@@frankaenstein Hai Kaeden, as a student questioning about about my sexuality in Singapore I really admire you speaking out and it gave me a bit of courage to accept who I am, ii your very brave and I really admire that and you too, AND you look very handsome and nice (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
I may not be trans, but I did felt uncomfortable to wear female school skirt to during my secondary school, I don't like to look myself in the mirror. I always love PE, because after school I would change into short pants without fail. Gradually I bring short pants to school everyday after school. I love how school days life had finally ended.
So I am not the only one about the gov school uniform. I am not trans but I prefer men clothing then female clothing. Previous my toxic friend tried to put me a skit because she is in one and a woman and I have to act like one. (I cut contact) I have nothing against trans, I do respect them in our society because there are some older generation are still old fashion in their heads.
@@NewmaticKe it’s a personal right to be able to wear what one is comfortable in. I understand the benefits of having uniforms for secondary schools but what you said made absolutely no sense in my opinion and showed ignorance. So are you implying that polytechnics and universities are not schools? I hope that you think about what you comment and do it in a respectful manner seeing how your clearly of age to do so.
A lot of our teachers (not all) were so underdeveloped in regards to EQ. I don't know how common it is in other countries but throughout primary and secondary school the teachers were almost equivalent to bullies, to be honest.
Idk how other countries would dealt this situation in general, but in my country this would have been worse because mostly people would bullied you ;~;
As someone who studied in SIngapore during my early childhood, this is still something I often think about. My teachers were all condescending and borderline emotionally abusive. This was primary school, so all us kids were under the age of ten, and this was in the 2000's. I often wonder what caused them to behave like that.
lmao sec sch i was so done i just used logic on the teacher. i got scolded for picking up my phone to move it away then the teacher scolded me so i said "ok then in this scenario i forgot to keep my phone away how do you propose i shift it without physically touching it? psychic?"
@@smolkidd eugh I can imagine the teacher's retort would be something along the line of "Then you should've put it away before lesson etc." They make such an issue over anything, I swear. Like Rayhaan mentioned above, I think their condescending attitude stems from some sort of superiority complex. Teacher > Students. Our country's elitism problem.
As a person going through Secondary School education [Sec 2] right now, I can thankfully say that I had some _really_ nice teachers. I am not sure if it’s the fact I avoid trouble and have always attended what is considered the “best class” in the school, but I think the Teachers have improved a lot when it comes to handling their students the correct way. I don’t know, maybe it’s just my school and I’m just really lucky.
teachers no matter where you live (or maybe just in asia idk i might be bias) can be the biggest bullies. my bio teacher started to call my friend with names and the whole class imitated him by calling him that. the same bio teacher also said innuendos to me and it made me so uncomfortable. for months after that i felt so uncomfortable undressing because there was words came out from his head just looping in my head and its disgusting. one time counselor from highschool that i went to show her hatred towards LGBTQ+ people in the class, spreading misinformation that they spread HIV and stuff. i felt like i was attacked as well because im closeted bisexual. one time in middle school my math teacher humiliated me in front of the class and threw whiteboard eraser towards me bc i didnt know the answer. not only that she also attacked my family name. forgot to say that these bullies get paid twice more than standart salary in my country. i know some might say "iTs JuSt A JoKe KiD" but when you attacked someone else's personal life and made jokes towards 15 years old, thats beyond disgusting. plus these people technically also TEACH thair students how to be a bully.
the teachers in sg love to bring their own political views against the lgbtq+'s existence into the picture all the time, because they know that when they talk to kids, we won't argue back, and if we do, they can hurt us, basically they are too weak to actually have a well thought out debate on the issue and would much rather pick on people smaller and weaker than them, where they won't have any real consequences for doing so. They know how easily influenced by them we can be too, it's all just pure manipulation.
@@smilefenn4813 My school (in SG) taught the sec 2s about sexual orientation (this year). They had slides and everything on the difference between sexual orientation, biology and stuff. The teacher didn't even make a nasty comment. (She didn't even know what straight was! Though she knew what heterosexuality meant)
These shows even adults are unable to discern such matters. Regardless of age, we humans portray such emotions or behaviour cause we are unaware how we should react/internalise in such foreign situation.
Most bully victims such as autistic people, aspergers, Tourettes, or other social conditions don’t choose to be that way. Trannies on the other hand, do.
what makes u think that teachers are gonna protect em when they are already discriminating against normal tech students.. ( Not all of em teachers.) they just want their "secure" government payroll.
Some teachers won't do a thing to hurt anyone of the LGBT community. When my school touched on the topic of sexual orientation, my CCE teacher didn't even know what straight meant lmao. I doubt she'll know what transgender means.
I recently read abt this trans kid who compared being unable to transition properly, wearing clothing that didnt fit their gender and getting dirty looks for being trans etc to having a really bad haircut all the time. The self consciousness hits really hard.
Black trans women in America have an average life expectancy of 34 years. Having a bad hair cut does decrease your life expectancy. Trying to get cisgender to understand what is like to experience gender dysphoria is impossible.
its a double whammy for transfolks. youre wearing stuff that makes you feel like your body isnt there/not yours. when youre already feeling like that. in a sense, youre forced to, so you go along. but yet, youre still being shamed for trying to adhere to the rules. its like.. fuck, whats the solution? oh yeah, .. be accepted for being what i am. the best of what i am. and be able to contribute to society coz im my best self and accepted for that.
firstly, its a kid, a kid may not have the best most well thought out argument. Secondly, if you actually wish to have an opinion on the existence of an entire part of the human population, do research first.
I recognise the secondary school that kaeden is talking about and I have a friend that is born a female but uses he/him pronoun and the discipline mistress would always call him by his deadname and he once cried infront of her bc of that and she asked him to toughen up cause it’s not A BIG DEAL... yea he transferred :)
i understand kaeden’s idea of like the no homophobia or transphobia but i think that like if this rule was there, teachers would try their best to “abide” by the rules but harass the students in secret, maybe it would be better to have a rule where teachers must stick to the students boundaries, transphobic, homophobic or not. the teacher must respect the student of their sexual orientation at the very least, no need to show support, just respect.
I love this. I strongly agree with the last point you made. There should not be a need to show support, but simple respect or tolerance is enough. Its the same as racial issues really, even LKY said we need to practice tolerance to racial differences, and not force ourselves to love something.
Singapore law sucks for LGBT community Cause their marriage not allowed unless you are male and women And people here discriminate all these people as some Singapore people say they are not to exist As it is not excepted here
June is such a positive woman, love her! Thank you for sharing this documentary. Everyone is human first and should be treated as such, regardless of gender (or lack of), ethnicity, class or religion.
Thank you for shedding light on what's happening in my country. Grew up in the most conventional way and took the most traditional "elite" education route, yet I'm so unaware of such social issues. What a shame...
the sad thing is many Singaporeans are quick to bash their own country in their day to day lives but aren’t receptive / get defensive when societal issues like this are raised
As a demiboy living in Malaysia I get bullied for trying to change my pronouns and my name to the point that I had to change schools so now in my new school I stopped telling people who I truly was cause I didn’t want to get bullied and it really truly feels depressing not being your real self
Singapore always a western/white ppl wannabe but when it comes to cultural open minded or LGBT acceptance or tolerance for diversity, it keep Asian-mindset kinda conservative instead of completely following Western footsteps it’s even ironic when SG is the fastest changing city in the world, that things progress quickly from time to time, the elderly should’ve learn to accept the reality that society changed, and everyone can be anyone nowadays
Wts? This literally shyt comes from america. Google where the 3 major mega church founders get ordained/studied. Also, focus on family. Look up where all those kpkb comes from. West is NOT LGBT frdly,only some in the eu.
Thank you for this video. I had an easy time in the Singaporean education system, I had no idea what struggles other people are facing. Videos like these are quite eye-opening, thank you.
Sadly until SG remove the gay law that they said "they don't really enforce it anyway" it will be all round difficulties for everyone in terms of marriage, house applications and schools. As a girl i never liked wearing our school skirts in school, like why the hell must i wear it, i had to end up wearing another shorts inside to avoid getting harassed and skirts is rather inconvenient all in all. And the reasoning i get is coz i'm a girl, and i'm like... So? Its just so medieval to force people to be someone or something just because its the norm.
Thank you to Vice Asia for featuring us - and for the words of Chris, Kaeden, and June! Likewise, for LGBTQIA+ people in the comments and who have watched the film, let this be known that solidarity among our communities here can be possible, and that there is still (ground)work to be done on multiple fronts. Sending lots of love ❤️
I am not a trance person .. but I am tomboyish girl . I was the only girl who used to wear pants and shirt since young nursery classes . My principal supported my decision my teachers supported my choice of school uniform .. you know what my principal said to my parents , they said that " the school dress code doesn't matter , it's the education that matters . " I was very young but I still remember those words till this date i didn't know how meaningful it was I was just happy that they were letting me choose what I wanted to wear .. now I feel how nice principal and how nice teachers I was blessed with .. those pants made me feel more comfortable I am not that tomboish now now but I still feel blessed to have such nice people in my life ........ . I am from India I really don't understand why trans people are treated like that it doesn't make any sense .. they are people too may be a bit different but that's variety it's their uniqueness let them live their life their choice they deserve their happiness .. love and hugs 😘😘😘
@@NobitaSwag yes my school in India ..that too in a conservative people's state .. still my school principal and teacher were not conservative .. I feel blessed to have them .
I meet few people and they are trans ,i don't care .i see them like i see other human being.even gay/ lesbian.i don't understant why they judge people like them ,is their live ,just leave them if you don't like .
@@Noname-kp7cs supporting & respect are two different things . and yeah ,if a trans person becomes our president ,then so be it ,they are human as well ,why do you make it sound like they aren't ?
Heyo, to all the trans folks scrolling through the comments: i know that there's many people who oppose you, who try to tear you down, who try to justify your erasure from society. It's hard, and sg is far from becoming a progressive country anytime soon; but change, although slow, is happening, and perhaps one day we can live in a country that lives up to its national pledge: a democratic society, based on justice and equality. For now, it will be painful, but I assure you that you are stronger than any of these people here. No matter what, these people have no right to dictate the way you live, the gender you identify as, or the people you love. You are you, and no one can change that :) From a fellow member of the lgbtqia+ to another
Nobody should be denied of God's love even if they are trans. Jesus loves the trans eventhough I'm not a trans. I'm a pastor and the transgender plp are welcomed to our church in malaysia.
@@wetheboms I think stating this clearly shows that you have no idea what transgender is. The bible verse you stated is regarding cross-dressing, a man dressed as a woman or vice versa. Being trans is NOT cross dressing. It is embodying a gender that DOES NOT align with the one that was given at birth. The pastor who you replied to above did not state quote the bible. I am not a trans nor member of the LGBTQ but i get my facts straight before condemning others.
Never understand the need to get involved with someone's gender identity or sexual orientation. If someone wants to be trans, and their family and friends are ok with it, why does the school have a say in it? And if what they are doing isn't affecting you personally, why be negative about it? Its sus as hell when people react so negatively about these things.
Exactly! Being trans or gay or something doesnt affect their ability to learn, it doesnt harm anyone else. But being transphobic will affect their ability to learn and will hurt them
@@elliaustr017 exactly! I find it so weird why can't people just let others love who they want or be who they want. There's always that extra person or group who likes to stick their head into something that doesn't affect them.
Singaporeans or rather a lot of the older ones are xenophobic. It might sound obnoxious but I’d really love to see how the world will change once all of them are gone. I heard from a friend that her mother was texting all her friends to vote against the gay marriage law (I can’t remember the number) but it’s things like this that just put me off. Why can’t we just let people be. Jesus....
No one is xenophobic. We just believe in science. The word marriage means between a man and a woman. Just like the word water means H2O. Anything else needs help and love. Many stories of successful people that are able to return back to their gender by birth. All other genders are social construct.
@@Goofygoobn - it doesn’t make your opinion right. Truth is not measured by agreement of the majority. Watch this: ruclips.net/video/v--BuHXVA70/видео.html
June Chua reminds me of my childhood friend. She is malay born male body who eventually becomes a women. She works in retail line as a very successful sale manager. I hope everyone deserves due respect and are given a chance to live normally in the gender they prefer.
great video explaining how unheard trans students are by the majority and the impact on their education. thanks @vice for shining a light on this topic!
Super thankful for this!!! I feel like upper tertiary education settings might be more accepting than earlier educational settings. Ironically, transgender students would need the most support at a younger age when they are still figuring themselves out. More should be done to prepare teachers of primary and secondary schools to support and cater to transgender students more!
So glad this issue is getting a spotlight on the global stage. Here's hoping that Singapore will finally open her mind and heart to EVERY citizen in the near future
You must understand, Singapore is a conservative society. Regardless of who much you advocate we have to cater to the different races and religions here in Singapore especially the original inhabitants the Malay Muslim community that we must respect because Singapore has a Mufti working with the government.
I remember this topic in JC GP and basically SG govt is yet to be ready to accept trans. Their mindset to these students in sec sch are that they are not mature enough and may have been just 'trying to be trans' due to social media etc... There are so many teachers who are older and they are yet to be ready to accept this mindset resulting in these behaviour. For any change to be done in schools, it need to start from the govt cause honestly SG govt is still very conservative about these issues.
To be honest, this is quite sad. From what I know, my schoolmates.(mostly but not all), are quite open to LGBT. We do not really insult people who are part LGBT... we either don't care or support it. Nobody really cares what sexuality you are and like we respect your pronouns and this is sad to hear that people and students are experiencing that elsewhere. I am not saying everything in my school accepts...there are some people that don't and are kinda homophobic/transphobic but yeah I think nowadays the students (younger generations are more accepting compared to older generations based on how they grew up. I hope everything will better!
I think it's a heng-suay kind of thing. In my sec sch (a long time ago, before it's normalized on the internet) there was a "butch", they played basketball with the boys daily wearing the school skirt+under shorts, they had a lot of friends; no one blinked twice. Years later I saw him on FB he did ftm transition after all; was happy for them. Then in my poly there was a mtf (haven't transitioned) but hung out with the girls, girls treated her like one of their own, everyone was chill with them. In uni in my course there was also a mtf (transitioned). Also hung out with the girls, went to the girl's toilet, and no one really cared. I point this out because this uni one was like 177cm tall with a deep voice so everyone could tell they're trans instantly but no one bullied or made fun of them. I'm sorry these ppl had a hard time growing up. Wish you all could've had a different sch/kids around you, it would've been so different. :(
If you think there are alot of ignorant and disrespectful comments, the replies to comments are even worse. These people are strangers to you. If they and their choice aren't hurting people, then please respect it. Keep the hurtful remarks to yourself when you look in the mirror
To me I’m Christian I’m fine with the 🏳️🌈 I can’t hate them it not right because this is who they and it their own chooses they are happy with it let them be and still Jesus tell us not to hate anyone no matter who they are
@@bogdang2250 I don't have to be. I was in the very same cult who was homophobic. Can you say christianity is anti-lght or lgbt friendly based on that bible??
hello Kaeden, I'm someone you knew back in primary school, when you were still called a****y (i'm not sure if you'd like me to reveal it so i'll censor it). I remember one specific incident when we were leaving school together and I said "bye dude!" and you told me to not call you that. I think that that moment was very important for me to realize that everyone is different in their own way. Admittedly, I was still confused back then but I remember you telling me that you'd like to go trans but you were still too young. I'm really glad to know that you have not been crushed by societal norms and continued being you. :)
@@frankaenstein nope, but we we talked quite a bit? Honestly thinking about, I can't seem to remember how we knew each other haha. I'm actually pretty curious, how did vice contact you for this video ?
It's really reassuring as a non binary person to hear ppl supporting more nowadays. But it does really suck that many still discriminate and even within my own sec school. Even sexuality ed only involved 'Heterosexual', 'Bisexual' and Gay. Nothing about other genders than 'Girl' or 'Boy' Even thinking about wearing boy sch pants appealed to me before
How can a child get an education if the system that was designed to support them discrimates and ostracize them? Hearing the story about the teacher from Kaeden breaks my heart. I hope governments stop legislating identity and give the freedom that the trans community deserves.
Kaeden said at 5:12 -19 “I don’t really come to this neighbourhood often” Then at 5:30-36 : “ I have been back here quite a few times since I left “ ???? Isn’t that contradicting himself?
@@spiderjump Technically... Gay people "can't think straight" cause they aren't straight- This is a very common joke, but I don't know if the guy meant to offend gay people
I left quite a while ago but I’ve been back a couple times. When I said that I don’t go there often I mean that I probably go there once every couple months
What they hate more than a tran person on the other half of the world is in fact, themselves. Finding things to keep hating on daily just to feel something. Just to have that attention.
That teacher that harassed Kaedan was no TEACHER. She was a bully, plain and simple. MOE needs to retrain teachers. There are and there will always have LGBT+ students.
🙌👏for both trans female to male is not easy and by embark on this trans road is very brave, they despite the social normal or acceptance they just do what they like rather to blend in, it would be so much easier to dress like girl but both brave person just be truth to themselves, I was not as brave, I am more of tomboy and I wanted to be boy since young but now I am and still trying to accept myself as there is always female and male side of one person and this make each individuals unique in a way and no one person are the same, I have only upmost respects for trans people, as they need to be medicated forever in their life and you need to have certain guts to gone through the surgery
@@frankaenstein Yo man you’re so eloquent! Thanks for being part of this video 🥺 ps your dp is chef’s kiss. All the best for everything that’s to come :)
I had couple friends in secondary school who was trans. It was sad to see teachers keep misgendering. But also i didnt like him, he was annoying and keep copying my homework. T.T
trans not trans whatever the pronouns are, they are just words. they dont define us. our actions defines us. i really hope one day society learns to respect everyone. why not start by seeing everyone as humans bc i dont see a difference!!
Im a trans person who was kicked out of school, had abusive parents, failed school, left my home, was homeless, basically life went to shit right after my parents read my personal journal and found out i was trans. As someone who is asian but living in canada, i am curious as to how being lgbq is like in asia.
Generally from my observations, Taiwan seems to be the best place for LGBT individuals to live in based on rights as they even allow same-sex marriage; The rest varies from alright to absolutely awful and I'd say the country that I live in might be one of the worst for trans individuals as even wearing clothes affirming to my gender is criminalized. I'm sorry with what you have to go through btw.
I don’t understand why the students are required to wear a uniform matching their gender. Like u already hv a uniform isnt that uniform enough? The girls vant wear pants?
its common in Asian school (elementary-high school, 1st to 12th class), especially southeast asia, male and female students have different uniforms. male wear pants, and female wear skirts (unless on sports)
right. just wear the school colors. thats it. much like nurses.. wear the colors/patterns so we can identify you belong to this institution but otherwise, keep tidy and hygienic and go along with whats best for yourself.
Am I the only one who finds the starting background music familiar? Isn't this the background music which Flutter puts in their "Widget of the week" videos?
Just dress like a man or a woman , you don't have to go through costly surgery and hormone therapy to end up with genitals that don't look or function like the real thing and physical attributes that make you look like neither man or woman.
@@ItzHoot I think you really don't understand what it means to be trans if these are your views. You should really stop and listen and try to understand why trans people decide to have surgery.
@@nate6045 I have had gay and lesbian friends and family and before the "trans movement" girls would just dress up like men and they would be called dykes ( not always derogatory term ) and men were called cross dressers or drag queens. I really want to be a multimillionaire but just because I feel and identify as one doesn't make it true , also have you seen pictures of the genital mutilation that's going on? it's outrageous and causes many people to commit suicide.
@@ItzHoot many trans people commit suicide because people don't stop making their life harder every chance they get. also not all of them choose to get surgery, but they should be able to decide themselves.
@@oskari3659 look up post gender change suicide rates, people think all there problems are gender related and they change and they realise it wasn't the issue then suicide. facts don't lie.
To 99% of the people commenting: If you haven't a read a scholarly article on gender dysphoria, don't undermine it. Its real, competent healthcare professionals agree its real, don't foster hollow hatred against anyone that's different.
Of course is unacceptable,,imagine someone like kaeden in school..teachers busy looking for him..but he was stuck in toilet with bottom body busy examined n abused by male classmates daily throughout the school years..
I love this. Other documentaries of trans folks in asia are always focused on transwomen and then confusing crossdressing. This really shows how it is to live as a trans youth in school.
Singapore is still so freaking conservative, people need to just be open about it. If straight and heterosexuals can be themselves, why cant the LGBTs be like that too? I live in the north of Singapore and i always see a gay couple holding hands, i like how they just do it openly. Although i dont see people starring or pinpointing, i know it might happen behind closed doors.
Oh my god Christopher Khor used to go to my dad’s church (I’m not Christian anymore)! I don’t know if you’ll see this but my dad is Pastor Andrew. Anyways, I have mad respect for you. Thank you for speaking-up on these issues. It seriously ticks me off how our country treats our people. It was actually one of your family members who made me really question whether or not homosexuality is wrong in the first place and I eventually came to the conclusion that it isn’t and that led to many other personal revelations haha. Once again, thank you so much Christopher and congratulations for getting the chance to do this! Also as a side note, there is one school I know of that actually respects the gender identity of their students that teaches at the secondary level and that’s The School of The Arts (SOTA).
So you are the son of a Pastor... I hope he he learned his lesson and doesn't still go around condemning LGBT... Many Homophobic people ends up having gay children it seem. My Neighbor use to be very sarcastic and bitchy to my mother about me not being married and all, which made my poor mother very upset..... Than her daughter turned out to be a lesbian. Maybe there is a God after all.
If you are employed by an airline as a steward can you turn up for work in a stewardess uniform? Some people dress stupid to solicit attention then claim discrimination.
gendered uniforms are redundant to begin with, and either way whichever uniform someone chooses to wear isn't indicative of whether they're good at their job... which should be the main focus anyway. if one uniform is more comfortable to someone over another option, and helps them gain confidence at work, why is this your issue?
In school, a uniform is something made to prevent students from discriminating each other on their social class/appearance. The teachers are making the uniform redundant.
Not all teachers are like that. Once 2 of my female classmates in relationship submitted a joint art project. A kid shouted disparaging remarks. My tcher was shocked but she immediately said we shud respect everyone! And thats in a Sg public school.
Some people never have any hair let alone a bad haircut, and i have been told by those who know, it can be, and often is much more problematic than that, as bad as a lesser hairdo sounds to some possibly self privileged people.
We are one of the most inclusive societies in Asia and in the world. If you’ve travelled you would realise that we are. There are issues and no country is perfect, but to criticise a country like Singapore in such a manner, despite our high level of tolerance and acceptance and say “you actually thought Singapore is an inclusive society” is unjustified and shows a level of ignorance. Other countries have it a lot worse and Singaporeans are honestly so lucky to live in a place where discrimination here pretty much ends with words. We need to do better and any discrimination is wrong and disgusting, but appreciate what you have. Have a good day
In Singapore, whether you support or oppose the trans community is determined by who you've met in the transgender community and your experience because of who you are. (Let me oversimplify with 3 types) No.1: The very talented one If the transgender person is talented and have many skills under his/her belt, you'll have the thought, "WOW!! Trans people are just like us, the laws here are seriously unjust. How can we discriminate someone based on their identity? Aren't we supposed to be a meritocratic society?" No.2: The always kenna bullied one Transgender people faced bullying and deadnaming in school... If you are from my school, it's a literal WWE match everyday. There's a saying from my seniors from my school: If you were insulted, it's a good day. If you were beaten, it's an average day. If you were caught, it's a bad day. There was so much bullying in school that the discipline master couldn't deal with everything, so I literally have to learn how to brawl and beat someone till they ended up in hospital. I hope no one in any community face this kind of bullying. No.3: The flamboyant one Since we are on the topic of schools, I believe that the school is not your runway, nor is it the place you find your sexuality, it is the place, you study and learn. The whole point of a uniform is to enforce conformity in schools to give the "impression" of equality, as it equality in misery. The part in this video that turns me off is the part where June was asked if she was affected by school bullying and she replied, "I wasn't, I don't see it as bullying, I see them as teasing, I see it as giving me attention, I love it." I understand it is meant to be "when life gives you lemons, make lemonades" type of situation. But some wouldn't see it that way, especially if they've been victims of unwanted attention. If you met the 1st type, you will support trans rights If you met the 2nd type, it's a flip coin chance you support/oppose trans rights If you met the 3rd type, you will oppose trans rights In case you want to add a comment, "Well, those types of people exist in every community..." Hear me out... Are transgender people a tiny minority in Singapore? Yes. What are the chances of you interacting with the transgender community outside of Pink Dot? Very low. As a rule, the less interaction, the more you stereotype. Hence, the impact of one bad apple can really change your views of the community as a whole.
I'm a Bisexual girl and I live in Singapore. I'm 13 years old. My entire family is homophobic, but I still love them even though they are really against it. I'm in secondary two now, and the people in my secondary school are accepting of the LGBTQ+ community, lucky for me. I'm still having trouble accepting who I am. I sometimes use They/Them pronouns and I identify mostly as female. The teachers in my secondary school don't know about me being Bisexual but the students here are pretty supportive of the LGBTQ+ community. I came out to most of the people in my class and they are okay with it. (I still haven't come out to my family btw-) I am questioning my gender and still trying to decide on who I am. I hope one day, people can be more accepting of the LGBTQ+ community and realise that everyone is human. Yes, I am Christian, but I believe God loves all of us. No matter whether we are part of the LGBTQ+ community or not. Whoever reads this comment, Thanks for hearing my story. Stay safe!
@@heiwa8697 I mean, you aren't wrong- being judged by society's standards is tough work. especially being judged by you. everyone is different, you just need to accept it. I respect your opinion.
I'm in sec 1 and bisexual, as well living with parents that don't support lgbt+ people. It's pretty cool that you could come out to some of the people in your class because I couldn't even tell my best friends :,) Also don't listen to the comments -they're probably misinformed or something. We should be ourselves even though some may think it's a bit different or odd, as long as it doesn't hurt others 🏳️🌈
hahaha this is true... I'm from Singapore If you say you hate the skirt... they won't let you........ the will just say 'ewww you're suppose to wear skirts not pants"
I feel so happy for the fact that Kaeden was so brave to come out and be who he wants especially in Singapore , as a Demi-boy and a bisexual who is a AFAB and most people in my school are homophobic because it hard to let my Teachers and friends know my preferred name and pronouns kinda like how trans people would feel.
the fact is most people don't give a fuck about what your sexuality is so yea stop being that entitled and expect everyone to learn from you. Most people just wanna live their lifes
Was it necessary to film near the school? Be it in any school, the same shit will happen. Yes things have to change but there's always 2 sides of the story. Try to understand both parties. The school is just following "protocol".
Teacher and education administrators MUST be taught how negative comments and behavior towards Trans-Bi and Gay students have major impact upon their self worth. My 8th grade teacher, Mr Bradley shaped my entire prospective about being Black male in American society. I, to this day, thank God he was there being understanding and supportive every Student in his classes.
I feel like no significant change is going to be happening any time soon cuz of the birth rate issue in Singapore. Singapore wants more babies and trans people are kinda going against that cuz trans people can’t really make babies
Kaeden looks so good wearing the male uniform.I dont unserstand why he had to wear the sgirt
That was the girls’ uniform though I just wasn’t wearing the skirt
@@frankaenstein sup Kaeden
@@frankaenstein the girls uni not that nice anyways.
@@frankaenstein Hai Kaeden, as a student questioning about about my sexuality in Singapore I really admire you speaking out and it gave me a bit of courage to accept who I am, ii your very brave and I really admire that and you too, AND you look very handsome and nice (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
@@rLegitian hello
I may not be trans, but I did felt uncomfortable to wear female school skirt to during my secondary school, I don't like to look myself in the mirror. I always love PE, because after school I would change into short pants without fail. Gradually I bring short pants to school everyday after school. I love how school days life had finally ended.
now multiply that feeling by 100.
Great, you went with the flow despite your discomfort. If everyone did what they felt, there wont be a school
So I am not the only one about the gov school uniform. I am not trans but I prefer men clothing then female clothing. Previous my toxic friend tried to put me a skit because she is in one and a woman and I have to act like one. (I cut contact)
I have nothing against trans, I do respect them in our society because there are some older generation are still old fashion in their heads.
@@NewmaticKe it’s a personal right to be able to wear what one is comfortable in. I understand the benefits of having uniforms for secondary schools but what you said made absolutely no sense in my opinion and showed ignorance. So are you implying that polytechnics and universities are not schools? I hope that you think about what you comment and do it in a respectful manner seeing how your clearly of age to do so.
@@leryitay5368 Spend more time to read than write
A lot of our teachers (not all) were so underdeveloped in regards to EQ. I don't know how common it is in other countries but throughout primary and secondary school the teachers were almost equivalent to bullies, to be honest.
Idk how other countries would dealt this situation in general, but in my country this would have been worse because mostly people would bullied you ;~;
As someone who studied in SIngapore during my early childhood, this is still something I often think about. My teachers were all condescending and borderline emotionally abusive. This was primary school, so all us kids were under the age of ten, and this was in the 2000's. I often wonder what caused them to behave like that.
lmao sec sch i was so done i just used logic on the teacher. i got scolded for picking up my phone to move it away then the teacher scolded me so i said "ok then in this scenario i forgot to keep my phone away how do you propose i shift it without physically touching it? psychic?"
@@smolkidd eugh I can imagine the teacher's retort would be something along the line of "Then you should've put it away before lesson etc." They make such an issue over anything, I swear. Like Rayhaan mentioned above, I think their condescending attitude stems from some sort of superiority complex. Teacher > Students. Our country's elitism problem.
As a person going through Secondary School education [Sec 2] right now, I can thankfully say that I had some _really_ nice teachers. I am not sure if it’s the fact I avoid trouble and have always attended what is considered the “best class” in the school, but I think the Teachers have improved a lot when it comes to handling their students the correct way.
I don’t know, maybe it’s just my school and I’m just really lucky.
teachers no matter where you live (or maybe just in asia idk i might be bias) can be the biggest bullies. my bio teacher started to call my friend with names and the whole class imitated him by calling him that. the same bio teacher also said innuendos to me and it made me so uncomfortable. for months after that i felt so uncomfortable undressing because there was words came out from his head just looping in my head and its disgusting. one time counselor from highschool that i went to show her hatred towards LGBTQ+ people in the class, spreading misinformation that they spread HIV and stuff. i felt like i was attacked as well because im closeted bisexual. one time in middle school my math teacher humiliated me in front of the class and threw whiteboard eraser towards me bc i didnt know the answer. not only that she also attacked my family name. forgot to say that these bullies get paid twice more than standart salary in my country. i know some might say "iTs JuSt A JoKe KiD" but when you attacked someone else's personal life and made jokes towards 15 years old, thats beyond disgusting. plus these people technically also TEACH thair students how to be a bully.
the teachers in sg love to bring their own political views against the lgbtq+'s existence into the picture all the time, because they know that when they talk to kids, we won't argue back, and if we do, they can hurt us, basically they are too weak to actually have a well thought out debate on the issue and would much rather pick on people smaller and weaker than them, where they won't have any real consequences for doing so. They know how easily influenced by them we can be too, it's all just pure manipulation.
I have never heard of this stuff.
@@smilefenn4813 wait really?
@@AndyHappyGuy ya lol if u havent seen it yet just wait
@@smilefenn4813 My school (in SG) taught the sec 2s about sexual orientation (this year). They had slides and everything on the difference between sexual orientation, biology and stuff. The teacher didn't even make a nasty comment. (She didn't even know what straight was! Though she knew what heterosexuality meant)
Wah the teachers damn sick, suppose to be protecting students but end up being the biggest bullies.
These shows even adults are unable to discern such matters. Regardless of age, we humans portray such emotions or behaviour cause we are unaware how we should react/internalise in such foreign situation.
Good lah the teacher bully
@@outlawzz8213 what
@@ls.rott3nsp1n33 what
Most bully victims such as autistic people, aspergers, Tourettes, or other social conditions don’t choose to be that way. Trannies on the other hand, do.
what makes u think that teachers are gonna protect em when they are already discriminating against normal tech students.. ( Not all of em teachers.) they just want their "secure" government payroll.
not all teachers are the same
Just wack only
@Ryan Sean Foo You're not the only one
@@iwybsnpcbtm7436 that’s what op said
Some teachers won't do a thing to hurt anyone of the LGBT community. When my school touched on the topic of sexual orientation, my CCE teacher didn't even know what straight meant lmao. I doubt she'll know what transgender means.
I recently read abt this trans kid who compared being unable to transition properly, wearing clothing that didnt fit their gender and getting dirty looks for being trans etc to having a really bad haircut all the time. The self consciousness hits really hard.
Black trans women in America have an average life expectancy of 34 years. Having a bad hair cut does decrease your life expectancy. Trying to get cisgender to understand what is like to experience gender dysphoria is impossible.
@@blackriver2531 That's so sad 🥺🥺
its a double whammy for transfolks.
youre wearing stuff that makes you feel like your body isnt there/not yours. when youre already feeling like that. in a sense, youre forced to, so you go along. but yet, youre still being shamed for trying to adhere to the rules. its like.. fuck, whats the solution? oh yeah, .. be accepted for being what i am. the best of what i am. and be able to contribute to society coz im my best self and accepted for that.
firstly, its a kid, a kid may not have the best most well thought out argument. Secondly, if you actually wish to have an opinion on the existence of an entire part of the human population, do research first.
@@blackriver2531 it really boils down to how much empathy how many cis people have.
I recognise the secondary school that kaeden is talking about and I have a friend that is born a female but uses he/him pronoun and the discipline mistress would always call him by his deadname and he once cried infront of her bc of that and she asked him to toughen up cause it’s not A BIG DEAL... yea he transferred :)
@WEE LE QING the school is in the west actually
@WEE LE QING oh sorry I might have misunderstood. acs and other schools seem quite far from the one kaeden talked about haha
Soooooo is he going to volunteer for NS?
@WEE LE QING oof. Honestly thats quite unfortunate.
@WEE LE QING The sch that they filmed was swiss cottage sec. I recognised the roads.
i understand kaeden’s idea of like the no homophobia or transphobia but i think that like if this rule was there, teachers would try their best to “abide” by the rules but harass the students in secret, maybe it would be better to have a rule where teachers must stick to the students boundaries, transphobic, homophobic or not. the teacher must respect the student of their sexual orientation at the very least, no need to show support, just respect.
I love this. I strongly agree with the last point you made. There should not be a need to show support, but simple respect or tolerance is enough.
Its the same as racial issues really, even LKY said we need to practice tolerance to racial differences, and not force ourselves to love something.
No
@@outlawzz8213 yes
@@riveringleaf5568 no
ikr... just treat the student like any other student and don't mind the sexual orientation if it bothers the teacher
the fact that a kid has to go through academic stress, on top of that, teachers'/adults' harassment
Singapore law sucks for LGBT community
Cause their marriage not allowed unless you are male and women
And people here discriminate all these people as some Singapore people say they are not to exist
As it is not excepted here
the teacher was just doing his/her duty
@@matreen427 are you talking about the harassment part?
@@matreen427 no? Sorry. A teacher is supposed to educate,not harass a literal child about their own personal beliefs.
@@oiduncb3457 agreed
Its so sad that we have to hide ourselves where we’re supposed to be in our “ second home “
And for some of us, we have to hide ourselves even in our actual home.
good :) welcome to a conservertive country mate
@@atouhoufan607 ??? Ok
@@olive9514 Like serious move to a other country once you done NS
@@atouhoufan607 bro I not doing NS LMFAO but maybe if it’s convenient or something idk LOL
TFW in Singapore, "a group of protestors" is like, 4
or three 🙄😔
@@leigh7816 I mean, 1 is enough
They were enough to raise awareness and open up more discussions on this matter in singapore.
Cos 5 or more is considered an unlawful assembly.......
it's covid period, guess they tried to adhere to regulations in pax of 5, that is why
June is such a positive woman, love her! Thank you for sharing this documentary. Everyone is human first and should be treated as such, regardless of gender (or lack of), ethnicity, class or religion.
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@@cincent5805 must we see a transphobe everywhere wtf
@@ladyvoso6392 ok dude
@@ladyvoso6392 - identifying a person is a fact and logical answer is base on science.
No one is transphobic here.
This person needs help.
Thank you for shedding light on what's happening in my country. Grew up in the most conventional way and took the most traditional "elite" education route, yet I'm so unaware of such social issues. What a shame...
yup, I like your username
I am proud..u should leave this country
Random idea but what if uniforms were not gendered, but unisex.
embarassing that we have to have an overseas media company cover things because no one here will do it 😔
I think it is great that Singaporeans are still the ones covering the issues of Singaporeans; Vice just acts as an outlet
the sad thing is many Singaporeans are quick to bash their own country in their day to day lives but aren’t receptive / get defensive when societal issues like this are raised
It won't be filmed. Same country that has censor on TV etc. lame.
@@JoeL-dc6ir Its not easy to suddenly turn a country into one that openly accepts LGBTQ...give some time
They themself didn't accept their true nature , then want all country to accept them?
I'M SO MAD AT HOW THE TEACHERS BEHAVED?? seriously most grown-ups are more immature and narrow minded than students when it comes to lgbtq+ matters...
As a demiboy living in Malaysia I get bullied for trying to change my pronouns and my name to the point that I had to change schools so now in my new school I stopped telling people who I truly was cause I didn’t want to get bullied and it really truly feels depressing not being your real self
what is a demi boy ? serious question not trying to troll you.
Spider Salticidae someone who is non-binary which identifies closer to a man but does not fully identify as a man
I'm sorry you need to face all that just bcs you want to be yourself. Living in Malaysia as LGBTQ+ community can be really hard. I'm non-binary btw :)
sya leo :)
Living in Malaysia as someone part of the LGBTQ+ community is hard. I understand how hard it is and I hope things get better for you soon.
I can totally relate to this. School was the place that you get the first blows of mistreatment. Sad phase of life.
Singapore always a western/white ppl wannabe but when it comes to cultural open minded or LGBT acceptance or tolerance for diversity, it keep Asian-mindset kinda conservative instead of completely following Western footsteps
it’s even ironic when SG is the fastest changing city in the world, that things progress quickly from time to time, the elderly should’ve learn to accept the reality that society changed, and everyone can be anyone nowadays
YES
Wts? This literally shyt comes from america. Google where the 3 major mega church founders get ordained/studied. Also, focus on family. Look up where all those kpkb comes from.
West is NOT LGBT frdly,only some in the eu.
@@staninsertkpopgroup1181 will never happen
Thank you for this video. I had an easy time in the Singaporean education system, I had no idea what struggles other people are facing. Videos like these are quite eye-opening, thank you.
Sadly until SG remove the gay law that they said "they don't really enforce it anyway" it will be all round difficulties for everyone in terms of marriage, house applications and schools. As a girl i never liked wearing our school skirts in school, like why the hell must i wear it, i had to end up wearing another shorts inside to avoid getting harassed and skirts is rather inconvenient all in all. And the reasoning i get is coz i'm a girl, and i'm like... So? Its just so medieval to force people to be someone or something just because its the norm.
??? I was supporting you until you got to the complaining about the skirt part, it's a uniform. What did you expect?
Thank you to Vice Asia for featuring us - and for the words of Chris, Kaeden, and June!
Likewise, for LGBTQIA+ people in the comments and who have watched the film, let this be known that solidarity among our communities here can be possible, and that there is still (ground)work to be done on multiple fronts. Sending lots of love ❤️
Lies all of it
I am not a trance person .. but I am tomboyish girl . I was the only girl who used to wear pants and shirt since young nursery classes . My principal supported my decision my teachers supported my choice of school uniform .. you know what my principal said to my parents , they said that " the school dress code doesn't matter , it's the education that matters . "
I was very young but I still remember those words till this date i didn't know how meaningful it was I was just happy that they were letting me choose what I wanted to wear .. now I feel how nice principal and how nice teachers I was blessed with .. those pants made me feel more comfortable I am not that tomboish now now but I still feel blessed to have such nice people in my life ........ . I am from India
I really don't understand why trans people are treated like that it doesn't make any sense .. they are people too may be a bit different but that's variety it's their uniqueness let them live their life their choice they deserve their happiness .. love and hugs 😘😘😘
trans*
Wow ur school and pricipal is so excellent
Your school is in India? Wow
@@NobitaSwag yes my school in India ..that too in a conservative people's state .. still my school principal and teacher were not conservative .. I feel blessed to have them .
Why u no like trance music?
I meet few people and they are trans ,i don't care .i see them like i see other human being.even gay/ lesbian.i don't understant why they judge people like them ,is their live ,just leave them if you don't like .
@@Noname-kp7cs none of them are asking for your support ,the least those who don't support the LGBTQ+ should at least respect them as a person .
@@Noname-kp7cs supporting & respect are two different things . and yeah ,if a trans person becomes our president ,then so be it ,they are human as well ,why do you make it sound like they aren't ?
Heyo, to all the trans folks scrolling through the comments: i know that there's many people who oppose you, who try to tear you down, who try to justify your erasure from society. It's hard, and sg is far from becoming a progressive country anytime soon; but change, although slow, is happening, and perhaps one day we can live in a country that lives up to its national pledge: a democratic society, based on justice and equality. For now, it will be painful, but I assure you that you are stronger than any of these people here. No matter what, these people have no right to dictate the way you live, the gender you identify as, or the people you love. You are you, and no one can change that :)
From a fellow member of the lgbtqia+ to another
Nobody should be denied of God's love even if they are trans. Jesus loves the trans eventhough I'm not a trans. I'm a pastor and the transgender plp are welcomed to our church in malaysia.
@@wetheboms I think stating this clearly shows that you have no idea what transgender is. The bible verse you stated is regarding cross-dressing, a man dressed as a woman or vice versa. Being trans is NOT cross dressing. It is embodying a gender that DOES NOT align with the one that was given at birth. The pastor who you replied to above did not state quote the bible. I am not a trans nor member of the LGBTQ but i get my facts straight before condemning others.
Never understand the need to get involved with someone's gender identity or sexual orientation.
If someone wants to be trans, and their family and friends are ok with it, why does the school have
a say in it? And if what they are doing isn't affecting you personally, why be negative about it?
Its sus as hell when people react so negatively about these things.
Exactly! Being trans or gay or something doesnt affect their ability to learn, it doesnt harm anyone else. But being transphobic will affect their ability to learn and will hurt them
@@elliaustr017 exactly! I find it so weird why can't people just let others love who they want or be who they want. There's always that extra person or group who likes to stick their head into something that doesn't affect them.
they do kinda b projecting their own insecurities doe
Ye! Although it's not that they 'want' to be trans. They just are. :>
@@sharlynlorelle3836 "wants to be trans?"
Singaporeans or rather a lot of the older ones are xenophobic. It might sound obnoxious but I’d really love to see how the world will change once all of them are gone.
I heard from a friend that her mother was texting all her friends to vote against the gay marriage law (I can’t remember the number) but it’s things like this that just put me off. Why can’t we just let people be. Jesus....
No one is xenophobic. We just believe in science. The word marriage means between a man and a woman.
Just like the word water means H2O.
Anything else needs help and love. Many stories of successful people that are able to return back to their gender by birth. All other genders are social construct.
@@Papsmeartopreventcancer “all other genders are social construct” bro the idea of Gender is a social construct literally google it
Boomers am I right?
@@Papsmeartopreventcancer Read the replies. I don’t want to say anything rude.
@@Goofygoobn - it doesn’t make your opinion right. Truth is not measured by agreement of the majority.
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June Chua reminds me of my childhood friend. She is malay born male body who eventually becomes a women. She works in retail line as a very successful sale manager.
I hope everyone deserves due respect and are given a chance to live normally in the gender they prefer.
i would like to say KAEDEN THAT SHIRT YES SARAHTHURSDAY
Fuck yeah
great video explaining how unheard trans students are by the majority and the impact on their education. thanks @vice for shining a light on this topic!
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Super thankful for this!!! I feel like upper tertiary education settings might be more accepting than earlier educational settings. Ironically, transgender students would need the most support at a younger age when they are still figuring themselves out. More should be done to prepare teachers of primary and secondary schools to support and cater to transgender students more!
So glad this issue is getting a spotlight on the global stage. Here's hoping that Singapore will finally open her mind and heart to EVERY citizen in the near future
You must understand, Singapore is a conservative society. Regardless of who much you advocate we have to cater to the different races and religions here in Singapore especially the original inhabitants the Malay Muslim community that we must respect because Singapore has a Mufti working with the government.
Never gonna happen
No Muslim country will allow flith
Wish that how the world was
But soon very soon
Issue how? It is everyone right to like or dislike anyone for whatever reasons.
I remembered my teachers being openly transphobic and homophobic in classes. Bullies can be teachers too.
My teacher got irritated with me for trying to call out the bully and "creating a scene" instead of dealing with the bully/ies.
I remember this topic in JC GP and basically SG govt is yet to be ready to accept trans. Their mindset to these students in sec sch are that they are not mature enough and may have been just 'trying to be trans' due to social media etc... There are so many teachers who are older and they are yet to be ready to accept this mindset resulting in these behaviour. For any change to be done in schools, it need to start from the govt cause honestly SG govt is still very conservative about these issues.
To be honest, this is quite sad. From what I know, my schoolmates.(mostly but not all), are quite open to LGBT. We do not really insult people who are part LGBT... we either don't care or support it. Nobody really cares what sexuality you are and like we respect your pronouns and this is sad to hear that people and students are experiencing that elsewhere. I am not saying everything in my school accepts...there are some people that don't and are kinda homophobic/transphobic but yeah I think nowadays the students (younger generations are more accepting compared to older generations based on how they grew up. I hope everything will better!
I think it's a heng-suay kind of thing. In my sec sch (a long time ago, before it's normalized on the internet) there was a "butch", they played basketball with the boys daily wearing the school skirt+under shorts, they had a lot of friends; no one blinked twice. Years later I saw him on FB he did ftm transition after all; was happy for them. Then in my poly there was a mtf (haven't transitioned) but hung out with the girls, girls treated her like one of their own, everyone was chill with them. In uni in my course there was also a mtf (transitioned). Also hung out with the girls, went to the girl's toilet, and no one really cared. I point this out because this uni one was like 177cm tall with a deep voice so everyone could tell they're trans instantly but no one bullied or made fun of them. I'm sorry these ppl had a hard time growing up. Wish you all could've had a different sch/kids around you, it would've been so different. :(
If you think there are alot of ignorant and disrespectful comments, the replies to comments are even worse. These people are strangers to you. If they and their choice aren't hurting people, then please respect it. Keep the hurtful remarks to yourself when you look in the mirror
They are hurting themselves because when these people find out there dream of changing genders can't be real. They kill themselves.
Whoever is reading this. Please refrain from bullying trans people and also do your best to stick up for them.
I will
No
No
ngl kaeden is really pretty. like his accessories are really nice
discrimination without consequence to the offender is the biggest problem
To me I’m Christian I’m fine with the 🏳️🌈 I can’t hate them it not right because this is who they and it their own chooses they are happy with it let them be and still Jesus tell us not to hate anyone no matter who they are
Exactly
"Their own choices?" How can you support a religion that is also anti lgbt?
@@Noa...... dont tell people what jesus said if ur not christian 💀💀
@@bogdang2250 I don't have to be. I was in the very same cult who was homophobic. Can you say christianity is anti-lght or lgbt friendly based on that bible??
hello Kaeden, I'm someone you knew back in primary school, when you were still called a****y (i'm not sure if you'd like me to reveal it so i'll censor it). I remember one specific incident when we were leaving school together and I said "bye dude!" and you told me to not call you that. I think that that moment was very important for me to realize that everyone is different in their own way. Admittedly, I was still confused back then but I remember you telling me that you'd like to go trans but you were still too young. I'm really glad to know that you have not been crushed by societal norms and continued being you. :)
Thank you for censoring my dead name. Were you my classmate?
@@frankaenstein nope, but we we talked quite a bit? Honestly thinking about, I can't seem to remember how we knew each other haha. I'm actually pretty curious, how did vice contact you for this video ?
It's really reassuring as a non binary person to hear ppl supporting more nowadays. But it does really suck that many still discriminate and even within my own sec school. Even sexuality ed only involved 'Heterosexual', 'Bisexual' and Gay. Nothing about other genders than 'Girl' or 'Boy' Even thinking about wearing boy sch pants appealed to me before
Look likes swiss cottage secondary school
How can a child get an education if the system that was designed to support them discrimates and ostracize them? Hearing the story about the teacher from Kaeden breaks my heart. I hope governments stop legislating identity and give the freedom that the trans community deserves.
Kaeden said at 5:12 -19 “I don’t really come to this neighbourhood often”
Then at 5:30-36 : “ I have been back here quite a few times since I left “
????
Isn’t that contradicting himself?
Gay people cant think straight
@@nottellingyoumyname8838 that is not a nice thing to say. lol
@@spiderjump Technically... Gay people "can't think straight" cause they aren't straight-
This is a very common joke, but I don't know if the guy meant to offend gay people
@@spiderjump but it was pretty funny.
I left quite a while ago but I’ve been back a couple times. When I said that I don’t go there often I mean that I probably go there once every couple months
The like to dislike ratio is just disappointing
its absolutely justified
@@miliba nah
What they hate more than a tran person on the other half of the world is in fact, themselves.
Finding things to keep hating on daily just to feel something. Just to have that attention.
@@miliba shut up
It could be the fact that many Singaporeans are in fact, NOT transphobic, and this video doesn't project people in the right light.
I say this should be passed on in schools so they should be educated ..
That teacher that harassed Kaedan was no TEACHER. She was a bully, plain and simple. MOE needs to retrain teachers. There are and there will always have LGBT+ students.
thank you for covering this. non binary singaporean here
as a trans bruneian (worse situation really), y'all singaporeans have my support
@@JustAlice_Mai damn im sorry for the levels of discrimination ur gg through, please stay tough
ayee
Bisexual questioning Singaporean here!
@@smilefenn4813 thanks
The PragerU commercial in the middle of this was... fun.
Lol... stop watching their videos then, the ads will stop.
🙌👏for both trans female to male is not easy and by embark on this trans road is very brave, they despite the social normal or acceptance they just do what they like rather to blend in, it would be so much easier to dress like girl but both brave person just be truth to themselves, I was not as brave, I am more of tomboy and I wanted to be boy since young but now I am and still trying to accept myself as there is always female and male side of one person and this make each individuals unique in a way and no one person are the same, I have only upmost respects for trans people, as they need to be medicated forever in their life and you need to have certain guts to gone through the surgery
Woo kaeden my man, only the best memes
😎😎 hell yeah
WALAO AH GUA DISGUSTING SIA
@@frankaenstein Yo man you’re so eloquent! Thanks for being part of this video 🥺 ps your dp is chef’s kiss. All the best for everything that’s to come :)
@@hypothesised4453 thank you!
@@frankaenstein holy shit thats u?
I had couple friends in secondary school who was trans. It was sad to see teachers keep misgendering. But also i didnt like him, he was annoying and keep copying my homework. T.T
trans not trans whatever the pronouns are, they are just words. they dont define us. our actions defines us. i really hope one day society learns to respect everyone. why not start by seeing everyone as humans bc i dont see a difference!!
Im sorry that ignorant people wont let you be
Even in a country as great as Singapore where races can coexist, descrimination can happen in other ways
damn didnt expect this to go to vice
Im a trans person who was kicked out of school, had abusive parents, failed school, left my home, was homeless, basically life went to shit right after my parents read my personal journal and found out i was trans. As someone who is asian but living in canada, i am curious as to how being lgbq is like in asia.
Generally from my observations, Taiwan seems to be the best place for LGBT individuals to live in based on rights as they even allow same-sex marriage; The rest varies from alright to absolutely awful and I'd say the country that I live in might be one of the worst for trans individuals as even wearing clothes affirming to my gender is criminalized. I'm sorry with what you have to go through btw.
@@JustAlice_Mai you cant even wear gender affirming clothes?! Thats horrible...
@@elliaustr017 It’s just awful, I have plans to escape anyways someday
I don’t understand why the students are required to wear a uniform matching their gender. Like u already hv a uniform isnt that uniform enough? The girls vant wear pants?
its common in Asian school (elementary-high school, 1st to 12th class), especially southeast asia,
male and female students have different uniforms.
male wear pants, and female wear skirts (unless on sports)
Should change to uniform in China, both boys and girls wear pants, seems very comfortable
right. just wear the school colors. thats it. much like nurses.. wear the colors/patterns so we can identify you belong to this institution but otherwise, keep tidy and hygienic and go along with whats best for yourself.
No, obviously that is not uniform enough. You don't call the attire semi-uniform, right? They are called uniform
not sure if ur joking or not lol
@@John_Smith_86
2024 now and they still do NOTHING about it.
Am I the only one who finds the starting background music familiar? Isn't this the background music which Flutter puts in their "Widget of the week" videos?
I think its a free sound from editing apps, i’ve seen different channels use the same jingle from imovie etc
@@jimincalico9017 maybe
Comments on this video are proof of transphobia by themselves. Just let people be like they want to be.
Just dress like a man or a woman , you don't have to go through costly surgery and hormone therapy to end up with genitals that don't look or function like the real thing and physical attributes that make you look like neither man or woman.
@@ItzHoot I think you really don't understand what it means to be trans if these are your views. You should really stop and listen and try to understand why trans people decide to have surgery.
@@nate6045 I have had gay and lesbian friends and family and before the "trans movement" girls would just dress up like men and they would be called dykes ( not always derogatory term ) and men were called cross dressers or drag queens. I really want to be a multimillionaire but just because I feel and identify as one doesn't make it true , also have you seen pictures of the genital mutilation that's going on? it's outrageous and causes many people to commit suicide.
@@ItzHoot many trans people commit suicide because people don't stop making their life harder every chance they get. also not all of them choose to get surgery, but they should be able to decide themselves.
@@oskari3659 look up post gender change suicide rates, people think all there problems are gender related and they change and they realise it wasn't the issue then suicide. facts don't lie.
You can tell the singaporean transphobes have come to dislike the video fortunately they can only click it once
why did the first conversation looks so awkward
singapore media lmao
No social interactions are perfect anyways
To 99% of the people commenting:
If you haven't a read a scholarly article on gender dysphoria, don't undermine it. Its real, competent healthcare professionals agree its real, don't foster hollow hatred against anyone that's different.
As a biology student, I completely agree with you
Of course is unacceptable,,imagine someone like kaeden in school..teachers busy looking for him..but he was stuck in toilet with bottom body busy examined n abused by male classmates daily throughout the school years..
Honestly kaeden looks better than me in uniform
I love this. Other documentaries of trans folks in asia are always focused on transwomen and then confusing crossdressing. This really shows how it is to live as a trans youth in school.
Singapore is still so freaking conservative, people need to just be open about it. If straight and heterosexuals can be themselves, why cant the LGBTs be like that too? I live in the north of Singapore and i always see a gay couple holding hands, i like how they just do it openly. Although i dont see people starring or pinpointing, i know it might happen behind closed doors.
Oh my god Christopher Khor used to go to my dad’s church (I’m not Christian anymore)! I don’t know if you’ll see this but my dad is Pastor Andrew.
Anyways, I have mad respect for you. Thank you for speaking-up on these issues. It seriously ticks me off how our country treats our people. It was actually one of your family members who made me really question whether or not homosexuality is wrong in the first place and I eventually came to the conclusion that it isn’t and that led to many other personal revelations haha. Once again, thank you so much Christopher and congratulations for getting the chance to do this!
Also as a side note, there is one school I know of that actually respects the gender identity of their students that teaches at the secondary level and that’s The School of The Arts (SOTA).
So you are the son of a Pastor... I hope he he learned his lesson and doesn't still go around condemning LGBT... Many Homophobic people ends up having gay children it seem. My Neighbor use to be very sarcastic and bitchy to my mother about me not being married and all, which made my poor mother very upset..... Than her daughter turned out to be a lesbian. Maybe there is a God after all.
damn i wish i went SOTA sia
im so happy that there are alot of people sharing their stories and support ❤️ but the transphobic comments here make me want to scream in frustration
If you are employed by an airline as a steward can you turn up for work in a stewardess uniform? Some people dress stupid to solicit attention then claim discrimination.
gendered uniforms are redundant to begin with, and either way whichever uniform someone chooses to wear isn't indicative of whether they're good at their job... which should be the main focus anyway. if one uniform is more comfortable to someone over another option, and helps them gain confidence at work, why is this your issue?
❤️ True
@@eiliso.8991 You run an airline?
@@NewmaticKe i just don't judge people based on how they present themselves.
In school, a uniform is something made to prevent students from discriminating each other on their social class/appearance. The teachers are making the uniform redundant.
Not all teachers are like that. Once 2 of my female classmates in relationship submitted a joint art project. A kid shouted disparaging remarks. My tcher was shocked but she immediately said we shud respect everyone! And thats in a Sg public school.
I don’t understand how can a sec school teacher treat Kaeden like that. It’s unacceptable!
Some people never have any hair let alone a bad haircut, and i have been told by those who know, it can be, and often is much more problematic than that, as bad as a lesser hairdo sounds to some possibly self privileged people.
it’s everywhere allegedly our assistant superintendent of tembusu home at pelangi village buangkok is also one 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@14:45 "...to be a truly inclusive society.."
See, there is your problem right there. You actually thought Singapore is an inclusive society....
We are one of the most inclusive societies in Asia and in the world. If you’ve travelled you would realise that we are.
There are issues and no country is perfect, but to criticise a country like Singapore in such a manner, despite our high level of tolerance and acceptance and say “you actually thought Singapore is an inclusive society” is unjustified and shows a level of ignorance. Other countries have it a lot worse and Singaporeans are honestly so lucky to live in a place where discrimination here pretty much ends with words. We need to do better and any discrimination is wrong and disgusting, but appreciate what you have. Have a good day
@@nixkle Agreed
In Singapore, whether you support or oppose the trans community is determined by who you've met in the transgender community and your experience because of who you are. (Let me oversimplify with 3 types)
No.1: The very talented one
If the transgender person is talented and have many skills under his/her belt, you'll have the thought, "WOW!! Trans people are just like us, the laws here are seriously unjust. How can we discriminate someone based on their identity? Aren't we supposed to be a meritocratic society?"
No.2: The always kenna bullied one
Transgender people faced bullying and deadnaming in school... If you are from my school, it's a literal WWE match everyday. There's a saying from my seniors from my school:
If you were insulted, it's a good day.
If you were beaten, it's an average day.
If you were caught, it's a bad day.
There was so much bullying in school that the discipline master couldn't deal with everything, so I literally have to learn how to brawl and beat someone till they ended up in hospital. I hope no one in any community face this kind of bullying.
No.3: The flamboyant one
Since we are on the topic of schools, I believe that the school is not your runway, nor is it the place you find your sexuality, it is the place, you study and learn. The whole point of a uniform is to enforce conformity in schools to give the "impression" of equality, as it equality in misery.
The part in this video that turns me off is the part where June was asked if she was affected by school bullying and she replied, "I wasn't, I don't see it as bullying, I see them as teasing, I see it as giving me attention, I love it." I understand it is meant to be "when life gives you lemons, make lemonades" type of situation. But some wouldn't see it that way, especially if they've been victims of unwanted attention.
If you met the 1st type, you will support trans rights
If you met the 2nd type, it's a flip coin chance you support/oppose trans rights
If you met the 3rd type, you will oppose trans rights
In case you want to add a comment, "Well, those types of people exist in every community..." Hear me out... Are transgender people a tiny minority in Singapore? Yes. What are the chances of you interacting with the transgender community outside of Pink Dot? Very low. As a rule, the less interaction, the more you stereotype. Hence, the impact of one bad apple can really change your views of the community as a whole.
Insecure people blaming their personal problems on others 😑
I’m so confused??? How does Kaeden have a deep voice? Is it possible in Singapore to go on T as a minor?
I'm a Bisexual girl and I live in Singapore. I'm 13 years old. My entire family is homophobic, but I still love them even though they are really against it. I'm in secondary two now, and the people in my secondary school are accepting of the LGBTQ+ community, lucky for me. I'm still having trouble accepting who I am. I sometimes use They/Them pronouns and I identify mostly as female. The teachers in my secondary school don't know about me being Bisexual but the students here are pretty supportive of the LGBTQ+ community. I came out to most of the people in my class and they are okay with it. (I still haven't come out to my family btw-) I am questioning my gender and still trying to decide on who I am. I hope one day, people can be more accepting of the LGBTQ+ community and realise that everyone is human. Yes, I am Christian, but I believe God loves all of us. No matter whether we are part of the LGBTQ+ community or not. Whoever reads this comment, Thanks for hearing my story. Stay safe!
U are confused, go get help.
Oh boy..gen Z is a fucked
@@heiwa8697 I mean, you aren't wrong- being judged by society's standards is tough work. especially being judged by you. everyone is different, you just need to accept it. I respect your opinion.
@@IceBloodKing Uhm, yea, I guess you could say I'm "sick" for not being "straight" or "normal", but everyone is different! and I respect your opinion.
I'm in sec 1 and bisexual, as well living with parents that don't support lgbt+ people. It's pretty cool that you could come out to some of the people in your class because I couldn't even tell my best friends :,) Also don't listen to the comments -they're probably misinformed or something. We should be ourselves even though some may think it's a bit different or odd, as long as it doesn't hurt others 🏳️🌈
hahaha this is true... I'm from Singapore If you say you hate the skirt... they won't let you........ the will just say 'ewww you're suppose to wear skirts not pants"
as a trans ftm in singapore because this is honestly very accurate as my time in singapore
I think most of the dislikes are for this ultra trash blur effect here 5:14 😂
omg I didn't even notice how jarring it is
I am part of the next generation and I hope we can help Singapore a more inclusive place where everyone is accepted
I feel so happy for the fact that Kaeden was so brave to come out and be who he wants especially in Singapore , as a Demi-boy and a bisexual who is a AFAB and most people in my school are homophobic because it hard to let my Teachers and friends know my preferred name and pronouns kinda like how trans people would feel.
the fact is most people don't give a fuck about what your sexuality is so yea stop being that entitled and expect everyone to learn from you. Most people just wanna live their lifes
Was it necessary to film near the school? Be it in any school, the same shit will happen. Yes things have to change but there's always 2 sides of the story. Try to understand both parties. The school is just following "protocol".
Teacher and education administrators MUST be taught how negative comments and behavior towards Trans-Bi and Gay students have major impact upon their self worth. My 8th grade teacher, Mr Bradley shaped my entire prospective about being Black male in American society. I, to this day, thank God he was there being understanding and supportive every Student in his classes.
remember; this is human rights.
trans rights are human rights
Singapore has so much to offer - if they can just get over this hurdle - prejudice against LGBTQ they can be a shining light for the region.
oo swiss cottage gg
It would help if the ministry of education has a gender policy to be followed by all schools.
kaeden is good looking ....
Indeed
I feel like no significant change is going to be happening any time soon cuz of the birth rate issue in Singapore. Singapore wants more babies and trans people are kinda going against that cuz trans people can’t really make babies
My school has trans ppl and its honestly rlly sad to see them being identified as female/male bcz they're afraid that teachers may discriminate them
how she steal his pants bro now that one i never hear before omg
my sch if u taper pants until like so damn obv they'll jus confiscate and throw
They made me change into the school skirt
during pe then she take probz