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Paths of Glory: PATHOS InPol Remix MKII Integrated Amplifier
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- Опубликовано: 8 авг 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:37 Pathos, made in Italy
1:20 Class A, fully balanced
2:40 Not a typical tube design
3:22 Pathos options
4:41 The Remix Mk II specs
6:20 Music Selections
9:42 Remix compared with Pass Electronics
14:14 The Remix as a headphone amp
15:37 So Steve, what do you really think?
17:03 Audiophiliac Viewer System of the Day!
18:02 Outro
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There's an Audiophiliac imposter scamming my viewers, DON'T respond! I don't do giveaways or ask for money (except for my Patreon).
Hey Steve Dannie Ritchie from GR Research said in a video that he received an email from someone pretending to be you asking for speakers for review. Scammers suck. Love your channel.
@@Darrylizer1 ask the scammer to pay for shipping and send a dozen house bricks.
his last name is Hernandez
I report those suckahs every time.
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Thank you Steve. The best audio channel on RUclips. I already cued up the Mellencamp recording you mentioned. I want to make it clear that even though we took over Pathos distribution in 2019, Upscale Audio/Upscale Distribution can provide service to any Pathos product regardless of age. Pathos is very responsive to us and as always, my company does our best to stand behind the brands we represent. If I'm out of my lane by stating this please feel free to delete my message. So thankful. - Kevin Deal
Kevin, your website is not working tonight.
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Pathos rocks, especially their Impol designs! The ones I've heard have been magical sounding. Thanks for featuring this one, Steve!
The Rocking Horse Road cd by Jacqui Dankworth and Brodsky Quartet is great! Thanks Steve for sharing this.
Mikhail Gorbachev visited St. Paul MN on June 3 1990 and his crew brought boxes of that Paul McCartney album along and put it in some of the local independent record stores. They likely traded them for American records. It was the second Russian release of the album (1st was a pretty limited pressing), but we all thought we were getting something pretty cool that wasn't available in the US at the time. It was certainly better than most of McCartney's latest studio output.
Thank you Steve was waiting for more reviews on Pathos kit.
Its nice to hear the Kinks get some love. I went to a Yeshiva in Providence, Rhode Island in the mid 80's and remember sbeaking out of the dorm to see the Kinks and the Providence Civic Center. I got to shake Ray Davies' hand from the front row and oh boy did I get in trouble for sneaking out to a rock concert. Totally worth it.
Good looking amp. Really appreciate your videos Steve!
has Steve done a recap of his album collection? I subscribed to channel for his equipment reviews, but have come to love the different albums highlighted during those reviews.
that's a good idea I've not seen that a to z of is album collection see what horrors he's got 😂
yea....he has some albums you will ONLY find with his recommendations
My Pathos Classic Remix Hybrud Integrated Amplifier turns 3 years old & still going strong. I put some inexpensive new old stock vintage vacuum tubes in that further mellows the tone of the
input/preamp stage.
It sounds beautiful..
rich & detailed, warm & spacious. It's def a keeper...and is kind of
McIntosh in its overall tonality. I highly recommend this product. I also think that bi-amping these low powered amps might be a very good idea. I don't need to do that however.
That Mellencamp album is outstanding. One of my favorites
Stylish and very impressive looking……. Oh and so is the Pathos Amplifier as well.
Another excellent review and even if the price is way out of my ballpark, it’s still very interesting so see a progressive company combining high quality electronics AND a stylish artistic visual look.
Thanks Steve and “keep ‘em coming”
I just wish more designers , companies who make integrated amp would include tone control via tactile dials , i miss that
I totally agree about the Kinks, Steve, A fantastic band, extremely influential for bands of 80s (eg: Madness) and 90s-2000s (like Pulp); they'd deserve more respect and more space in all music lovers' pantheon
Would love to have a listen. The Pathos is beautiful…we do different routes to our listening experience….
Me..for my $5500 I got a McIntosh MC152 Power Amp for my not-that-efficient DynAudio Contour 20s…. Drivin' all that power with a Schiit Freya+ with NOS GE Tubes…. Very happy with my sound…I will give a listen to some of your music pics! It’s ALL FUN! 👍🏼
A very serious system of the day. Nice review for those into higher sensitivity speakers....
I think the design is neat looking. I have their Classic Remix ($3300). 70wpc. Excellent sounding hybrid integrated. And it has the same heat sinks. It uses the same tubes, but ARE part of the preamp. BTW, it, too, is a fully balanced design, but haven't taken advantage of it because my sources are all unbalanced.
Have you heard the Pathos InPol integrated amplifier that Steve reviewed here?
IYO, How does it compare to the Pathos Integrated Amp that you currently own?..especially in terms of the degree of tube-like sound it has when you listen to it.
I am most likely going to purchase either the Pathos InPol or your amplifier online.
I appreciate any info that you can offer me.
I am just starting to read up & get familiar with the Pathos products...both on their website & from online audio reviewers of their products.
Thanks,
David
@davidstein9129 I have not. But I'd say that if I had much more efficient speakers than I do, I'd probably go for the InPol. At the time I bought the Remix, my budget was about $3000, so I wasn't considering the more upscale models.
Love the viewer system of the day, super nice!
Brother Steve thank you for the stereo testimony There's a beautiful song arranged by the jazz group foreplay enjoy! Track( I'll still be loving you 🎹 Walter Beasley track 🎹 go with the flow ) Dawoud said track (Out of phase 🎹
Gotta check out that Gershwin album. Thanks!
Interesting viewer system. Bet it sounds good
A+ for Kinks love
Agree with you Steve on the Kinks
Jacqui Dankworth has some serious genetics. Parents are John Dankworth and the amazing Cleo Laine!
was looking at buying a pathos inpol ear but this could be the proper move... Get to run both speakers and hps off the taps.
Phatos audio turely committed to the excellent hi quality sounds great 2amplifier
Yes, Beatles, Stones and The Kinks! Had to be said….
Thanks for the review Steve. Out of curiosity, did you prefer the sound of the Pathos to the Enliem amp-23R? Both similar price and power output but very different sound signature.
My preference? I prefer this one, but I’m not hung up on resolution or clarity. So it’s always a matter of what the buyer is searching for, not me.
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Also (preaching to the preacher on this one), synergy with the rest of the system. The same listener, whose overall preferences remain relatively stable, might prefer one amp in a certain scenario (say, with different speakers) and a different amp in a different system. Steve did some comparisons but who knows which would come ahead with speakers from Tekton, Elac, Kef, or Canton? Wish I were in the position to try all of them myself!
Thanks for asking this question! I’m considering both of them at the moment.
Steve and readers. Advice! Pathos Remix or Enleum AMP-23R? Which is more tubey and analoge sound characteristics? with very efficient speakers? Thanks
Hi Steve: a month ago you reviewed the Enleum 23r. How do these two amp compare for their respective tube-like goodness. Sounds like the Pathos has a bigger soundstage...?
Appreciate any comparisons you can give.
I’d like to know as well :-)
My top three are the Who, the Stones, and the Kinks (in that order).
Steve, totally agree with you about The Beatles, Stones and the Kinks being the best British Invasion Bands. The Kinks are under rated in US. I also think that that you should give an honorable mentions to the Animals and the Yardbirds, both of whose music stands the test of time. The Early Animals did a much better job of introducing Black American Music to White Teenage Americans than the Stones. The Stones didn't become big until they wrote their own music. Look what Chas Chandler did for Jimi.
Think you missed The Who in third before the Kinks on that list if your being on point.But after The Animals and Yardbirds I think you have to add The Dave Clark Five who gave us gems like "Glad Al Over","Everybody Knows","Can't You Seed She's Mine","Everybody Knows" etc.The Zep thing seems to have a direct current that comes out of the Yarbirds since with Clapton you get Cream,With Beck you get his first LP "Truth" which many of the cognoscenti consider the first heavy metal LP,and with Page you get a stairway to somewhere or else.Man what a boot camp
I agree with you about The Kinks and The Animals. The Kinks were just too British for American tastes.
steven ? i think you said steven yeah
i like what you are doing
When you showed the two sets of speakers I know the Klipsch cornwalls what was the other pair , Thank you
DeVore O Baby speakers
Is the bass soft like all tubes?
Looks like a beautiful amplifier. As an integrated amp what are the inputs and how do you choose them? I see no switches.
Four rca inputs plus one XLR input. The input selection is done via the remote and a small button near the button on the lower front panel
You can select inputs on the remote. For me, that volume control would take some getting used to.
It is a work of art though
I saw the Kinks in the late 80s - l think :-). All I remember they didn’t like to play Lola…
Steve, Could the piano roll transcribing machine pick up the dymamics of how Gershwin played a note (pp - ff) or does it just create a void in the roll that triggers the hammer to play the note? Are there lines on the roll that control the pedals? Are the answers on this Gershwin record?
Sounds like piano rolls are the original digital recording technique. 0s & 1s.
This is covered in the liner notes for the CD. They took care of that. Sounds really good
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Thanks Steve. I'll put the CD on my list.
Duo-Art system could record dynamics, pianola system couldn't
@@johnholmes912 Thanks John.
My Audioanalyse has 2 /50! Watt class A and the outlook was already likely
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I wish you could review their amplifiers
Have you reviewed their aurium?
Why dont you think these highend audio manufacturers dont consider leasing their equipment. Would i love a 50k audio system ....sure! But i dont want to layout 50k all at once if they offered a lease option im all in.
I had an Audio Research preamp that used a similar arrangement for volume control, and I hated it! I much prefer a conventional rotating volume control (either potentiometer or an optical encoder).
Nice
Lavardin amp French company, don't belive in remotes, as they claim it will interfeer with the overall Sound. But after 15-20 year of their lifetime, they found a way to be able to make a remote, without any kind of audio negatives. U have to look it up yourself, as it's much better explanied, than i is capable of here ✌️❤️🇩🇰
High gloss white is awesome but the billionaire price kills me
CAUTION WHEN BUYING PRODUCTS WITHOUT PROPER REPAIR REPRESENTATION IN THE USA. A friend had a Pathos hybrid amp 4-5 years ago. Alas, it had an issue that after a lot of frustration, he had to send it to Italy for repair
Upscale Distribution, which is a division of Upscale Audio, has been the importer/distributor for Pathos since 2019. We have a full service department and the best technical support line you can ask for, where questions are answered by a real bench tech. Our service and support is second to none.
The previous importer was a very large company that perhaps did not give the level of care that Pathos wants its customers to have. I'm the owner of Upscale, and took on Pathos because the product is so amazing and the people that work there are so passionate. And because I'm a Pathos owner in my own reference system.
I have never had a company so responsive to our needs as Pathos in my 44 years of being in the audio business. They are universally respected by people that work in High-End audio, and if ANY Pathos owner needs repair we are most eager to help.
Like all Italian products just bling to elevate the cost.
25 Watts :) sounds like double what I have now :) - At the moment I have about $3,000 grand in 4 old old old Re-Build V/M ---> and I have to admit I'm thinking had I known what I would end up spending.... *Then Again,* I know more about HI-FI than I eved did as a KID and it's all part of the Path... right? .... Think I'll buy a New Guitar the Next time ;) lol
What the hell does "kinetic, more transient alive" mean?
No zebras were killed in making zebra finish.
Kinks certainly are underrated. But Led Zep just ok??! Come on.
Music taste is very much generational. To people my age - late 50s - Zeppelin, Floyd were the Gods.
Not interesting. The heat sinks are why you are paying $6000 😉😂
For that kind of money, one can build an excellent audiophile system!
Not an unreasonable price point. Many great components at that price point that are excellent and better than most under that point.
I'm hearing you want to review one of Danny Richie's Encore speakers.
@Richard Smith
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Is your pal Miguel known as Gaucho, also ?
Yes
Like 1000 😎🤘🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
Probably get the Enleum over this
X2
Led Zep, Beatles, Stones.
The pathos is no competition to the primaluna evolution 400
I find the recording quality to be so awful on so much of the rock music the I grew up with….I have a great system and listen to soooooo many quality recordings….and then if say I put on an old Kinks recording it can sound sooooo gawd-awful that I can’t listen to it. Do others run into this?
I think with a lot of music, that I have just "moved-on'. 🤷🏻♂️
Lola vs. Powerman however sounds stunning..
I have a question, I have very high sensitivity speakers, 100db Klipsch Klf20s, I'm on a budget now, so I got a Yamaha rxa2a,, it's a multi purpose system, for the musicality and functionality, and an emotiva basx a2 for the mains for max headroom, and stereo listing , and it's just effortless, why spend so much for a few watts, how does this balance with headroom?
Hi Dan, the thing is not all watts sound the same. The Pathos is miles ahead in sound quality.
I'm looking for a good amp to my triangle comete 40th anniversary, after so many reviews, it's still hard to choose, the design of this pathos is nice, but the price is too high..(thanks to the heatsinks)...
I'm wondering about the sound signature in triangle and pathos ?! Maybe it's a good match...?!
Something from YBA should be a really good match for your speakers.
@@AT-wl9yq thanks a lot for your feedback
Great review as usual. It looks like a nice amp, but I have to admit I think the name on the heat sinks is kind of gimmicky (and I'd hate to ding the side and break it).
First tubes were ECC85...........................6922 are not best choice...........quality NOS are rare and still not best choice..............( no damping fingers on the cathode unlike 6DJ8/ECC88 OR ECC188 so most 6922 are prone to high frequency ringing and many audiophiles DO LIKE THAT ! )
TRY some ECC188 Siemens halske or other famous nos brands........and if you're lucky buy some CCA = CC means a double triode .........the A stands for BEST tube we ever made !!!!!!!!! good luck hunting a pair down !
Recent productions ( Russian , stay away form chinese !!!! ) they are quite dull & thicksounding , they lack transparancy and many minute tonal shades of the real nos tubes......
So why the 6922 ..............because manufactures like it , cheap and lots of stock !
Audiophiles ...........they BELIEVE 6922 is great ( big brands are using it in very expensive gear and than there's the hype created by marketting )
Anyway audiophiles always know it better than people who have the knowledge of a lifetime with tubes for over more than half a century..............so be happy to buy illusions.....
Go for the real thing ( ECC188 goldpin nos / CCA ) and thank me later.
Any thoughts tubes/caps for the Musical Paradise MP-701mk2 preamp?
Looks like it has a lifetime of choices built in...
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@@carlitomelon4610 Hello, 6N11 is chinese version of 6H23 EV russian and the 6DJ7 family as are the 6922,ECC188/7308 etc.avoid 7308 Siemens made in the USA ( Sylvania/philips made ) they are not bad but far away from the ones I proposed..GOOD LUCK FINDING THESE TUBES IN PRISTINE CONDITION......... Have a nice day.
If someone wants to stay with E88CC/6922............use nos european E88CC from Telefunken/PHILIPS SQ group/Siemens/halske .........
One must select the ones with no glare or the least glare in the uppper frequency range.................Siemens has an enourmous weight without losing transparency, TFK opens a window on the music as if you cleaned the glass......and SQ Philips does everything very well with good tone..............all are musical far superior to the new productions.......also the lifespan /life expectancy is way much longer .....
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Frankly:
Thanks!
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$2000 of. price is extra cost of heatsink.
Totally agree
Their ~$3300 Classic Remix, a terrific amp, has the same heat sinks. Let me tell you, it's no $1300 sounding amp.
Inpol..
you got a thing for feeling knobs,, you worry me Steve 😂
I'm surprising you didn't say supertramp as one of your favourite British bands
Harmless knob twirling…
Dave De ,,Dosie,Beeky, Mick, Titch.
Hold tight, Bend it.
More better.
I have that Mellencamp CD
Of all his (wonderful) work, that is by far the worst.... ha ha ha
Give me Scarecrow and American Fool any day
25W ok, Class A - no, too much heat
50% of the price is the Pathos heatsink.
No way. I bought one after I watched the Upscale Audio video ruclips.net/video/7jwEru9qnwY/видео.html I'm an Electrical Engineer, and EE's are skeptical when it comes to high end audio. This is the real thing and the design, while hard to understand, is another level compared to other brands. I use it with Khorn AK6. Amazing.
Who hides 300Bs from the world???
Can you fry eggs on the cooktop tubes. LOL
I think pink floyd music is much better than Beatles, stones or Kinks...everyone has there own taste😁🎶🎶
Shouldn't you put the price of $5400 in the title line?
@Ruben Ramero do you ever have anything nice to say?
@Ruben Ramero I guess i underestimated the wit & cleverness of Steve's viewers. My Bad
quite why one would need a remote with an amp is beyond me.
Led Zeppelin didn't scale the heights of the Stones, Kinks? Really? I would agree the live performances were mixed, but they reached amazing heights on their albums. Of course this is personal, but my 17 year old daughter would disagree with you.
Thanks, everyone can disagree or agree about taste in music and most things in life. All I can do is express my opinions, that’s it!
The heat sinks on this thing probably makes 80% of the cost.
Nope. It's very heavy because it has massive inductors for the Inpol circuitry. Though the chassis is compact, it is stuffed to the gills. There are videos that show the insides on the Upscale Audio channel.
Very good show! I hope the following question is not too personal, but we live in a free society. In the background is a picture of a person with a red shirt, blond hair and a black skirt or black shorts. This person looks a little androgynous. It leads to the question: Is the Audiophiliac heterosexual? Thank you!
This may be a good amp but to me it’s an ugly pug.
One of the most unreliable brands I've ever come across constantly going wrong
@@___disso--bey___ yep my amplifier has been repaired at least six times within the space of about 5 years
I have the headphone amp Steve reviewed (bought it because of his review). Zero issues in two years. Sounds amazing.
David Williams comments the same stuff under different guises ("Williams David" in the case of Upscale Audio's Pathos video). I have had a Pathos for best part of 18 months now with zero issues. Take his baseless comments with a pinch of salt.
Ugly and overpriced. Typically gaudy Italian design aesthetics.
Aesthetics are a matter of taste, but what makes you think it is over priced? It is expensive, but that’s not the same thing.
What an ugly looking thing! Looks like it was made in someone's garage and spray painted.
So you have changed your mind since your earlier comment accusing it of being bling to double the price?
I have room 3.7 m × 5.2 m. I have amp pathos inpol remix with telefunken gold pin ecc88 tubes 1960. My speakers are tannoy dc8, primare np30 streamer, Panasonic ub9000 blu ray/cd/sacd player, primare converto mk2 hadphone amp/dac, hifiman ananda nano headphones, phono stage will be sam audio reference turntable, lehman decade turntable amp, hana excel sound catridge. Casstete deck alpage al 300. What do you think? @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac