🔴 Almost OUTSTANDING! | Voigtlander 28mm f2.8 Color Skopar (Small Leica Lens)
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- 28mm Voigtlander Color Skopar for Leica! Voigtlander 28mm 2.8 Skopar vs Elmarit/ Ultron/ TTA
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Exciting! Pre-release review of the new Voigtlander 28mm M mount lens , the 28mm Color Skopar for Leica. Full name Voigtlander Color Skopar 28mm f2.8 ASPH. Available in 3 versions and 6 variants. Voigtlander 28mm 2.8 Typ 1 is aimed at Leica M camera users (VM mount) and there is a 28mm Skopar 2.8 screw mount version too (fantastic news for us Leica Barnack users!) For mirrorless cameras there is the Voigtlander 28mm f2.8 Skopar Typ II. Both Typ I and Typ II are small lenses for Leica cameras (or adapter to Fuji-X, Lumix etc). Well done Voigtlander! This Voigtlander 28mm 2.8 review should tell you all you need to know about the new Color Skopar lens. (I also compare Voigtlander 28mm Skopar vs 28mm Ultron, Voigtlander 28mm Color Skopar vs TTArtisan 28mm f5.6 and Voigtlander 28mm 2.8 vs Leica Elmarit 28mm 2.8 - side by side comparison tests).
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Nice comparison video, but it sounds like a demon is trying to possess you Matt. :)
Great review, as always. But pleeeeeeease fix the audio issues, these lower frequency glitches are really unnerving.
Matt needs an exorcist, those aren't audio glitches. A demon is trying to possess him. ;)
Something like a high-pass filter would do the trick.
Thank you, yes so sorry, I used de-noise software and it changed the track
Fair point haha
Frantically trying to teach myself audio as I know zero about it (First 330 videos were as recorded. Recently I've trying a few de-noise programs
So excited for this review, and so unnerved by the audio. Let's do this.
Sorry for bad audio! Great lens!
M Type II is soo lovely. Only 8 elements.
Nice light indeed
I think I'll stick with the Ultron, even the nokton can't touch it @ f2
Yes the Ultron is still king but the Skopar is a nice small alternative
One essential lens is missing from your comparison: the Cosina Zeiss 28mm f/2.8 Biogon in M mount. That lens is probably the only lens on par with the Elmarit and is actually quite affordable at that as well, especially given they are "only" ~USD300 more expensive than this new Voigtlaender.
Thanks! It’s in the blog. I predicted that is #1, Elmarit #2 based on my ZM lenses
Great video. Haven't looked at Voigtlander for a while, Interesting audio too.
Thanks, sorry for bad audio!
Good review.
IMO the Voigtlander review videos are your best vids.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks and sorry for audio mess!
The 100g type 2 sounds perfect for use on the CL as a light weight setup. The Ultron is more than double the weight and can make the CL quite heavy. I have the 21mm 3.5 and it's heavy to carry.
Yes perfect combo for the CL!
Hi Matt, just got the type II 28mm lens last week, very happy with it for my SL2-S it makes a real light & stealthy street camera :). It's also the nicest looking lens from Voigtlander imo
Congrats! Yes perfect combo and a pretty setup
Thanks for nice review! I just got this new 28mm Type II lens last week, very happy with it for my M10 and M246. The performance is on a par with the Elmarit to some extent in my opinion.
Great! Yes I bet they are very similar in real use and at f8
Thanks for the informative review. I've wanted a 28mm for quite a while for my film M camera and this helps with the decision. Now, though, I'm contemplating the purchase of a second 28mm, as I received the 7Artisans 5.6 in the mail days before the Voigtlander lenses were released. I like the 7Artisans lens so far, but taking the lens hood on and off takes some effort.
Thanks! It's not helpful to tell you but the TTA 28 is much better than the 7A 28 (see video) and yes the Skopar is even better.
wow ... what a test ! .... thanks for sharing ... The more I use it the more I like the 28mm format ... So I'll look closer to this 28 Skoppar version L in Black 🙂
Jerome when we meet next we're going to have the same camera and same lens AGAIN! My black L is ordered :P ..and thanks.. see part 2 it gets even better
I was looking into the type 2 version, but decided to just stay with my 28/2 Ultron II.. Passes a throat lozenge. Thanks Matt...
The Ultron is great. Sorry for audio!
I don’t shoot 28 anymore, but seeing the Skopar I would just keep/buy the Ultron II. And you get f2. Super small, brass, clicky aperture and buttery smooth focus… But the Skopar is great news for LTM guys.
Thanks Carlos, yes the Ultron is great if you need f2. Good lens
Hello, I noticed on some of my pictures the purple cast on the edge of the frame that you mentioned. What is the reason for that? I was wondering if it was my sensor. Thank you great video as usual.
L/type I silver. Thanks for the video Matt! BTW, I didn't notice the audio. Don't know what that says about me.😎
I didn’t before posting hence I posted it ..thanks!
Nice pics 👍 I like how they thought about rangefinder and mirrorless users, but don't get why they didn't give the LTM version 1m close focus distance as this is standard on the barnacks, and would allow for easy coupling with an adapter to M3 as well 😜
Why would you want to limit yourself to 1m? I would love to have the possibility to get a shot even at 0.5m with the LTM version. I use zone focus a lot documenting my surroundings and the close focus limitations, especially using a wide angle lens, is just frustrating. I should also note that I use everything from a very old Leica 1 converted to a Standard to a M2/M3. Nothing wrong with doing a lock or even better; a slightly different feeling in the focus ring when exceeding the rangefinder focus (just like Leica done with their newer 35/50 versions) Cheers!
Thanks Thomas and yes a nice thought! it would be annoying when using it on other cameras though! (Digital, other Ms etc)
A number of screw mount cameras such Canon P and 7 actually RF couple down to 0.7m. And it is a fairly easy mod to enable this on Barnacks such as IIIf or IIIg. I think CV did the right thing with this lens. It is a needless pain to be limited to 1m on any lens.
hello, love your vids but you have a problem with the sound on this one
Thanks. Yes sorry I’ll try to fix for next one
I have had it for 3 weeks now for LTM and it is amazing!
Great! Me too!
It'd be interesting to see your thoughts/comments/reactions to these 28mm lenses on the CL. 28mm on aps-c is The Pefect Focal Length pretty much, so ...
Yes I’ll use that combo for sure. The Typ II is ideal but I’ll likely get the Typ I first
what 28mm viewfinder do you use on your barnack? have you used the 28/35mm voigtlander finder and is it useable compared to the larger, circular single focal length finders?
I use Voigtlander both types and KEKS. See blog link below video for visual. 28/35 is $$$
Please show the film shots when ready! Been looking for film samples of this lens to check its character. 🙏
Will do though I'm way behind. Just got colour film back from Vegas (the finished rolls anyway) and have 20 rolls of B&W in the fridge still to develop :S. I've ordered the black L lens for my Barnack so plenty of photos to come in the future
Thanks for the review! What about distorsion? Were you able to test it compared to the elmarit?
Thanks! I did a part 2 video, see that, It had more test photos and you can look for possible distortion. It looked pretty good to me.
Great review! You think I can use this lens in a M4-2 without 28mm framelines? Just composing with the whole viewfinder? Thank you!
I think yes. M cameras with 35mm tramlines like the M2 can be used for 28mm doing this, using the entire VF. I do.
Hi Matt, thanks for sharing this excellent video! What do you think of comparing "Brightin Star 28mm F2.8" with this voigtlander 28mm F2.8?
I might get the BS 28 in the future for fun. Voigtlander is a proper lens, BS Is a fun lens (smeared corner etc)
Hey Matt, superb review, however audio sounds robotic 😢
Yes sorry. Long story but I’ll fix for next one
Matt, sorry to be off topic with this question, excluding e bay, where is the best place to sell my Bessa R2a and three lenses in the UK, all mint, including a 50mm 1.5, no longer made. Thanks mate, this expat once went to Photo Habitat in NYC, now lost in UK…
Hmm, eBay is sadly the best so after then MPB. Easy but you’ll get less money
Black on black for the barnack :)
Thanks! White writing but yes I think that’s my plan
Any idea what size cap I’d need for the v1 (without the hood)? I just got mine (for my iif). I can’t believe how tiny and smooth it is.
Yes great lens! With hood I use a 39mm pinch cap. Without I use no cap currently as nothing fits! (And I have many caps) I think it's 34mm (I say in the video)
Will the screw mount Type 1 of this lens work on the soviet cameras like the Zorki-4 or FED-2. ?
I know some screw mounts will work on old Soviet ones, but I can't remember if the problems lie with wider or longer lenses? Something about the thread pitch?
Thanks again for a great video...and once again...I wanna go buy glass!!!
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CC
I think it will as wider lenses are less affected by the slightly different flange distance
Can you test these LTM versions on the Canon series LTM cameras, maybe specifically the Canon P. Just curious if they'd work well on old Canons. Can't find anyone using the TT artisan or these on Canon cameras.
Hi Kevin, the lenses will work the same on Canon RF cameras so no worries there. Our minds think alike, I tested my Canon 28mm f2.8 LTM vs others this morning. I've updated the blog post on MrLeica.com to cover the results for the Canon, Zeiss and others in test 2.
Thanks Matt, I just read the article. Amazing work as always!@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
Which is better ultron type ii or the new color skopar if you had to pick one?
Ultron II wins for optical performance from my tests but is 2x bigger
Thanks for the comparisons. I’ve been waiting to make a decision on a 28 for a while. I just ordered an Elmarit. Your not the only one who gave a slight nod in that direction. I’m spending way too much on gear though. That 28mm should be my last purchase, I hope..
Thanks. Yes the Elmarit is a nice one. Lovely size for an M
Hey Matt, do you know if the M262 can focus at 50cm? I’m considering picking one up with one of the newer Voigtlander lenses… or maybe a CL… maybe
Hi Bill, i'm not sure if I understand your question. All M cameras focus to 0.7m with RF coupling and any with LiveView can focus at any distance (lens dependent).
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Sorry Matt, I had read somewhere that some of the more recent Voigtlanders can focus at 50cm - maybe I dreamt it! :D Cheers
@@BillNessworthyPhotography thanks Bill, yes lenses can, not all cameras can. You need EVF on Leica to do this (can’t use any RF on any M camera at
6:29 my 7artisans 35mm f/2 had the same purple cast in my m240, what caused that issue?
It's just a lens design weakness in some lenses
Hi Matt, how is the lens distortion? Compare to Elmarit.
Hi I didn't notice bad distortion but the Leica is probably the most corrected
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaComThanks Matt.
Your voice sounds a bit husky, did you do some Karaoke the night before. I've had that voice before from a bug.
Haha my voice always keeps me guessing. It’s different every time I record it!
do you think this lense will work on a zorki 4?
Of course! It will fit all screw mount bodies.
What happens when you use a 0.5 MFD on a Leica M. Will you still be able to focus down to 0.7m? Will the camera indicate if you try to focus too close? Can you accidentally end up with out of focus images? If not then the small MFD is preferable even on Leica M film.
1. Yes.
2. No.
3. Yes.
@@raksh9 Thank you. Then in essence a 0.5m lens is unusable, because at close distance you can never be sure that focus is correct. Thank you.
@@DC-sp5ds Modern rangefinder lenses are made with the possibility of use with mirrorless or live view cameras, so focusing down to 0.5 is still useful. It's just shooting on traditional rangefinders necessitates a bit of mindfulness when focusing up close. I have a few lenses that focus to 0.5m and I deal with that by focusing to the end of the rangefinder patch's movement, then adjusting distance to get the framing right.
I see my awesome viewers have already replied but basically from 0.5m to 0.7m focus via LiveView
Are you a robot?
Haha I feel like it spending 3+ days making this
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom .. You did certainly sound like one on and off during that video.
😊
Thanks!
Does the Skopar truly upstage the Ultron..?
No, see the part 2 video. Ultron is still the winner but the Skopar is very good.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaComI’m also looking at the Biogon ZM 28mm f2.8… maybe the Zeiss beats them all?
@@bradl2636 probably yes, my 21 & 25 are excellent! (See vids)
Love the videos but the voice distortion makes so distracting.
Thanks Bob, yes sorry for the audio. I will try different de-noise software for the next one (See the blog link below to avoid the audio)
Is it me or does your voice change sporadically in the video? Like @6:45?
Sorry I’m not sure why, I think the Adobe software made it worse. It was 1 take
BAD SOUND Matt - sorry - too close to your mic or gain too high ? otherwise your normal great review.
Thanks, yes sorry I can’t believe it’s bad again. Working on it
I just realised, saying "sun stars" is double haha.
Ah yes! Cool
Are you okay mate? Your voice 😢
Sorry yes bad audio, not sure what happened
Need to re-upload with fixed audio man
Yes sorry it’s bad
Two voices?
1 mic, 1 day, not sure what’s happening
Are you possessed by a demon?? The audio bruh!!
Sorry, the Adobe software killed it!
People praising Voigtlander lenses only do so because of cost. RUclips reviewers seem to cater for the masses who cannot afford/or will not pay for better glass, while others convince themselves when the need arises to sell their better lens that Voigtlander is great by reading gushing reviews in self reassurance. I have yet to prefer Voigtlander lens over any Leica, Zeiss or Nikkor. They all render incredibly bland and are one step up from the Chinese trash flooding the market.
Thanks for your view. I only replace Leica lenses if other brands do a better job for my needs/ taste. See the selling my Leica video for specific lens examples.
I thought You QUiT LEICA?
Yeah, some time ago he was making a big statement about it
@@oreziopancrazio3685 I am thinking the EGO went out of control and he figured to dump Leica before Leica dumped him..
This is a Voigtlander lens :)
Haha yes I sold a few Leica lenses, I still use the Leica cameras
Haha Leica never hired me despite the free PR. I enjoy Voigtlander and Leica plus all the old stuff
Yoooo wtf is going on with the voiceover… giving off serious split personality, serial killer “Hal” vibes
Sorry! Some videos were not great. Someone suggested using AI to remove background noise but it made it worse. Listen to the latest video. When not talking to camera I recorded in under a big towel with a podcast mic. Seems to work haha.