Excellent information. I've never heard it explained this way. I use a finger around the trigger guard grip, because I have much more leverage, and control over recoil, while mainly just using my support hand, for grip "strength". This allows my strong hand to stay relaxed, and let's my trigger finger be more fluid. But, what you're describing is to allow the gun to kinda do its thing, so it will recoil consistently straight up, and straight back down. I've got to experiment with this now. Thanks, man. I completely understand what you're saying.
I would recommend having a painted line or 2x4 that you can easily tell if your pulling left or right, also could record yourself with a GoPro or something.
wish guys would demonstrate these tips/drills with a stock everyday carry type gun with iron sights instead of these factory tricked out compensated red dot race guns.
Look up the 1990 uspsa nationals. This man lived through an era where all they had were iron sights 1911s and he would have seen comps, .38supercomp, Tasco dots, double stack 2011s. And other technology we take for granted now develop. If you tinker with 1911s even a little you recognize his last name.
For all these people bitching about how he has a gun worth thousands or having a "pistol that is so smooth and refined it has a lot less muzzle rise, slide mass and spring tension of a stock pistol" blah blah blah. Take a minute and read the title of the video. Go ahead, I'll wait. Ohhhh shit. It says "Competitive Shooting Tips". It doesn't say "tactical tips for your defensive carry. It doesn't say "shoot faster with defensive ammo." No- it says Competitive Shooting Tips.
@@CramcrumBrewbringer yeah, followed by “Competitive shooting tips” 😂😂. I love the fact that you called me a retard like you’re 12 years old, and you were wrong 😂😂😂
Here I am six years later stuffed with pizza watching this to help improve. Two weeks ago I was watching this channel for some long range rifle tips. Some really top level fuss on this channel to learn from how did Todd not take off.
Great video! So you don't recommend having more tension in your support hand than in the strong hand? That's what I've always heard so far to avoid trigger jerking.
@@HuntEthical actually it can. Shooting a pro gun with special ammunition that presents less recoil transforms shooting a gun in shooting an airsoft. Other game there.
@@meowmix1569 sound like you haven’t shot a gun. These pistols are completely back-weighted with a fucking compensator and they also shoot low P ammo. A normal 9mm gun doesn’t really kick enough to throw you off target, these guns are literally like call of duty shit
Great video, having just tried some practical pistol shooting (I currently shoot IPSC min rifle - we cant have full rifle here i the UK) the second shot placement was my greatest fail, this will help I'm sure, thank you.
Combine this advice with JJ Racazza's advice on not pinning the trigger during recoil, rather reset the trigger during recoil, and you'll have faster follow up shots
There are definitely some Production Division guns that are made for these matches too, like the CZ Shadow 2. They are pretty expensive, at around $1,400 new or about $2,000 for the Orange version, which is higher end. The heavy steel frame really helps mitigate recoil, plus the low profile slide, like they have in other CZ pistols like the CZ 75, makes it a very soft shooting gun. In the Shadow 2, regular 9 x 19 target rounds feel like .22 long rifle; it's amazing. I think that you could also use something like the CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical, because it also has the big, full dust cover, steel frame and low profile slide. It's pretty much just like the Shadow 2, but costs about half the price. They have one at a store near me for $750 cash price. I think the trigger in the Shadow 2 is far superior, but I haven't tried the SP-01 Tactical. CZ also has some awesome Limited Divison pistols too, like the Tactical Sport 2 or Tactical Sport Orange, and then they have their Open CZ Czechmate and Czechmate Parrot. The TS2 goes for about $1,500 and the Orange is about $1,900. Compared to a $3,000 Staccato or Wilson Combat, that's not bad. The Czechmate is about $3,300 and the Czechmate Parrot is about $3,800. I know, those prices seem outrageous, and I doubt if I could even trade my car for a Czechmate lol but comparatively, they are priced well. The similar Tanfoglio Open Division race gun costs $4,800 from the Ben Stoeger website, and I can't imagine that the Tanfoglio is any better than the Czechmate. I am pretty much a CZ fanboy, though. Ever since I held the Shadow 2 the first time a few years ago, I've loved that one. It's amazing how much more accurate and fast I can shoot with the Shadow 2! Sorry for the long comment. Have a good one.
For faster follow up shots, FIRSTLY use d right 9mm ammo; put compensator on ur pistol; put red dot; put that huge thumb rest; modify trigger to become xtra light; do aĺl & any modification on ur pistol; .....
If I might humbly point out the weapon hes using is fitted with a decent muzzle break (substantially reduces recoil on an already low recoiling/ caliber firearm) which aids greatly in keeping secondary/rapid fire follow up shots being placed well without to much need for concern with pedantic grip attention, and it also has a match trigger which reduces pull on the trigger from perhaps 3.5lbs factory to probably 1.5lbs which also aids greatly without concern to much on stance and grip. The optic hes using also eliminates front sight focus problems which is 90% of the battle in being accurate with pistols. It's easy to look the business when you have technology doing a fair bit of the work for you. Buy his set up, practice, and you wont have to worry nearly as much as hes saying on stance and grip. Cant be said for an out of the box standard pistol set up from factory.
Likely the stupidest RUclips comment I've read for awhile. The guys he's competing against are running tuned Open guns as well. If you don't have fundamentals, you don't have shit.
There’s a really good in-depth unedited video by garandthumb and mojo that covers cadence shooting and trigger reset. Garandthumb also has a video with mojo on recoil control as well: m.ruclips.net/video/TCFRWFh4Uyc/видео.html
The gun has absolutely nothing to do with it when you are a world class shooter. The reason the world class shooters use race guns is because they have maxed out the potential that a regular gun can reach. You have not, they have. You cannot reach .12 splits with your glock, they can. You cannot reach a 1 second bill drill with your glock, they can. You cannot reach a .5 second draw, they can. The reason they have the race gun is because there is a point where you outrun your gun's capabilities. Ben stoeger can shoot a glock 34 just as fast as a stacatto xc
Nice presentation Doug. Shame that one or two others from the old school, have jumped on the "Grip it as tightly as you can" bandwagon. I'm sure you know who I'm referring to.
No, listen to a competition shooter if you want to learn how to shoot. Combat experience doesnt mean anything in terms of shooting ability. The average navy seal wouldnt reach B class in USPSA. Learn tactics from a military guy, not shooting. Most cops and military guys would be bottom of the barrel when it comes to shooting
Almost every gun made will out shoot any human its learning how to deal with problems and muscle memory that sets us apart,pay attention you may learn something
Nah it don't help when you have a several thousand dollar run gun nah that don't matter just your footing and grip if you got that then you can shoot a hipoint just as good as theat run gun you have bud
I could watch that gun cycle for hours. It's perfectly tuned.
Do you have any video shooting a self defence gun, with higher grain loads? I would love to see the difference between recoil and grip control!
1:52 was perfect timing
1:50 holy the sync on that.
Excellent information. I've never heard it explained this way. I use a finger around the trigger guard grip, because I have much more leverage, and control over recoil, while mainly just using my support hand, for grip "strength". This allows my strong hand to stay relaxed, and let's my trigger finger be more fluid. But, what you're describing is to allow the gun to kinda do its thing, so it will recoil consistently straight up, and straight back down. I've got to experiment with this now. Thanks, man. I completely understand what you're saying.
I need to do a range session where I focus on tracking my dot in recoil. I keep hearing this. Thanks!
I would recommend having a painted line or 2x4 that you can easily tell if your pulling left or right, also could record yourself with a GoPro or something.
Great tips. I was especially focused on your comment about grip pressure. Makes sense now.
wish guys would demonstrate these tips/drills with a stock everyday carry type gun with iron sights instead of these factory tricked out compensated red dot race guns.
#fundamentals
Look up the 1990 uspsa nationals. This man lived through an era where all they had were iron sights 1911s and he would have seen comps, .38supercomp, Tasco dots, double stack 2011s. And other technology we take for granted now develop. If you tinker with 1911s even a little you recognize his last name.
It’s the exact same thing 🤣
i agree you never see it on iron sighted stock guns
@@___meph___4547 concealed carry is a competition too, who is going to die first me or them?
For all these people bitching about how he has a gun worth thousands or having a "pistol that is so smooth and refined it has a lot less muzzle rise, slide mass and spring tension of a stock pistol" blah blah blah.
Take a minute and read the title of the video. Go ahead, I'll wait.
Ohhhh shit. It says "Competitive Shooting Tips". It doesn't say "tactical tips for your defensive carry. It doesn't say "shoot faster with defensive ammo." No- it says Competitive Shooting Tips.
Barrett the gun he uses is fuckin bad tho lol when he racked it i was like omg it sounded absolutely perfect
Ooooo yea mechanical interactions that smooth... 🍆
It says Faster follow up shots first though retard.
@@CramcrumBrewbringer yeah, followed by “Competitive shooting tips” 😂😂.
I love the fact that you called me a retard like you’re 12 years old, and you were wrong 😂😂😂
Here I am six years later stuffed with pizza watching this to help improve. Two weeks ago I was watching this channel for some long range rifle tips. Some really top level fuss on this channel to learn from how did Todd not take off.
Great video! So you don't recommend having more tension in your support hand than in the strong hand? That's what I've always heard so far to avoid trigger jerking.
also helps to have a perfectly weighted gun..
It helps, but you still probably wouldn't shoot it half as good as him. Skill cannot be bought.
@@HuntEthical actually it can. Shooting a pro gun with special ammunition that presents less recoil transforms shooting a gun in shooting an airsoft. Other game there.
@@adrianzamfir2663 and you still wouldn't be nearly as good as him. Take your negativity to Twitter.
@@meowmix1569 sound like you haven’t shot a gun. These pistols are completely back-weighted with a fucking compensator and they also shoot low P ammo. A normal 9mm gun doesn’t really kick enough to throw you off target, these guns are literally like call of duty shit
@@___meph___4547 yeah I’m sure he would shoot slightly better than me, it wouldn’t be night and day though lmao those guns are doing 90% of the work
Great video, having just tried some practical pistol shooting (I currently shoot IPSC min rifle - we cant have full rifle here i the UK) the second shot placement was my greatest fail, this will help I'm sure, thank you.
Thanks Doug!!
Wonder if these guys realize that a perfectly weighted race gun gives you about 15% advantage.. which is not much.. technique is still koenig
Totally agree
I'm glad somebody jumped in and said it. Could be a 10k gun, not going to be effective without the fundamentals.
Isn't that what he was talking about - having a good technique? I didn't hear him mention the gun once.
@Rusty Shackleford nice to know rutsy you know what everyone else thinks must help you on the range a lot.....
@Rusty Shackleford if you're calling it out, where you see it, you must be looking in the mirror....
You have great control on that pistol , most say pull the trigger slowly so your hands don’t shake and you keep the recoil well
Awesome video! Super helpful. Thank you 🙏
Combine this advice with JJ Racazza's advice on not pinning the trigger during recoil, rather reset the trigger during recoil, and you'll have faster follow up shots
great advice
Excellent tips short simple and practical
Let me demonstrate recoil control with this race gun shooting my reloads 🙄
I also grip a .22 lightly, Doug. Excellent instruction
Great video
I always wonder why people vote down great videos. This was a very informative one.
Nice 👍
Tip #1 Use an open gun that manages recoil for you.
There are definitely some Production Division guns that are made for these matches too, like the CZ Shadow 2. They are pretty expensive, at around $1,400 new or about $2,000 for the Orange version, which is higher end. The heavy steel frame really helps mitigate recoil, plus the low profile slide, like they have in other CZ pistols like the CZ 75, makes it a very soft shooting gun. In the Shadow 2, regular 9 x 19 target rounds feel like .22 long rifle; it's amazing. I think that you could also use something like the CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical, because it also has the big, full dust cover, steel frame and low profile slide. It's pretty much just like the Shadow 2, but costs about half the price. They have one at a store near me for $750 cash price. I think the trigger in the Shadow 2 is far superior, but I haven't tried the SP-01 Tactical.
CZ also has some awesome Limited Divison pistols too, like the Tactical Sport 2 or Tactical Sport Orange, and then they have their Open CZ Czechmate and Czechmate Parrot. The TS2 goes for about $1,500 and the Orange is about $1,900. Compared to a $3,000 Staccato or Wilson Combat, that's not bad. The Czechmate is about $3,300 and the Czechmate Parrot is about $3,800. I know, those prices seem outrageous, and I doubt if I could even trade my car for a Czechmate lol but comparatively, they are priced well. The similar Tanfoglio Open Division race gun costs $4,800 from the Ben Stoeger website, and I can't imagine that the Tanfoglio is any better than the Czechmate. I am pretty much a CZ fanboy, though. Ever since I held the Shadow 2 the first time a few years ago, I've loved that one. It's amazing how much more accurate and fast I can shoot with the Shadow 2! Sorry for the long comment. Have a good one.
For faster follow up shots, FIRSTLY use d right 9mm ammo; put compensator on ur pistol; put red dot; put that huge thumb rest; modify trigger to become xtra light; do aĺl & any modification on ur pistol; .....
Its like having a guy driving an F1 as the example to drive my 350z. But fundamentals are the core of everything.
U know a real professional when he focuses on the form first no matter what the fuck is the profession
What holster is that guys any one knows link to it ?
nice how to stand tutorial
He looks like a walking billboard.
stance, grip, and grip tension
If I might humbly point out the weapon hes using is fitted with a decent muzzle break (substantially reduces recoil on an already low recoiling/ caliber firearm) which aids greatly in keeping secondary/rapid fire follow up shots being placed well without to much need for concern with pedantic grip attention, and it also has a match trigger which reduces pull on the trigger from perhaps 3.5lbs factory to probably 1.5lbs which also aids greatly without concern to much on stance and grip. The optic hes using also eliminates front sight focus problems which is 90% of the battle in being accurate with pistols. It's easy to look the business when you have technology doing a fair bit of the work for you. Buy his set up, practice, and you wont have to worry nearly as much as hes saying on stance and grip. Cant be said for an out of the box standard pistol set up from factory.
Likely the stupidest RUclips comment I've read for awhile. The guys he's competing against are running tuned Open guns as well. If you don't have fundamentals, you don't have shit.
Would he beat Jerry in a competition match when Jerry was in his prime?
What kind of gun does he have?
There’s a really good in-depth unedited video by garandthumb and mojo that covers cadence shooting and trigger reset. Garandthumb also has a video with mojo on recoil control as well:
m.ruclips.net/video/TCFRWFh4Uyc/видео.html
dude...he looks like rick grimes...from twd
Cooooooooral!
idol very nice im filipino
Now how do you do it without a $4000 custom pistol? Like how do you shoot fast and accurate with p365?
The gun has absolutely nothing to do with it when you are a world class shooter. The reason the world class shooters use race guns is because they have maxed out the potential that a regular gun can reach. You have not, they have. You cannot reach .12 splits with your glock, they can. You cannot reach a 1 second bill drill with your glock, they can. You cannot reach a .5 second draw, they can. The reason they have the race gun is because there is a point where you outrun your gun's capabilities. Ben stoeger can shoot a glock 34 just as fast as a stacatto xc
I'm french . USA my dream
Wow
I just put an optic on my Glock 43X. It's certainly not a cure for crappy technique. lol
👍👍👍👍👍❤❤❤❤
Nice presentation Doug. Shame that one or two others from the old school, have jumped on the "Grip it as tightly as you can" bandwagon. I'm sure you know who I'm referring to.
Custom loads and a tricked out 9mm help
3:14.......is how babies are made.
😆 How is this not the top comment!
And being fast off the draw👉
Just don't discharge too early before your aim is set. Tends to make a mess. :P
I'm sure it also helps to shoot weak or low powerd ammo. I'd like to see you guys training and compete with full power ammo.
In competition, they have to comply with power factor. The ammo they use are in full power, too.
He regularly shoots 115gr @ 1500+fps or 124's @ 1400+...
Rick Grimes o my gosh
Dont listen to competition shooters that use these fancy ass guns. Go to a more reliable shooter who has actual combat experience.
No, listen to a competition shooter if you want to learn how to shoot. Combat experience doesnt mean anything in terms of shooting ability. The average navy seal wouldnt reach B class in USPSA. Learn tactics from a military guy, not shooting. Most cops and military guys would be bottom of the barrel when it comes to shooting
@@mynameisjeff6988 competition shooters don't get shot at. They do NOT have combat experience. You wouldn't know anything about that
I really like how he pronounces his German name entirely wrong :D - König means king in German
He his not German. He is from a country that destroyed Germany, and can easily do it again if need be.
a $5000 gun might help too
In his case yes. In your case no.
You have no clue about their cases. Good luck living in a "world" of assumption
Rafon If I tell you do know about their cases? Are you sure you are not making assumptions? "Good luck living in a "world" of assumption"
Rafon THANK YOUR RAFON Exactly what i was thinking
Almost every gun made will out shoot any human its learning how to deal with problems and muscle memory that sets us apart,pay attention you may learn something
Why are we listening to a guy with a compensator on his gun tell us how to control muzzle flip?
Captain Revolver Probably because he’s a multiple time world and national champion shooter; one of the most successful competition shooters ever. 🙄
You know, same technique applies in all semi auto pistols and revolvers. Thats why.
because compensated guns still have muzzle flip and good technique can make any gun preform better
Do it with an Everyman's Glock, not a race gun!
how is any of that setup “practical” lol
German surname the American way xD
I have anxiety and I hate slow motion. Please, regular motion lol
And you have a vented barrel.
Bla bla bla
Get to the fckn point i like these vids but i learn more from guys like hickock or jerry m.
Nah it don't help when you have a several thousand dollar run gun nah that don't matter just your footing and grip if you got that then you can shoot a hipoint just as good as theat run gun you have bud
Someone needs to tell this guy Koenig is not pronounced kannig.
In America, you are allowed to pick how you pronounce your own name. Now you know!
1:52 was perfect timing
Super Trooper..
I noticed that too!
😄 That's what I came to say. Lol it made him jump