Going off the comments people seem genuinly upset that this video focused primarily on Nirvana, they are the biggest band within the genre and were 100% the reason for the level of success grunge received, regardless of who did it first or whether the quality of the music was the same as their contemporaries. I'm unable to cover every nook and cranny of a genre in these videos, this one was already much longer than my usual videos. It is likely this video will have a part 2, where I cover more information and bands within the genre.
I'm sorry your wrong. Nirvana did not make "Grunge" popular. Kurt Cobain died young and became a icon because of that. The Seattle music scene was the place to be in the late 80's. Artist were moving to Seattle from around the US to be part of it. Other Seattle based bands had mainstream hits before Nirvana. I enjoyed the editing of your video but it's pretty obvious that you don't know what your talking about. Your just reading Wikipedia.
@@perceivedvelocity9914 I rarely use Wikipedia. I didn't say Nirvana made Grunge popular, they were, however, one of the reasons it received the level of success that it did. All you need to do to see that's the case is look at the sales and chart placings before and after Nevermind.
@@perceivedvelocity9914 You're kinda right but also not. Nevermind was a pivotal moment for the movement as it finally opened the floodgates of the scene to the world. The music scene was bustling in the mid-late 80's and was definitely building towards something that would become mainstream. It just needed one group to push it over the finish line.
Nah dude. I get it what you’re saying but you messed up big time by not giving other bands like alice in chains and soundgarden and what-not, the respect they deserve. They did not ride off the wave of nirvana. Its a short video so you couldn’t go into much detail, i understand that but still. You missed the mark. It is what it is though.
@perceivedvelocity9914 I think it is you who is wrong in this case. There seems to be a belief nowadays that Kurt Cobain is only famous because of his suicide. I think this belief is common in younger people who were not around at the time. As this video clearly and correctly states Nirvana were the biggest band in the world. Nevermind sold millions of copies and even knocked Michael Jackson off the top spot for Christ's sake. Yes, other bands had success in alternative circles or college radio etc. but that's expected. AIC may have had some success but they were nowhere near the commercial success of Nirvana. Nirvana were fucking everywhere and to the average music fan they were their first encounter with grunge. It was due to the success of Nevermind that record labels descended on Seattle looking for the "next Nirvana". There's no way bands like the Melvins or Mudhoney would have gotten major label deals without Nirvana's success. So, no Cobain is not just iconic because he died young, he was in the biggest fucking band in the world, and they were a fucking great band too.
Shout outs to Iggy & the Stooges, Meat Puppets(especially Meat Puppets II as heard on Nirvana Unplugged), Black Flag & Flipper for helping influence the genre.
Grunge was a lot of things. Nirvana was the Punk, Alice in Chains was the Metal, Stone Temple Pilots was the Alt-Country Rock (kinda), Soundgarden was the Alternative Rock, Mad Season was the Jazz, Pearl Jam was something by itself, et cetera, but the one thing they all had in common was that they spoke of societal issues and personal issues in a very "frank" and "in your face" way, in their own unique ways. Nirvana's success did objectively give way to other grunge bands finding more success, but that shouldn't be confused with saying those other bands weren't themselves incredible and spectacular in their own and didn't work to achieve success (Nirvana merely gave them a spotlight, not fame). Nirvana appealed to the masses first in a larger sense, especially the youth (Teen Spirit), and still does to this day as a result of good marketing and good music. However, credit where credit is due, grunge was already starting to become popular, and Nirvana helped really push it over the limit, but it's hard to say if that would've happened without Bam Bam, Green River, Mother Love Bone, Mudhoney, and Soundgarden among others. You could spend hours arguing who helped who (because people's bias will get in the way, mine too), fact of the matter is though that 1983 - 1998 saw some great rock and influenced the rock scene heavily for years to come. And yes, many grunge bands go overlooked thanks to Nirvana's insane fame, but that's just what happens sadly. It isn't unique to grunge, nor will it ever be.
'grunge' literally isn't a genre, since pearl jam, nirvana, alice in chains, and soundgarden all sound completely different from one another and have different inspirations. For instance I love Nirvana but hate Pearl Jam. pearl jam - neo psychodelic-folk (drawing inspiration from 60's and 70's folk, psychodelic, and prog rock) soundgarden - slow metal (early), alt rock (drawing inspiration from 80's alt rock) nirvana - stoner punk, doom rock (drawing inspiration from slowed-down punk) alice in chains - slow metal (drawing inspiration from slowed-down metallica) P.S. many of the 'grunge' bands draw far more heavily from prog rock of the late 60's and early 70's then they do from punk or metal. Pearl Jam is very soft, not heavy at all, unlike punk or metal music.
I don’t think that’s the issue people were literally just salty Nirvana was getting talked about more than Alice In Chains and Soundgarden. Gatekeepers are weird man
I saw Melvins in 2000. There was phenicyclidine being passed around. I was walking home and ran into a race riot and got jumped. Then I made it to the after party of some friends wedding.
Sometimes I'm confused why grunge is my favorite genre of rock (next to indie rock). Most of the riff is pretty simple compared to heavy metal songs and the cultural influence was not as huge as punk. But i think that's what make me likes it, it just feels natural and pure. I sure love conceptual band/artist but i always find myself finding more comfort in artist/band that tend to do whatever they want to express their emotions without thinking too much about technicality. Like sometimes i just feel like i want to scream my lungs out and strum my guitar carelessly and feel all those emotions instead of going on stage and being really focus on what pentatonic scale that i should hit or how my vocal have to sounds. It just feels more pure
@ellie_olivia. If you're into heavier stuff, then you'll probably like black metal. The whole genre was invented as a middle finger to everyone else. It's pretty much everything you described but with a darker, heavier sound. If your curious i recommend bathorys first album, i think its a good starting point for the genre.
@@peepeepoopoo9109 lmao same thing happened to me. I kind of regret getting into black metal though because it ruined my taste in music. Its hard for me to listen to anything else now
Grunge is probably my favourite era/scene/epoque in music of all time. All my favourite bands, music, songs, and albums are either grunge or so strongly inspired and influenced by it that they could have never existed without it. Nirvana, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam are hands down some of the best bands of all time. R.I.P Kurt, Chris and Layne EDIT : completely forgot to mention that Foo FIghters is also one of my favourite bands of all time. Dave and co. rock hard to this day and are still honoring Kurt's memory, despite Dave losing another blonde-haired brother soul last year. RIP Taylor and Virginia
I didn't like the Foo Fighters at first. I was expecting more "grunge" and Dave went completely pop rock. It took me a while but I eventually realized that Cobain wouldn't want Dave to create a Nirvana cover band. He would probably be insulted by something like that.
@@perceivedvelocity9914 I wouldn't call them pop rock, but rather their unique blend of post-grunge, alternative rock, modernized hard rock, acoustic rock and melodic hardcore
'grunge' literally isn't a genre, since pearl jam, nirvana, alice in chains, and soundgarden all sound completely different from one another and have different inspirations. For instance I love Nirvana but hate Pearl Jam. pearl jam, soundgarden - alt rock (drawing inspiration from 60's and 70's rock) nirvana - slow punk, stoner rock, doom rock (drawing inspiration from slowed-down punk) alice in chains - metal (drawing inspiration from slowed-down metallica) P.S. many of the 'grunge' bands draw far more heavily from prog rock of the late 60's and early 70's then they do from punk or metal. Pearl Jam is very soft, not heavy at all, unlike punk or metal music.
@@perceivedvelocity9914Yeah, foo fighters was definitely a big departure from nirvana, but I love their music just as much, actually maybe even more than Nirvana. (That’s just my opinion) They did something that still stayed true to their rock roots, while changing it up so that it wasn’t just the same thing. I get pretty annoyed when people clump foo fighters together with the whole post grunge thing, cuz that’s literally saying that foo fighters is in the same rock scene as bands like fricking niccleback.
I hate that Nirvana seems to get all the recognition from those who really don’t know that they were legit the last of Grunge bands to spring up from the scene, Alice and Soundgarden were already ahead of them. Not to mention Screaming Trees, Skin Yard, L7, Melvins, and Green River were the other big ones Jamming before the big 4.
Yeah. AIC and Soundgarden both were SEMI popular, but you can't deny what Nevmind did to even the semi-popular bands. Hell, REM had been around for a decade and even they started selling more albums. I personally love Pearl Jam the most, but I can also see that Nevermind even sparked the Compact Disc into the mainstream as well.
Soundgarden were definitely helped by the success of Nirvana and Alice in Chains jumped on the Grunge boat after having started as a pseudo-Glam band, whereas Nirvana were always a Grunge band. You people seem to forget that everything was boiling in the underground before it got popular. Bleach was the most successful Grunge album of the 1980s, before AIC released their debut, which was closer to Alternative Metal and Guns N Roses than it was Nirvana or Pearl Jam. Listen to some 1989 performances of Man In The Box, it fits the Glam energy much more than the Punk energy. Not to say they didn't have punkier and grunier songs, but to say they were ahead of Nirvana is just not true.
The grungiest of them all, Mudhoney, remain in the shadows, showing that they are legit grunge to this day. You can hear their heavy influence on Bleach.
Thought I'd mention Stone Temple Pilots, they were from San Diego, yet are universally considered grunge and are often lumped in with the Seattle bands when talking grunge. I think the reason for this is because of how well they nailed grunge's overall style and tone of music. I don't mean to say they were intentionally trying to be like other grunge bands, but whatever they were trying to do they made grunge. And when they released their second album, Purple, the band moved into its own style of grunge that gave us some truly beautiful songs.
I think this is a great video, but you could have talked about the other bands beside Nirvana more. I get that a video should not be too long, but i still feel like this video doesn't do justice to Alice in Chains, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam. And i feel like the lack of Stone Temple Pilots is criminal. I know that theyre not even from Seattle, but they still are a big band and a big part of the grunge movement, even though they 'are not even grunge'.
I didn’t get why people like Nirvana so much until I’ve heard Milk it. When the line “her milk is my shit, my shit is her milk” dropped, that’s when it clicked for me.
i honestly find it annoying to get so upset over what grunge band someone prefers. grunge is technically not even a real genre of music, it’s more of a revolution-type thing. who cares if someone prefers nirvana? or alice in chains? or narrow head, for that matter? they’re all apart of the movement so just appreciate them all.
Grunge came from hardcore punk/alternative indie scene in the early to mid 80s, most grunge fans don't even know that.. With bands like Black Flag, Wipers, Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains, Butthole Surfers, Scratch Acid, Melvins etc.. it was grunge but underground
So true. Even in 90's a lot those hippies didnt knew that. I had many conversation with poeple like that. Grunge or early Grunge bands came out same time as many other bands from diffrent Punk styles directions in first half of the 80's. 80's, 90's, early 00's were big times for sound diversity in Punk scene. Only I dont follow bands list here. Most of them are not Grunge. But good bands 🤘 tho Cheers
Flipper too, they're mentioned as punk, even though a huge chunk of the punk community hated them for playing slow, but their tone & lyrical content was pretty damn grungy.
I used to think alice in chains is the greatest grunge band ever. Then i listened nirvana Nothing changed Alice in chains is still the greatest... Nirvana is solid top 3 at most for me..
I was expecting something about how for a large chunk of the year Seattle is gray and shitty helping lead to the more "darker" sounds of grunge, sorta like how it is in most parts of England lmao
Love your videos, grunge is my favorite genre, love sludge too and the Dopesmoker video you did… thank you so much for covering Acid Bath too… would love an ignorant guide to Noise Rock or Industrial, or something with TOOL
Bam Bam was the first real grunge band, just before Green River. They are mentioned nowhere in the genre’s history or in any books on the scene, and they need to get the proper credit and respect they deserve!
@@chizorama Definitely check them out when you get the chance. The song Ground Zero might be the very first grunge song. Tina Bell was an electrifying singer and Matt Cameron was in the band before he ever joined Skin Yard and Soundgarden!
i'm so old i took acid with the butthole surfers at a truckstop in texas at 6am. back around 1991. i hung out with them tripping balls, drinking beer, and watching their pet dog eat mcdonald's burgers until about 2 or 4pm at which time i had to tap out. when i was leaving i was like "wait you guys do this all day everyday?" and Gibby says "yeah! what of it, bitch?" and i was like "oh nothing! i gotta bitch out , tho." it was incredible.
This was the greatest explosion in music since Buddy, Chuck, Elvis made the scene. 1 day it's Pop and Girlie man music and the next this new sound is on top of the world. There's always good ppl and songs but I think the early 90s was the best I've been alive for. So many talented bands. Now it's all sing and play through a computer. No just sing and play anywhere, anytime talent. Alot of bands had real talent. Hell some wasn't even old enuff to drive yet and still put out incredible music, Frogstomp. Now it's just all the same. We need another Nirvana. Please.
@@malum9478 Well I see they really hung the bar low in schools huh? If I was old enuff to be a fan of Nirvana when Nirvana was a band do u think I was in 1991? No. I was in my teens. So with simple math that makes me Gen X. Not a boomer, zoomer. Yall need to take time out from views and likes and brush up on what a boomer is. Cause they was born between 1946-1964. But I'm sure u knew this. I feel bad for yall U got such a shitty education since they had to dumb it all down to get all to next grade. I mean whoever was in middle or high school during C19 still couldn't pass at home with smart phones that u can cheat with. We actually had to do work for answers with books. Those things with chapters and pages. Check 1 out.
Grunge isn't even a real genre. Nirvana was a punk band with metal and blues influences. Alice in Chains was basically a metal band with one of best vocal duos in rock history.
Good observation; Mudhoney was definitely punk influenced, & Nirvana was hugely influenced by them. The divide you mentioned is mentioned in the band Green River splitting, Mudhoney to punk roots & Mother Lovebone to rock roots.
Are you in your 40s and wear cargo shorts, Chuck Taylors, and a flat hat turned backwards with a goatee and flirt with girls 20 years younger than you? Then you may enjoy Nu-Metal.
No mention of Bam bam? They were part of the Seattle scene and defined the grunge sound years before nirvana came along but ignored because their singer was a black woman
Narrowhead is a new band that is keeping up with alternative rock they just announced their playing at coachella this year so it seems they’re getting more known ❤️🔥
i think theres two sides to grunge, theres the nirvana/melvins/mudhoney sound from Aberdeen WA, which is most popular today (probably because of media over saturation surrounding kurt cobain) and then theres everything else, like pearl jam/soundgarden/alice in chains. plaid wasnt really a part of grunge until you saw things in rolling stone magazine depicting grunge fashion as just a bunch of kids in plaid and jeans, and thats when it started going downhill
I agree 100%. Mother Love Bone was a bridge between the 80's sound and the 90's Seattle sound. His voice didn't really fit in either of those groups. I love how unique it is.
This is actually pretty spot on. I hate when videos just pretty much say nirvana pearl jam sound garden alice in chains the end and not everything in the pnw that led to this or the lesser known pwn bands from the 80s and 90s.
Thing about Kurt he is almost timeless he could easily fit in during the 60s with the hippies and he can look right at home now but instead of calling it grunge he would be like a hipster.But his reason for layers was he was self conscious about his skinny frame.so he would wear 2 t shirts a flannel or botton up and a sweater with long underwear and jeans and some how it turned into a entire fashion trend.He also had a thing with woman's sun glasses.Kurt also hated being labled grunge.He labeled himself as just a high energy rock n roll he never said grunge
they dont hate their instruments at all or most of what you said at the start, they smash equipment in CELEBRATORY fashion not hatred at all. Just juicy on stage adrenalin
Going off the comments people seem genuinly upset that this video focused primarily on Nirvana, they are the biggest band within the genre and were 100% the reason for the level of success grunge received, regardless of who did it first or whether the quality of the music was the same as their contemporaries. I'm unable to cover every nook and cranny of a genre in these videos, this one was already much longer than my usual videos. It is likely this video will have a part 2, where I cover more information and bands within the genre.
I'm sorry your wrong. Nirvana did not make "Grunge" popular. Kurt Cobain died young and became a icon because of that. The Seattle music scene was the place to be in the late 80's. Artist were moving to Seattle from around the US to be part of it. Other Seattle based bands had mainstream hits before Nirvana. I enjoyed the editing of your video but it's pretty obvious that you don't know what your talking about. Your just reading Wikipedia.
@@perceivedvelocity9914 I rarely use Wikipedia. I didn't say Nirvana made Grunge popular, they were, however, one of the reasons it received the level of success that it did. All you need to do to see that's the case is look at the sales and chart placings before and after Nevermind.
@@perceivedvelocity9914 You're kinda right but also not. Nevermind was a pivotal moment for the movement as it finally opened the floodgates of the scene to the world. The music scene was bustling in the mid-late 80's and was definitely building towards something that would become mainstream. It just needed one group to push it over the finish line.
Nah dude. I get it what you’re saying but you messed up big time by not giving other bands like alice in chains and soundgarden and what-not, the respect they deserve. They did not ride off the wave of nirvana. Its a short video so you couldn’t go into much detail, i understand that but still. You missed the mark. It is what it is though.
@perceivedvelocity9914 I think it is you who is wrong in this case. There seems to be a belief nowadays that Kurt Cobain is only famous because of his suicide. I think this belief is common in younger people who were not around at the time. As this video clearly and correctly states Nirvana were the biggest band in the world. Nevermind sold millions of copies and even knocked Michael Jackson off the top spot for Christ's sake. Yes, other bands had success in alternative circles or college radio etc. but that's expected. AIC may have had some success but they were nowhere near the commercial success of Nirvana. Nirvana were fucking everywhere and to the average music fan they were their first encounter with grunge. It was due to the success of Nevermind that record labels descended on Seattle looking for the "next Nirvana". There's no way bands like the Melvins or Mudhoney would have gotten major label deals without Nirvana's success. So, no Cobain is not just iconic because he died young, he was in the biggest fucking band in the world, and they were a fucking great band too.
7:14 Alice in Chains did not ride off of Nirvana's success. They got it by themselves. "Man in the box" was a huge hit a full year before Nevermind.
Yeah that's disrespect, they're not even the same genre as Nirvana
Same for soundgarden.
Yea the vid needed more Alice in Chains representation imo
I suppose he did title the video an ignorant guide to grunge so I’ll give him a pass but I was thinking the same thing as you too lol
"An Ignorant Guide to Grunge" there's a little bit of that in all the videos, like AIGT Black Metal
I swear you can’t talk about any metal genre without mentioning Black Sabbath and drugs.
Now you're starting to get it lmao
Glad to see you're caught up
laziness
It’s a very vicious and depressing cycle. Never ends
@@guyincognito143 How is it lazy that black sabbath is influential lmao
Shout outs to Iggy & the Stooges, Meat Puppets(especially Meat Puppets II as heard on Nirvana Unplugged), Black Flag & Flipper for helping influence the genre.
Neil Young too I believe. Specifically “Rust Never Sleeps”
so many people have forgotten iggy and the stooges smh, one of the best bands to exist
Grunge was a lot of things. Nirvana was the Punk, Alice in Chains was the Metal, Stone Temple Pilots was the Alt-Country Rock (kinda), Soundgarden was the Alternative Rock, Mad Season was the Jazz, Pearl Jam was something by itself, et cetera, but the one thing they all had in common was that they spoke of societal issues and personal issues in a very "frank" and "in your face" way, in their own unique ways. Nirvana's success did objectively give way to other grunge bands finding more success, but that shouldn't be confused with saying those other bands weren't themselves incredible and spectacular in their own and didn't work to achieve success (Nirvana merely gave them a spotlight, not fame).
Nirvana appealed to the masses first in a larger sense, especially the youth (Teen Spirit), and still does to this day as a result of good marketing and good music. However, credit where credit is due, grunge was already starting to become popular, and Nirvana helped really push it over the limit, but it's hard to say if that would've happened without Bam Bam, Green River, Mother Love Bone, Mudhoney, and Soundgarden among others. You could spend hours arguing who helped who (because people's bias will get in the way, mine too), fact of the matter is though that 1983 - 1998 saw some great rock and influenced the rock scene heavily for years to come.
And yes, many grunge bands go overlooked thanks to Nirvana's insane fame, but that's just what happens sadly. It isn't unique to grunge, nor will it ever be.
'grunge' literally isn't a genre, since pearl jam, nirvana, alice in chains, and soundgarden all sound completely different from one another and have different inspirations. For instance I love Nirvana but hate Pearl Jam.
pearl jam - neo psychodelic-folk (drawing inspiration from 60's and 70's folk, psychodelic, and prog rock)
soundgarden - slow metal (early), alt rock (drawing inspiration from 80's alt rock)
nirvana - stoner punk, doom rock (drawing inspiration from slowed-down punk)
alice in chains - slow metal (drawing inspiration from slowed-down metallica)
P.S. many of the 'grunge' bands draw far more heavily from prog rock of the late 60's and early 70's then they do from punk or metal. Pearl Jam is very soft, not heavy at all, unlike punk or metal music.
@@-jank-willson You are so down bad
@@susragejr477lmao, why, because they have an opinion?
@@Jeremy-hx7zj they’ve been posting this exact same thread on every single comment lmao
@@susragejr477 gotcha
some people need to understand that this video is a joke and not to take it seriously 💀
I don’t think that’s the issue people were literally just salty Nirvana was getting talked about more than Alice In Chains and Soundgarden. Gatekeepers are weird man
@@susragejr477exactly bro, people just can’t give it a rest. if people dont like nirvana, they dont have to shit on other people who do 😅
Nirvana is automatically better just because of their personalities, after watching their interviews the music just sounded even better
@@JacktheStripper-tc5pnnah
grunge songs will have names like fart baby or hand sanitizer and 14- year olds with substance abuse issues will think it's the profoundest shit ever
I'm actually 15 but ok
facts, ive got a demo ive named "ass poo"
How dare you. Territorial pissings is a work of art
Beans
@@ADayAtDusk exactly
Saw Melvins a month ago. Easily the best gig I've been to. Insane energy from the crowd and the band themselves seemed to have a lot of fun
they're still alive ?
@@Colter94 hell yeah they are. They were very alive at the gig I went to. Like I said best gig I've been to
Same, I saw them here in sunny Scotland, what a fuckin night. The place was bouncing man.
I saw Melvins in 2000. There was phenicyclidine being passed around. I was walking home and ran into a race riot and got jumped. Then I made it to the after party of some friends wedding.
You should've shouted, "I heard you were Kurt Cobain's favorite band." That would've made a good laugh....after Buzz kicked your ass lol.
Sometimes I'm confused why grunge is my favorite genre of rock (next to indie rock). Most of the riff is pretty simple compared to heavy metal songs and the cultural influence was not as huge as punk. But i think that's what make me likes it, it just feels natural and pure. I sure love conceptual band/artist but i always find myself finding more comfort in artist/band that tend to do whatever they want to express their emotions without thinking too much about technicality. Like sometimes i just feel like i want to scream my lungs out and strum my guitar carelessly and feel all those emotions instead of going on stage and being really focus on what pentatonic scale that i should hit or how my vocal have to sounds. It just feels more pure
grunge and indie aren't music genres lol
@@Brazhh what? I mean i understand 'indie' can mean anything but i say indie Rock and also this video specifically talk about gruge genre
@ellie_olivia. If you're into heavier stuff, then you'll probably like black metal. The whole genre was invented as a middle finger to everyone else. It's pretty much everything you described but with a darker, heavier sound. If your curious i recommend bathorys first album, i think its a good starting point for the genre.
@@lalito._.01lmao I was going to say I loved nirvana especially Kurt’s early fecal matter stuff then discovering black metal made my head explode
@@peepeepoopoo9109 lmao same thing happened to me. I kind of regret getting into black metal though because it ruined my taste in music. Its hard for me to listen to anything else now
Grunge is probably my favourite era/scene/epoque in music of all time. All my favourite bands, music, songs, and albums are either grunge or so strongly inspired and influenced by it that they could have never existed without it. Nirvana, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam are hands down some of the best bands of all time. R.I.P Kurt, Chris and Layne
EDIT : completely forgot to mention that Foo FIghters is also one of my favourite bands of all time. Dave and co. rock hard to this day and are still honoring Kurt's memory, despite Dave losing another blonde-haired brother soul last year. RIP Taylor and Virginia
I didn't like the Foo Fighters at first. I was expecting more "grunge" and Dave went completely pop rock. It took me a while but I eventually realized that Cobain wouldn't want Dave to create a Nirvana cover band. He would probably be insulted by something like that.
@@perceivedvelocity9914 I wouldn't call them pop rock, but rather their unique blend of post-grunge, alternative rock, modernized hard rock, acoustic rock and melodic hardcore
'grunge' literally isn't a genre, since pearl jam, nirvana, alice in chains, and soundgarden all sound completely different from one another and have different inspirations. For instance I love Nirvana but hate Pearl Jam.
pearl jam, soundgarden - alt rock (drawing inspiration from 60's and 70's rock)
nirvana - slow punk, stoner rock, doom rock (drawing inspiration from slowed-down punk)
alice in chains - metal (drawing inspiration from slowed-down metallica)
P.S. many of the 'grunge' bands draw far more heavily from prog rock of the late 60's and early 70's then they do from punk or metal. Pearl Jam is very soft, not heavy at all, unlike punk or metal music.
@@-jank-willson Holy fuck dude why are you copying the same bullshit argument in every goddamn thread
@@perceivedvelocity9914Yeah, foo fighters was definitely a big departure from nirvana, but I love their music just as much, actually maybe even more than Nirvana. (That’s just my opinion) They did something that still stayed true to their rock roots, while changing it up so that it wasn’t just the same thing. I get pretty annoyed when people clump foo fighters together with the whole post grunge thing, cuz that’s literally saying that foo fighters is in the same rock scene as bands like fricking niccleback.
I hate that Nirvana seems to get all the recognition from those who really don’t know that they were legit the last of Grunge bands to spring up from the scene, Alice and Soundgarden were already ahead of them. Not to mention Screaming Trees, Skin Yard, L7, Melvins, and Green River were the other big ones Jamming before the big 4.
They did it the best commercially, thus people think they are "the grunge band"
Yeah. AIC and Soundgarden both were SEMI popular, but you can't deny what Nevmind did to even the semi-popular bands. Hell, REM had been around for a decade and even they started selling more albums. I personally love Pearl Jam the most, but I can also see that Nevermind even sparked the Compact Disc into the mainstream as well.
nirvana were part of the grunge scene years before alice in chains
Soundgarden were definitely helped by the success of Nirvana and Alice in Chains jumped on the Grunge boat after having started as a pseudo-Glam band, whereas Nirvana were always a Grunge band. You people seem to forget that everything was boiling in the underground before it got popular. Bleach was the most successful Grunge album of the 1980s, before AIC released their debut, which was closer to Alternative Metal and Guns N Roses than it was Nirvana or Pearl Jam. Listen to some 1989 performances of Man In The Box, it fits the Glam energy much more than the Punk energy. Not to say they didn't have punkier and grunier songs, but to say they were ahead of Nirvana is just not true.
The grungiest of them all, Mudhoney, remain in the shadows, showing that they are legit grunge to this day. You can hear their heavy influence on Bleach.
Its crazy for me how you can make such good videos in such a short time. Love your content man!
Loved the narrow head addition near the end
Thought I'd mention Stone Temple Pilots, they were from San Diego, yet are universally considered grunge and are often lumped in with the Seattle bands when talking grunge. I think the reason for this is because of how well they nailed grunge's overall style and tone of music. I don't mean to say they were intentionally trying to be like other grunge bands, but whatever they were trying to do they made grunge.
And when they released their second album, Purple, the band moved into its own style of grunge that gave us some truly beautiful songs.
@aofmualthat's literally untrue
STP is severely under appreciated in my opinion.
Grunge has some of the best singers of all music genre
Okay now this is epic
Frr
you youtube people really are at least 5 years behind
I had never heard grunge until last year and now it’s my most listened to genre
Grunge is basically a mix of depression and heroin, which is great
That's Seattle in a nutshell...
One of my favorite moments of being a rock fan was learning grunge is more than just Nirvana, Chris Cornell is amazing
I think this is a great video, but you could have talked about the other bands beside Nirvana more. I get that a video should not be too long, but i still feel like this video doesn't do justice to Alice in Chains, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam. And i feel like the lack of Stone Temple Pilots is criminal. I know that theyre not even from Seattle, but they still are a big band and a big part of the grunge movement, even though they 'are not even grunge'.
I might do a part 2 at some point.
@@cooleaYou better make a part 2 and better make aic the main topic there, okay?
I didn’t get why people like Nirvana so much until I’ve heard Milk it. When the line “her milk is my shit, my shit is her milk” dropped, that’s when it clicked for me.
When Kurt said, "pee-pee pressed against my lips," I nearly cried. It's such a meaningful lyric.
So glad and surprised you mentioned narrowhead! Great band that deserve more recognition
i love seeing fugazi multiple times in this vid. although you’re insanely funny, you obviously know what you’re talking about. love it
i honestly find it annoying to get so upset over what grunge band someone prefers. grunge is technically not even a real genre of music, it’s more of a revolution-type thing. who cares if someone prefers nirvana? or alice in chains? or narrow head, for that matter? they’re all apart of the movement so just appreciate them all.
Brilliant work. I wish The Screaming Trees could have gotten a mention. They should have been bigger than Pearl Jam.
LMFAO this is a terrific video but the visuals are killing me 😭😭😭
8:48 Good to see some Narrow Head appreciation.
i was looking for this comment!
Such a great band
I’m hyped for this. I love your vids man such a great creator that I know is gonna pump out another banger
Grunge came from hardcore punk/alternative indie scene in the early to mid 80s, most grunge fans don't even know that.. With bands like Black Flag, Wipers, Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains, Butthole Surfers, Scratch Acid, Melvins etc.. it was grunge but underground
So true. Even in 90's a lot those hippies didnt knew that. I had many conversation with poeple like that.
Grunge or early Grunge bands came out same time as many other bands from diffrent Punk styles directions in first half of the 80's.
80's, 90's, early 00's were big times for sound diversity in Punk scene.
Only I dont follow bands list here. Most of them are not Grunge. But good bands 🤘 tho
Cheers
Flipper too, they're mentioned as punk, even though a huge chunk of the punk community hated them for playing slow, but their tone & lyrical content was pretty damn grungy.
I used to think alice in chains is the greatest grunge band ever.
Then i listened nirvana
Nothing changed
Alice in chains is still the greatest...
Nirvana is solid top 3 at most for me..
I’ve been waiting for hours! can’t wait ur videos are awesome 💪💪🔥🔥🔥
I was expecting something about how for a large chunk of the year Seattle is gray and shitty helping lead to the more "darker" sounds of grunge, sorta like how it is in most parts of England lmao
Seeing the Melvins this fall, really excited to see them.
Love your videos, grunge is my favorite genre, love sludge too and the Dopesmoker video you did… thank you so much for covering Acid Bath too… would love an ignorant guide to Noise Rock or Industrial, or something with TOOL
you remind me of a musical version of pyrocynical and I love it so much
Bam Bam was the first real grunge band, just before Green River. They are mentioned nowhere in the genre’s history or in any books on the scene, and they need to get the proper credit and respect they deserve!
Bam bam were closer to post punk than grunge but still had some influence on grunge, shame they were forgotten about
Never heard of them, but will have to check them out. My vote would go to the Meat Puppets however.
@@chizorama Definitely check them out when you get the chance. The song Ground Zero might be the very first grunge song. Tina Bell was an electrifying singer and Matt Cameron was in the band before he ever joined Skin Yard and Soundgarden!
Mudhoney is awesome also the melvins too screaming trees too
kurdistan cobain really cool
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@petetestube2904 what about soundlawn
Nice to see a Narrow Head mention!
i'm so old i took acid with the butthole surfers at a truckstop in texas at 6am. back around 1991. i hung out with them tripping balls, drinking beer, and watching their pet dog eat mcdonald's burgers until about 2 or 4pm at which time i had to tap out. when i was leaving i was like "wait you guys do this all day everyday?" and Gibby says "yeah! what of it, bitch?" and i was like "oh nothing! i gotta bitch out , tho." it was incredible.
1:09 I was SO happy when I saw that one short clip of Fugazi playing
This was the greatest explosion in music since Buddy, Chuck, Elvis made the scene. 1 day it's Pop and Girlie man music and the next this new sound is on top of the world. There's always good ppl and songs but I think the early 90s was the best I've been alive for. So many talented bands. Now it's all sing and play through a computer. No just sing and play anywhere, anytime talent. Alot of bands had real talent. Hell some wasn't even old enuff to drive yet and still put out incredible music, Frogstomp. Now it's just all the same. We need another Nirvana. Please.
listen to more music, boomer.
@@malum9478 Well I see they really hung the bar low in schools huh? If I was old enuff to be a fan of Nirvana when Nirvana was a band do u think I was in 1991? No. I was in my teens. So with simple math that makes me Gen X. Not a boomer, zoomer. Yall need to take time out from views and likes and brush up on what a boomer is. Cause they was born between 1946-1964. But I'm sure u knew this. I feel bad for yall U got such a shitty education since they had to dumb it all down to get all to next grade. I mean whoever was in middle or high school during C19 still couldn't pass at home with smart phones that u can cheat with. We actually had to do work for answers with books. Those things with chapters and pages. Check 1 out.
I think a video on no-wave could be pretty interesting.
One of my favourite genres. It's my teen years. Long live Kurt. Cool video❤
cool video, was waiting for this one to come out
I just realized that Skibidi Toilet would've been a valid Grunge song name.😭😭😭
@aofmual Wdym?
fuck me side ways you finally done it. this is going to be hilarious
Grunge isn't even a real genre. Nirvana was a punk band with metal and blues influences. Alice in Chains was basically a metal band with one of best vocal duos in rock history.
I think it's just like a sub genre of alt rock
Nirvana is more influenced by punk, the other “grunge” bands were mostly influenced by hard rock and metal
Good observation; Mudhoney was definitely punk influenced, & Nirvana was hugely influenced by them. The divide you mentioned is mentioned in the band Green River splitting, Mudhoney to punk roots & Mother Lovebone to rock roots.
Can’t wait for the inevitable guide to Nu-Metal video
Are you in your 40s and wear cargo shorts, Chuck Taylors, and a flat hat turned backwards with a goatee and flirt with girls 20 years younger than you?
Then you may enjoy Nu-Metal.
@@wayfaring_stranger1413bro? 💀
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"Take a metal or punk riff, slow it down, play it backwards cover it in feedback.."
Don't TEMPT ME.
No mention of Bam bam? They were part of the Seattle scene and defined the grunge sound years before nirvana came along but ignored because their singer was a black woman
Mad respect for mentioning Narrow Head
We need an ignorant guide to death metal.
An ingorant guide to industrial would be cool
Narrow head mentioned 😄😄😄
Narrowhead is a new band that is keeping up with alternative rock they just announced their playing at coachella this year so it seems they’re getting more known ❤️🔥
i think theres two sides to grunge, theres the nirvana/melvins/mudhoney sound from Aberdeen WA, which is most popular today (probably because of media over saturation surrounding kurt cobain) and then theres everything else, like pearl jam/soundgarden/alice in chains. plaid wasnt really a part of grunge until you saw things in rolling stone magazine depicting grunge fashion as just a bunch of kids in plaid and jeans, and thats when it started going downhill
Okay now this is epic. Okay now this is epic.
Love the Narrow Head shoutout
Waiting for "An Ignorant Guide to Speedcore"
truly a good recap of nirvana insecticide wasn't even mention as usual
I liked this video, your point was clear and well made, the humor was well placed. Success brings haters, ignore them and be proud of this video.
the editing was so good that I didn't even pay attention to what he was saying
1:00 grunge singers are always melodic and even catchy singers
FINALLY THANK YOU @Coolea
Thank you sm for this vid! I love the grunge from the 90s and I love the way they dress up like a hobo and I dress up like a hobo💘
This really does smell like something
child pornography
stinki
Very stinky indeed
I like when the little gremlin is on my screen
Andrew Wood is the underrated GOAT of grunge
I agree 100%. Mother Love Bone was a bridge between the 80's sound and the 90's Seattle sound. His voice didn't really fit in either of those groups. I love how unique it is.
mother love bone were the opposite of what grunge stood for
@@kurdt1012grunge is just about music
@@McGillicuddy849 grunge was a movement
ignorant guide to hardcore punk next?
“Play a metal riff, distort it” 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
"The downward spiral of grunge" i see what you did there
What was that grungegaze album Coolea said he liked, I wanna check it out now lol
Me too
narrowhead - far removed i would recommend satisfaction too
@@cecillianhater Thanks man, gonna give it a listen now
All the Narrow Head stuff is cool actually
Love the Narrow Head shout out 👍
man, ive waited for this and it finally here. Still dont know why most of genres are named like they are belong in a dumpster xD
Narrow head - Far Removed
Yes thank you! :)
I challenge you to make a video about this editing style coolea
Melvins were a huge influence to the scene. Most of the big four grunge bands including Nirvana wouldn't have existed if it wasnt for the Melvins.
Idk why but I like this style of video essay where you play memes for every sentence you say. I think it’s just my adhd brain.
This is actually pretty spot on. I hate when videos just pretty much say nirvana pearl jam sound garden alice in chains the end and not everything in the pnw that led to this or the lesser known pwn bands from the 80s and 90s.
4:57 Dave Grohl didn't join Nirvana until 1990, they used a different drummer on Bleach.
I mentioned that in the video.
i love grunge and i think this is the best guide to it
I lost it at 1:22 when you included Ivan Dorin's videos
As a North Texas resident Narrow Head is putting Dallas on the map.
Please do nu-metal next. I love korn.
I tell people that Grunge is just punk kids who actually took their adhd medicine.
Thing about Kurt he is almost timeless he could easily fit in during the 60s with the hippies and he can look right at home now but instead of calling it grunge he would be like a hipster.But his reason for layers was he was self conscious about his skinny frame.so he would wear 2 t shirts a flannel or botton up and a sweater with long underwear and jeans and some how it turned into a entire fashion trend.He also had a thing with woman's sun glasses.Kurt also hated being labled grunge.He labeled himself as just a high energy rock n roll he never said grunge
Bruh, amazing video. You made my day.
So glad there was no Alice In chains here, they're not grunge, they're metal
Big up for the Narrow Head shout out
This vid is rad af, also ignorant guide to death grips or jpegmafia when
NARROWHEAD MENTIONED 🗣️🗣️🗣️
What was the Grungegaze band you like, mentioned? I'm intrigued.
8:34 dont be dissin weezer like that man only we can do that
The first grunge song was Ibiza bar by pink floyd
ITS HERE!
rivers jumpscare near the end
they dont hate their instruments at all or most of what you said at the start, they smash equipment in CELEBRATORY fashion not hatred at all. Just juicy on stage adrenalin
As a grunge fan I can't stop laughing