@@davidnighten5553 same! The game doesn't deserve the critics, it is good and it is fun and it is an early access, a very early build. The game has so much potential and it is free 🆓
3 words: Stormgate angry coach I realise, that no one, including Winter, actually knows how it should be played. But it adds even more fun when coach tries to realise if the strategy is good or not.
5 armor isn't 5% damage reduction, it's 5% more effective HP. If you have 100 armor you don't have 100% damage reduction. The lancer shield ability (flat dmg reduction) is applied AFTER armor, though, which makes them super strong on high veterancy (if you bought the upgrade, which you should).
GIve me the sauce, what would be optimal start for lancers? Im trying to cook the lancers out fast and with the upgrade that make them run like mad lol
@@somehowrockingfloor3395 The sauce is the armor formula, which you can find by literally just typing that into google. Damage Dealt = (Attack Damage) * 100 / (100 + Armor) So for example if you deal 200 damage against something with 100 armor: 200*100/(100+100)=20000/200=100. You're dealing half damage to something with 100 armor (meaning the target has double effective hp), not no damage. With the damage reduction upgrade and max veterancy I believe gaunts deal literally 1 damage to lancers.
Always got at least 3 lancers being produced at all time. It's like the most busted unit for vanguard. Since it got like no cost and is soo effective for what it is
Great content ! In my bronze level games I almost never reach late game so this game was most entertaining to watch. Hope to see more Stormgate from you Winter :)
31:22: That flex 😄 I didn't even know the game had Carriers; literally the first I've seen of them 😲 Those Bombers are nuts! They definitely need to fix flying units blocking vision of those beneath them though.
Thanks for making this, I'm probably going to actually learn what this is about without playing with the explanation the versus a normal callout/announcement video!
the best way to deal with lancers is miasma. 8% life per second in a huge area is having like 10 weavers at the price of a hexen plus 200/200. the second best is stomp, thirds are hexen mines (50 + 5%)
note that this is not the standard experience, it has a 69% brightness, as you can start to see some of the ground details. which is the correct experience, FG should make it the default. they should also increase the contrast a bit (and then becomes the same atmosphere of SC2).
@@giuseppebonatici7169 Yeah the graphics can have more improvements, but it's also a bit disingenuous considering how many players play SC2 with appallingly ugly graphics settings because they want the performance. I don't do that though.
@@Leonhart_93 I agree. the is no evidence that graphic complains from ludites that doesn't understand the difference between style and lighting are really carrying any weight for any game's success. most problems with graphics are placeholders (aka game unit models) in cutscenes and awful default lighting in-game. but some will die on the hill that "I have too much Alzheimer's to remember that SC2/WC3 have the same general art style". do you remember the crying in 2010 for the graphics of SC2? it was ridiculous as it is now. (But, what I was saying is that moving the default slider of brightness to 69% would shut half of the art critics down, nothing hard to at all, or use that calibration style that winter is saying. they should just force a hard reset in the brightness of clients to that state, or issue an update so 69-81 is the new 100)
@@giuseppebonatici7169 Yeah honestly the problem for me if the visual clarity of things, more contrast, less brightness and more sharpness/less blurriness. Also, I would want that production structures are bigger/more distinctive. Every building being a small block is jarring.
@@Smelly13 Because if you keep adding all kinds of mini rules and exceptions it gets pretty crazy. It's like demanding that in SC2 select all army would ignore observers. Wouldn't that be very specific...
@@Leonhart_93 fair point. Not that I’m a huge F2 fan at all; I honestly try to use ctr groups only. However; I don’t think the F2 needs to be customizable into oblivion. But I do see a point of having versions of it to select more specificly than all army
@@Smelly13 It is actually "customizable", in a sense. You use select all, the "ctrl+click" an unit in the selection and it will select all units of a certain type on the map. If you do "ctrl+shift+click" it will remove all units of that type. But considering how bloody fast everything dies in SC2, you may not have that kind of time to do anything.
If exosuits are caught in a bad spot they will die, he lost his army around 13:00 because he ran himself into a corner. On open ground Infernals need Hellborns, their equivalent of siege tanks.
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My new favorite Winterism. 😂
Ignore the man behind the curtain, who is me.
...I am also the curtain.
More stormgate content please. I love it
Same!
@@davidnighten5553 same! The game doesn't deserve the critics, it is good and it is fun and it is an early access, a very early build. The game has so much potential and it is free 🆓
3 words: Stormgate angry coach
I realise, that no one, including Winter, actually knows how it should be played. But it adds even more fun when coach tries to realise if the strategy is good or not.
Hell yes brother
"there's no good anti-air for infernals. Nothing reliable" the more things change, the more they stay the same
If you make them the race with swarms of ground units, then they need to have some obvious counters.
5 armor isn't 5% damage reduction, it's 5% more effective HP. If you have 100 armor you don't have 100% damage reduction. The lancer shield ability (flat dmg reduction) is applied AFTER armor, though, which makes them super strong on high veterancy (if you bought the upgrade, which you should).
GIve me the sauce, what would be optimal start for lancers? Im trying to cook the lancers out fast and with the upgrade that make them run like mad lol
@@somehowrockingfloor3395 The sauce is the armor formula, which you can find by literally just typing that into google.
Damage Dealt = (Attack Damage) * 100 / (100 + Armor)
So for example if you deal 200 damage against something with 100 armor: 200*100/(100+100)=20000/200=100. You're dealing half damage to something with 100 armor (meaning the target has double effective hp), not no damage.
With the damage reduction upgrade and max veterancy I believe gaunts deal literally 1 damage to lancers.
Always got at least 3 lancers being produced at all time. It's like the most busted unit for vanguard. Since it got like no cost and is soo effective for what it is
@@deep_bob-wk6nhThey walk so slowly, though. Could be kited so easily.
I do like hearing your thoughts about the game, but also like watching your streams on YT!
Loving the game, great to see you enjoying it and having fun as well!
Love Winter content, love it before on SC2 and love it now on SG
Great content ! In my bronze level games I almost never reach late game so this game was most entertaining to watch. Hope to see more Stormgate from you Winter :)
31:22: That flex 😄
I didn't even know the game had Carriers; literally the first I've seen of them 😲
Those Bombers are nuts! They definitely need to fix flying units blocking vision of those beneath them though.
Hell yeah SG casts
It should also be noted that the Lancer version of the tower has higher armor, 20 instead of 10 (unless the melee version is different).
Thanks for making this, I'm probably going to actually learn what this is about without playing with the explanation the versus a normal callout/announcement video!
the best way to deal with lancers is miasma. 8% life per second in a huge area is having like 10 weavers at the price of a hexen plus 200/200. the second best is stomp, thirds are hexen mines (50 + 5%)
Good game, it looks progressively better than before. Hopefully it will get to be great.
note that this is not the standard experience, it has a 69% brightness, as you can start to see some of the ground details.
which is the correct experience, FG should make it the default. they should also increase the contrast a bit (and then becomes the same atmosphere of SC2).
@@giuseppebonatici7169 Yeah the graphics can have more improvements, but it's also a bit disingenuous considering how many players play SC2 with appallingly ugly graphics settings because they want the performance. I don't do that though.
@@Leonhart_93 I agree. the is no evidence that graphic complains from ludites that doesn't understand the difference between style and lighting are really carrying any weight for any game's success. most problems with graphics are placeholders (aka game unit models) in cutscenes and awful default lighting in-game. but some will die on the hill that "I have too much Alzheimer's to remember that SC2/WC3 have the same general art style". do you remember the crying in 2010 for the graphics of SC2? it was ridiculous as it is now.
(But, what I was saying is that moving the default slider of brightness to 69% would shut half of the art critics down, nothing hard to at all, or use that calibration style that winter is saying. they should just force a hard reset in the brightness of clients to that state, or issue an update so 69-81 is the new 100)
@@giuseppebonatici7169 Yeah honestly the problem for me if the visual clarity of things, more contrast, less brightness and more sharpness/less blurriness.
Also, I would want that production structures are bigger/more distinctive. Every building being a small block is jarring.
Gg looking forward to more!
Had a 2 hour game with a mined out map where only creep camps sustained us
the number one player in the world by Winter, its Winter!
Yes, more please.
PS you are taking over yourself😂
Maybe there should be alternative ‘select army hotkey’ for setting your preferred setting; like select all (selected) units
It's a slower paced game, it feels like there are no more excuses to taking the time to hotkey everything properly.
@@Leonhart_93 just a QoL feature. AOE4 does it and you can choose to select all units outside of ctr groups. So why not just expand on it 🤷
@@Smelly13 Because if you keep adding all kinds of mini rules and exceptions it gets pretty crazy. It's like demanding that in SC2 select all army would ignore observers. Wouldn't that be very specific...
@@Leonhart_93 fair point. Not that I’m a huge F2 fan at all; I honestly try to use ctr groups only. However; I don’t think the F2 needs to be customizable into oblivion. But I do see a point of having versions of it to select more specificly than all army
@@Smelly13 It is actually "customizable", in a sense. You use select all, the "ctrl+click" an unit in the selection and it will select all units of a certain type on the map.
If you do "ctrl+shift+click" it will remove all units of that type.
But considering how bloody fast everything dies in SC2, you may not have that kind of time to do anything.
P.S. Chrono Boost habitats work on turrets. And it's OP as heck.
thanks for content, even I don't care much for stormgate
good times, when people still explore the game
Do u remember the weird guy who talked to u and lokow at the gamescom years ago where they showed the new sc2 coop comander
Some celestial guide maybe?
terran has carriers now gg
more stormgate please please
I have been sprinkling them in at the end, they are pretty good with the bombing runs, but their normal attacks kinda suck tbh.
I'MA NEED ABOUT TREE FIDDY
can we get pro game stormgate casts?
honestly winter could cast my little pony it would be a blast!
1v1 maps are definitely too big and maze-like
Existential Crisis 8:00
The heli carriers need more better skins
Isnt this just like starcraft?
every unit looks like from Toy story or Lego war XDD
its this PVP?
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Ooo... Edutainment
So does he like the game? Very heated debate on the internet...dont trust fanboys nor the haters.
Everyone can check it out on their own now 😝
And definitely don't trust content creators. The ones who haven't been paid to promote it have something to gain if it does well.
Play it, it's the safest way.
Looks like a mobile game. From 2010.
i like, i subscribe, i make new account, i repeat
The zerg equivalent (Infernals) don't have a counter to the marine equivalent (Exosuits)??? What is this, wings of liberty?
i'd say magmadons and hellbornes are a good counter but we still dont have tier 3 for infernals, they're the most unfinished race currently
They have counters, but just like in SC2 a big ball of ranged units is strong.
If exosuits are caught in a bad spot they will die, he lost his army around 13:00 because he ran himself into a corner. On open ground Infernals need Hellborns, their equivalent of siege tanks.
Game is garbage, stop shilling it.
someone talking in the background, cant watch with that. its like hearing your own voice echo 🤣🤣
"Someone"
@@Burred11 Get a life. How sad can ones life get to correct comments. Its someone, not Someone as i wrote it like that.
@@andrewhobbs6056 "Life"
@@abilityup6734 You need one of those
No amount of paid content is going to fix this games bad art style
Indeed.
They can slowly improve it as they release the full game.
Sounds like it's time for you to move on bud. 🫡