Great content. From what I heard marina is only usable s2. Good to get that she is still decent 4star which is very cheap. I will now think about getting her
@@RSRainstorm Is she still meta now with the indoor change to street? She loses 0.4x damage. Feels quite a lot with her damage ex. How is she compared to atsuko? I feel they are quire similar stat wise.
@poi poi not many players use her in my bracket, and there's Shun and a lot of high accuracy red units as well. With how fast both Haruka and Eimi die in my attack team, I haven't use Marina much these days since my attack team doesn't seem solid yet. Atsuko can heal, so you may not need a healer if she's alive long enough. But since both are evasion tank, they need RNG to survive against Iroha.
@@RSRainstorm The ones beside the locker that will make Shun/Iori waste their time going there... and then going back down once the locker falls. When staying in place is better
Put my 3* Marina and returned back to Haruka (tritank with Yuuka and Atsuko). So weak... easily get smoked before triggering her immorality. I think she needs 5* minimum to start working. But I know this is not her favorite terrain as well. What about new season? Has someone using her as she has neutral mood there? Thanks in advance.
First it was no S. Mash, now it's no O. Nodoka. I can still rank 1 and consistent top 10 with 0 refreshes. I'm not going to let no Marina of my own or enemy Marinas put an end to that, not after I've come this far without the previous two meta PvP picks. UE50 Iori puts in WORK. (Definitely getting Iroha though.)
@@RSRainstorm Late, but I just got spooked by Marina in Saki pulls, so I came back to this video to figure out how much I'd need to invest in Marina for the Iori wipe. I'm not comfortable spending ligma on a PvP only unit, so I guess I'll wait until T7 badge before deciding to use her to any degree. Too many people have Marina now, so I've been forced out of top 10 for the time being because Iori can't deal with three tanks (two red), and that's on the off chance she even gets to go off. The easy Iori wipe and invincibility + O. Nodoka to full HP combo don't help either. Oh well, top 100 is still a comfy amount of income. Also, I didn't get S. Mash because S. Azusa screwed me over and took me to spark. I wasn't willing to risk my pyroxene stash going above 200 pulls for a PvP only unit. I have been incredibly salty about it, even now at times, but, I SURVIVED OUTDOORS (and Indoors until Iroha replaces her).
@Yama Well, if I lacked a core raid units, I only suffer in that raid for like 1 week. But if I lack core PvP units, I will suffer with it everyday. That's how I think about it. Plus you still need S.Mash to counter high evasion student in season 4.
Well so far I only use Marina on attack, I haven't seen her in any defense comp, let's see anything interesting happen towards the end of this season of JP server.
@@RSRainstorm ty ty. Got 1st place again, really happy about this and can't helpt but brag (and you helped me with that, thank you) :) In my bracket people use her in tritank composition but UE50 Aru got her job done on the first try.
Could I ask which position should I put my marina to counter the defense iori? Her ex feels a bit short and easily canceled due to long animation I feel. Another thing is that if she didnt dodge especially against ue40 iori, she will get three shot.
- You need to know where the defending Iori position first, then put marina far away from her. Like in the video, if the enemy have D3 Iori, I could either put her at the other positions, like A1, A2 or A4. Generally, it's best to sandwich Marina between 2 tanks at A2 or A3 position, depending on Iori's position, that's why most of my records had 3 tanks. A1 Atsuko can block Marina from D1 Iori, while A4 Tsubaki can block D4 Iori.However, If you know the defending Iori's position already, it's better to use Haruka there to counter her attack. - Using Marina before T7 badge update is harder against Iori btw, that 400 extra evasion makes a big difference.
@@RSRainstorm Thank you so much! That is super helpful. Btw, will you do a video on the joint firing drill? Could use some ideas now. The only team I know that can beat level 4 is borrow Mash and pair it with saki.
@poi poi You can check out my old run here. The alternate team in the desciption is the team I just ran a few hours ago. Here's the video ruclips.net/video/E_dQGVniEsw/видео.html
I got her to ue40 T666 skill 5787, still losing most pvp, that’s quite frustrating… is she no good to be placed in defence team? Or does it work as putting in sandwich position for a 3 tank Defense team or even 4 tank defence team?
- You need to wait for T7 badge like I said at 1:27 for better survivability first. We haven't got Iroha yet so it's pretty hard to run 3 tanks, unless your Shun can defeat enemy's backline first. - 3 tanks defense team doesn't work that well for me, especially with Marina at 4*. When I put her up on defense, I dropped from top 100 to rank 212. Therefore, I only used her in an attack team.
@@RSRainstorm Yes, I have watched through your whole video. Thank you for your suggestions. They are very useful. Currently on my server there're lots of D teams using Hoshino, Tsubaki, Haruka 3 tank team. I was wondering if swapping one of them with Marina would be more effective in defence...
I’m new to this game. I decided to pull 200 in Cherino banner and I got 2 Cherino. What should I choose between making 5* Cherino or keep 4* Cherino + 3* Marina?
If you're a new player, I doubt you need 5* Cherino anyway. Next raid you mosly use her as a support unit. 4* Cherino with max EX should help you clear most yellow contents, upgrade her to 5* only if you need to.
It's better to get new characters in general. Events have characters that give reward bonuses. Each event differs on which characters will get the bonuses so it's better to get everyone. You could also 5 star characters that you already have with the use eligma (the consolation prizes for dupes, aside from the shards)
@Ame no Murakumo Have i misundertood your question? Is this a should I spark Marina or Cherino question? I just realized it after reading the comment above.
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In case my point is not clear, it's really hard to keep Marina alive in Chesed, unless you get Marina her UE.
Man, that thumbnail game is on point... I should probably finish AoT. It's a miracle that I haven't been spoiled the ending at this point.
Great content. From what I heard marina is only usable s2. Good to get that she is still decent 4star which is very cheap. I will now think about getting her
well she's more pvp mostly for now, in Chesed, it's kinda hard to keep her alive.
@@RSRainstorm Is she still meta now with the indoor change to street? She loses 0.4x damage. Feels quite a lot with her damage ex. How is she compared to atsuko? I feel they are quire similar stat wise.
@poi poi not many players use her in my bracket, and there's Shun and a lot of high accuracy red units as well. With how fast both Haruka and Eimi die in my attack team, I haven't use Marina much these days since my attack team doesn't seem solid yet. Atsuko can heal, so you may not need a healer if she's alive long enough. But since both are evasion tank, they need RNG to survive against Iroha.
Also yes, fuck that locker. But especially fuck those desks.
desks?
@@RSRainstorm The ones beside the locker that will make Shun/Iori waste their time going there... and then going back down once the locker falls. When staying in place is better
@@JohnPeacekeeper ah that, in season 4 there are even more covers btw.
Put my 3* Marina and returned back to Haruka (tritank with Yuuka and Atsuko). So weak... easily get smoked before triggering her immorality. I think she needs 5* minimum to start working. But I know this is not her favorite terrain as well. What about new season? Has someone using her as she has neutral mood there? Thanks in advance.
First it was no S. Mash, now it's no O. Nodoka. I can still rank 1 and consistent top 10 with 0 refreshes. I'm not going to let no Marina of my own or enemy Marinas put an end to that, not after I've come this far without the previous two meta PvP picks. UE50 Iori puts in WORK. (Definitely getting Iroha though.)
No S.Mash is pretty brave.
@@RSRainstorm Late, but I just got spooked by Marina in Saki pulls, so I came back to this video to figure out how much I'd need to invest in Marina for the Iori wipe. I'm not comfortable spending ligma on a PvP only unit, so I guess I'll wait until T7 badge before deciding to use her to any degree.
Too many people have Marina now, so I've been forced out of top 10 for the time being because Iori can't deal with three tanks (two red), and that's on the off chance she even gets to go off. The easy Iori wipe and invincibility + O. Nodoka to full HP combo don't help either. Oh well, top 100 is still a comfy amount of income.
Also, I didn't get S. Mash because S. Azusa screwed me over and took me to spark. I wasn't willing to risk my pyroxene stash going above 200 pulls for a PvP only unit. I have been incredibly salty about it, even now at times, but, I SURVIVED OUTDOORS (and Indoors until Iroha replaces her).
@Yama Well, if I lacked a core raid units, I only suffer in that raid for like 1 week. But if I lack core PvP units, I will suffer with it everyday. That's how I think about it. Plus you still need S.Mash to counter high evasion student in season 4.
So... Anything new regarding her pick rate in your bracket?
Well so far I only use Marina on attack, I haven't seen her in any defense comp, let's see anything interesting happen towards the end of this season of JP server.
@@RSRainstorm ty ty. Got 1st place again, really happy about this and can't helpt but brag (and you helped me with that, thank you) :) In my bracket people use her in tritank composition but UE50 Aru got her job done on the first try.
I am perpetually out of t2 disks and t4 Wolfsegg steel, not sure they're that easy to get after all...
rip for t4 wolfsegg, the t2 disks is available in the next summer rerun.
Could I ask which position should I put my marina to counter the defense iori? Her ex feels a bit short and easily canceled due to long animation I feel. Another thing is that if she didnt dodge especially against ue40 iori, she will get three shot.
- You need to know where the defending Iori position first, then put marina far away from her. Like in the video, if the enemy have D3 Iori, I could either put her at the other positions, like A1, A2 or A4. Generally, it's best to sandwich Marina between 2 tanks at A2 or A3 position, depending on Iori's position, that's why most of my records had 3 tanks. A1 Atsuko can block Marina from D1 Iori, while A4 Tsubaki can block D4 Iori.However, If you know the defending Iori's position already, it's better to use Haruka there to counter her attack.
- Using Marina before T7 badge update is harder against Iori btw, that 400 extra evasion makes a big difference.
@@RSRainstorm Thank you so much! That is super helpful. Btw, will you do a video on the joint firing drill? Could use some ideas now. The only team I know that can beat level 4 is borrow Mash and pair it with saki.
Three men team for the win but it needs mash to be max build.
@poi poi You can check out my old run here. The alternate team in the desciption is the team I just ran a few hours ago. Here's the video ruclips.net/video/E_dQGVniEsw/видео.html
@@RSRainstorm Nice, thank you so much! Besides the tech notes, what should I buy?
I got her to ue40 T666 skill 5787, still losing most pvp, that’s quite frustrating… is she no good to be placed in defence team? Or does it work as putting in sandwich position for a 3 tank Defense team or even 4 tank defence team?
- You need to wait for T7 badge like I said at 1:27 for better survivability first. We haven't got Iroha yet so it's pretty hard to run 3 tanks, unless your Shun can defeat enemy's backline first.
- 3 tanks defense team doesn't work that well for me, especially with Marina at 4*. When I put her up on defense, I dropped from top 100 to rank 212. Therefore, I only used her in an attack team.
@@RSRainstorm Yes, I have watched through your whole video. Thank you for your suggestions. They are very useful. Currently on my server there're lots of D teams using Hoshino, Tsubaki, Haruka 3 tank team. I was wondering if swapping one of them with Marina would be more effective in defence...
@Dan Yang oh yeah, I forgot that O.Nodoka can keep 3 tanks comp alive if they're lucky enough, I didn't have O.Nodoka when I used 3 tanks.
"And Iroha"
So you mean three tanks and an actual tank
-Am going for Iroha definitely tho-
iroha gameplay: "I'm in a tank and you're not".
What do you mean good news? Hibiki is what carried me to Platinum rank in PvP
well you have 2 months to prepare I guess?
Of course she good for pvp but why I need her only for pvp when she waifu as well with heart
I give up on PVP.. Skill issues 😔
Anyways, Thank you for your video
This video should have been in my recommendation a month ago :(
Well it didn't get many views initially so maybe that's why it didn't get recommended.
Tsubaki still better
I’m new to this game. I decided to pull 200 in Cherino banner and I got 2 Cherino. What should I choose between making 5* Cherino or keep 4* Cherino + 3* Marina?
marina ofc, cherino can mostly stay 3*, unless u decide to use her as tank in raid
If you're a new player, I doubt you need 5* Cherino anyway. Next raid you mosly use her as a support unit. 4* Cherino with max EX should help you clear most yellow contents, upgrade her to 5* only if you need to.
It's better to get new characters in general. Events have characters that give reward bonuses. Each event differs on which characters will get the bonuses so it's better to get everyone.
You could also 5 star characters that you already have with the use eligma (the consolation prizes for dupes, aside from the shards)
@Ame no Murakumo Have i misundertood your question? Is this a should I spark Marina or Cherino question? I just realized it after reading the comment above.
@@RSRainstorm yeah I pull 200 got 2 Cherino and I still not use spark 100 cherino fragments or 1 Marina since hesitation