Sign should be. Drowning machine with arrows going around in a counter clock ways circle with a person in the middle of the circle. At the bottom should just be one word. DEATH
Could they fill the bottom where the vortex is with rocks or boulders? That could stop or severely reduce the vortex and still allow for flow. But any solution would be costly In sure, I think that it’s worth it!
Because he's a news reporter and is supposed to be polite, kind and respectable at all times in front of millions of people. Plus the people are idiots and died from stupidity.
Is it just me or is it not creepy when the male reporter who was initially straight-faced to begin with starts smirkin/smiling as he says, "but many lost their lives" ? I notice reporters do this often and while I know they don't find it amusing, it just doesn't LOOK good. Totally freaked me out
@@k9er233 can't listen right now, but I did take a moment to skim the lyrics and you were not lying! My goodness. I thought I was the only one who noticed these things. Thanks for sharing..
the bryan ferry lyric.... 'youre well educated with no commonsense' applies to most 'flooded river' enthiusiasts.... meself included....! i nearly croaked surfing rapids with a hand fin on the north johnstone river far north queensland oz.... smooth water is so powerful.... highly necessary information upload above thanks
The river I boat on the Ct. River has a very thick steel cable and large barrels so it would be nearly impossible to go over said dam. Why do they not put them up? This is complete nonsense. Just cheaping out. Yes I know people should know better but clearly they do not. If you build a dam its now on you, just like the power companies on the Ct River will portage you around their dams. It really not that hard.
Actually, both up and downstream is a good idea, because, believe it or not there have been many rescues initiated because dense people have deliberately swam into them from the downstream side, because they think it "looks like a cool place to swim". Generally, alcohol is involved. No big surprise there.
I agree with you, but people can also come from the lower section towards the boil and still get sucked in if they come too close. A double sided sign should do great.
WHEN will states require putting covers of some sort or caging over these dams so large objects will float down instead of getting trapped by undertow!!!!! As long as caging is small enough not to get objects stuck. An engineer could figure out details.
you need to audit your script. you said the DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY not the DNR. LOL you can not get a throw bag to someone in this situation as they will be stuck into the churn. I have gotten out of one of these dams. But I got to the bottome and then swam out under water. But to think this way is very counter intuative.
Fence the entire length of the river? Unless you fence off the entire length of the river, there's little purpose to having any fence, since people enter the river from any point. Cities are starting to address these low head dams to make them less dangerous. There are so many, though, and it costs money to have this done. It'll be years...
It's really simple. Instead of swimming up, swim down to the bottom, then downstream away from the dam. The problem is that the water on the surface is flowing upstream holding you there right under the dam pushing you under. A life vest won't save you. You'll be drowned anyway. Just swim to the bottom, and then away. Come back to the surface far away from the dam where the currents are back to normal.
Easier said then done. That's generally a way out, but you're still dealing with being caught in the washing machine with the other logs and things you'll be aggressively banged against. Removing your life jacket will amplify that. Next you have to find your way through the currents to the bottom in a situation where your riding a deadly water merigoround. Provided you're an exceptionally strong swimmer and you have your bearings you now have to catch that lower current, which is again easier said than done and your window to do so depends on how much water is flowing over. As a point to how difficult all that actually is, when trained rescuers get caught in the death trap, most keep their life jackets on, choosing to maintain what control they can in the cycle and push out with the life jacket on or wait for more rescuers. These are the trained rescuers, not drink Joe fishing on the beach and attempting an ad hoc rescue. They know the odds of that tactic and they're not good.
@@alexanderthewise1352, “Easier said then done” It’s what I did when I got trapped in one when I was a kid. I immediately figured out what was happening, and instead of fighting the current, I went with it.
@@terjeoseberg990 I suspect the current flow wasn't fast enough to form the death trap. No offense, but there are professional rescue teams that have lost lives, even in training exercises. If it were as simple as that, this would not be the case and certainly the cases of flow where this event happens are going to spin anyone. There's a video about the different flows over dam structures by an engineer. The problem with the death trap is it's hard to distinguish when it's happening in a lot of cases. Part of the categorization is the extreme difficulty of rejection from the stream. The best bet is to avoid the situation altogether.
@@terjeoseberg990 Gotcha. The height from which the water is flowing is less impactful than the actual flow rate over the dam. And a recripal current is a feature of flow over a dam, not necessarily the death trap. In fact, none of the B footage here shows an obvious death trap. Practical engineering does a video on this that's good, but I dont think it outlines the actual classifications. There is a video that does. Height of fall though, not the primary factor.
Please... start removing them!
Love her smile as she segways into the tragic death story.
Check out the song by Don Henley - "Dirty Laundry". He perfectly addressed this issue about twisted "reporters" when he wrote this song in 1982.
@@k9er233 "The bubble headed bleach blonde, comes on at 5. She can tell you about the plane crash with a gleam in her eye."
@@jaxflfreebird Great song. Really says it all about these type of "reporters", doesn't it?
A Segway is a computerized scooter. The verb is "segue". - School Marm.
@@number4cat1 tomato/tomato. In other news, this guy is an English professor. Or is it a English professor? Like my Segway?
Sign should be. Drowning machine with arrows going around in a counter clock ways circle with a person in the middle of the circle. At the bottom should just be one word. DEATH
Very good idea. Most people have no idea how dangerous these are because they can appear to be so benign.
Could they fill the bottom where the vortex is with rocks or boulders? That could stop or severely reduce the vortex and still allow for flow. But any solution would be costly In sure, I think that it’s worth it!
you cannot hear those instructions when you are thrashing about the water
Why this man smile when he say they lost lives. :10
He isnt
Because he's a news reporter and is supposed to be polite, kind and respectable at all times in front of millions of people. Plus the people are idiots and died from stupidity.
What about her she was smiling too
Those two were boning before the broadcast for sure. Nobody is that happy about drownings.
Check out the song by Don Henley - "Dirty Laundry". He perfectly addressed this issue about twisted "reporters" when he wrote this song in 1982.
It's so frustrating how we all know these are a problem, but we don't remove them.
Is it just me or is it not creepy when the male reporter who was initially straight-faced to begin with starts smirkin/smiling as he says, "but many lost their lives" ? I notice reporters do this often and while I know they don't find it amusing, it just doesn't LOOK good. Totally freaked me out
Check out the song by Don Henley - "Dirty Laundry". He perfectly addressed this issue about twisted "reporters" when he wrote this song in 1982.
@@k9er233 can't listen right now, but I did take a moment to skim the lyrics and you were not lying! My goodness. I thought I was the only one who noticed these things. Thanks for sharing..
the bryan ferry lyric.... 'youre well educated with no commonsense' applies to most 'flooded river' enthiusiasts.... meself included....! i nearly croaked surfing rapids with a hand fin on the north johnstone river far north queensland oz.... smooth water is so powerful.... highly necessary information upload above thanks
The river I boat on the Ct. River has a very thick steel cable and large barrels so it would be nearly impossible to go over said dam. Why do they not put them up? This is complete nonsense. Just cheaping out. Yes I know people should know better but clearly they do not. If you build a dam its now on you, just like the power companies on the Ct River will portage you around their dams. It really not that hard.
Guy says "where should we put the signs? Upstream?" Yes captain obvious, upstream so people can avoid the dam
IKR 🙄
Actually, both up and downstream is a good idea, because, believe it or not there have been many rescues initiated because dense people have deliberately swam into them from the downstream side, because they think it "looks like a cool place to swim". Generally, alcohol is involved. No big surprise there.
I agree with you, but people can also come from the lower section towards the boil and still get sucked in if they come too close. A double sided sign should do great.
WHEN will states require putting covers of some sort or caging over these dams so large objects will float down instead of getting trapped by undertow!!!!! As long as caging is small enough not to get objects stuck. An engineer could figure out details.
They need to destroy these killing machines
why is this dude smiling
Right.
Check out the song by Don Henley - "Dirty Laundry". He perfectly addressed this issue about twisted "reporters" when he wrote this song in 1982.
How professional, smirk while talking about lose of life…classy news outfit you guys got there
Check out the song by Don Henley - "Dirty Laundry". He perfectly addressed this issue about twisted "reporters" when he wrote this song in 1982.
Dive down it'll kick you out down stream. Always port any dam .
That works if the victim did not panic and was able to summon the strength to do what feels completely unnatural at the time, which is "dive down."
Provided that in diving down it doesn't force you into the dam and smack your head somewhere under the water.
you need to audit your script. you said the DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY not the DNR. LOL
you can not get a throw bag to someone in this situation as they will be stuck into the churn.
I have gotten out of one of these dams. But I got to the bottome and then swam out under water. But to think this way is very counter intuative.
Stay away fom the dam. Stay out of the water.
Why not just put a fence up?
Fence the entire length of the river? Unless you fence off the entire length of the river, there's little purpose to having any fence, since people enter the river from any point. Cities are starting to address these low head dams to make them less dangerous. There are so many, though, and it costs money to have this done. It'll be years...
Why is the reporter holding back a smirk whilst reporting on something so dangerous?, 🤷♂️
Check out the song by Don Henley - "Dirty Laundry". He perfectly addressed this issue about twisted "reporters" when he wrote this song in 1982.
It's really simple. Instead of swimming up, swim down to the bottom, then downstream away from the dam.
The problem is that the water on the surface is flowing upstream holding you there right under the dam pushing you under. A life vest won't save you. You'll be drowned anyway.
Just swim to the bottom, and then away. Come back to the surface far away from the dam where the currents are back to normal.
Easier said then done. That's generally a way out, but you're still dealing with being caught in the washing machine with the other logs and things you'll be aggressively banged against. Removing your life jacket will amplify that. Next you have to find your way through the currents to the bottom in a situation where your riding a deadly water merigoround. Provided you're an exceptionally strong swimmer and you have your bearings you now have to catch that lower current, which is again easier said than done and your window to do so depends on how much water is flowing over.
As a point to how difficult all that actually is, when trained rescuers get caught in the death trap, most keep their life jackets on, choosing to maintain what control they can in the cycle and push out with the life jacket on or wait for more rescuers. These are the trained rescuers, not drink Joe fishing on the beach and attempting an ad hoc rescue. They know the odds of that tactic and they're not good.
@@alexanderthewise1352, “Easier said then done”
It’s what I did when I got trapped in one when I was a kid. I immediately figured out what was happening, and instead of fighting the current, I went with it.
@@terjeoseberg990 I suspect the current flow wasn't fast enough to form the death trap.
No offense, but there are professional rescue teams that have lost lives, even in training exercises. If it were as simple as that, this would not be the case and certainly the cases of flow where this event happens are going to spin anyone.
There's a video about the different flows over dam structures by an engineer. The problem with the death trap is it's hard to distinguish when it's happening in a lot of cases. Part of the categorization is the extreme difficulty of rejection from the stream.
The best bet is to avoid the situation altogether.
@@alexanderthewise1352, It was a 3’ tall waterfall.
@@terjeoseberg990 Gotcha. The height from which the water is flowing is less impactful than the actual flow rate over the dam. And a recripal current is a feature of flow over a dam, not necessarily the death trap. In fact, none of the B footage here shows an obvious death trap.
Practical engineering does a video on this that's good, but I dont think it outlines the actual classifications. There is a video that does. Height of fall though, not the primary factor.