Banana Pi M2 Zero: Low-Cost, Quad Core SBC

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024

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  • @tundeuk
    @tundeuk 4 года назад +61

    This guy has the voice of an 80s TV presenter from a program like tomorrow’s world. Instant subscribe 👍🏾

  • @robstammers7149
    @robstammers7149 4 года назад +44

    Love this channel, always has a retro feel to it, Chris you are the man, everything clear and crisp on screen, no gimmicky video crap, no shouting, or rubbish music, just you and your knowledge, thanks Chris.

  • @Mikefoxx55
    @Mikefoxx55 4 года назад +190

    The perfect Sunday morning, coffee, bagel, and explaining computers 👍👍👍

  • @Poifix
    @Poifix 4 года назад +58

    Man this guy just makes you smile. Such an awesome dude.

  • @TheTariqibnziyad
    @TheTariqibnziyad 4 года назад +28

    Support this man at any cost !!! he literally saves you years of college.

  • @adarshsingh764
    @adarshsingh764 4 года назад +121

    Chris is back to save us from boring sundays :)

    • @adventureoflinkmk2
      @adventureoflinkmk2 4 года назад

      Yay!!!

    • @aryeshsaini265
      @aryeshsaini265 4 года назад

      Adarsh Singh will you please help me building a desktop using PI4 in order from where to purchase pi4 board, cabels, power supply, cabinet ,cooling fan etc. Thanking you .
      I am from a village Muzaffarnagar ( UP)

  • @perrymcclusky4695
    @perrymcclusky4695 4 года назад +16

    It is amazing how much computer technology can be put into a board that size for that price. Thank you for the video and looking forward to your next video!

  • @tec4ever72
    @tec4ever72 4 года назад +18

    Luckily "a closer look" came back. I found out I somehow need it. It makes me feel home on your sweet channel! Much love to you!

  • @neatodd
    @neatodd 4 года назад +7

    It baffles me how you manage to post such high quality videos so frequently - I enjoy every one.

  • @panko2848
    @panko2848 4 года назад +277

    they should have made the board curved to closer resemble a banana, missed opportunity i feel.

    • @fredhair
      @fredhair 4 года назад +24

      Haha sounds like a fun idea if a little impractical with peripherals unless peripherals come in bunches perhaps?!

    • @KomradeMikhail
      @KomradeMikhail 4 года назад +25

      3D printed banana shaped case with yellow filament ?...

    • @dsmyify
      @dsmyify 4 года назад +21

      They should have made it yellow.

    • @petros_adamopoulos
      @petros_adamopoulos 4 года назад +3

      @@dsmyify Yep, and called it "Not a banana M2 Zero" :)
      But you are most correct because if the Pi stands for "pie" then it just has to be "kinda flat topped with appropriate color".

    • @bob-ny6kn
      @bob-ny6kn 4 года назад +2

      @@dsmyify ... but mine are all brown to black, and spotted.

  • @Hugatry
    @Hugatry 4 года назад +73

    I think answer to the question "Which SBC should I buy?" has been for a while and will be for a long time: Latest full size Raspberry Pi for beginners and general use, latest versions of Zero and A for those who need something smaller or cheaper and lastly, these Allwinner and whatnot based SBCs for those who need something more specific. Further away from full size Raspberry Pis, more tinkering is needed.
    These SBCs are often good on paper, disappointments after launch and then they become good again, when the brilliant team behind Armbian does their magic.
    EDIT: To clarify, my "Latest Raspberry Pi" answer is to beginners, who don't have real use case in mind and they just want to start tinkering. Of course all these boards are different and there are use-cases for all of them. Thanks to the popularity and community, Raspberry Pi is the easiest to get started with. It's not only option, it's not answer to all possible needs, but it's a nice board to use when taking first steps into the fascinating world of linux and embedded stuff.

    • @Sithhy
      @Sithhy 4 года назад +1

      I think it's mainly a choice between power on small formfactor vs. affordability & community

    • @GooogleGoglee
      @GooogleGoglee 4 года назад +1

      @@Sithhy and connectivity

    • @sethrd999
      @sethrd999 4 года назад +1

      Like I said in my main reply most who use SBC's normally have a use case for it, not the oh look something cheap and shiny knee jerk purchaser.
      Personally ive got a few SBC's all doing stuff ( mainly building images / kernels ) everything from Beagle / Panda / Bones from Ti to Rock64/pro64's along with some RiscV systems with FPGA's, everything else is smaller Iron ( Cortex M and below needing at RTOS ) ..
      In the case of AllWinner the SBC's are very powerful no doubt about that, but like I said its the lack of BSP / Documentation that lets it down. But the caveat is this is the Linux world not Windows with binary proprietary drivers so in this space which is still very much in flux you have to take the bumps in the road in your stride. It is so inappropriate to expect 100% out of the box operation, if you want that stick with PC's and windows.
      I think you mean the amazing kernel team that provides the core to any and all SBC's and maintainers that make SBC's perform better pretty much with every new release.

    • @mikem9536
      @mikem9536 4 года назад

      @@sethrd999 Only real use I see for these SBC's would be running a Kodi box, and even then, the GPU performance is lacking for true 1080p 60 fps, and forget anything higher.

    • @sethrd999
      @sethrd999 4 года назад

      @@mikem9536 Mali is quite surprisingly powerful, I think they lend more to robotics / drones tbh. Many add on possibilites for that area with the GPIO's. Kodi in 512MB is a stretch.

  • @ozzymandius666
    @ozzymandius666 4 года назад +1

    I find it encouraging that this has hot the market. I look forward to the day that a 1080p-capable SBC retails for under $20.00, bringing total media freedom to the people!

  • @38plymouth80
    @38plymouth80 4 года назад +158

    Watching that bag cutting it looks like Mr Scissors needs Mrs Sharpener.

    • @MacroPheliac
      @MacroPheliac 4 года назад +10

      What bothered me was the bag had precut notches in it, making the scissors completely unnecessary XD

    • @Rudofaux
      @Rudofaux 4 года назад +7

      @@MacroPheliac Yeah, but do those ever work right? The bag always rips open horribly using the pre-cuts.

    • @MacroPheliac
      @MacroPheliac 4 года назад +3

      @@Rudofaux yeah it does make for a crooked tear most of the time.

    • @Rudofaux
      @Rudofaux 4 года назад +4

      @Ejuice Vaper or, I can simply use scissors.

    • @HKey_Root
      @HKey_Root 4 года назад

      I couldn't help but notice that in another vid you demonstrated how to open these bags sans scissors! ;)

  • @MarcusTechKat
    @MarcusTechKat 4 года назад +278

    Anyone: "Surely, you wouldn't want to run a word processor on 512MB of RAM?"
    Chris: "I would, and don't call me Shirley."

    • @ivorjawa
      @ivorjawa 4 года назад +26

      *laughs in C=64 GEOS*

    • @thegardenofeatin5965
      @thegardenofeatin5965 4 года назад +4

      I wonder how many instances of Wordgrinder would fit in 512MB?

    • @mikem9536
      @mikem9536 4 года назад +5

      512 MB's of RAM? Is this 2005?

    • @ninline2000
      @ninline2000 4 года назад +13

      @@ivorjawa I ran Speedscript on my C64. I told my Grandson that I typed it in out of a magazine listing and he just stared at me like he couldn't believe it.

    • @ninline2000
      @ninline2000 4 года назад +9

      @Benjamin Muller That's how I learned about backups! I had been typing that listing in for 3 hours and my daughter tripped over the power brick for the C64. I then started saving my work every 15 minutes or so.

  • @neurobioboy
    @neurobioboy 4 года назад +5

    I am impressed by this little board! It looks like a Rpi 2B in the form factor of a 0W. If only software support was better, this would be a killer one. Thank you, Chris, for your nice video!

  • @pnnytx
    @pnnytx 4 года назад +1

    Sunday afternoon isn't complete without your video.

  • @MichelMorinMontreal
    @MichelMorinMontreal 4 года назад +3

    Greetings! As you have pointed out many times, software support remains a fundamental reference in the evaluation of SBC. Once again, you have made an eloquent demonstration of this.

  • @ridefast0
    @ridefast0 4 года назад +2

    Hi Chris - your channel is now my go-to for SBC work; your clear configuration instructions are always useful and always seem to work for me, and I am tempted to dip my toe in the water again for a new project! Likely to be R.Pi4 under Raspbian.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад

      Thanks for this, appreciated. Have you seen the 2GB RAM Pi 4 is now $35. Very hard to beat.

    • @ridefast0
      @ridefast0 4 года назад

      @@ExplainingComputers Oh no, catastrophe! I found out that RPi4 (unlike RPi3) cannot be booted directly from USB/SSD. I don't trust the SD cards for a reliable system drive so the project will have to wait for RPi foundation fix.

  • @srtcsb
    @srtcsb 4 года назад +6

    Interesting. It's good to have options, especially for these smaller SBC's. I'm not sure the Banana Pi is worth twice as much $$ as the RPi Zero, but it's not a bad option (otherwise) if your project needs both speed and a compact size. Thanks for another great video Chris.

  • @steveshadowphoto9346
    @steveshadowphoto9346 4 года назад +2

    Another great video! As others have noted, it was made all the better by an appearance of Mr. Scissors. With respect to the Banana Pi, I, myself, am waiting for the Plantain Pi M2 Zero before taking the plunge!

  • @flioink
    @flioink 4 года назад +8

    These systems on a chip a more powerful than my "gaming" PC from the early 2000's. Good stuff.

    • @deadadam666
      @deadadam666 4 года назад +2

      i remember giving my amd k6-2 64mb ram back in the day and thinking it was a beast ........ now i have smart watches an order of magnitude faster

    • @flioink
      @flioink 4 года назад +1

      @@deadadam666 Yes, I remember buying a 32mb RAM stick and it improved the pc performance substantially.

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu 4 года назад

      Maybe on CPU side it is, but highly unlikely that this sbc has stronger GPU.

    • @davkdavk
      @davkdavk 3 года назад

      @@deadadam666 i did the same just for Quake 3

  • @zakafx
    @zakafx 4 года назад +13

    I love this channel and getting this notification every week.

  • @JohnDoe-tm2sc
    @JohnDoe-tm2sc 4 года назад +25

    I'd say extra $5 is totally worth for Pi 3A. Did you try to solder all those 40 GPIOs? Not mentioning performance....

    • @Promilus1984
      @Promilus1984 4 года назад +5

      Well if you need something smaller than Pi3 then it doesn't matter. If you don't need Pi0 W form factor then you can get e.g. NanoPi NEO2 LTS with Allwinner H5 with fairly similar performance to Raspberry Pi3 and with similar price to that BananaPi M2 Zero - so still pretty cheap and powerful; or you can aim for OrangePi Zero Plus H5 with similar form factor na WiFi instead of Ethernet. It's not like it was few years back when you didn't really have much of the competition. Now there's plenty of decent SBCs and with Armbian's more mature support for H2+/H3/H5 they are usually best bang for a bucks if raw performance is what you seek.

    • @JohnDoe-tm2sc
      @JohnDoe-tm2sc 4 года назад

      @@Promilus1984 That was a great comment. Thanks. Just a remark - I do realize that there is wide variety SBCs available on the market these days. I simply was following the selection presented in this video.

    • @fakshen1973
      @fakshen1973 4 года назад

      If you're designing from scratch and have the room for the larger form factor... yes. The faster speed is great. One thing that wasn't touched was power draw. There may be some advantages between the different models if current draw comes into play... especially for battery powered projects where the unit will need to be powered for long periods of time with short bursts of processing.

    • @JohnDoe-tm2sc
      @JohnDoe-tm2sc 4 года назад

      @@fakshen1973 Generally speaking yes, you're right. But some considerations : with Pi3 you have an option to downgrade performance (that is why there are 2 power feeds USB and 5V jack) and this Banana Pi showed temp core of 67C - makes me wander what is actual TDP of this set...

  • @VR360TV
    @VR360TV 4 года назад +1

    Another great vid, I always find myself watching your videos, thanks for a great channel

  • @codigoBinario01
    @codigoBinario01 4 года назад +5

    Thank you, nice to see the benchmarks as always. Keep them! Thanks ;-)

  • @MonkeyWithAWrench
    @MonkeyWithAWrench 2 года назад +1

    And here we are, 2 years later. Its August 2022, and right now the rpi zero 2 w is being scalped on amazon for 99 dollars, and sold out literally everywhere else... The bpi m2 zero, however is still available on aliexpress for $20.59.
    A possible contender is the orange pi i96. that board costs 6 bucks but is running ddr2 and a much slower proc.

  • @ChrisShadowens
    @ChrisShadowens 4 года назад +11

    G'morning, Chris and a very good morning to you, Mr. Scissors! I often wonder about the Banana Pi series (Orange Pi, too), thanks for video on this. Cheers!

  • @DanCalloway
    @DanCalloway 4 года назад +1

    I have seriously considered upgrading my prior purchase of a Raspberry Pi Model 3B+ to the Model 4. But, I just purchased a new Acer laptop with quad core 8th gen i7 processor running at 1.80GHz with boost to 4.6GHz. So, I'll have to wait a while. Great video!

  • @EverettVinzant
    @EverettVinzant 4 года назад +4

    I have a Prusa 3D printer. You can use a Pi 0 W with octoprint to provide a print server for the 3D printer. Using this I have enough power to attach the camera and create "videos" of the 3D printing process (and monitor the print). This is EXACTLY what I was looking for, I ordered one for that.
    Also, I have a Speccy Next on its way to me. I'm going to get another BananaPi and use it as the accelerator (4X the acceleration). Who doesn't want more power ;)

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +1

      Congrats on having a Speccy Next on the way. :)

    • @EverettVinzant
      @EverettVinzant 4 года назад

      @@ExplainingComputers I'm planning on doing a video about it. What could I possibly say that EVERY other person hasn't already said? I grew up using the C64, Apple II and PC. I never touched a Spectrum. I have no nostalgia for it, but am highly interested in it. So, I'm going to do my review as a first time user of the Spectrum.

  • @bartniaux8630
    @bartniaux8630 4 года назад +1

    Bonjour Chris, thanks for making my Sunday a pleasant day, even though it is a gray and raining. I am justday-dreaming away for a Rpi Zero Wx, with a dual-core, USB3 and 1Gb of memory.

  • @ghormann
    @ghormann 4 года назад +155

    Was I the only one who felt cheated to see "Hello" without "World"? 😁

    • @europeansovietunion7372
      @europeansovietunion7372 4 года назад +25

      Not enough ram for that. :)

    • @alliejr
      @alliejr 4 года назад +3

      Nope. If you’re gonna do it, might as well do it right. #k&r

    • @michaelburns8073
      @michaelburns8073 4 года назад +6

      'Hello' is only for non-programming testing of applications. You can only use 'Hello World' once you have stepped up to programming.

    • @jimlanigan7298
      @jimlanigan7298 4 года назад +1

      Remember. He said “it’s the law”. Don’t want to break that

  • @AndrewJackson2000
    @AndrewJackson2000 4 года назад +2

    I wanted to say... The future is here old man... But obviously you are much younger than me! Great video and presentation as usually. Keep up the good work!

    • @BruceHoult
      @BruceHoult 4 года назад +1

      2 Jan 1967 .. oh gawd he's four years younger than me -- I didn't expect that!

  • @nutsnproud6932
    @nutsnproud6932 4 года назад +5

    Thanks for the video Chris. I guess Mr. Scissors would have sulked if Chris ripped the plastic bag open at the indents :D Perhaps Stanley the knife would have organised strike action. Best wishes.

  • @yllib2012
    @yllib2012 4 года назад +2

    Great review and good timing. I've wanted to buy a Banana Pi M2 Zero for a while now. It is supposed to fit in "most" Rpi Zero cases. I finally clicked your link and bought one along with two aluminum cases from same seller. I've had a few Rpi Zeros since they were available. They are fun little SBCs but really lacking in power. I will appreciate the extra speed on the Banana Pi M2 Zero. I wish they could have fitted it with 1GB RAM but you can't have everything. I'll be looking for some retro game emulation builds for it.
    Not sure I will find anything but I will be content running Armbian if I can't.
    I even bought a couple of custom machined aluminum cases for the Pi Zero Zeros when they were available a couple of years ago.
    The aluminum cases I bought from the seller at your link look every bit as good as my old custom cases. Now to find a mini antenna for the Banana Pi M2 Zero. I believe it will need one even more once trapped in an aluminum case.
    I still get decent WiFi with my Pi Zero W models in the aluminum cases but it could be better.

  • @BagusSumanjaya
    @BagusSumanjaya 4 года назад +3

    Nice Mr. Barnatt. Thanks to Mr. Scissor has unbox the banana pi for us to watch the review

  • @3dtemptube
    @3dtemptube 4 года назад +2

    Excellent stuff, especially the benchmark comparison. 👍
    It's always good to know board performance stats.

  • @Duewester
    @Duewester 4 года назад +6

    As usual, an excellent review. I always look forward to my Sunday Morning Coffee with you.
    The Banana Pi could be the step up that someone who is space constrained for speed and willing/able to do some programming.
    I see some comments that indicate that some believe that the developers of the hardware don't do enough software development. But, that's one of the beauties of OSHW and Software, the ability to make change and be more purposeful (was wondering if that was even a word but the spellcheck seems to like it).If you want little to none for hardware and software you buy into the Apple realm, if you was SOME software and lots of hardware you go the Microsoft route. When you want total control of it all, go OSHW and learn some Java or CircuitPython (shameless plug to the folks at Adafruit and the CircuitPython community), or C++ and Arduino.
    At any rate, I'll climb down from the soap box and say again, an excellent review and a great breakfast experience, for me anyway.
    Keep up the good work.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +2

      Thanks for this Mark -- always great to hear from you and get your view. :)

    • @3rd_Millennium_Engineering
      @3rd_Millennium_Engineering 2 года назад +1

      Please excuse the dumb question but, what is OSHW? I just getting up to speed with the hobby.

    • @Duewester
      @Duewester 2 года назад +3

      @@3rd_Millennium_Engineering Open Source HardWare. Basically all the plans for design and building are available to be used by anyone.

    • @3rd_Millennium_Engineering
      @3rd_Millennium_Engineering 2 года назад +1

      @@Duewester Thank you, Thomas. After I had discovered it's meaning (just before yoyur reply), I was almost going to delete this question but who knows, maybe someone else reading these comments will be starting at the same point I am currently at. :-)

  • @therealjackfisher
    @therealjackfisher 2 года назад +1

    These little machines are amazing, and this channel is something I enjoy watching. I just ordered my first two raspberry pi zeros. I dont know what project I wil use them for. Pi hole? Maybe. I have access to fast free dns serices, it will for sure replace my xbox for watching youtube.

  • @Simcore999
    @Simcore999 4 года назад +4

    Love those small form-Factors, and those reviews

  • @bergamt
    @bergamt 4 года назад +1

    One thing to keep in mind when comparing the Raspberry Pi Zero to other boards, it's been out for over four years and I still can't find anyone who will sell more than one per order, so be sure to add the shipping cost to each board. Really seems like it's being sold at cost or even a small loss.

  • @N0616JCProductions
    @N0616JCProductions 4 года назад +3

    From the size of a room to the Pi's... I can't believe how much we have advanced since.

  • @KISSbestfan
    @KISSbestfan 4 года назад

    Days like these, when I'm finally having an unplanned break from work are days to come and visit RUclips again.
    Thank you for your Banana Pi test. Although it may look nice, I find the specs quite comparable with the Orange Pi Lite which I bought back in 2017 for a similiar price. Sure it is bigger, and here the form factor plays a major role, but at least it outputs 1080p haha.
    I do hope to come back more often, and maybe nowadays I'd have a better opportunity to do so, since after 10 years I'm alone again. Oh well, talk about unfortunate events.

  • @HS-eq3gk
    @HS-eq3gk 4 года назад +26

    everything about this board and the 3A+ was so perfect...and then for some reason only 512MB of RAM? It just makes no sense to me to pair a quadcore with 512mb of RAM

    • @KanokYT
      @KanokYT 4 года назад +6

      I was thinking the same thing. 512MB is just too little to really do much with nowadays, especially considering it shares RAM with the GPU chipset.

    • @HS-eq3gk
      @HS-eq3gk 4 года назад

      @@KanokYT Yeah totally. I'd pay more for it if they had a 1GB variant, it'd be perfect for portable consoles.

    • @mikem9536
      @mikem9536 4 года назад +1

      I had a phone with 512MB's of ram, and even when using a "swapfile" web pages would crash on a regular basis. Not sure what the use for this would be.

    • @TomaszStachewicz
      @TomaszStachewicz 4 года назад +1

      @@mikem9536 It's not meant to be a desktop, gui-running machine. But yes, more ram would be the first improvement to do with Banana Pi Zero.

    • @servantsochrist
      @servantsochrist 4 года назад

      ypu can upgrade it easy with BGA skills

  • @MaxRobinson42
    @MaxRobinson42 4 года назад +2

    This board looks great for Octopi, as it has approx 4x the performance of the Pi Zero, and also is available more readily and without maximum order quantities or useless "value packs" like included cases and power supplies.

  • @stanpotter7764
    @stanpotter7764 4 года назад +100

    Opinions on the banana pi are split. I'll see myself out.

  • @daytonglitch
    @daytonglitch 4 года назад +1

    came back across this channel after two years and absolutely lost it at the intro music.

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 4 года назад +3

    Great video. I love these SBC vids. Very informative and nicely-presented. For my money, I would pay the $4 difference for the 3A+ just to have the GPIO connector already installed.

  • @Mmmm_tea
    @Mmmm_tea 4 года назад +2

    I love the zero, its an underdog! the stuff I have done with it is fun, I used oxm player to watch a high def video from the command line, I used it as a remote radio streamer with a usb sound card/speaker, even used it as a remote terminal just for testing compiling and running stuff on linux/arm, its pretty great just totally not suited to a gui / web browsing at all, barely enough ram not enough horsepower for modern sites.

  • @TimothyChapman
    @TimothyChapman 4 года назад +10

    "Coming up on Explaining Computers: Plugging the monitor into the keyboard/mouse combo unit."

  • @mibpro3030
    @mibpro3030 4 года назад +2

    Thank you so much Mr Brian for another great video showcasing a SBC.
    I am sure young tinkers appreciate you making this videos. You are great tech to those young tinkers, you are feeding those young minds to be the next Bill Gates and Steve Jobs.

  • @BharatMohanty
    @BharatMohanty 4 года назад +3

    Thankyou for this video sir. I was waiting for this . it will cost same as raspberry Pi zero w in my country.

  • @kakaoen4
    @kakaoen4 4 года назад +1

    Btw instead of writing clear in the terminal to clear it you can use the keyboard shortcut CTRL+L that will clear it right away. Super simple. Another tip for new people is instead of holding backspace in when you accidentally did a typo in the terminal to delete everything you can use CTRL+U that will clear every input you have entered but haven´t executed yet.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад

      You can, but this is a video, and viewers can see what I am doing when I type "clear".

  • @ArpitSharma-kk9tl
    @ArpitSharma-kk9tl 4 года назад +65

    sometimes I think why most of the creators are creating more number of SBC even at cheaper cost rather than they need to create softwares that make existing SBC more useful 🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +25

      There is so much truth to this.

    • @ArpitSharma-kk9tl
      @ArpitSharma-kk9tl 4 года назад +1

      @@ExplainingComputers Chris I have one question recently I hosted ASP.net web application in windows IOT device and for database currently I am using SQLite is there any way I can install a dedicated SQL software in Windows IOT device ??

    • @horseradishpower9947
      @horseradishpower9947 4 года назад +6

      One key reason I stayed with the Raspberry Pi. The software isn't the best, but at least it is well supported... and therr is a strong community, should you need help.

    • @sethrd999
      @sethrd999 4 года назад +4

      And who are they you speak of?, perhaps you need to give more respect / props to the Open Community that gave you the ability to use these SBC's in the first place. If you want better software you have the same rights and tools to do so.

    • @jyvben1520
      @jyvben1520 4 года назад +5

      @@sethrd999 they aka the firm selling the sbc, "lets by an electric car without decent software"
      wiki.banana-pi.org/Getting_Started_with_M2_Zero

  • @fusion9619
    @fusion9619 2 года назад +1

    This channel is turning me into a nerd!!!!
    And I like it.

  • @PS_Tube
    @PS_Tube 4 года назад +5

    Another EC Sunday, and another Single Board Computer. Thank you making boring Sundays fantastic. Yay !!!

    • @aryeshsaini265
      @aryeshsaini265 4 года назад

      Hey Mr. Piyush are you from lndia ? If yes I need your help. Being from a village in district MUZAFFARNAGAR , l want to assemble PI4 to be used as desktop . Kindly help me from where to buy it and other components ie. data cable , cabinet , cooling fan , charger etc. I will be thankful.

  • @sorbanbela
    @sorbanbela 4 года назад +1

    I think it is important to mention that Raspberry Pi Zero (W) has a selling limitation of 1 piece / person.
    There are no webshops as of now in 2020.03.09 i know about where you can buy more than 1 piece of the product.
    There is a Raspberry Pi Zero WH (wifi with header pins) version which can be ordered without limitations, has a price tag of 17$/piece (here in Romania from an authorized reseller) and i think it is the best offer in the market right now because of the connectivity and the price/value ratio. .. the only issue is that it is not always on stock - they make too little of it.

  • @MarkTheMorose
    @MarkTheMorose 4 года назад +6

    Harmonica playing: denied?!
    But... £8.95 shipping for this £16.99 SBC; makes one of the cheaper Raspberry Pi's look better value.

  • @BlUsKrEEm
    @BlUsKrEEm 4 года назад +1

    When in doubt, use Armbian. The Armbian team at brilliant, and very helpful when things get screwy

  • @learrus
    @learrus 4 года назад +5

    Holy smokes I love this tiny little monster!

  • @EarnestWilliamsGeofferic
    @EarnestWilliamsGeofferic 4 года назад +2

    Technically, the Banana Pi M2 Zero also has 100M ethernet. The four pins between the USB OTG and the USB-style DC connector are, left to right, bottom to top (if the USB ports are facing down): RXN, TXP, RXP, TXN. It can also be powered via the GPIO.

    • @iflnr978
      @iflnr978 4 года назад

      i am going to build a phone wifi presence detector for home automation using a SBC to trun on lights and unlock doors. wendel from level one techs wrote a blog about that, he used a RPi Zero W for this, but i haven't found his blog yet. while i'd prefer to use the BPi M2 zero because of the hardware, i'm leery of the software acceleration and compatibility. i'm also unclear of the dividing line between hardware and software, re video acceleration and OSs tailored for particular devices. i'm also wondering, if i'm going to run wire to power it, why not just run a wifi antenna to card on a computer and an OS in a container (ansible, docker, BSD jail). i believe wendel used battery power, but i might try wire. cross post: maybe

  • @johnsinclair3067
    @johnsinclair3067 4 года назад +17

    We in the "Colonies" implemented daylight savings time overnight... had to wait an 'extra hour" for this morning's video.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +4

      Ah. Yes, there will be a time change here in the UK soon too.

    • @jontallman3878
      @jontallman3878 4 года назад +1

      @@ExplainingComputers Well worth the wait!! Thanks again from Austin.

  • @AntonyShen
    @AntonyShen 4 года назад +1

    I have a banana pi m2 ultra, and still can not find same level of software support as rpi has; in my last try even Armbian didn't support it.
    In general for newcomers rpi is the best, however the hardware design and specification of the competitors' board are really enticing.
    Thanks for creating this wonderful video, I do learn a lot and surprised that it can run raspbian!

  • @benh9350
    @benh9350 4 года назад +5

    Haha, "I once threatened to learn to play the harmonica..."

  • @onepalproductions
    @onepalproductions 4 года назад +1

    Informative as usual, thanks for sharing.
    On a separate note, I'm sure many would agree it's high time the scissors were given a name, seems only fair.

  • @WorstChicken
    @WorstChicken 4 года назад +4

    For the resolution, shouldn't the hdmi_mode=16 not 31? Or is that 60hz and you want 50hz? Just a guess, I've only skimmed over it.
    Pretty neat little board and the 67*c reminded me of something.(Sort of unrelated)
    I recently got a pi 4 Model B and I'm looking to apply some heat sinks to the chips (Got the ICE tower for the CPU, AWESOME! Thanks for that video) and having a heck of a time figuring out what 'tape' I should use for the fanless heat sinks. Suggestions? (Too many posts that say they don't transfer heat and I don't want to waste money or fry the board/chips) THANK YOU!
    Cheers!

    • @KomradeMikhail
      @KomradeMikhail 4 года назад +1

      "Thermal Tape"...

    • @WorstChicken
      @WorstChicken 4 года назад

      @@KomradeMikhail HAHA Yeah, I wasn't going to put duct on it. I was looking for a brand or a specific link (affiliate maybe CB?) I didn't think I need to specify the tape needs to be thermal.
      I was reading about m3's 8810 and was getting mixed extreme results. Love or hate.

  • @flygux7282
    @flygux7282 3 года назад

    I am applying for this one from EE Times Taiwan(免費申請鴻海 Banana Pi BPI-M2 ZERO 開發板_電子工程專輯), this video is just what I need!

  • @daveseddon5227
    @daveseddon5227 4 года назад +6

    This may work:
    Go to /boot/bananapi/bpi-m3/linux
    open eEnv.txt
    uncheck line 40
    save and reboot - and your screen should now boot into 1920x1080
    If it works I'll try and find the source.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +2

      I will try this at some point. Right now, the board is packed away and other things are set up! :)

  • @LuisEMartinez89
    @LuisEMartinez89 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for coming back Chris! I really like your videos btw you dont an extra bpi for this humble follower hehe xD! Thanks for sharing this video! I enjoyed It! :)

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +1

      I'm glad you enjoyed the video. But "coming back", what do you mean?! :) I've not gone anywhere. There's been a new video on the channel every Sunday for over 4 years. :)

    • @LuisEMartinez89
      @LuisEMartinez89 4 года назад

      @@ExplainingComputers oh sorry maybe I get stuck on old videos from you! Anyways! Thank u! And btw do you have an extra banana pi laying somewhere that you can give me?🙈

  • @KomradeMikhail
    @KomradeMikhail 4 года назад +20

    They forgot to include the Composite Video pins !!!
    I like to stick an RPi Zero W inside of an old CRT television, and solder all connections internally... Turning it into a RetroPie TV.
    But the lack of composite out pins, plus the resolution issues, makes this board no good for that.

    • @ninline2000
      @ninline2000 4 года назад +2

      I'm going to try this. Most old style TV sets should be able to do 480i. www.amazon.com/GANA-Composite-Converter-Supports-DVD-Black/dp/B06W9LQDBB/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3Q7DWO7Z1NBBE&keywords=hdmi+to+composite+adapter&qid=1583680894&sprefix=hdmi+to+composite%2Caps%2C206&sr=8-3

    • @MrBrax
      @MrBrax 4 года назад

      @@ninline2000 don't. Old games are in 240p, not 480i. Looks completely different

    • @KomradeMikhail
      @KomradeMikhail 4 года назад +6

      @@ninline2000
      You don't need a converter box with an RPi Zero W... It already has Composite video out pins directly on the board.

    • @ninline2000
      @ninline2000 4 года назад

      @@MrBrax It looks a hell of a lot better than it does on an LCD monitor.

    • @MrBrax
      @MrBrax 4 года назад

      @@ninline2000 maybe, but I did testing over several months and someone made a 240p firmware, looked much better. I still have some test footage on my channel I think.

  • @thewiirocks
    @thewiirocks 4 года назад +1

    Now that I have one of these boards, I'm realizing something critically important about the Banana Pi Zero. They packed way too much CPU on this thing and not enough cooling,. Even with a heatsink, this thing thermal throttles like there's no tomorrow. The quad core chip is WAAAAAYYY more powerful than the Raspberry Pi 3A+, but it doesn't show up in benchmarks due to the thermal limits. If there was an easy way to attach a fan, this thing would kick some serious hind-quarters!

  • @halexp
    @halexp 4 года назад +3

    i had to lol at the Hello font size change ^^ i love you!!

  • @DavidJashi
    @DavidJashi 4 года назад +1

    The fact, that Banana Pi M2 Zero went into 1080p mode before video drivers kicked in, makes me think HDMI might be reporting wrong monitor capabilities to OS. Is there any way to tell OS to ignore them?

  • @JonnyInfinite
    @JonnyInfinite 4 года назад +9

    6:06 I can't see anything but BananaPIMP

  • @pasha6976
    @pasha6976 3 года назад

    Excellent !!
    I purchased this board a couple of months ago. I am trying to run the Kodi Leia for watching IPTV channels.
    Installed Armbian, so far it's the only OS that allowed me to somehow run Kodi.
    Because Kodi package is broken on Raspbian, all my efforts were unsuccessful, Ubuntu and DietPi, which does not officially support this board, are not loading.
    I overclock the CPU to 1.2 Ghz.
    While the Raspberry Pi zero reproduces 720p very clearly, the Banana Pi M2 has exactly the same content even in 800x600 resolution - complex video jerks,
    the sound, although reproduced normally, is out of sync with the image.
    All my playings with GL drivers and attempts to understand what is happening here with hardware acceleration have not yet been crowned with success, alas.
    I would be glad to advice how to improve :)

  • @chriholt
    @chriholt 4 года назад +3

    I'm waiting to hear you play the harmonica!

  • @MinstrelKrampf
    @MinstrelKrampf 4 года назад +2

    I gave up on Banana Pi products with their first model, because there are lots of little issues, like the resolution issue you found with this product. I also found that Banana Pi support is severely lacking. They definitely are a little faster than the Raspberry Pi products they are trying to compete with, but it's never fast enough to justify putting up with all the little annoyances theay have.

  • @bi5048
    @bi5048 4 года назад +6

    I watched his video from few years ago and today he looks like he doesn’t age a bit. Geek effect?

  • @weerobot
    @weerobot 4 года назад +2

    I want Banana Pie with Ice cream now...What a Beautiful little Board...

  • @xaropemacgyver
    @xaropemacgyver 4 года назад +3

    if put 1gb ram, this board is my next buy

    • @davkdavk
      @davkdavk 3 года назад +1

      Yeah, 1GB ram would make it a real winner

  • @immortalsofar5314
    @immortalsofar5314 4 года назад +1

    Funny, I've installed the server core on the Pi zero because when it's installed, it just has to stream the video across a network. If it turns out to be too weak for that, I now have an upgrade I can go to without a full-blown Pi4 - which, presently, is just for the controller and main display.

  • @BandanazX
    @BandanazX 4 года назад +23

    $20 is way too much when a pi4 2GB is now $35

    • @MiniRockerz4ever
      @MiniRockerz4ever 4 года назад

      ain't that the price of 1GB version, with 2GB being $45

    • @WilliamBurlingame
      @WilliamBurlingame 4 года назад +3

      The RPi4 is too large for some applications.

    • @prussian7
      @prussian7 4 года назад +1

      I have seen this board for $17 USD. But it gets to hot. I decided to use the 3 A+ instead and then I also will have dual band WiFi.

    • @iyidedi1724
      @iyidedi1724 4 года назад +4

      @@MiniRockerz4ever Pi 4 2gb is permanently $35 right now.

    • @prussian7
      @prussian7 4 года назад +2

      @@MiniRockerz4ever they just lowered the price of the 2GB version.

  • @OttosTheName
    @OttosTheName 4 года назад

    That's great, the Pi Zero's are still 12-18 dollars in the Netherlands because of the constant supply problems, these are about as cheap, you can actually just buy them (even thousands if you want) and it's quite powerful. Pretty much a no brainer!

  • @TheTwick
    @TheTwick 4 года назад +3

    “Hello” - it’s not just a good idea - it’s the law.

  • @maxzhao8625
    @maxzhao8625 4 года назад +2

    The biggest problem is that we can't find a good GPU support for the SBC whichever using the Allwinner SoC. It seems like that this company does not release their GPU driver for all of the open-source systems, only available for their business partner. I am a Chinese and I had a SBC named OrangePi PC 2, it using the H5 chip and the website browsing is like a shit in all Linux that I could installed.

  • @marcrives279
    @marcrives279 4 года назад +3

    0:24 The packaging looks like a medicine!

  • @tedoyle61
    @tedoyle61 4 года назад

    Very good review. I've seen these small board computers used as security cameras. This helps out based on performance and speed. Thanks so much!

  • @chiragkhare8664
    @chiragkhare8664 4 года назад +3

    You are awesome bro on my first look im hope this rpi zero w...

  • @jrioublanc
    @jrioublanc 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the video, interesting alternative card. I keep it in mind; fair price and fast enough for non-graphic applications.

  • @blueconcretezebra
    @blueconcretezebra 4 года назад +7

    "Allwinner CPU" Oh dear, that's never good news.

    • @Peter1986C
      @Peter1986C 4 года назад +2

      @@pilu9538 Software support being not entirely open source as far as I have read. Thus, it it will be difficult to get long term kernel/driver support because the Linux Foundation etc. have no way of maintaining code. At least that is what I understood, being a SBC Jon Snow.

  • @ojkolsrud1
    @ojkolsrud1 3 года назад +1

    It seems like the Banana Pi has TWO serial UARTS, which would make it quite interesting. I have a few projects where I've used the onboard UART and have had to attach a USB-to-Serial dongle in addition. Having two UARTS would eliminate that need, and I could free up the USB port. The fact that you can use an external antenna is also quite nice!

  • @EverettVinzant
    @EverettVinzant 4 года назад +12

    They would have scored if the board was yellow instead of blue ;)

  • @thedeveloper7677
    @thedeveloper7677 4 года назад +1

    this banana pi is literally better than all computers up to 90s :D

  • @will16320
    @will16320 4 года назад +10

    Mr Scissors oh yeah

  • @carriecorrea2541
    @carriecorrea2541 Год назад

    I love my little Banana Pi zero but I only managed to get Armbian on to it. Thanks for the review

  • @deadadam666
    @deadadam666 4 года назад +4

    harmonica reveal and recital video at 1m subs ? - go on ;)

  • @eric-janvandenbogaard9415
    @eric-janvandenbogaard9415 4 года назад +1

    As usual, a great review ! with all the important need to know's ! maybe a foot note that the 3rd Pi has a full HDMI connector, but that's only a small detail. Thank you !

  • @R.-.
    @R.-. 4 года назад +5

    Foolishly I thought having M2 in it's name would mean it has an M.2 connector.

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT 4 года назад

      With that little RAM I don't think it could really put an M.2 to use anyway

    • @handlebard
      @handlebard 4 года назад

      R Completely agree - clearly the name is just for marketing - enough to make me suspicious of anything from Banana in the future

    • @willyjimmy8881
      @willyjimmy8881 4 года назад

      Thats what i was hoping for.

  • @NexXxus86
    @NexXxus86 4 года назад +2

    Mali 400 should technically handle 1080p but it wasn't really designed for it.
    Its usually still used in lowcost devices nowadays and almost all of them have max 1280x720 or 1280x800.

  • @simonleferink1248
    @simonleferink1248 4 года назад +3

    80's show, 80's powered computers, 80's scissors and 80's hair!

    • @hagbarthr
      @hagbarthr 4 года назад

      I got my first computer about 1991. It had a 286 processor (single core 12 MHz), 1 MB RAM, 50 MB hard drive, and a 1.44MB 3.5" floppy drive.

    • @englishrupe01
      @englishrupe01 4 года назад

      @@hagbarthr Darn...you were stylin'..lol! My first computer was the awful ZX81 with 1k of RAM, no hard drive and a cassette player for data in! Wish i still had it though...lol!

    • @simonleferink1248
      @simonleferink1248 4 года назад +1

      Am I the only one which had a first computer with 512mb of ram

    • @simonleferink1248
      @simonleferink1248 4 года назад +1

      I am not that old though

  • @46pmw
    @46pmw 4 года назад +1

    Like what you do. 4m 18sec in the Banana Pi M2 Zero, you say double cost the $ is roughly two times while the pounds is only 80% bigger, my MS Excel says £16.54 should be £19.50 or so. Regards from OC from down under! 160km N of Sydney NSW Always learning something e.g. enter £ from my US Keyboard. Regards Phil