. Of course.. hindsight is 20/20 though. Hopefully at the very least.. after all this bad luck Alec has had buying really expensive used equipment that’s supposed to be ready to go.. Alec has learned some valuable lessons.
Keep up the good work! I bet the soft teeth are designed to break before the expensive ones in the machine do and possibly allow for slight miss-alignment. I agree with boring out the hub and re-broaching. Welding in a new hub sounds like an nightmare waiting to happen. If for whatever reason you overshoot the bore you can always sleeve it, there is also a process called spray welding in a last ditch effort but that isn't ideal, although it would make a cool video. When you go to bolt it back down, grab some shims off McMastercarr and align the shaft as best you can with the dial indicator, its standard to have shims under each motor pad, if you end up making custom ones try to have them overhang the motor pad by 1/4". I recommend using grade 8 fasteners to secure the motor. When bolting into a casting you want as many threads engaged between the fastener and hole as you can to distribute your clamping force, reduce stripping and pullout. Using a threaded rod/ stud you can bottom it out in the blind tapped hole to maximize the thread engagement. I would use belleville/ conical washers in addition to flat washers to hold the motor bolts tight, they act as little springs and keep the pre-load. Shoot me a message if you would like me to elaborate.
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Hey Alec, i work in a machining shop in Grand Rapids Michigan, we could machine you a new one for basically nothing and send it out to you, you pay for shipping and I'll make it up so long as you can provide a Cad file for me
Just my thought 👍 a simple job that only would have taken a couple of hours..
Greetings from a blacksmith in Big Rapids, MI!
Get this guy some more likes!!!
@@whitewizard915 dope man, been a machinist for a while but just recently started trying my hand at blacksmithing!
Bump
I think This Old Tony knows his machinery. Why not turn the catastrophe into a collaboration?
Get this man higher in the comments, I refuse to believe this cant be fixed if the motor itself is working
I was more thinking of Abom79
Yessss this old Tony can help tremendously
love Tony, but to do a collaboration, going to need a machinist that shows there face
@@Gantzz321 He showed his face
Holy heck! What is going on with the used equipment you've bought since coming to America? Ice never met anyone who's had this much trouble with literally every single piece of used machinery they've purchased. Okay, granted the mill got dumped in transit. But still!
By the way, I got my brand new 3.5lbs squared circle rounding hammer yesterday! All I can say is it is totally worth the almost 3 years I've tried to get in on one of your hammer orders. The price was beyond fair. The shipping was cheap and fast. It's Ethan Hardy forging them right? Just a fantastic piece of work bordering on art. People, get on the waiting list and set aside the money. You won't regret it. Alec stands behind his stuff 100% and the quality is so far beyond any machined hammer I can't even describe the difference. Thank you Alec!
Makes for more videos, people feeling sorry and buying stuff from him, I'm sure these problems work out to be profitable for him
@@Rufus066 That's exactly what I'm thinking. There's no way any of these problems were a surprise.
Pretty sure the mountain passes you go over to get there put a LOT of stress on the housings and moving mounts.
All that equipment was intended to stay flat and fixed.
You put the stresses of an incline and road vibration on them and things go bad.
@@glenjamindle why would he want them? its gonna cost him way more to buy the thing, get it to the workshop and fix the problems with it than he will ever make back from people buying merch.
Alec: *goes to will to talk to him*
Will: *casually scratching his head with a 30 cm knife*
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Does OSHA ever call these guys and say stuff like.....ok, I will be over with this weeks fines, violations, and "are you sh*&%$ me's"
I was wondering if it was a knife!
Knew a guy who would use a drill with I think a screwdriver bit to scratch his head a few times while I was around. They were the tech person at my high school. Really nice person but strange as anything.
Scratching very carefully though. xD
I love watching Alec fix machinery. Something about breaking down a bodge job and doing it properly is enormously satisfying. It feels like you're putting the world right again.
Con: Very expensive "ready to roll" machine is D.O.A.
Pro: Get to make a very interesting set of videos on how to fix that bad boy.
Russell Thorburn thats the whole point in theory it is worth 10s of thousands fixed, but he bought it used and broken, 2 reasons he doesnt seem upset like someone that lost 20k+, also he gets content.
@@T0YCHEST if you want to see his "not upset face" you might want to check the video where he got the delivery.
Mindereak it did exactly it was a total not upset face
Although its not functioning, it technically still is an asset because he's still making money from the content on it
interesting but extremely expensive, that power hammer is worth as much as a car brand new ;_;
and is gonna cost them even more to repair..
I love watching you guys forge. But honestly, I think watching you figure out issues is even better. It's truly amazing to see you keep a great attitude, keep making jokes (Will's perch...) and persevere until you have a workable solution, and then to do it. You are an inspiration, especially to younger people, to work hard and never give up. Keep up the amazing work guys!!
Will: “We all know you’re not gonna wait anyway. So you might as well just not wait... sooner.”
Alec: “OOF”
Well Will wasn't wrong!
ADHD is a blessing and a curse. It eliminates procrastination, but encourages mistakes that need fixing.
@@jubaldurden4638 Does Alec have ADHD?
He only said what we were all thinking lol
Made for each other.
HIT UP “THIS OLD TONY”! He and y’all could collaborate! Plus he is a master miller.
I'd love to see Alec's hands in a colab vid. That'd be hilarious!
They could talk and transport parts through their heat treating ovens!
Still I guess Keith Rucker from Vintage Machinery is our man in this case. He's got lots of experience with repairing castings and making new ones.
Or Abomb79
Abom for sure
Alec: talks about broachning the keyway
Alec's lathe: starts sweating
I'm liking and commenting just so 'the algorithm' can help Alec pay for that check out cart of parts... paragon isnt gonna do it all!
Iam doing my part
Jeremy Bloch demonetised because he made a gag about corona
I too am commenting to add more comments. :D
I'll help
Agreed
"Open it up now",
"Why‽"
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"Because...ADHD"
Jade Gould damascus everything, I laughed at that too. You will sooner or later, might as well be sooner.
@@billwindham214 This needs to be a poster! We know that you're not gonna wait, so you might as well not wait sooner.
As a man who has been ADD all my life..I approve that..
AD... HD can't forget the pause
So, I'd be pissed if I spent tens of thousands of dollars on a "ready to roll" machine, only to receive it completely broken and non-functioning. I take it you contacted the people you purchased it from? Seems as though it might have been a shop going out of business, however, so maybe it was dissolved and there's no one left to blame the issue on? Was it damaged in shipping? As we know from previous shipments of machines, that does happen. Seriously, though, I'd be really pissed off.
considering the rust on some of those cracks looks like not during shipping.
Yeah the lot looks like it was an auction from a shop that went under.
@@ac.creations Well here is the thing, just because there is rust does not mean that it was not done in shipping, cast metal rusts incredibly fast, hell even unprotected mild steal can rust in a matter of hours if unprotected, in this case it is cast iron that will rust over night and more so if there is moisture in the air.
@@ac.creations I would still guess it was broken after sale. These big machines do not need much of a drop for big parts to break and bend. While moving this machine, somebody dropped it. Plain and simple. It may have only been from a few inches up. The rust likely happened on the fresh metal in the days or weeks that followed. That is truthfully the only way for that damage to happen.
@@Bobbywolf64 nah, thats been broken months, who you trying to kid?
ALEC: Just wondering; do you intend marking this one down to experience or are you going to do something about being ripped off for "tens of thousands"? You have a cool attitude(in every sense of the word "cool") but, either the haulier or the seller is to blame for the damage. By all means; fix it yourself(you do have a metal shop, after all) but send someone the bill.
I'm not a big fan of today's "sue someone for EVERYTHING" culture but you're down a lot of money on this one.
In general with used equipment, you inherit all the old dings and damage. This sort of thing is par for the course.
@@jason00121 It should still be "as described" and fit for purpose. From what's been said since, it would appear that the seller did cover the cost of repairs. I may have picked that up wrongly of course.
A 70 plus year old machine is a crap shoot, even after rebuilding. These things are an adventure and the mechanical issues are an aggravating game of whack a mole. Impact machinery tends to be self destructive, that is just par for the course. Air hammers get expensive and big ones especially so. You could have bought this hammer new up until 2001. I dont think they had sold one since the early 50s. The pricetag when CECO closed for a hammer like this was north of $200k. They bring premium prices, and the one piece models especially. I have seen a few of these over the years and can't recall seeing, even a trashed chambersburg under $20,000.
@@jason00121 but alec said it was rebuilt and ready to use, doesn't look like it to me. btw sry for digging up this old comment ^^
Fuor sure, definetly seems like he go played.
Totally waiting for your next entry. Bored as hell in stay at home over here in Fairview Heights IL.
I never miss a video from you Alec!
And in this episode, Alec is...Boring! (see what I did there?)
"Instead, it's now Will's perch" LOL
got to keep your will happy and entertained or else its ability to endlessly file blades will be hindered
Read this and the line was said a red hot second after
Alec like Scotty in new star trek.."Get Down!"
Alec you should contact Abom79 or ThisOldTony. They would be a wonderful youtube collaboration! Pretty sure they could help ya out.
Love abom 79
I'm sure Abom's shaper would make light work of that keyway.
+1 for getting in touch with Abom79.
+1 for Abom. Or Keith Rucker. Both have done cast iron brazing repairs
TOT!!
The fact he does all his CAD without a mouse is insane to me
I do it too when I’m at college, it’s not that difficult when you get used to it and there’s almost no difference to me when I switch between it
Do not underestimate the power of a Macbook Pro trackpad.
jonivanroost1 yes! You can hate Apple for everything you want, but their trackpads are just simply the best out there
@@jonivanroost1 Nah it is just a normal trackpad nothing special about it what it is is that you are USED TO it, when you are used to a mouse that most often has a different movement pattern for the same movement it is harder to do.
Same as you using my mouse will not feel right for you and will most likely not work well for you. (As i seem to be using higher dpi than most people).
Do not confuse Brand from just something you are used to.
It made me cringe too.
I love fixing and dissecting old workhorse machines for this exact reason. It's just amazing how you can piece together the thought process of the person before you!
I was having my dad take a look at this video, because he's in the motion control industry. I was hoping he would be able to direct you in the motor department. He did say that they stopped making 1 1/2" shaft motors of that size, because they broke the shafts easily. Most importantly though! The play in the sleeve of the gear is intentionally put there. He didn't specify as to why, but if I were to guess... It's to cushion the initial shock of the gears engaging. The guy who runs the RUclips channel AvE may have some knowledge about these things too! Good luck!
Don't be so sad guys. Some of my favorite videos of yours were when you were refurbishing all your machines back in England. It's cool to see how they work.
my bet is that's the reason they bought this machine
I'm not sure if you being entertaining resolves disappointment from spending 10s of thousands of dollars on a machine promised to work that now has to be electronically refurbished.
I enjoy these videos too, it's just a very disappointing and costly ordeal for them to make these kinds of videos.
Blair Snurtburgler it’s also his job and how he makes money to buy these tools
Blair Snurtburgler nah he probably bought it for a couple grand to get channel content, the cracks have rusted over, he doesnt seem mad like someone out 20k mainly just said that for drama and entertainment.
@@RupeeRhod He is almost surely going to make more money fixing this than he paid for it....
With a hammer of that size, you will probably need to make a rubber footing for the new motor, otherwise it might crack again.
Unfortunately that would mess up the spacing and alignment of the motor gears, and wear it out. So we can't rubber mount the motor on this hammer without doing a belt-conversion or adding a stub-shaft with bearings to couple the motor to.
That’s why it has a fiber drive gear to take up the shock
Jeez, all that work for a "ready to roll" hammer makes it sound like Alec got hustled.
ZerglingPack We call it being “shafted”.....no pun intended.
Jea he got hustled hard. Just look at all the rust inside the crack at 0:24 . And on other cracks you can make it out also. The brakes could not have come form shipping.
Here in America we have two words for his correct response: Law. Suit.
Lawsuit is one word.
seems this machine was sold because they couldn't find a motor for it.
Your videos are always so optimistic! Taking a situation that didn’t go as you planned, where more money will be spent, and making it a learning lesson! Very nice to see these things!
I stopped watching for a while and man is it so awesome to see how Alec's shop has transformed from dirt floors to one of the coolest shops i've ever seen!!!
It's fascinating watching Alec try to figure this out on his own. He deserves positive credit, not negative feedback.
I don't think there's really been negative feedback towards him just towards the fucks who sold it to him/shippers who dropped it...
As much as it SUCKS that your beautiful power hammer broke, I love this content. You should do a full visual refurb of the hammer! Wire it clean to bare metal while you wait for the motor to arrive, it would look so sick
Whenever I see the “Part 1” in the title, I know to expect to see a “Part 14” at some point
You know... This maintenance and fixing machinery videos are my favorites!
I'm on the edge of my seat watching this build. And even though I don't need a Paragon oven, I think I need a Paragon oven.
"The Shaft doesn't line up with the Hole"... Well that can't be good
"8.8555 inches.. to the TOP of the shaft"
Micah Man
I wish I could claim that. 🙁
He needs to get his angle right, then the shaft will slide in nice and easy. 😉
12 hours, and not one "That's what she said?" Y'all might be too mature for me.
Oof 69th like
Series within a series within a series. Beautiful
>inception sound here
Inserieseption.
OMG - the SWAT team 'dropping' in at 11:55 killed me!!! :)
Right? Corona Alert! I cracked up
Best video I have seen from you for a long time, and Will diagnosing that Heli coil was outstanding, your a clever lad.
Bro.... you make what would seem “boring”.... in to something exciting. I’ve always been fascinated by smithing so I love your stuff. But the problem solving, and brain storming, etc etc. love it brother. Can’t wait to see what happens with the new toy :)
crazy, that even such huge machines have those epoxy-paper gears
i just know them from 12V motor gears
there, they supposed to be as a "has to break"-piece if the gear or the stuff behind the gear gets stuck
so....maybe, you should also look for this gear itself too
Seriously though, if it's non-functional and advertised as "in working condition",, I'm pretty sure that constitutes fraud.
From a commercial seller (manufacturer) - yes, private-sale - nope it was his responsibility to check it before he paid. Same goes for used cars.
@@_r-a-f_ well with cars you can claim lemon and if you win in court the guy has to pay you back
@@ConLeche29 lemon law on a used car lol who told you that? Lemon law applies for new vehicles and forces the manufacturer to buy it back. No such protection for used cars. They are all considered as is. Of course you can sue them but good luck in litigation.
@@_r-a-f_ Nope. Completely wrong. If you go to a dealer and he's selling a used car, it doesn't mean it's a free for all and they can sell you something and not have to meet it's sold as claims. If they say it had a brand new engine put in, and it didn't. Fraud. If they say that the interior was just upholstered with new leather, and its old cracked leather. Fraud. If the seller said that it was in 100% working condition, he most certainly can file suit. If that were the case, people would be online selling broke junk and no one would have recourse. (See how dumb that sounds?) Whether something is new or used, it does not matter, it must be as advertised. The guy talking about a lemon law on used cars is wrong, but don't try to tell him he's wrong, with more wrong information.
@@xenonram dealer is not a private seller. We are talking about liability in transaction from private seller. There's a reason why you need a dealers license to sell. You are considered a commercial seller. If you buy a car from a PRIVATE party all bets are off
There has to be some relief if this was a "ready to roll" machine". The person who sold it to you should make it right.
iam pretty sure its all in check, the old owner should at least compensate for the cost of the new motor
No the guys transporting it should pay as they should deliver a item in the same condition as when they picked it up
@@bronchiosaurus2766 I certainly would hope so. After that lathe debacle, you would think Alex would have like some new form of PTSD (Post Traumatic Shipping Disorder).
@@PiSt0nZ1 The breaking points are already rusty and couldn't have appeared on transport.
PiSt0nZ1 looked tough me like it didn’t have washers where the anchor points were.
Alec: *Drops tens of thousands on a broken old power hammer*
Also Alec: *Thinks a 200 boring bar is expensive*
When in doubt, contact This Old Tony.
He can make just about anything, and build a mountain of any molehills.
Him or Abom79.
@@TexDrinkwater Yep, Abom79 did a TON of work with big gearboxes and shafts when he was at Motion, it'd be worth picking his brain for a half hour or so.
Tom Lipton the Man (oxtools RUclips)
When you go to broach, press a little then back off throughout the whole process. It makes for a decent experience when you don’t break a broach
I agree. I’ve shattered them... nothing like sharp chunks of metal flying around the shop😮
They should have the shims available that pop in the back of the groove of the bushing; press the first broach with no shim, then with one, add another, etc till you reach the desired depth of keyway.
You should do a calibration with you tuber “this old tony”. He’s a funny mechanist, and this seems right up his ally.
Love Will chillin’ on top of it the whole intro, just casually😂
I have followed you for sometime now. I watch every video you do, regardless the subject matter. I was puzzled by that, usually I am very selective about subject matter. Then it dawn on me, things break, things don’t go as planned, and sometimes we just don’t have any experience with what we are dealing with. You have never let that slow you down, or stop you. I appreciate your “Can Do” attitude. Sometimes we do not get it right the first time, or the seventh time. You have helped me develop a “if there is a will, there is a way attitude”. Thank you. A loyal 69 year old follower, and a beginning blade smith.
I really enjoyed this video particularly because of the creative problem solving and using the mill and your noggin to make the replacement insert and sleeve. Thanks for sharing the whole process!
Two days two uploads. I'm here for it
I worked at a steel mill in Pittsburgh when I was a younger and we would put steel plugs into liquid nitrogen for a few minutes and then hammer the plug into the ends of enormous steel rolls (for rolling out stainless steel into thin sheets for cars,Appliances and lots of other stuff using only the weight of the roll to achieve it) and when the steel plug heated back up to room temperature it would expand and fit so tightly that you'd swear the plug and the roll were one peice of steel. The plug could support the weight of the roll (almost 500k pounds in some cases) without any welding or anything else holding it in.
when i toured the Bethlehem steel plant in Steelton pa, i was quite shocked at what happened when they dropped the electrode in to the oven. pretty crazy. steel plants are such amazing places.
probably should have said lowered, not dropped.
@@frotobaggins7169 Yeah man they really are nteresting but also extremely dangerous and terrifying lol. Theres a million ways to be killed when you're working with hundreds of thousands of pounds. I was a chainmen so it was my job to rig up the rolls to the crane so they could be moved. If one of the cables were to break you're beyond dead. When we'd set the steel rolls on the train to be transferred we'd put wooden wedges underneath it to stabilize it,if any of the weight shifts onto a wedge it can shoot out like a bullet and kill you. I once saw a guy who was picking up a plug that was just pulled out of the liquid nitrogen,he wrapped it up in a towel but unintentionally touched a large area of his forearm to the cold steel,he reacted to the burning feeling by dropping the 60+ pound plug onto the floor but the plug was frozen to his skin so it tore a cellphone sized chunk of flesh of his arm. All that stuff is bad but the most terrifying thing is when the rolls are cast incorrectly and air pockets are left inside (usually only happens with cheap Chinese steel). when the steel cools,the air pocket gets compressed and is under incredible pressure. When they put the roll on a lathe to cut it and unknowingly cut too close to the air pocket it will explode and send razor sharp shards of steel, that weigh as much as cars,flying across the plant. after a roll explodes once it can explode again days later so all the peices have to be covered in giant cargo nets. Pretty wild stuff. Sorry for the long comment,I didn't even realize how much I was saying lol.
When you replace the piston housings on an old airplane, you freeze the case and heat the jug. It barely slips on but it does. Make sure it's straight, quick.
Looking at your current situation. You should do a collaboration with "This Old Tony"
I know having problems like this sucks, but it's so amazing watching how you solve these problems making some exciting content. Great work alec
These videos, where you are solving urgent problems, I think you are on your best! Enjoyed this episode, looking forward to the end result!
It sucks I live so far away I'm a welder an I can repair old cast motors like that an be good as new when I was done hell I'd do it for free just cuz I love watching your work ...
Interesting, a Will perching on natural habitat.
Hopefully he won't build a nest up there.
Once Wills nest it is impossible to get them out of there.
Is it bad I heard you saying that in David Attenborough's voice?
Here we have a Will, Perching in his natural Habitat...
He'll come down when you make coffee.
Picklesnout Penobscott Nope, I imagined Steve Irwin, may he rest in peace, while reading that comment.
Bob Funk Something shiny might do the trick too though
@@mgreene1409 "Crikey! Look at that hammer, one touch and *whack!* he'll take your arm Clean Off!"
First of all Alec if your reading my comment that is sooooo awesome. SecondAlec I am really loving this hammer and I have a tip for you. I think you should buy a machinist handbook. I got myself one and it only cost me $20 plus shipping on amazon. The handbook has every bit of information about gear ratios, thread sizes and rations, gear sizes, motor power and every other bit of info about motors, shafts, etc. I sure it would rally benefit you in fixing your power hammer. You could find all the info about fixing parts in a machinist handbook and they are pretty inexpensive.
I used to be an engineer designing jet engines. The turbines are connected to the compressor shaft by soaking the shaft in dry ice and when everything comes up to temperature, you have a wonderful compression fit. Ok, that was back in the 80s and it is way colder than your standard freezer. Ain't science wonderful. Keep up the good work.
Alec,. I dig that you are taking time to consider the cost s in a project like this. Especially that you discuss how important time is
I’d just remake the whole thing. You’d be saving yourself a lot of heartache down the road.
Boring it and alleging it won't cause any issue. That's the proper way to do it. Especially since he'd have a hard time seeing up a dividing head and cutting a gear. He's not a machinist.
Andrew Delashaw - I’m talking about the center bushing. What he knocked the micarta gear off of. Plus he’d be able to fix the problem with the grub screw threads. And have the added benefit of being able to chose whatever electric motor he’d want and be able to custom fit the bushing to said motor.
I honestly thought that from the start. We know he could do it, may it take longer? Sure, but then you know it's perfect.
My thoughts exactly. ThisOldTony has a bunch of boring videos, and I'm sure he's broached the subject once or twice. A carefully measured request might be key in getting the machine in gear, though he is a bit long in the tooth.
So basically, every second hand machine dealer in the US is a shark? Every time he buys a machine there's something wrong with it.
The damage seems to happen in transit quite often. That doesn’t absolve the seller completely as they should endeavour to package it in such a way that the risk of damaged is minimised but it does make them look slightly less bad.
As if the nation "US" has any value. Humans suck. There is no nation of morally superior people. If you think so... you're a moron.
@@jubaldurden4638 i think thats fairly incorrect
@@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 I would make a fair wager that the carrier did not damage those motor mounts, nothing looks recent on those fractures!
@@duracellgee I'm watching on my phone and I thought I saw rust. But not sure how long it was on the truck.
0:55 i love how will is casually sitting on top of the power hammer
Super cool to see your manufacturing and engineering skills develop over time. Stellar job alec
Watching you beat it out of its housing really brough back the nightmare of redoing my rear motorcycle bearings, they were supposed to be pressed in and out by a very special press which was expensive and I did not possess it. Watching you beat it brought back the stress and anxiety of potentially fucking everything up. 10/10 I loved watching it.
Get A-bomb over there. He'll get it going.
I remember the last repair videos were what got me into this channel
There are shaft sleeves/collars that we use at work to combine different shaft sizes too different sprockets. It's called a taper lock. I hope this helps.
Dustin Spann Is that like those special fittings you can buy that allows you to fire say, a 9mm from a 12G? Or not really? 😂😂
I'm not familiar with those.
The Real MVP is that forklift dude that helps out! Cool guy!
"Painted like this to make it look worn." I'm sorry bud I think you got played
I agree. That kind of patina is all natural. I don 't understand why Alec is not addressing that he probably got taken, and what he's going to do about it. He should at least get a partial refund.
yep, thats what it looks like, seems he got played for a fool.
Yeah they did. Lots of content made out of fixing it though.
@@redjellonian8126 Haha, they got ripped off, but instead turned it into a vid making, advertiser hawking, money making opportunity. When life gives you lemons, make grenade based lemon bombs, make videos of blowing stuff up with them, post it all on youtube, and rake in advertising dollars.
Well, whatever it is, something's very fucky about this machine. Those gears are in mint condition, and whilst i don't expect them to be awfully worn at that size (the larger they are, the less worn they get over time) you'd expect at least some wear. So either this is a reject machine of a lot of machines (of low hours), and that's the scam, or something else is afoot.
8:32 the fact that he was scratching his head with a knife makes the next 10 seconds 100x funnier and relatable.
I think I would be talking with the company where this machine came from. They obviously sold you a machine that wasn’t “ready to go”.
I've had this same problem numerous times. Unless there's a good reason not to, (such as overly weakening it) I always turn down the shaft and mill a new keyway in it. This is far quicker, easier and cheaper than boring out the gear and broaching a new keyway in it (with a broach you had to buy just for the purpose). Plus, if you ever need to replace that gear as well then you'll need to modify the replacement in the same way. Also carbide inserts don't like intermittent cuts BTW.
Great video! I love problem solving, fixit videos. You are on the right track for the repair. Just take your time and keep checking your measurements.
OMG I love how fast you made the Corona joke! I LOVE IT
the moment he started talking about a keyway i was immediately thinking of ThisOldTony or Clickspring! please Alec call them up! they'd love to do a collab with you!
renogiza -
Don’t forget Kieth tenner and Abomb79, or they could ask the guys from Project Binky to make some brackets. 😉
abom72? he is more of a machinist
Keith Fenner.....just sain'
Clickspring is in Australia, it's a bit far for Alec. Also his equipment is not exactly the right scale for this sort of project.
Steampunk Skunk
Yes, but just imagine how beautiful it would look engraved and made out of solid brass?😉
you DID get some money back on this right? You should ask
for the price of the replacement motor
"because, ADHD." I died😂 I have ADHD as well and that response was sooo accurate
I do enjoy the problem solving process. Not everything is best fixed by an off the shelf solution.
Great episode. Loved the detailed in depth complexity.
One thing my machinist mentor always told me. " when ever you have the chance, make your own tools. A mill and lathe can go a long way"
He won't do that, he is too stupid to realize cast iron can easily be welded and he has some serious welders at his disposal. Can't fix stupid.
Now that you need a new motor, you should take all of that copper out of the old one and make some cool stuff out of it! Lemons out of lemonade
GuardGreen 5.0 Fair idea! I’d love to see Alec get into major melts. The upside is he can take what he melted and forge something from it!
So, you have no recourse with the seller and/or the shipping company? Seems like their promises of a good running machine weren’t very true.
Eric Primrose would definitely have some phone calls with the shipping company and/or a lawyer
If you had really paid attention to the cracks you would have seen there was rust in there which means it has been cracked for awhile so the shipping company is not responsible for what shape it was in when they picked it up.
If u notice the cracks have been rusted over, so he bought this for a couple grand to fix it as a project for channel content, he doesn’t seem like someone that is mad about losing 20k+ he is just saying that to add drama and entertainment.
@1234 oh this sort of thing has never happened in any other countries huh? That makes sense idiot.
@@T0YCHEST bare metal rusts quick.
One of the things I have learned from you guys is to just buy the proper tool for the job when possible. I've (almost) never ended up buying a tool that I only use once. (The exception being when I break it the first time I use it.)
It's really nice to see you approach teh problem with good critical thinking of what shape you need, then making it.
That thing looks like it has been sitting outside in the weather for 50 years. I would have called them out big time, you're much nicer than me haha
"Honey, why is there a big gear in the freezer?"
"The hole was too small!"
**confused stare**
It’s shipping that messed up this machine most likely. Make their insurance pay for this! Assuming that the selling company can prove that it was fine when they put it on the truck...
fair point but realistically speaking, how would that not happen if you're shipping what is essentially just a massive casting with an engine attached to it which was most likely 800 billion years old to begin with ? If you take into consideration, the mass of the motor in correlation to the mass of the internals alongside the age of the casing itself, and then assume that the weight capacity that the case can support would've decreased somewhat over time (because of erosion) wouldn't that have just been inevitable and therefore be down to basic physics ?
The fracture is completely rusted leads me to believe it was stress fractures that rusted over time and finally split open in shipping
It was likely old damage that was hidden under decades of paint. Working on hammers this is pretty common. Those cracks are older than Alec.
I absolutely love these vids of you fixing problems like this. Hate that you have the problems. But I like watching your mind work when you get into it.
Love these sort of episodes. Not the whole thing of your hammered being busted but it's kinda like behind the scenes
11:56 Had me laughing. Currently self-isolating after got cold, but symptoms reported to Dr, who then told me to isolate for 7 days at least. So far SWAT hasn't dropped in on me though.
be well, stay well.
@@picklesnoutpenobscott3165 Thank you. I'm lucky I have family and friends, that can help me out at this time.
You and everyone else do the same, stay safe, be well and stay well.
I am so extremely confused why you're not testing the motor to see if it works at all and as long as it turns, you just fabricate another housing, or get someone to weld the feet back together... The first thought that comes to mind would be to collab with @Abom79
Because seeing if it works means paying an electrician to wire it up, which isn't necessarily cheap or fast. It doesn't just plug into the wall.
If the housing of a motor that big is cracked theres no point of even trying, it's junk. That thing is 15HP with a cracked housing, just asking for trouble. Also collabs take a long time and they need to get it up and running quick.
Looking at the close up shots there are cracks all across the internal housing. Even detached, just switching it on would probably shake the unit apart. Personally my real concern would be the level of bodgery seen on the other parts. Frankly it looks as though it had twenty odd years of hard graft and shopcraft repairs, then fell into disuse for a few years after the motor housing broke away from the casing. The whole thing needs to be stripped back, cleaned up and carefully inspected for damage / ware / bad repairs on the transmission system. Otherwise I have a feeling we’re going to see several months of passionate restoration videos, followed closely by an explanation of why they have a one ton scrap pile in their workshop after first use.
@@cableferret9804 one ton? A knee mill is a ton and a half, there's no way that thing isn't more like 2 or 3 tons! 😜
@@super_slo That is a good point. So one ton in a pile and the other two scattered accross the workshop XD
did you not get shipping insurance on something that big? and did the company you bought it from not give you a guarantee of the condition ?
Probably bought in auction, and if I’m not mistaken auctions usually don’t offer insurance. I can be wrong tho.
@@marcd7332 Could be Auctions are normally final sale. But to not have shipping insurance for a big ticket item like that.
Brainmalfuction It wasn’t broken in shipping, look at the rust on the cracks indicating they are old, it was broken before/when they bought it.
Used equipment sold as is. No warranty.
@@Brainmalfuction It doesn't matter if it is sold "as is." "As is"was working and undamaged. That'd be like me selling you a car, tell you it's not brand new tires on it, and it shows up with tires balls as bologna skin. Also, just because it came from an auction, doesn't have Anthony to do with whether it was insured. It's insured through the freight company. (Assuming he used a reputable freight company that's insured.) He can very easily file a claim through the freight company's insurance.
@alecsteele I salvaged a couple big motors last year that might work. I’ll check the measurements Sunday when I can get to the building.
I was caught off guard and laughed out loud at the fbi coming out when the guy coughed with corona alert.
But then see it was posted in march 2020 back when it was just a meme to most people.
Now the meme has become dark/gallows humour, which is my sense of humour.
Really disappointing that a "Ready to go" machine turns out to basically be salvage in need of complete overhaul.
Definitely reflects poorly on whoever sold it to you.
I feel like he should try to get the seller who mislead him to repair it
it probably was ready to go when it was put on the truck to be sent to alec. but it had to go really damn long way over mountain passes. its likely had a lot of stress put on the mountings.
@@sethbennett617 I had that same thought, those look like fresh cracks to my untrained eye. I'm also a trucker and I know how "smooth" the roads are. That much weight on likely cast metal, no win.
@@JohnyComeLately maybe the seller should have taken the motor off and ship it on a seperate pallette. Don't know if that would've helped, but maybe. Or it was already broken back there.
"We know that you're not gonna wait anyways, so you might as well not wait *sooner*"
My 3yo when he saw Alec: "him have funny hair. Him need a haircut."
Alec, top tip, you can cut keyways on a lathe, look it up online if you're unsure of how, it's not hard at all
I really like the videos, I can see from the history that it is dubbed because here I don't understand anything.
Congratulations for your work
There is a youtuber calling himself "my mechanics" who always says: "I make a new one" and then does an incredible job. Contact him! Regards.
The only problem is he's in Switzerland.
Why bore the 1.5” hole out to 2” just to weld in a sleeve in for a 1.625”? Why not just bore it to 1.625” ?
This was my question! Seems horribly obfuscating.
If I were shipping something that expensive to a buyer I’d take pictures of every side of that machine. I’d really be curious to find out if this was old damage or new
Graham _ Exactly! If I was shipping and an honest man.. I would take close up pictures from every side/angel and email a copy to the buyer just to cover my own butt. And if I was in Alec’s shoes.. before I ever bought something like this, especially considering how expensive it is.. I would almost insist on seeing it in person or having the seller do a FaceTime with me and at least let me see it up close/live before buying it. Or at least hire a local expert (to the seller) to go by and take a look at it first. Then if it was good to go, I would definitely get shipping insurance. I imagine insurance would probably be pretty expensive but it would be better than to end up in Alec’s current position. Of course.. hindsight is 20/20 though. Hopefully at the very least.. after all this bad luck Alec has had buying really expensive used equipment that’s supposed to be ready to go.. Alec has learned some valuable lessons.
I’m always amazed in your knowledge during the “adventures” Alec. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Keep up the good work! I bet the soft teeth are designed to break before the expensive ones in the machine do and possibly allow for slight miss-alignment. I agree with boring out the hub and re-broaching. Welding in a new hub sounds like an nightmare waiting to happen. If for whatever reason you overshoot the bore you can always sleeve it, there is also a process called spray welding in a last ditch effort but that isn't ideal, although it would make a cool video. When you go to bolt it back down, grab some shims off McMastercarr and align the shaft as best you can with the dial indicator, its standard to have shims under each motor pad, if you end up making custom ones try to have them overhang the motor pad by 1/4". I recommend using grade 8 fasteners to secure the motor. When bolting into a casting you want as many threads engaged between the fastener and hole as you can to distribute your clamping force, reduce stripping and pullout. Using a threaded rod/ stud you can bottom it out in the blind tapped hole to maximize the thread engagement. I would use belleville/ conical washers in addition to flat washers to hold the motor bolts tight, they act as little springs and keep the pre-load. Shoot me a message if you would like me to elaborate.