I agree. Though I both don’t understand and understand Zaveid. Edna looks too young for now. Anyway, I can’t wait for 3000 years. Let’s look right now.
Pal, I don't know what part of the internet you were on but I saw male AND female players condemning that scene. Take it up with Hideo Baba since he's the producer. In fact, I've got issues with those types of scenarios in general where the guys are treated as the butt of jokes but that's a discussion for another day.
Coola131 Oh yes, that one was very mean spirited, (and this one is no better). making you pay all that gald for an insult like that doesn't help either. I think another reason people didn't like that scene is because Ludgar technically doesn't get a true happy ending, and again out of all of them, that one was the "most dickish" However, I can say that Graces is the only one to actually have a fair amount of fanservice for both sides and not be mean spirited for either side, or you can say, after playing the game and knowing the characters for a while, it's expected.
I feel like the hint given to us in the very first skit is that... Sorey and Mileo, are already together. as is- the two have been a couple even before we, the player, came in to the picture...
Helel Alexander Nope, I did a lot of research and it's confirmed. They just don't want to outright state it as homosexuality is taboo in Japan. So, no, they didn't throw it in people's faces like "Hey!! These two guys are a canon couple!" as that would reduce sales.
I really appreciated this, to be honest. They did a hot springs skit on the continent of Glenwood. Glenwood Springs, CO, in real life, is the largest hot springs pool worldwide.
I understand, I feel the same. :D No matter what Tales games come out Mikleo is my irreplaceable one and only. And according to Meian, Mikleo won first place in the Tales Festival this year (just last month?) as the most popular Tales character, with Sorey in 6th place.
Think of it kind of like echolocation - wind seraphim can see things without their eyes by reading the wind, that's how Dezel knows what's around him even though he's blind. So Zaveid's sending some winds to the girls' side to see them all naked and sweaty without running the risk of them seeing him looking at them. Make sense now?
Oh and btw, to support the analysis that sorey really has no interest in girls EVEN when in the sauna skit he clearly understands Zaveid's logic that boys/men find girls/women attractive, u should analyze that victory quote where Zaveid again asks Sorey if he doesn't think that girls look so gorgeous when fighting in a battle--to w/c Sorey answers "Sure" n Zaveid complains "C'mon" but Mikleo explains that he cant' expect much from Sorey when it comes to girls. So there you go Yaoi/bl haters n soralish fans... Sorey understands girl/boy romance and physical attraction--don't say he's just too naïve etc... He understands but IS NOT INTERESTED that's why his reactions are always so-so...He's not pretending to be casual or innocent. He's JUST NOT INT GIRLS, ok? So I'm happy SORMIK is canon and I wish people would stop flaming SORMIK fans who never doubted this OTP. The fact anime version is inserted Alisha in the romantic picture even confirms the fact that the GAME version is SORMIK and they have to downplay mikleo to apologize to Soralis fans... Still their relationship there's too forced and rushed so it looks so unnatural and unromantic compared to the game version... SORMIK lives on forever!!!
Uh, Sorey is, if gay means being eternally bonded to another boy--but no, since there is nothing homoerotic or sexual about their relationship. It really is just pure unconditional (and maybe) romantic affection that goes beyond friendship becoz of the way they are exclusively attracted and are attached to each other. The creators didn't want the gayness to be part of the story and so there's no reason for sorey x mikleo to act like gays itching to be together... that's why a lot of people don't understand or don't see anything explicit... But the confirmation is real... There's no reason to be upset about it becoz sorey x mikleo's demonstration of affection barely went beyond what you see among really close friends or siblings. The evidence is in the ending, most definitely, and the translations of the game in Europe where the lines are more romantic between them--plus of course the suggestions from Lailah n Zaveid (you can also include Sorey's rejection of Alisha in their last meeting... but that's up to you... Sorali fans would get upset of course...)
turquoise_moon I'd like to add the skit where Zaveid talks about what the wind carries (which included some sexual hints, of course) and then Sorey and Mikleo reply with "Stuff like /that/ do come up for us, but there's no way we'd tell you about it." I don't mean to say that this states they engage in sexual actions, but I'm trying to say it's not completely impossible. Also, Bandai has tons of statements where they said Sormik is canon, so I totally agree with you on that ^^ they just didn't want to outright state that Sormik is canon, since that would reduce sales as homosexuality is a taboo in Japan.
Allen Walker, I'm glad you shared this opinion with me... It's very rare that I find open-minded people who understand these things which are always denied by others even when they're so obviously there... I do feel that even the anime has many covert sexual innuendos that others who don't even know anything about ToZ point out to me (so it's like they're not biased observations)... I think it's wonderful that Bandai treats their relationship as decent--not exaggerating the romance like in so many BL and yaoi anime/fiction. I agree that whatever intimate relationship sorey n mikleo have, it's best kept between them--which makes it even more romantic, I guess... the innuendos though are always there as that conversation with Zaveid... That made me giggle too many times I have to admit... Plus a friend of mine who played the game too says in the Kabbala, only soulmates who fuse together can actually increase each other's strengths and when they do, it's much much stronger than those who engage in physical intimacy... I think you know what I'm getting at...:D
She's well over 1000 by the time ToZ happens, since ToB was 1000 years earlier than ToZ and Eizen said he'd left his little sister behind centuries prior to that. I feel like Zaveid's line here is to dispel anyone who wants to cry "pedophilia", even though it technically wouldn't be because she and Zaveid are like the same age, and both more than old and mature enough for relationships and such.
Always good to see the hot springs/Sauna events in Tales games and all. Very nice. but lose's points since you talked in it and ruined the mood a good deal.
the girls in this game spent too much time trying to change the guys.. let em be . sounds to me complaining about the guys when you should be relaxing is childish.
HE SAID BABE TO MIKLEO OMG I'M DYING
Girls part: Covered in towels and water.
Boys part: OPEN THEM LEGS!
Except for the one we all WANT to see more of…he has his ankle crossed over his knee. >.>
Zaveid: "No, not Edna! Maybe in another 3000 years or so, hah!"
*Eizen's consciousness as a malak/seraph returns*
Eizen: "ZAVEID! YOU SON OF A BITCH"
Grey Bañez i was thinking the same thing!!! but edna could kick his ass herself with no help from her brother
I agree. Though I both don’t understand and understand Zaveid.
Edna looks too young for now.
Anyway, I can’t wait for 3000 years. Let’s look right now.
LMAOOOO you know eizen would resurrect himself just to punch him and then return to rayfalke and die
I love how the guy's portion has more fanservice than the girl's.
Coola131 cuz if theres more girls fan service then the sjw/feminazi will complain
I know right? God forbid that the ladies who play Tales games get pandered to at least ONCE for a change. The horror.
You mean like in Xillia where all the guys were tormented by getting put in Teepo? That one was definitely for the guys, huh?
Pal, I don't know what part of the internet you were on but I saw male AND female players condemning that scene. Take it up with Hideo Baba since he's the producer. In fact, I've got issues with those types of scenarios in general where the guys are treated as the butt of jokes but that's a discussion for another day.
Coola131
Oh yes, that one was very mean spirited, (and this one is no better).
making you pay all that gald for an insult like that doesn't help either.
I think another reason people didn't like that scene is because Ludgar technically doesn't get a true happy ending, and again out of all of them, that one was the "most dickish"
However, I can say that Graces is the only one to actually have a fair amount of fanservice for both sides and not be mean spirited for either side, or you can say, after playing the game and knowing the characters for a while, it's expected.
Zaveid's voice actor most likely had a lot of fun with this.
He did. He said he was quite fun and an awesome character
is the va also the va for roy mustang?
I also thought that, but he isn't. Zaveid's VA is Ian Sinclair, while Roy's VA is Travis Willingham.
They sound so friggin alike, tho.
more like the va for space Dandy or Romano
Except Patrick Warburton has never voiced in an anime.
Lol tfw Zavied wants to hunt for babes but the only babe is mikleo and that's all sorey can really think about
Yes
I ship
(*Mikleo and Sorey that is*)
+Tales of Bravely Emblem This is canon
Our ship is canon
Gdi T^T / /
Miya Saavedora so canon my friend we rejoice and pop the party poppers.
Hoping for the upcoming anime adapt hoping this scene will be included lmao
Miya Saavedora
Did he just call Mikleo a babe? XD
1:16
how could you not?
1:16
how could you not?
Yes
how could you not (3)
SOREY THINKS MIKLEO IS A BABE PASS IT ON
Sorey honey, your gay is showing
soREY CALLED MIKLEO A BABE.
i love how the guy recording this points out how sexual this sounds.
I feel like the hint given to us in the very first skit is that... Sorey and Mileo, are already together.
as is- the two have been a couple even before we, the player, came in to the picture...
not cannon
I adore that people think Sorey and Mikleo aren't canon. it's hilarious
they arent canon there is no canon ship mate also sorey and mikleo see each other as brothers
Yeah. Burt and Ernie were brothers too :/
Zack Arin Fun fact, Bandai Namco stated that they're canon. And that Sorey is not heterosexual.
Allen Walker アレン・ウォーカー That sounds like a tumblr lie but I know Sorey isnt straight.
Helel Alexander Nope, I did a lot of research and it's confirmed. They just don't want to outright state it as homosexuality is taboo in Japan. So, no, they didn't throw it in people's faces like "Hey!! These two guys are a canon couple!" as that would reduce sales.
0:19 Sorey: Wel,l you are always half naked, Zaveid'' XD
rose looks like she's going to snatch lailath's towel any moment
+Darkwolf523 or sneek up on Lailah and dunk her head under the water, or both, i wish the icture was animated so we could see what she would do.
ikr
The manspreading is real in this video (looking at you Sorey and Mikleo) lol
Braden Hamilton Hot sauna + sweat + balls = balls sticko your leggo, the legs are getting spread
Now if only we could see more of Zaveid, too…
Zavaid and Jiraiya would be best friends lolol.
THEY ALSO KINDA LOOK ALIKE
I really appreciated this, to be honest. They did a hot springs skit on the continent of Glenwood. Glenwood Springs, CO, in real life, is the largest hot springs pool worldwide.
I love zaveid so much XD, he's great.
Uh....*Fangirl mind going out of control* Boys are damn hot!
I like how fangirls aren't really commenting on how... hawt Sorey Mikleo and Zaveid are.
I know rightXD
Elena Chu And Mikleo will always be my Husbando... no matter what Tales of games people will introduce me to, he will be my one and only.
+Ayame Himura ikr
I understand, I feel the same. :D No matter what Tales games come out Mikleo is my irreplaceable one and only. And according to Meian, Mikleo won first place in the Tales Festival this year (just last month?) as the most popular Tales character, with Sorey in 6th place.
2:33 - Rose looks like she's about to grope the hell out of Lailah.
just finished the game today, and i'm already missing these skit.
so sorey and mikleo are pondering the origins of sauna's while zaveid is
"reading the wind" don't know what that's going to give him
Think of it kind of like echolocation - wind seraphim can see things without their eyes by reading the wind, that's how Dezel knows what's around him even though he's blind. So Zaveid's sending some winds to the girls' side to see them all naked and sweaty without running the risk of them seeing him looking at them. Make sense now?
Mikleo!!!!!!!!!!!
Funny how in tales of berseria, it's the girls that can't relax and enjoy the sauna while the guys are like "yeah, whatever"... except for phi. XD
This part really confirmed my SorMik feels... Only one babe for Sorey dears, and it ain't any of the girls. XD
Oh and btw, to support the analysis that sorey really has no interest in girls EVEN when in the sauna skit he clearly understands Zaveid's logic that boys/men find girls/women attractive, u should analyze that victory quote where Zaveid again asks Sorey if he doesn't think that girls look so gorgeous when fighting in a battle--to w/c Sorey answers "Sure" n Zaveid complains "C'mon" but Mikleo explains that he cant' expect much from Sorey when it comes to girls. So there you go Yaoi/bl haters n soralish fans... Sorey understands girl/boy romance and physical attraction--don't say he's just too naïve etc... He understands but IS NOT INTERESTED that's why his reactions are always so-so...He's not pretending to be casual or innocent. He's JUST NOT INT GIRLS, ok? So I'm happy SORMIK is canon and I wish people would stop flaming SORMIK fans who never doubted this OTP. The fact anime version is inserted Alisha in the romantic picture even confirms the fact that the GAME version is SORMIK and they have to downplay mikleo to apologize to Soralis fans... Still their relationship there's too forced and rushed so it looks so unnatural and unromantic compared to the game version...
SORMIK lives on forever!!!
so, sorey is rlly gay?
Uh, Sorey is, if gay means being eternally bonded to another boy--but no, since there is nothing homoerotic or sexual about their relationship. It really is just pure unconditional (and maybe) romantic affection that goes beyond friendship becoz of the way they are exclusively attracted and are attached to each other. The creators didn't want the gayness to be part of the story and so there's no reason for sorey x mikleo to act like gays itching to be together... that's why a lot of people don't understand or don't see anything explicit... But the confirmation is real... There's no reason to be upset about it becoz sorey x mikleo's demonstration of affection barely went beyond what you see among really close friends or siblings. The evidence is in the ending, most definitely, and the translations of the game in Europe where the lines are more romantic between them--plus of course the suggestions from Lailah n Zaveid (you can also include Sorey's rejection of Alisha in their last meeting... but that's up to you... Sorali fans would get upset of course...)
turquoise_moon I'd like to add the skit where Zaveid talks about what the wind carries (which included some sexual hints, of course) and then Sorey and Mikleo reply with "Stuff like /that/ do come up for us, but there's no way we'd tell you about it." I don't mean to say that this states they engage in sexual actions, but I'm trying to say it's not completely impossible. Also, Bandai has tons of statements where they said Sormik is canon, so I totally agree with you on that ^^ they just didn't want to outright state that Sormik is canon, since that would reduce sales as homosexuality is a taboo in Japan.
Allen Walker, I'm glad you shared this opinion with me... It's very rare that I find open-minded people who understand these things which are always denied by others even when they're so obviously there... I do feel that even the anime has many covert sexual innuendos that others who don't even know anything about ToZ point out to me (so it's like they're not biased observations)... I think it's wonderful that Bandai treats their relationship as decent--not exaggerating the romance like in so many BL and yaoi anime/fiction. I agree that whatever intimate relationship sorey n mikleo have, it's best kept between them--which makes it even more romantic, I guess... the innuendos though are always there as that conversation with Zaveid... That made me giggle too many times I have to admit... Plus a friend of mine who played the game too says in the Kabbala, only soulmates who fuse together can actually increase each other's strengths and when they do, it's much much stronger than those who engage in physical intimacy... I think you know what I'm getting at...:D
Oh shit, waddup. I found you again (essay mode is on again-)
I just can't unsee Zaveid
I'm the only one in existence who sees Sorey and Mikleo relationship as a brother-like?
They've been raised by the same person after all...
Nah, they gay as fuck.
If you mean wincest, then sure.
You might call them... bromantic. ;P
nah, they gay as fuck
+Karupushi Watermelon
How dare you...
So...the second one...how do you get it? I can't seem to unlock it...
Zaveid is starting to remind me of Kamina.
Zaveid is like Zelos in Tales Of Zestiria.
Zelos is WAY more smooth though.
I love Zavied hes funny
ZAVID is hands down best. Character in the game
Yah blah blah blah something something that when I fell off my chair laughing
"That dose not sound right." LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!
Where can I get all three of those skits
Need to stay in different inns , dunno if the skit appears depends on the food.
Ohh and near to the end of game
all I can focus about is
Mikleo is a babe
sormik being almost nakeddd
2:33 OMG, Rose rapeface / gropeface confirmed.
Sorey... Lets go hunting for babes - Best phrase ever made
Yeah I have gotten tired of hunting Hellions anyway...
Zavied not interested in Edna xD
OMG!! It took me a moment to realize that this is Lu Bu xD Eyy!!!
Haha the babe is mikleo. Hmmm they should make a skit where they force mikleo into a dress
gibt es diese unterhaltug wirklich? O.O
Homeless Sephiroth?!
Seems like some hot-ass game
Well actually the fanservice is really really low in this game. This is pretty much the only scene and it comes pretty late in the story as well.
How do u get this?
what part is this
WHY DO SOREY AND MIBOY HAB DEY LEGS OPEN?!? 😅😅😅😂😂😂😶
how i get this skit?
Near the end of the game, in Ladylake's Sharoune Inn.
You can actually get them at any Inn, the point is that is at the end of the game!
I still wonder who hired these scriptwriters. Why would Zavied emphasize on "naked" ;-;
because he's a perv?....
Came here for girls fanservice and stayed for guys fanserivce lol
No homo
How old is Edna what is she 500 years old or something wow that's really old.
She's well over 1000 by the time ToZ happens, since ToB was 1000 years earlier than ToZ and Eizen said he'd left his little sister behind centuries prior to that. I feel like Zaveid's line here is to dispel anyone who wants to cry "pedophilia", even though it technically wouldn't be because she and Zaveid are like the same age, and both more than old and mature enough for relationships and such.
FUCKING CANON
And i’m sure there is pervert girls are coming here XD
Always good to see the hot springs/Sauna events in Tales games and all. Very nice. but lose's points since you talked in it and ruined the mood a good deal.
Unsexiest Hot Spring Scene Ever!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The english voices sound wierd to me. I always use Japanese for the text and words
So that's why there's yaoi doujin About this game...
People read way to much into scenes as I see in the comments, can't people just have fun anymore, lol
the girls in this game spent too much time trying to change the guys.. let em be . sounds to me complaining about the guys when you should be relaxing is childish.
Agree.
Don't call your brother a babe Sorey it's really weird
Minlow stfu it's not his brother you sick fuck
I just read ALL OF THE COMMENTS, and no one commented on the fact that the girls are wearing towels...in the water.
That’s how hot springs and saunas work.