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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2023
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In this episode, we have the honour of sitting down with Dorian Yates, one of the most successful bodybuilders in history. Join us as we dive into Dorian's life story and learn about the obstacles he overcame to become a six-time Mr Olympia champion.
Throughout the conversation, we discuss Dorian's training philosophy, his infamous "blood and guts" approach, and how he revolutionised the sport of bodybuilding. We also explore his unique physical attributes, including his dense muscle mass and incredible back development, which set him apart from his competitors.
Along the way, we hear from Dorian himself as he reflects on his career and offers insights into his mindset and approach to training. We also get to know the man behind the muscles, as Dorian opens up about his personal life, including his passion for fitness and his recent move to Spain.
Whether you're a fan of bodybuilding or just interested in learning more about one of the sport's greatest champions, this episode offers an intimate look at the life and legacy of Dorian Yates. So sit back, relax, and join us for an inspiring conversation with one of the all-time greats of bodybuilding.
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Dorian is so honest! Love him. No BS advice.
The reason to listen to Dorian.
He is still healthy… a rare quality for a world class ex bodybuilder
Healthy but on TRT for the rest of his life.
He's healthy partly because he focuses more on health now than bodybuilding, he's thinking about the future rather than just to be big
Arnold, Lou and most other guys from the 70s that did volume training are still healthy
@@scottallen6227*Ronnie Coleman enters the chat with a wheel chair*
@@scottallen6227Arnold almost died by a heart surgery at 40's from same disease w took his mom years later
i love Dorian im so glad hes still alive and heping people. The greatest to ever do it
Let's not forget Mike Mentzer got a perfect score of 300 ! Mike was the REAL DEAL holyfield!
The man is a legend. End of story.
Dorian’s a national treasure.
These are the personalities that should be flooding our media.
Excercise, mentality and positivity.
You can flood the media with as much personality you want. Lazy pieces of shit will always look for the easy way out.
Train that way thanks big doz
Hey so I see a lot of comments from ppl who haven’t tried it. I worked out 6times a week 3 sets till failure for 3-4 years… I’m a young healthy guy but natural. Just listening to this and changing to a 3 lift week (push pull legs) with 3 warmup sets first exercise and maybe 1-2 for others. ONE SET until legitimate real failure DOES WORK!!! I was barely able to gain strength before while BULKING… now I’m just maintaining (actually lost 6 pounds) and I’m stronger like this! “No changes in months… what’s gonna change if u keep going” so true. Mr Olympia knows his sh*tttt!!!
Its a great routine. I like chest/arms..legs..back/delts too
The respect for Dorian & Mike Mentzer. 2 true pioneers to the bodybuilding community. H.I.T. Is the best thing I’ve ever stumbled on. I sharpened up my routine to focus more on the reps & set. It’s crazy when I get tunnel vision and focus on searching for that perfect, peak flex. Once it’s found, you go down in a negative fashion to perform another rep. Sh*t, man. What a feeling that most people haven’t experienced. Not to mention, the results hehehe⛓️🔥
Dorian is a goat, Mike was a bit of a nutter, ESPECIALLY post from 79' onwards - be careful who you idolise
@Hosppe it's just information..no need for the smart comment.
@@patrickmulvaney.6738 my comment is also just info, not spiteful or to stir drama, it just is what it is
@@Hosppementzer was one crazy bastard but he was also one of if not the most intellectual bodybuilders of all time. He deeply studied the topic and concluded the optimal methods to increase muscle mass, when you listen to his theories it's truly impossible to disagree with what he is saying
@@charlessharp9313 bruh he has been disproven time and time again by modern scientific findings... if you want to speak about optimal methods he is OBJECTIVELY wrong in the majority of his principles, objectively
Dorian is a very intelligent bloke! Love listening to him
The problem most people have is they move weights that are to heavy to move them properly with full ownership and control to stimulate the tissue properly
I practice HIT I do full body 2x a week. I'm 63 so i do 1 warm up set fairly light , then balls to wall slow up slow down to complete muscle failure. It can be brutal I'm sweating and shaking sometimes nauseous when I'm done but the results are awesome I feel great I'm strong my body is still looking good my BP is fantastic resting pulse 68 - I'm not trying to be huge my goal is just to be strong and healthy for as long as possible ~
Smart man
That's it. Im 61 and do 3 sets to failure once every 8 to 10 days and my number have yet to plateau after 9 months. It's INCREDIBLE.
I worked out for so long and lifted heavy for yrs without results after hitting "my plateau". I've been taking more rest days and cut my time in the gym while still adding weight and going to failure and I'm already seeing my body change in a matter of a month.
Could you please elaborate more on this. How heavy should the weights be when going to failure? How many exercises should you do when You’re using HIT method. Thanks
Mate hated himself was in gym 2 to 3 hours , he accidentally said that in podcast with hany rambod , you can’t make good body with more rest m small amount of time in gym,,otherwise do you think hany rambod is stupid asking his people like derek to work out 3 hours and sometimes 2 x 2 hours in gym ?
Nice! Also I think a lot of people aren't eating enough protein for growing.
@@everready800 exactly, it’s like a car , if you have Ferrari , it won’t move otherwise you put petrol in it , if you workout , your body( muscle ) need food and stuff
@@larrydavid4668
8-12 reps.
Soon as you can complete 12 with perfect form, then increase the weight until you're back at 8. Rinse and repeat.
It’s not just about muscle , it’s about protecting your joints. Overtraining is a good way to age badly , you have to switch up as you get older
@wiccanwarrior9 Yeah that's what will prevent your joints from going to shit in the first place. Or at least it will delay it until much longer, joint pain eventually becomes inevitable because that's just life lol.
I really never listened to Dorian Yates communicate until a couple of years ago. He's lack of bedside manner is something I dearly cherish.
From the LEGEND himself 100% right
Dorian & mike 🗿> arnold 🐍
You are 100% right. I have been training high intensity for most of my 40 years of training. I have tried high volume, and it does not produce the same resalts
You'd get those results from volume if you trained for 40 years doing volume. 😂
I have the utmost respect for dorian. Hes so knowledgeable and humble about who he is as a person and what he shares about the sport of bodybuilding.
At 54 yrs old, this 💯 In myvearly years, I severly overtrained. 2hr gym sessions. Tom Deters had a seminar in Ithaca NY in 1995. He told me this same thing.
Bodybuilding is like trading: people complicate everything completely unnecessarily. Thanks to Dorian for reminding you what really matters. Short and intense basic workout and then recovery.
What kind of trading?
Mentzer in heaven feeling validated!!!
Much wisdom here. This past month I’ve reduced my warm-up lifts to a fraction of what they were and find I have much more strength and confidence for the max lifts I’m targeting. As he notes, it’s rather simple advice if you were to write it down, but I can attest that it’s the best advice on weightlifting I’ve had to date!
Knowledge and mentality are so important
My thing was, I always believed in angles. Incline, flat, decline, bench press, then flies, the some dips. I did the same thing with each body part. It didn’t not work, I wasn’t ever the strongest in the gym, but always had good results. Doing this approach tho, my muscles are getting fuller
What kind of workout plan are you doing that’s giving you results and how many times a week you go?
WOW!! This advice is PURE GOLD!!!! Thank you Dorian. You are an inspiration to anyone who loves lifting weights...
his workout principles helped me a lot
An absolute legend in bodybuilding. Dorian too.
@2:36 i'm satisfied i know what to try. Thanks!. I've only started upping my protein to ridiculous levels and that has helped too.
Cheers mates
Absolutely fkg awesome mate ,love it . thanks for your knowledge.🇬🇧
The shadow speaks about training you listen and absorb 👌I watched Dorian way back this man was clever and absolutely in amazing shape and he kept himself to himself mostly and trained like an animal 👍
What a pleasant guy to listen to
Just tried this. Here’s what i did: every exercise i did half as many sets and made them drop sets. Same volume but half the time. Waaay better pump and almost instant progress. This works.
Mike Mentzer ❤
Dorian / Mike ... Legends
I changed my routine and started adding in movements and advice from mikes videos shit im seeing results! Listen people these body builders have great advice and more to give....
Only knew arnold back in the days 35 years back.... Aged 14.15.
Now find out about mentzer method. And ive improved way more than I did back then doimg 30 sets a body part....
NOW training 1 body part a week. Mike was 100% correct and truthful. If 1 set isn't enough then how is 50 enough.
my best physic was from 3 days a week lifting reverse pyramid style 2-3 sets 4 different exercises.
Heres my experience with HIT: I found my biceps grew pretty easily. The sets and reps, whilst hard, didn't phase me much, certainly not as much as say shoulders. In fact, I enjoyed every minute of doing biceps. They reached a certain amount of inches, and I was like 'I'm putting another inch on by this date'. I started training them harder, longer, and more often. When i finally measured them on the date, I nearly gave up gym altogether. They had got smaller if anything. But that was before I discovered Dorian / Mentzer etc. Now I train them once a week, and I'm in the gym for max 30 mins a time. And of course, I've beaten my size record easily.
Thank you Dorian Yates.
Absolute gold tier knowledge from Yates as always. Great video, sir!
Its intresting how Dorians legs still hold so much mass
Thing is for me I love training so much and it helps me get my mind right for the day and kill in my business
His knowledge and experience comes through, here.
The most important part of this interview is he is saying make progress not whose training style is right or wrong.
Facts from an all time great....
This is the way
Totally right
Well said, mentzer was great advice
Great video I’m so burnt out I’m dreading working out not making progress getting injured 3 years 6 to 7 days a week I’m going to try this I’m getting very discouraged time to try something different
Like he said, you are overtraining. It's a very common mistake. If you are hurting somewhere don't be afraid to just take a whole week off. You will be surprised how strong you still feel when you come back. I do workouts all the time where I feel a pain in my knee or shoulder or something and I think I'm going to have some ongoing issue. I'll take a good amount of time off, or just with low intensity and when I come back it's like the pain was never there and often I'll even have improved my numbers from the last time.
I get it, I used to do it too. You feel that every day you take off is a day of progress lost. It's the opposite. You just have to change your mindset....I always envision my body repairing and growing bigger on my rest days and it so even my rest days start to feel like progress. Workout days are where you signal the muscles to grow, and rest days are where the muscles actually do the growing. Workout days = signal days, rest days = grow days.
It seems crazy until you do it. I started doing HIT 3 times a week and I've never felt better.
That’s for me the perfect way especially if you’re natural Mike mentzer and Arthur jones was right intense and short sessions and straight muscle contractions is the key
Juicer wisdom. Love it!
Yea I been f78king up, need to try this
The difference between just exercising and seriously training for gains explained right there!
Dorian looks awesome
Ultimate gem 💎
Yates is brilliant talks total sence.
I have been training 35 minutes 1 muscle group, and I leave the gym with an amazing pump, will continue with this method
I always listen when Yates speaks. Mike Mentzer's HIT method. Beware of injuries though.
It is very hard to injure yourself training Heavy Duty correctly. When you focus your work sets on doing slow reps, holding the weight, and slowly lowering it you eliminate thrust and momentum which are where the real risk of injury can occur. You also will find you cannot handle as heavy a weight. But you get a much better working of the muscle.
It's all about keeping tension on the muscle e.g. incline curls keep tension on the bicep at the bottom of the movement.
I follow this split and 3 days a week, but I prefer multiple sets with minimal (10 to 15 secs) between to add the intensity. Basically rest pause. I do the 30 min workouts, only a few exercises. It works great.
The Shadow & The GOAT!
Legend!
Excellent
A lot of people who train way too often don’t grow because they barely recover. You need to recover from the damage you’ve done first before you can grow. Most people train the same muscle again as it has just recovered but not grown 🙈 rest and feeding the muscle is more important than anything for growth
All depends, I generally look at it like am I fit for purpose. Some months I'm faster some I'm stronger, I personally like to have a balance.
It’s not that they are not recovering…. It’s the fact that if they are training that frequently then they cannot be training that intensely. Meaning they are gaining progress wayyyy slower in the long run
More is never better
wrong, if i do 3 sets at a given weight of 8, 8, 7 reps, and the next workout I get 9,8,8, more is better, always, its progress. when i get to 10, 10, 10, i increase weight til i can get all 10s again. more is better because i get stronger which means i get harder and bigger. 2 to 4 warm up sets then 3 sets til you reach the 10s, then increase weight. that is what Dorian would do. Same with Ronnie and Jay. Watched them all train at Milos Sarcev's gym in Fullerton. And they hit each muscle group TWICE a week, not ONCE. Calves nearly every day.
One thing Yates forgot to mention is to literally write down every single number of sets and reps that you do on the training. That is basically a record for you to follow up your progress and is pretty much fun because before the exercise you look at the number of reps or the weight you did last time, and your ultimate goal must be to beat the number, even for a single rep. And by doing so every single training, you are making progress and getting stronger. When getting stronger, you start getting bigger, step by step.
Not a good idea. Because when you are trying to beat a number you can get sloppy. For example if you just did 3x12 next week you can probably do 3x15 if you don't control the negative, if you don't hold the isometric and if you lift by jerking.
You both have excellent points.
I kind of find myself doing whatever it takes to get that extra rep or that extra 1.25 pounds than I did the week before
@@giorgostzampanakis1354
Ok, so if the goal is not to lift more weights or to do more reps in order to become stronger and bigger, how to achieve that other wise? By doing less reps and lifting less weight? I wouldn't say so...
@@Toretto16don’t think you understand what he was trying to say. He means you’ll be too focused on adding weight or doing extra reps that you’ll end up sacrificing form and technique. Which will lead to nothing. No good doing 2 more reps if your jerking or using momentum, that’s just silly
No mate ,look in the mirror you will see .If your counting your not focused or truly intense .
Mentzer was brilliant!!!
And a liar
oh yeah? how? have you done what he advocated everyone to do? probably not lol @@sword-and-shield
@@mr.greenwi3177 No kid, see I was smart. I knew failure was not needed for growth, because I was already growing with out it. Pushing up slow grinders or worse to the wall was an open invitation to injury. So anyone's spewage means squat to me because over 40 yrs I have SEEN this wreck more lifters than anything. Being injury free so you can continue to lift into your 40's 50's 60's when its most important, to keep from turning into a marshmallow is far more important than some ignorant belief that it is needed.
so your whole argument is that injury is a possibility therefore HIT is stupid because it makes you push yourself to your absolute limit? also you absolutely need to hit failure or near failure to grow muscle, why else would your body try to adapt to stress and increasing weights?@@sword-and-shield
@@mr.greenwi3177 No, that is not what I was saying, did your read it? maybe a re read is in order. For one there is no argument, my eyes and what I have seen with various lifters over 40yrs will trump anyone's spewage. Its a waste to go any further if your education level on lifting has you at that you need failure to grow, sure close, but none of that was what I was talking about. When you actually learn how to manipulate the big three Intensity Volume and Frequency to program, you will SEE there are many many ways to spur growth and progression. Also with more consistency than some mook constantly pushing up the slow grinders, or to the wall. Programming changes as you move up are needed for naturals even more, over some imbecile thinking because they put on their first 20 30lb of mass, with ANY method, that its some golden bs. for the next 20. Don't quote questions from what you think I meant, quote them from my actual post if you want to understand them.
Dorian is a very wise man.
A legend!
Love him
Took a week off before i started mentzers workout. I was doing calisthenics for weight loss i was eating the carnivore diet training 5-6 days a week. Saw no difference really. Took a week off stayed on my diet i gave into a Kit Kat a couple of times, and during the recover process watched my belly shrink my abs were back and my definition returned now im going into week 2 of mentzers workout this Friday. I already noticed an increase in strength already in my legs. We’ll see if get stronger in my arms next week. About to do my chest and back here soon for the first time.
Hes a legend....
I’ve worked out for 44 years and I’ve packed on 80 pounds of muscle on my body. I have tried all types including hit and they all work for a little while. Then you have to change it up.!
@wiccanwarrior9 the body gets used to what you do and responds to change initially great,but then slows growing again. I guess 44 yrs and 80 lbs of muscle I don’t know ?
Agreed...eventually HIT won't work regardless of what Dorian says, lets be honest when you are on the amount of drugs that Dorian was on anything and everything works, he could of trained volume and he would of got the same results..but ultimately you need to change it up
This is what I've been doing before hearing this 👍💪. 1 warm up set to get blood pumping then straight to working sets
Mike Mentzer had one of my favorite classic golden era physiques. The guy looked awesome at his peak. However, I'm leaning more toward the silver era of the 1940s and 50s, when steroids weren't used because I think it was healthier, i.e. not hard on the heart. I like Steve Reeves's physique from that era. Healthiness should be a key component of bodybuilding, along with symmetry.
11/16/23, 12:30 p.m.
Dorian legs are huge,the guy is 61 😳 !!
He cycles alot
@@TeeTee-zm2rehe's only on TRT and has been for years now
@@johnhilton8838 im talking about cycling as in bicycling.
@@johnhilton8838on a bike
@@johnhilton8838He means (bi)cycling. Dorian does a lot of bike riding.
Dorian and Mike showed that volume isn't the only way to train.Volume will remain popular bc it's easier.
3:50 - 3:54
Look at his calves, STILL!!!!
💯%TRUTH💪🏽
1:15 he's describing high intensity training right here. This training is extreme and it works. I started training this way 5 weeks ago.
Can you write down the program? And send me the tren?
@@driesvdg8743 Chest, back, biceps, triceps, shoulders, forearms, traps all done in the same workout.
3 exercises for chest, back ,shoulders. 2 exercises for all the others. One warmup set to 50% intensity, 2nd set to 75% intensity, then the complete failure set. This is done for each exercise. 7 seconds per rep on the failure set. 4 seconds on the negative part of the movement, 1 second press, 2 seconds at the contraction. The very last rep, where you need assistance to get it because of muscle failure; you hold that in contraction for as long as possible, then lower it on the negative as slow as possible. If you think you can keep going, lower the weight substantially, then do it again at the lower weight as a drop set. Good luck.
It takes me almost 2 hours to complete this workout, and I'm 100% wasted from it. Take 4-5 days off before even thinking about doing those same muscles again. The rest time is when you grow.
Following day after upper body is leg day. Same principle. 3 exercises. Leg extensions, leg curls, leg press. Then calves after. I'm done in 25-30 minutes and I physically can't walk for 5 minutes afterwards. Rest 4-5 days. I also do abs and cardio on leg day. Done within an hour and a half.
If you want PED's, I have a source I use.
Personally, you shouldn't touch the stuff until you've built enough muscle naturally. Body fat content low as well.
did you ever get a program?@@driesvdg8743
The knock on this program is that it works in the short term but is not sustainable over the long term.
@@nboss968 That is why you must continually change up the exercises you do. Do supersets, drop sets, etc. I have been doing this program for just over 2 months and have had to change things up.
Dorian is genius,the golden era freak mass monster.
as far as i concerned its the best way to train, done it all my life never got injured.
well you train all day you silly bastard, you will get nowhere, cheers
Dorian is the Albert Einstein of body building………..period!!
Not really, he got so much from Mike Mentzer. Arthur taught Mike, Mike taught Dorian.
Closer to a lecturer at a provincial university.@@miguelfilo962
One thing you have to consider. Some of us get a lot of pleasure out o being at the gym, it's like a home away from home. It's stress relief and I enjoy training. I didn't enjoy heavy duty. I still go to failure and train hard but it's periodizd.
Man that was great advice. I'm putting it to work.
Mentzer was correct. Especially for naturals
Absolutely, don't listen to the haters! He was a genius
"Mentzer was correct" yeah go tell that to ronnie Coleman or Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Mentzer was a cry baby who couldn’t handle not being the man Arnold was
@@slws14did you miss when he said "especially for nattys". Arnold and Ronnie, not only were genetic freaks were also not natural. Highly unlikely they could train like they did, 6/7 days a week, 2/3 hours a day while not on the juice
@@jamesball5743Genuine human beings have a harder time dealing with injustice
HIT is undeniably the best method for building muscle, plus it's not time-consuming.
@Mantastic-ho3vm You
just have to rach failure correctly. Failure is forcing 2-3 reps when your mind and body want to stop.
The master!
Despite not being a fan of modern bodybuilding aesthetics, those black and whites of Dorian after putting on all that mass are insane!!!
Does this work for natural athletes/people as well?
Mentzers teachings are real and work for the natural builder
Very smart! I train like Dorian last 2-3 years,the best progres in my life!!! Before I train to often ,no progres at all,but its not easy to understand that 6 sets for chest its better than 20!?😅 You have to try and You will see 💪for naturals that already train years the best after training 2 days off, ofcourse You have to train like its the last workout of your Life💪💪💪💪
just wish i'd known about HIT in my 20's
It wouldn't of made much of a difference
It's difficult to train like this because I actually just enjoy the gym I like lifting the weights and doing sets. Less is really more in terms of progress though
I’ve been saying this my whole life. This is the way to lift.
@Mantastic-ho3vmdoesn’t work for you too bad 😂
il a raison, je m'entraine un peu comme ça, j'ai fait tellement de progrès.
Triceps 3 exo, 2 séries par exo et tout le monde me regardent "déjà fini ?? "
And by the way, Dorian's legs are still crazy
Dorian Yates training works the best, but you gotta be willing to put all out effort into the exercise. I like this type of training the best, however I will switch up with 5 x 5 training here and there or just go the gym and mess around when i don't feel like training all out
Is ANY increase what I should be looking for? Eg, more weight, more reps, or more sets? Anything is progress, right?
Harder than last time. :)
Legend
Dorian casually sitting there with those genetically gifted calves.