It's amazing how good these writers are at both male AND female characters. Most RPG characters aren't this deep - one gender is relegated to romance interest, the other to rivals, and are just satellites around an annoying MC. What I especially find surprising is how I usually dislike the character tropes that Rokuro represents - the dark wandering ronin who cares only for the sword. And Eizen is not someone who seems to have much "character" at all, really. But in spite of that, I just can't help but love the two. They don't do anything to make me dislike them, and just keep doing things that make me love them. I like how Rokuro never feels like he needs to justify his obsession with getting stronger and killing his brother, even though nobody (not even me) understands why. And I like how Eizen seems rigid like a stiff commander, but he truly values freedom and everyone pursuing their individual interests - and being a huge dork about his own interests. I think it's because it adds to the theme of the story. As they said, they don't have any logical reason for the following Velvet. Most writers would try to craft a good reason for characters who have mostly villainous traits joining forces. But this is a story about Emotions vs. Reasons. These two are just going with their gut, with what they FEEL like doing. As opposed to other stories, where people group up for a shared reason. These guys really just tag along because they like each other and feel like they should, even if there's no reason to join. And those feelings aren't just brushed aside for being unreasonable - just like how Velvet's aren't brushed aside when she learns the truth and knows how much damage her actions will cause. I fucking LOVE this game!!!
This was my favorite scene in Berseria and just my favorite scene in any of the tales games. Acting was great, you felt the connection between to the two and gave great character development.
Was best when Eizen just straight up takes Rock's sake and goes exclusively for it... after initially refusing. This was an unnaturally well-made scene.
Just played this games 10 minutes ago. I liked it so much that I came here to watch it again. I really like when characters have this kind o interaction
Yknow seeing how arise handle their characters, i keep coming back to berseria. I know im not the only one who thinks berseria's characters and their interactions are brilliant.
Like holy fuuuuk if anyone can recommend me a game that is similar to berseria in that sspect, i would greatly apprecoate it. I dont care about the gameplay dhhejsjd
@@lizzyleea another recommendation if you like You could try Ys IX Monstrum Nox (Action, JRPG, Adventure) Maybe not as good as Berseria, but i think several Bonding Events with bros in that game is actually good (the Protag is a Male btw)
Captain morgan is rum. But Eizen had the drink with ice. So i would think its Some type Whisky since some people drink Whisky with ice. Not fully sure so either Rum or Whisky
I definitely ship these two as friends (though My OTP in this game is Rokurou and Velvet and I think Rokurou acknowledge that, but it could be just me...)
@@gamerprince-tl5hg Yeah, Eizen is more of a right hand man to her than Roku is, and I think that makes them closer. I started to notice from the moment they had the private Shigure talk in Vester Tunnels about deciding to intervene.
Rokurou and Eleanor makes way more since and I ain't even a "shipping" kinda guy and Eizen and Velvet make more sense because they have a lot in common like both being overprotective and deeply loving their younger sibling, Velvet transformed into a demon while Eizen is transforming into a dragon and some other stuff.
I went from thinking eizen was this boring edgy punchy guy that is always serious and has no personality to being one of my favorite jrpg character of all time
I've been turned away by the Tales Of series since Symphonia insulted my intelligence. Saw this on sale for 14 bucks, and decided to try the series again after something like 15 years.... I like it. As a game? Whatever. But the characters are pretty dope. Feels like old ps1. Magilou's my favorite because that bitch is straight nasty, but Rock and Eizen's interactions with adorable little Laphicet the Second are preeeeeetty great. And I love those two guys just talking naturally, too. Rokuro's a meathead that loves fighting to a detriment, while Eizen is a conniving prick with the soul of an artist. And I really like how the two older men mesh with Velvet's character... everybody has a fucked up dark side, but spending time with them helps you ignore that.... and then along comes Eleanor to mess that all up. The game is average at BEST as far as gameplay goes... Tales is still stuck in like 97. But the characterization has flashes of brilliance in it.
I actually felt that Laphicet is what ruins the character dynamics. He's even more of a goody two shoes than Eleanor. And he states the obvious way too often.
@@ItsXetren I feel ya. The way I see it, he's sort of the way real kids do. There are odd points of trying to speak to him like an adult and coddle him. The characters are all trying to impress their values onto him, but also keep him safe and innocent. There's a cool duality in that.
@@Virjunior01 It's just a bit much most of the time for me. Then again, I'm also not a fan of children so that might play a part in my dislike for him. I just dislike having a character as pure and innocent as him in a cast of otherwise darker people. Eleanor doesn't bother as much in this regard because she at least serves as a good contrast to Velvet. She represents everything Velvet aspired to be before her life went to shit, it highlights just how much Velvet had changed. Of course, that could have been done just as well without having her in the main cast. Ideally, I'd prefer to not have Laphicet or Eleanor in the main group. I love how the main characters in Berseria aren't good people at all, it's honestly my favorite part. So having characters like Laphicet or Eleanor in the main group kinda puts a damper on that.
@@ItsXetren that's what I like about Laphi. I'm not a fan of children either, but just like the characters, you can feel this sense of "softening" that's very much at odds with their goals. You can sort of see Laphicet being "corrupted" by these real-ass people that have to get their hands dirty to deal with being dealt a bad hand in life. As far as Eleanor goes, the "corruption" is plain to see. Just like how the movie "Signs" was less about an alien invasion and more about a broken priest finding his faith again, Eleanor's part in Berseria is about losing that faith and becoming aware of the underlying paranoia and insecurity that plagues most of us. It's been done before, like Ellhaym van Houten in Xenogears (over 1300 hours in that), but I love that we get to hear her inner monologue as she tries to maintain her old values while Velvet and Eizen are just looking at the bitch like "mmmhmmmm." On that point, I do like Eizen and Velvet together. They have an unspoken understanding that Rock doesn't have, though there are still mysteries that Eizen only dares ask Rokuro about.
Wait Symphonia insulted your intelligence? I never played Symphonia before. Do you mean it was just too hard for you and it made you feel stupid or did it actually make you feel stupid for playing on an easy mode. That comment confuses me, what did Symphonia do to you bro, you can talk about it. Oh also check out Vesperia that one was really good too:3
I feel like there should be more scenes where two characters just share drinks and discuss their personal philosophies.
in japanese culture changes of cup means brotherhood I believes
Could have seen it by context.
It's amazing how good these writers are at both male AND female characters.
Most RPG characters aren't this deep - one gender is relegated to romance interest, the other to rivals, and are just satellites around an annoying MC.
What I especially find surprising is how I usually dislike the character tropes that Rokuro represents - the dark wandering ronin who cares only for the sword. And Eizen is not someone who seems to have much "character" at all, really. But in spite of that, I just can't help but love the two. They don't do anything to make me dislike them, and just keep doing things that make me love them. I like how Rokuro never feels like he needs to justify his obsession with getting stronger and killing his brother, even though nobody (not even me) understands why. And I like how Eizen seems rigid like a stiff commander, but he truly values freedom and everyone pursuing their individual interests - and being a huge dork about his own interests.
I think it's because it adds to the theme of the story. As they said, they don't have any logical reason for the following Velvet. Most writers would try to craft a good reason for characters who have mostly villainous traits joining forces. But this is a story about Emotions vs. Reasons. These two are just going with their gut, with what they FEEL like doing. As opposed to other stories, where people group up for a shared reason. These guys really just tag along because they like each other and feel like they should, even if there's no reason to join. And those feelings aren't just brushed aside for being unreasonable - just like how Velvet's aren't brushed aside when she learns the truth and knows how much damage her actions will cause.
I fucking LOVE this game!!!
and then we get arise which falls back into those tropes you dislike... fun game, but i love berseria more
your analysis made me love this scene and the game even more.
I bet you'd really enjoy Wild Arms 3
Nothing like sharing a drink and getting real with each other.
Those two are badass in my book and I love them both
WHERE ARE YOU PEOPLE COMING FROM XD
Gamie Master Edgelords Done Right, They Must Have Learned From Yuri From Vesperia.
This was my favorite scene in Berseria and just my favorite scene in any of the tales games. Acting was great, you felt the connection between to the two and gave great character development.
Was best when Eizen just straight up takes Rock's sake and goes exclusively for it... after initially refusing.
This was an unnaturally well-made scene.
I kind of love how REAL this conversation is, just two men talking and somehow starting to value each other as comrades
This is the best scene I've ever seen in a Tales game
It really is, and I skipped all of them after 10 hours in Symphonia.
@@Virjunior01 I did the same in arise.
I nominate Eizen and Rokurou as the coolest bunch of Bros like...ever.
Just played this games 10 minutes ago. I liked it so much that I came here to watch it again. I really like when characters have this kind o interaction
That man flies his fool flag proudly
Yknow seeing how arise handle their characters, i keep coming back to berseria. I know im not the only one who thinks berseria's characters and their interactions are brilliant.
Like holy fuuuuk if anyone can recommend me a game that is similar to berseria in that sspect, i would greatly apprecoate it. I dont care about the gameplay dhhejsjd
@@lizzyleea tried persona 4?
@@sleepfgc i never played nor watched persona 4 gameplay but if it is similar in that sspect i will surely try it :D
@@lizzyleea Nice ^^
@@lizzyleea another recommendation if you like
You could try Ys IX Monstrum Nox (Action, JRPG, Adventure)
Maybe not as good as Berseria, but i think several Bonding Events with bros in that game is actually good (the Protag is a Male btw)
A couple of rogues bonding over drinks classic
I forgot how much I loved this scene
So aizen gets a wiff of sake and rokurou gets a taste of I'll call it captain Morgan since its some kinda liquor
Captain morgan is rum. But Eizen had the drink with ice. So i would think its Some type Whisky since some people drink Whisky with ice. Not fully sure so either Rum or Whisky
The bromance is real. I ship it ;)
Lol how'd you find my video? This is one of the only ones that I haven't advertised anywhere. Also good to see another Nep fan.
Nah Zavied is real bro
Yeah, I Havent Seen A Bromance This Good In The Tales Séries Sense... Guy & Luke From Tales Of The Abyss.
"ship"
d i e.
3:54 A princess worth living for ❤️
So this is what the flash does when he's not fighting grodd
That skype notification
I had to exit fullscreen and check mine but there wasn't any lol
time?
The best of the game. What a husbandos.
I definitely ship these two as friends (though My OTP in this game is Rokurou and Velvet and I think Rokurou acknowledge that, but it could be just me...)
I think the most canon ship is Velvet and Eizen. Later on she talks to him a lot and you can tell she trusts him
@@gamerprince-tl5hg Yeah, Eizen is more of a right hand man to her than Roku is, and I think that makes them closer. I started to notice from the moment they had the private Shigure talk in Vester Tunnels about deciding to intervene.
But Rokurou is having a lot of scenes with Velvet like that training and i think that later in game she trusts him
@@TheSlammurai Yup that's the exact scene I was referring to!
Rokurou and Eleanor makes way more since and I ain't even a "shipping" kinda guy and Eizen and Velvet make more sense because they have a lot in common like both being overprotective and deeply loving their younger sibling, Velvet transformed into a demon while Eizen is transforming into a dragon and some other stuff.
1:50 **bloop**
Braden Hamilton 1:48
Where did all these views and likes come from? O.o
Desiderium from the mindscape
From people specifically looking for this scene because it's great.
I’d love to have a Tales of brand “Cold Ones”
The best bros!!!
I went from thinking eizen was this boring edgy punchy guy that is always serious and has no personality to being one of my favorite jrpg character of all time
I've been turned away by the Tales Of series since Symphonia insulted my intelligence.
Saw this on sale for 14 bucks, and decided to try the series again after something like 15 years....
I like it.
As a game? Whatever. But the characters are pretty dope. Feels like old ps1.
Magilou's my favorite because that bitch is straight nasty, but Rock and Eizen's interactions with adorable little Laphicet the Second are preeeeeetty great.
And I love those two guys just talking naturally, too. Rokuro's a meathead that loves fighting to a detriment, while Eizen is a conniving prick with the soul of an artist. And I really like how the two older men mesh with Velvet's character... everybody has a fucked up dark side, but spending time with them helps you ignore that.... and then along comes Eleanor to mess that all up.
The game is average at BEST as far as gameplay goes... Tales is still stuck in like 97. But the characterization has flashes of brilliance in it.
I actually felt that Laphicet is what ruins the character dynamics. He's even more of a goody two shoes than Eleanor. And he states the obvious way too often.
@@ItsXetren I feel ya. The way I see it, he's sort of the way real kids do.
There are odd points of trying to speak to him like an adult and coddle him. The characters are all trying to impress their values onto him, but also keep him safe and innocent. There's a cool duality in that.
@@Virjunior01 It's just a bit much most of the time for me. Then again, I'm also not a fan of children so that might play a part in my dislike for him. I just dislike having a character as pure and innocent as him in a cast of otherwise darker people.
Eleanor doesn't bother as much in this regard because she at least serves as a good contrast to Velvet. She represents everything Velvet aspired to be before her life went to shit, it highlights just how much Velvet had changed.
Of course, that could have been done just as well without having her in the main cast. Ideally, I'd prefer to not have Laphicet or Eleanor in the main group. I love how the main characters in Berseria aren't good people at all, it's honestly my favorite part. So having characters like Laphicet or Eleanor in the main group kinda puts a damper on that.
@@ItsXetren that's what I like about Laphi. I'm not a fan of children either, but just like the characters, you can feel this sense of "softening" that's very much at odds with their goals. You can sort of see Laphicet being "corrupted" by these real-ass people that have to get their hands dirty to deal with being dealt a bad hand in life.
As far as Eleanor goes, the "corruption" is plain to see.
Just like how the movie "Signs" was less about an alien invasion and more about a broken priest finding his faith again, Eleanor's part in Berseria is about losing that faith and becoming aware of the underlying paranoia and insecurity that plagues most of us.
It's been done before, like Ellhaym van Houten in Xenogears (over 1300 hours in that), but I love that we get to hear her inner monologue as she tries to maintain her old values while Velvet and Eizen are just looking at the bitch like "mmmhmmmm."
On that point, I do like Eizen and Velvet together. They have an unspoken understanding that Rock doesn't have, though there are still mysteries that Eizen only dares ask Rokuro about.
Wait Symphonia insulted your intelligence? I never played Symphonia before. Do you mean it was just too hard for you and it made you feel stupid or did it actually make you feel stupid for playing on an easy mode. That comment confuses me, what did Symphonia do to you bro, you can talk about it.
Oh also check out Vesperia that one was really good too:3
What's the name of the soundtrack?
Search my friend
“Time to relax” that’s the soundtrack
Skype? In 2017? Wtf?