for those asking about atsuko 3star, 5star or ue40 -- consider this. ive had her at ue40 for pvp for 3months and she's max comfy, however there will be a upcoming raid boss - the kurokage aoe hyakko raid where ue40 atsuko is meta for a 1pan insane clear. she has value now both in pvp and pve. hope this helps!
Thanks for the insight. I have Atsuko for a long time and really wanted to max her since her kit is so useful but was hesitant since she might get outshined by future students in the future. I guess it's finally her time to shine on my team now.
Still works if I use Iroha and O.Nodoka for slot special as attacker and defender team since I don't have S.Shiroko? Maybe I should invest my Atsuko to UE40 now?
Play around with marina & yuuka position and see if your bracket can counter it. I remember struggling a lot against that comp but your bracket might be different. I don't want to invest in Makoto jusr for that. It's either that at ny.haruna or c.kotori in my bracket.
@@RSRainstorm I used Shun Iori Marina Yuuka S.Mash/S.Shiroko on attack for getting the rank bonuses until rank 1. I was a day late but that comp was great even with meta teams already appearing on 100ish.
@@LeinVansten I mean it's Indoor so Iori demolish everyone, except NY.Haruna because of RNG. In this season, if you have the students you can counter almost every team.
Quick question, How do you deal with D4 NY Haruna? I've been struggling a lot vs them losing 90% of the time even if I plan to confront them with resistances. I avoid them like the plague but they're multiplying in my rank 20-1 in my bracket and been losing much everyday since.
@@RSRainstorm Yup, tried using 4 tanks against it but diff supp units. I just cycle through Iroha/S.Mash/Nagisa depending on what frontlines they use so the team could actually deal damage. Didn't consider using O.Nodoka though, been using S.Shiroko for the other supp slot for the skill regen. But I'll try it tomorrow.
@@LeinVansten Well for the special students it's up to you. You can use S.Shiroko + 1 more students depending on whether you can kill the enemy backlines or not. O.Nodoka can only help you win if you can take care of NY.Haruna and Shun early.
@@RSRainstorm I started playing on December, I suppose we are going to get half of the pyroxenes we gain while climbing the ladder, currently I fluctuate between ranks 240 to 140 usually, do you think Utaha will still be relevant or this tiny space is to crowned for her turrets?
@@pythonpeanut In theory, Nagisa EX can easily take care of her. But now that you mentioned it, I didn't fight against Utaha at all this season, so no idea, honestly.
- My Marina has always been UE30, so not sure. - For Shun as low as star possible, you can max her equipement at 4 star she sometimes she gets targeted instead of Iori. - For Nagisa not really sure, since I don't use her much. I just got her recently only.
@@yon9906 If you read Shun EX skill, you'll see that she targets the enemy with the highest ATK in her range. So if you don't want your Shun be targeted by your opponent, then you should keep her star or ATK stat lower compared to your other dps. So your Shun is invisible to the enemy's Shun unless all your higher ATK units are down, like Iroha, Mika, S.Ayane, Iori, etc.
Im Marinafag and mine is UE50 relationship lv 50. So is Iori Tsubaki Shun Marina sshiroko nagisa the right order or are there better composition? No Atsuko btw
I think the only meta against NY Haruna is luck, because if you're going with dealers it's just a matter if your dealer comes first than NY Haruna EX, if not she kills everyone. So you can go with tanks + operational (Iroha, S.Ayane). I just won matches against NY Haruna when she not EX first, so all the times she doesn't, she gets insta killed. Basically not a consistent team but a painful to deal one
I found the 3 dps team including both Iori and New Year Haruna is pretty common in my bracket back then. One another is Iori Marina Atsuko/Yuuka Shun (in some random order). Sadly, there is no one as versatile as Nagisa in term of dealing with opponent Marina & helping with survivability. You can try Minori like me (if you do have her at least 5 stars), she can miss, but if it is a hit it is an instant kill to Marina. In addition, her range is also big, if your opponent has a tank started in D3, Minori can also kill the backline instantly if her card is early. She doesn't help dealing with Atsuko, but this mode is a pure RNG fs so believe in your S.Shiroko, i guess xD S.Miyu might hit Marina many times, but her actual impact is low so whatever. Iroha is slow af, PvP is being too fast in backline killing so only use her in post-100-rank battles or if the opponent of yours is using Iroha. M.Yuzu is out of the conversation having the same range with Nagisa and cost 5. S.Ayane can be another option, but only if you can let your striker deal with Marina first because 100% people will use Marina against Yellow-type special dealers. To sum up, any Special that can deal with Marina will go top of the table as this tank is increasingly annoying in S6 esp. in defense.
In fact, the only replacements for Nagisa - even if she's too good so you can't exactly replace her, there's no one really equal - is the ones that a lot of people keeps using: Mashiro or Hibiki. Hibiki is very strong, but nowadays, seems her efficiency got down a little bit, I see majority using Mashiro as replacement for Nagisa, since she gives accuracy and a lot of damage for single target, basically a second S.Shiroko
@@scharf1112 well i settled down for Minori and its doing me quite well, been going between rank 1 and 5 since the start of season. if she hits she basically one shots everything thats not a blue tank. others in my bracket who are not on nagisa use her as well
@@ImTeyqa Well this beginning of season is always like no challenge at all, seems the "whale" people got to their ranks something around 1 to 3 weeks after season starts I've never saw someone using Minori in PvP, but probably this terrain is better for her, since the train is very narrow, she is now able to damage everyone, so yeah that's good
S.Shiroko + Another support of your choice. Iroha is good if your teams have problem taking out the enemies backlines. Because the defending Marina may keep pushing your teams back and not die. - Note that this team doesn't work against good single target dps like Iori.
I have shun and marina, but my marina isnt invested at all (not even levels). Should I? Btw, any replacements for special students? I don have ss shiroko, ss mashiro or the like yet (I'll pull for himari later next month though)
Mine is UE30 after the first Hiero Torment so my best advice is to check her perfomance and see if it's worth it. If she get hit by S.Shiroko, she gets one shot anyway.
Is 3* S. Mashiro good? She's level 70 OMG 🤣 Also, T. Yuuka is good for this season? And who do you recommend for special slots? I got UE30 or 40 Nagisa but 4* S. Miyu and no S. Shiroko
- For T.Yuuka that's the run at 2:31 and 4:04. Well just test what works best for you, for defense I used Minori + S.Shiroko for special. But Nagisa is probably better. Just test what works for you I guess. Maybe Serina? - I guess 3 star S.Mash works if you just need her evasion debuff. A max Tsubaki can tank UE40 S.Mashiro if she doesn't crit for reference. Though Tsubaki can't tank 2.
I'm probably going to set my defense to NY Haruna to "tank check" my bracket for information, then swap off to Iori so at least I'm not 100% free. I'll probably be sneaky and change it at random from day to day so at the very least whoever fights me has to spend two matches instead of just one or it's a mindgame gamble. Just make yourself as annoying to fight as possible.
@@RSRainstorm Am currently using Shun Yuuka Iori Tsubaki s.Mashiro Iroha rn and I can stay around top 50-200, do you think I should change Yuuka to other dps for next season like ny.mutsuki or s.hoshino?
@@CryptomGaming Well running only 1 tank will risk you getting hit by Nagisa or Minori on attack. But you can test and see I guess. While S.Hoshino dmg is ok, I don't think she can survive long.
@@sagiridesu7230 There's some S.Azusa usage from what I've seen in JP vids. Her chill dmg is good at chipping down eva tanks, if you can keep her alive before her ex that is
@@Kusanaiiz It's depending on your bracket so... just wait I guess. Building for pvp isn't always worth it in term of resources anyway if you lack a few core students. Just find someone to pair with Iori, Shun is just there for the early extra cost most of the time. S.Hanako can be good but she can be hard to use on attack against random teams.
for those asking about atsuko 3star, 5star or ue40 -- consider this. ive had her at ue40 for pvp for 3months and she's max comfy, however there will be a upcoming raid boss - the kurokage aoe hyakko raid where ue40 atsuko is meta for a 1pan insane clear. she has value now both in pvp and pve. hope this helps!
atsuko been a major mvp for me since i've gotten her solely for being a strong tank with heal and with a bonus of crazy evasion stat
Thanks for the insight. I have Atsuko for a long time and really wanted to max her since her kit is so useful but was hesitant since she might get outshined by future students in the future. I guess it's finally her time to shine on my team now.
Nice compilations. Just curious, what is your defense team look like?
I use 2 tanks + Shun + S.Hanako/ Nutsuki. Iori works too.
@@RSRainstorm S.roko and nagisa for special students?
@@tet4174 Yeah, though I don't have Nagisa so I used Minori back then.
Looks like more fun times for Junko, can't wait. That chick is underrated.
Let me know if she works XD
Bro really leave a comment how it goes, got me interested as well
@@Engitsu Sure, CS. Kotori wouldnt be a bad pick either. Mine's not invested, but I'm aware she can also do work.
Still works if I use Iroha and O.Nodoka for slot special as attacker and defender team since I don't have S.Shiroko? Maybe I should invest my Atsuko to UE40 now?
What's the general defense lineup on higher ranks this season?
I'm using Shun Marina Yuuka S.Hanako on def atm
Play around with marina & yuuka position and see if your bracket can counter it. I remember struggling a lot against that comp but your bracket might be different. I don't want to invest in Makoto jusr for that. It's either that at ny.haruna or c.kotori in my bracket.
@@RSRainstorm Gotcha, I knew this comp was something from the looks of it. 👍
@@LeinVansten Well there is Iori team in the top too if they realize that NY.Haruna is being countered consistently.
@@RSRainstorm I used Shun Iori Marina Yuuka S.Mash/S.Shiroko on attack
for getting the rank bonuses until rank 1. I was a day late but that comp was great even with meta teams already appearing on 100ish.
@@LeinVansten I mean it's Indoor so Iori demolish everyone, except NY.Haruna because of RNG. In this season, if you have the students you can counter almost every team.
Quick question, How do you deal with D4 NY Haruna? I've been struggling a lot vs them losing 90% of the time even if I plan to confront them with resistances. I avoid them like the plague but they're multiplying in my rank 20-1 in my bracket and been losing much everyday since.
Do they have Iroha on defense as well?
@@RSRainstorm mostly no, but let's say one does have it on a different scenario
@@LeinVansten You can just use the team at 2:32, does it work in your bracket?
@@RSRainstorm Yup, tried using 4 tanks against it but diff supp units. I just cycle through Iroha/S.Mash/Nagisa depending on what frontlines they use so the team could actually deal damage. Didn't consider using O.Nodoka though, been using S.Shiroko for the other supp slot for the skill regen. But I'll try it tomorrow.
@@LeinVansten Well for the special students it's up to you. You can use S.Shiroko + 1 more students depending on whether you can kill the enemy backlines or not. O.Nodoka can only help you win if you can take care of NY.Haruna and Shun early.
4 tanks what a nightmare for the other teams and with Yuuka constantly shuffling position around it's imposible to land the correct type of damage
It only work against NY.Haruna or other students that focuses on AoE dmg. Rip against Iori btw.
@@RSRainstorm I started playing on December, I suppose we are going to get half of the pyroxenes we gain while climbing the ladder, currently I fluctuate between ranks 240 to 140 usually, do you think Utaha will still be relevant or this tiny space is to crowned for her turrets?
@@pythonpeanut In theory, Nagisa EX can easily take care of her. But now that you mentioned it, I didn't fight against Utaha at all this season, so no idea, honestly.
what do you think would be good level of investment for marina, shun and maybe nagisa ?
- My Marina has always been UE30, so not sure.
- For Shun as low as star possible, you can max her equipement at 4 star she sometimes she gets targeted instead of Iori.
- For Nagisa not really sure, since I don't use her much. I just got her recently only.
@@RSRainstorm thanks i'll try uncapping them bit by bit in the upcoming season
@@RSRainstorm can you elaborate on why shun needs low star and equipment? and targeted by who exactly?
@@yon9906 If you read Shun EX skill, you'll see that she targets the enemy with the highest ATK in her range. So if you don't want your Shun be targeted by your opponent, then you should keep her star or ATK stat lower compared to your other dps. So your Shun is invisible to the enemy's Shun unless all your higher ATK units are down, like Iroha, Mika, S.Ayane, Iori, etc.
@@RSRainstorm I see, I don't really see enemy shun as a real threat but i'll keep that in mind.
Im Marinafag and mine is UE50 relationship lv 50.
So is Iori Tsubaki Shun Marina sshiroko nagisa the right order or are there better composition? No Atsuko btw
Depending on who you're fighting against, there are better comps, like Iori often loses a lot against NY.Haruna. Is that an attack or defense team?
Does nutsuki still work to counter NYharuna on offense, or not as consistent as quad tank?
are there any good options for defending against ny haruna without telegraphing a team like tanks+iroha? can ue40 shanako pick her off reliably?
I don't use ny.haruna on attack so yeah, I am not sure how good a defending shanako would do against her. But you can try I guess.
I think the only meta against NY Haruna is luck, because if you're going with dealers it's just a matter if your dealer comes first than NY Haruna EX, if not she kills everyone.
So you can go with tanks + operational (Iroha, S.Ayane). I just won matches against NY Haruna when she not EX first, so all the times she doesn't, she gets insta killed. Basically not a consistent team but a painful to deal one
Atsuko still being used 🤟
🙌
what would be the best all around defense team in your opinion?
also whats the best replacement for nagisa? sadly dont have her
thx for the vid 🙏
I found the 3 dps team including both Iori and New Year Haruna is pretty common in my bracket back then. One another is Iori Marina Atsuko/Yuuka Shun (in some random order).
Sadly, there is no one as versatile as Nagisa in term of dealing with opponent Marina & helping with survivability. You can try Minori like me (if you do have her at least 5 stars), she can miss, but if it is a hit it is an instant kill to Marina. In addition, her range is also big, if your opponent has a tank started in D3, Minori can also kill the backline instantly if her card is early. She doesn't help dealing with Atsuko, but this mode is a pure RNG fs so believe in your S.Shiroko, i guess xD
S.Miyu might hit Marina many times, but her actual impact is low so whatever. Iroha is slow af, PvP is being too fast in backline killing so only use her in post-100-rank battles or if the opponent of yours is using Iroha. M.Yuzu is out of the conversation having the same range with Nagisa and cost 5. S.Ayane can be another option, but only if you can let your striker deal with Marina first because 100% people will use Marina against Yellow-type special dealers.
To sum up, any Special that can deal with Marina will go top of the table as this tank is increasingly annoying in S6 esp. in defense.
@@simpingoveruniverses thank you!
In fact, the only replacements for Nagisa - even if she's too good so you can't exactly replace her, there's no one really equal - is the ones that a lot of people keeps using: Mashiro or Hibiki.
Hibiki is very strong, but nowadays, seems her efficiency got down a little bit, I see majority using Mashiro as replacement for Nagisa, since she gives accuracy and a lot of damage for single target, basically a second S.Shiroko
@@scharf1112 well i settled down for Minori and its doing me quite well, been going between rank 1 and 5 since the start of season.
if she hits she basically one shots everything thats not a blue tank.
others in my bracket who are not on nagisa use her as well
@@ImTeyqa Well this beginning of season is always like no challenge at all, seems the "whale" people got to their ranks something around 1 to 3 weeks after season starts
I've never saw someone using Minori in PvP, but probably this terrain is better for her, since the train is very narrow, she is now able to damage everyone, so yeah that's good
Which support should i use for 4 tank team i have S.Shiroko, Nagisa, Iroha
S.Shiroko + Another support of your choice. Iroha is good if your teams have problem taking out the enemies backlines. Because the defending Marina may keep pushing your teams back and not die.
- Note that this team doesn't work against good single target dps like Iori.
I have shun and marina, but my marina isnt invested at all (not even levels). Should I? Btw, any replacements for special students? I don have ss shiroko, ss mashiro or the like yet (I'll pull for himari later next month though)
You can use Serina or Minori/Nagisa on attack if you can find a way to hit the enemy's backline.
Do you think atsuko is worth it to 5* or 3* is fine, I already build her for kurokage but don't want to waste eligma if unnecessary
Mine is UE30 after the first Hiero Torment so my best advice is to check her perfomance and see if it's worth it. If she get hit by S.Shiroko, she gets one shot anyway.
What bracket range are these matches from?
These are top 100.
Is 3* S. Mashiro good? She's level 70 OMG 🤣 Also, T. Yuuka is good for this season? And who do you recommend for special slots? I got UE30 or 40 Nagisa but 4* S. Miyu and no S. Shiroko
- For T.Yuuka that's the run at 2:31 and 4:04. Well just test what works best for you, for defense I used Minori + S.Shiroko for special. But Nagisa is probably better. Just test what works for you I guess. Maybe Serina?
- I guess 3 star S.Mash works if you just need her evasion debuff. A max Tsubaki can tank UE40 S.Mashiro if she doesn't crit for reference. Though Tsubaki can't tank 2.
@@RSRainstorm Ahh, okay thank you for replying. I'll refrain from putting S. Mashiro. Do you think Serina is better than O. Nodoka for this season?
No shun, and marina. However, I have atsuko. Looks bleak for me😅
In the last one how did marina go down so quickly?
S.Miyu has guaranteed crit dmg per. And Marina not dodging enough shots.
No one use serika ny? Sadge
I'm planning to copy the 3 DPS team but my Marina is only 3 stars. Is she usable or need higher investment?
Mine has always been UE30 since season 4/5 so I am not sure how a 3 star Marina performs here.
@@RSRainstorm I'm glad UE30 works fine and not needing to make them UE40+ unless you're a PvP enthusiast.
I'm probably going to set my defense to NY Haruna to "tank check" my bracket for information, then swap off to Iori so at least I'm not 100% free. I'll probably be sneaky and change it at random from day to day so at the very least whoever fights me has to spend two matches instead of just one or it's a mindgame gamble. Just make yourself as annoying to fight as possible.
So 4 tank team only good for attack?
Usually I have no problem against them if I have Iori. Unless they summon Iroha too fast, but that's just RNG issue.
no marina and atsuko, am i cooked chat
I guess Tsubaki can replace one of them, but you won't have many options. So it depends on how competitive your bracket is.
Mostly. If you don't have Nagisa at least 2 blue stars then just try to stay in top 100.
@@RSRainstorm Am currently using Shun Yuuka Iori Tsubaki s.Mashiro Iroha rn and I can stay around top 50-200, do you think I should change Yuuka to other dps for next season like ny.mutsuki or s.hoshino?
@@CryptomGaming Well running only 1 tank will risk you getting hit by Nagisa or Minori on attack. But you can test and see I guess. While S.Hoshino dmg is ok, I don't think she can survive long.
>No Marina and Shun
I'm doomed this season lol
Add Iori to that. Let's flicking go to hell 😭
S.Mashiro seems lit too. Too flicking bad I only got S.Azusa :
@@sagiridesu7230 There's some S.Azusa usage from what I've seen in JP vids. Her chill dmg is good at chipping down eva tanks, if you can keep her alive before her ex that is
>tfw no Atsuko
Welp, another season skipped.
Maybe Tsubaki can do it as well?
Tombae supremacy
damn this is gonna be a painful season for not having marina or shun
No Shun is fine, maybe Tsubaki will work instead of Marina?
@@RSRainstorm i really hope
thanks for the guide
Can me show me ur team build 4 tanks at 2:31 i dont have shun nor S.shiroko so im gonna copy that team
That's at 3:56. It doesn't work against Iori and probably S.Hanako as well.
So what team í should build when i dont even have S.shiroko nor shun plus my Nutsuki only 3*
@@Kusanaiiz It's depending on your bracket so... just wait I guess. Building for pvp isn't always worth it in term of resources anyway if you lack a few core students. Just find someone to pair with Iori, Shun is just there for the early extra cost most of the time. S.Hanako can be good but she can be hard to use on attack against random teams.
Dont have Marina its over for me rank 20k here we come
Max is rank 15001 XD