Survivors of The Shoah Visual History Foundation: Anya Jolson nee Kotkowska Full Interview 1998

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024
  • The project "Survivors of the Shoah Visual History Foundation" was started by Stephen Spielberg after the release of the film "Schindler's List." Through this project, hundreds of Holocaust survivors' stories and testimonies have been immortalized, granting future generations the opportunity to experience a direct connection with history.
    Anya Jolson nee Kotkowska's story is told is a remarkable one. Anya lost many friends and family members during the Holocaust, including her parents and little sister. She married her husband, Leon Jolson, in the Warsaw Ghetto in 1940 and managed to avoid almost certain death in the concentration camps by going into hiding in Warsaw until the American liberation in 1945. This interview took place in August 1998, Anya passed away in April, 2002.
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    Interview of Anya Jolson nee Kotkowska are from the archive of the University of Southern California Shoah Foundation Institute for Visual History and Education. For more information: dornsife.usc.ed...

Комментарии • 40

  • @dorotagrodzka4742
    @dorotagrodzka4742 Год назад +11

    What a stunning lady, beautiful interview, thank you for sharing your story and the horror of the WWll

    • @flyboy1c
      @flyboy1c 5 месяцев назад

      There's an amazing footage of a Polish man recounting his time visiting the ghetto and his words while the footage plays. I'll never forget it as long as I live. It's a must see missing piece to the holocaust puzzle. You can find it in the middle and end of the video called "Beyond The Umshlagplatz" Which is a round table then shows both parts of the footage. MUST SEE

  • @jacquelinea3358
    @jacquelinea3358 Год назад +9

    I feel angry about this lovely lady being interrogated by this rude, gruff sounding interviewer
    She is awful. But to Mrs. Anya's, credit, she tells her story with dignity and warmth.

  • @lynhollon6257
    @lynhollon6257 9 дней назад +1

    These interviewers should have taken classes on how to interview survivors in a polite and respectful manner.

  • @shannon6448
    @shannon6448 Год назад +8

    Such beautiful parents

  • @carolwaldon8526
    @carolwaldon8526 Год назад +18

    Interviewer sounds like she’s doing an interrogation not an interview 😢

    • @Digitalmemorytales
      @Digitalmemorytales Год назад

      Nancy Fisher is an awful interviewer

    • @Jaem-wo8mh
      @Jaem-wo8mh Год назад +2

      I also noticed this lol

    • @OwlMinerva
      @OwlMinerva Год назад

      Why didn't her and her family do more to help "her" family. It seems as though she abandoned her family. She had the means and ways to help them.

  • @shannon6448
    @shannon6448 Год назад +13

    Interviewer not very friendly

  • @louisianagrandma3595
    @louisianagrandma3595 Год назад +3

    Interesting testimony. May you rest in peace.

  • @sarahfarrell8214
    @sarahfarrell8214 Год назад +3

    Anya is a beautiful woman. Her story of survival is amazing. It's so sad what happened to the Jewish people. The Warsaw Ghetto was so horrible, and then they burned it, that is a tragedy. We need to always remember. I would have loved to have seen Leon in the video and heard his side of the story. The bagpipes, marching, and the drums in the background are from the St. Patrick's Day Parade. You can tell that Anya lives in a beautiful apartment and a beautiful area in New York. The survivors are the winners in this horrible war. They did survive, and not only did they survive, but they flourished. Please always remember, always vote with the candidate who will keep your freedom. Thank you for your story Anya, it was amazing.

    • @eithankotkowski3836
      @eithankotkowski3836  Год назад +1

      Just got around to uploading his! Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/Yunq6Xp35IQ/видео.html

  • @vimontco
    @vimontco Год назад +3

    I would like to see Anya`s husband - Leon`s testimony. Does any one know?

    • @eithankotkowski3836
      @eithankotkowski3836  Год назад +5

      Just got around to uploading his! Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/Yunq6Xp35IQ/видео.html

    • @vimontco
      @vimontco Год назад

      @@eithankotkowski3836 🥰

    • @vimontco
      @vimontco Год назад

      Ty!

  • @user-xd9su4hn9x
    @user-xd9su4hn9x Год назад +2

    Wonderful, I love the fact that she still speaks fluent Polish after these years. I wonder does she actually consider herself Polish? Did she hang out with other Catholic Poles after moving to USA?

    • @Sad_Bumper_Sticker
      @Sad_Bumper_Sticker 2 месяца назад +1

      Are you aware of Polish antisemitism before the war, during the war and after the war?
      The surprising since historically insensitive question you asked: "I wonder does she actually consider herself Polish?"
      In the Polish antisemitic tradition Poles pre-W22 and in modern day Poland, Poles often accuse living and deceased Polish Jews of ""Living in Poland but not identifying as Poles", which is an antisemitic trope type question considering how many Polish Jews did indeed consider themselves Polish patriots only to be betrayed and despised by Poles at the outbreak of WW2. Your question historically was/is a Polish accusation directed at Jewish Poles, even though most of them had lived in Poland for centuries, some from the Middle Ages, yet often were accused by Poles of not being "real" Poles and being unloyal.
      With regard to Jewish attitudes towards the Catholic Church, you must be aware of the historical context of Polish antisemitism, a large portion of which was actively generated by the Polish Catholic Church (only in the 1950s was the Catholic Church banned from demonizing Jews and slandering them as "the Killers of Jesus" this is why (as also mentioned in this Testimony) almost all Holocaust Survivors who lived in Poland up till the end of the war often mention they were either beaten up or threatened on Easter by Poles. Since the 1930s the Polish Catholic Church published numerous official Catholic newspapers and antisemitic pamphlets, where a favorite headline was "What Should Poland do About the J problem?" and Poles since the early 1930s promoted antisemitic boycotts of Jewish businesses, merchants, craftsmen, calling "Nie Kupuj u Ż-d|" which translates "Don't Buy from the J". The Polish Catholic church also promoted and did not dispel an antisemitic slander blood libel myth that Jewish Poles used Polish Babies to make Matzo Bread. In early 1930s Poland, Jewish Poles were mostly banned from attending or working at Polish Universities because of strict official Quotas called "Getto Lawkowe / Lecture Bench Ghetto" where Polish Jewish students were officially forbidden from sitting during lectures and had to stand by the back end wall away from the non-Jewish Polish students.
      The Polish Catholic church only agreed to help those Jewish Poles who converted from Judaism to Catholicism - even in the Ghetto when their lives were in danger. And Polish Catholic nuns only helped and hid Polish Jewish children and babies if they were baptized and pledged to be Catholic FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. Polish Catholics were mostly passive and few helped Jewish Poles. There were 3 million Polish Jews in pre 1939 Poland so the high number of Yad Vashem trees is mathematically solely due to the high number of Polish Jews living in Poland pre-WW2 compared to other European countries.
      Also, Jewish Poles lived in Poland for centuries, Polish Jews were not monolithic and many of them were religious and assimilated and spoke perfect Polish. A common (in the 1930s and today) Polish anti-Jewish myth is that Polish Jews did not speak Polish well and were not articulate in Polish. Poles tend to ignore how many Polish Jews spoke both Yiddish and Polish fluently and how many Jewish Poles lived like modern 1940s Poles. Poles seem to forget Stanislaw Lem was Jewish as was Tuwim and many esteemed Polish Jewish poets.
      So considering the above and the bitter historic context, why on earth would she "hang out with Catholic Poles in the USA" if she was Jewish and followed Judaism?
      Because of the terror of the Germans hunting down Jews in 1940s Warsaw Anya's mother could only be buried if someone PRETENDED she was a catholic., since the family were hiding in Kopernika streeet in a hiding spot. Being buried as a catholic under a false name was a tragedy for the Family, not some voluntary "conversion": "Blima Joselzon, a Jewish woman from Warsaw who died in 1943 while in hiding, and was buried in Warsaw’s Brodno cemetary as Stefania Rudlicka, a Catholic. “She couldn’t even die as a Jew,” Barbara Blumenthal, 63, one of Joselzon’s two granddaughters, told the crowd this morning. "in August 1943, after several months in hiding, Leon’s mother died at the age of 64, leaving the family with the challenge of removing her body without being detected. A Jewish burial was out of the question, but Ambroziewicz brought Joselzon’s body to the Catholic cemetery in a box marked ‘ammunition,’ with the help of members of the Polish resistance, and arranged for her to be buried under the name Stefania Rudlicka.". "“I had no intention of moving her then,” Barbara told me after today’s ceremony. Instead, they put up a stone marker in the Catholic cemetery identifying Rudlicka as the Jewish woman named Blima Joselzon. In 1993, the stone was broken. Blumenthal blames anti-Semitic vandals; the cemetery cited strong winds. In any case, a replacement stone, laid flat on the ground, was installed.
      After her father’s death in August 2009 at the age of 96, Barbara returned to Warsaw. She enlisted Schudrich’s help in gathering a minyan at Brodno to hold a small service by her grandmother’s grave. Disappointed with the site’s lack of visibility, and moved by what she felt was her father’s late-in-life wish that his mother join his father in the Jewish cemetery, Barbara began the process of moving her grandmother’s body"

  • @RD-0101
    @RD-0101 Год назад +2

    Where is her husband Leo's testimony? I couldn't find it!

    • @eithankotkowski3836
      @eithankotkowski3836  Год назад

      Just got around to uploading his! Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/Yunq6Xp35IQ/видео.html

  • @barbarawright3319
    @barbarawright3319 Год назад +1

    The interrogator rather gruff

  • @johnhouston9764
    @johnhouston9764 Год назад +1

    Why are we told that the interviews are in English????

    • @davanmani556
      @davanmani556 Год назад +1

      They did it in other languages like Hebrew.

    • @malagarava4451
      @malagarava4451 Год назад

      I don’t understand to…we know deference English or other languages 🤷‍♀️

  • @rebacrow5604
    @rebacrow5604 Год назад +5

    Interview sounds cold and not very friendly

  • @margaretthomas8899
    @margaretthomas8899 Год назад

    Any relation to AL Jolson?

  • @evagueron7277
    @evagueron7277 3 месяца назад

    Un 92 😅

    • @Sad_Bumper_Sticker
      @Sad_Bumper_Sticker 2 месяца назад

      Why the smiling emoticon?? May Anya's memory be a blessing.