Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson react to Tua Tagovailoa not yet considering retirement | Nightcap
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss Tua's difficult decision ahead of meeting with neurologists and how tough it is to leave the game you love. Later, they break down the 49ers and Chiefs injury concerns.
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Tua is tryna break ABs CTE speedrun record
Boi joining ctespn soon
@@Sbinnnalayooooo 😭😭😭😭
Ik they say AB was super chill but it’s hard for me to believe a receiver wasn’t secretly a diva at heart. If Tua starts acting like AB then I will have really seen a man become the joker after one (multiple) bad day (repeated head trauma)
I give Tua 2 years max before he retires.
Lol 😂
The problem is he looks great today but it’s when he’s 60 and he doesn’t understand anything anymore. It’s not about today.
TBH I think that's generous. The way he's going, it could be in his early 40s that the effects could manifest.
He’s not playing well and is going full KO on moderate self inflicted hits.
@@alex1vid Saw it with Seau, with several others as well.
He's livin for today & making money now so his family will be set 4life, thats his MO
That his choice it's his life strangers who will never meet him opinions means less then nothing to that man Lol
If anybody needs to be wearing that helmet cap, it needs to be this guy if he’s not gonna retire
I whole heartily agree with you on this one.
Agreed! Should be a mandatory for him!
Wouldn’t change much in his case, its the whiplash.
@@marcbabineau6001 didn’t say it would, he just need to wear it . Then he’ll see that he needs to retire. Cause it’s gonna happen again
@@marcbabineau6001his choice not yours ...you Wana decide on helmets make it to the NFL yourself
I'm listening to Ocho talk about all the shit Tua went through to get to the NFL and somehow fails to explain how it's worth drooling from your mouth in 5 years.
That's not even a likely outcome. It's it more possible if he plays, sure. That's his risk to assume.
I think you’re overestimating the damage a concussion actually does 😂
Everyone needs to calm Tf down and focus of their own lives
@@unbiasedcritic9714so why aren’t you taking your own advice? Momo
@@unbiasedcritic9714you’re focusing on someone else’s comment which is part of their life bro.
Man I’m disappointed with Tua decision but pray he has a long healthy career
He won't, he's not built for this NFL its to physically for him
@@perryellis1423 most of these players have concussions, Brett farve said he played mostly every game with a concussion , being weak isn't the problem , people's head can only take so much punishment
@@theripper631mf went limp after his head hit a player leg this shit won’t end well
@@theripper631 brother Brett farve never went into a fencing position after hit man
@@marcelstewart9156he got hit in the sweet spot
Ocho be fried behind them shades 🤣
Already knowing lmao
You know those eyes are bloodshot af
@@musume7723😂😂😂
Lmfaooo 😂
Ocho don’t smoke weed
I understand Tua loves football and wants to play, but his quality of life for the rest of his life is more important than football and I’m a Miami Dolphins fan, but this is bigger than football. This is the quality of life issue as a disabled person I know how troubling that can be. Nothing is more important than quality of life
That's your opinion, this is more about Tua's opinion
His life is football, that’s how he views it. It’s his decision at the end of the day, his life, he can live it how he pleases.
@@BadmanMC407 So Tua wants to die if he wants to keep playing in the NFL
It's not only on Tua. Dolphins may decide to get rid a player who is always one hit away from missing 6 to 10 games. Let alone die on them.
@@jeanfourcade people don’t realize when you have a concussion. You’re more likely to have a concussion. And there’s also a thing called second impact syndrome which how bad Tua is having these concussions I would say the possibility of that happening is only increasing.
Tua needs to spend an afternoon with Tony Dorsett. It'd be an eye-opener, to peer into the future.
Stil wudnt retire he a warrior and don't think like you 🤷🏽♂️
@@michaelshelton7196 so andrew luck isn't a warrior because he decided being able to function normally was more important than football, Tua has nothing more to prove, he made it to the NFL, he turned into a good starter, got paid, their isn't anything more to accomplish for him that would be more important than having a functioning brain, this isn't war, its football, a game.
@@ThatMidWestDude513 not at all andrew luck is a G but he retired cause HE wanted to not cause some rando stranger thought he shud Lol
..and again YOU sayin he had nothing else to prove is irrelevant dude never even won a playoff game his opinion of wut he wants to accomplish is almost certainly diff then your low standards it's NOT just a "game" to him he worked his life to make it to were he at you keep tryna impose your soft ass expectations on to a guy you never met and doesn't know your alive Lmaooo it's ridiculous worry about your own life and let tua live his how he sees fit it's Simple
@@ThatMidWestDude513Beyond laughable how people are so enslaved mentally by the entertainment industry
Why you making decisions for him
I appreciate how real and empathic ocho is man. It’s nice to see folks who feel enough empathy to cry for others struggle
That's 3rd in the NFL....he's probably had multiple through high school and college. You don't just go stiff that easily everytime you take a hit.
4 we know of
NFL doesn't care about players
You dont know what he has had. Hes a grown man, fighters have multiple concussions a year for a lot less money. People are just panicking because of the fencing response which has nothing to do with the severity of a concussion. Everyone reacts different.
Bro remember he had 2 in two weeks in 22 he got rocked and concussed during the Bills game and they called it a back injury. Then the next week he was concussed again by the Bengals. This guy's averaging a concussion a season
@@creaturecore13Lmao those fighters get FUCKED up too. So much evidence suggests it's in his best interest to leave smh it's just a game
usually it's head to head, shoulder to head, or a knee or thigh to the head but a bicep to the head knocking you out is crazy.. In All the years of playing and watching the sport I've never seen that
Pride is a helluva drug and Tua is addicted.
He’s not going to learn until it’s too late
His life his decision
This show is amazing. These two together are the best thing on tv
I like Shannon’s podcast but I really enjoy nightcap with Ocho
Ocho makes the show
The entire NFL needs to step in NOW. Tua has the heart and desire of a lion. We love him. We respect him. We know he has nothing to prove. We know he loves football. We don't want to see Tua die on the field...money can be made back not life.
It's nobody decision but his end of the day
@@michaelshelton7196right, he not doing it for money..he got his payday, he just wants to keep doing what he loves to do. As bad as it would be to see him take another big hit, it’s his risk to take
@@dantecampbell3071 absolutely
No they dont. A guy literally died on the field 2 years ago. You still watched. The nfl moved on and the kid is playing again.
@@michaelshelton7196 Yes and no. NHL guys are kinda "forced retired" because nobody will sign them if a player has had 3+ concussions these days, especially average 1 per year. Hockey had concussion protocol WAY before the NFL. Guys like Eric Lindros unfortunately paved the way with their blood.
212.4 million contract extension with a 53 million per season. He's ain't leaving that.
Can't take money with u, if you're dead. When you're dead, u have no choice. U come into this world with nothing & leave with nothing; Absolutely nothing.
@@terrify2745 building a pyramid for the afterlife; Tua is going to take the gamble.
can't enjoy it if you can't remember what happened five minutes ago.
167 guaranteed right ?
@@1kbo972yep and about 75 at signing
It’s sad. Tua doesn’t want to face his mortality. A lot of the people around him, agents and teams, only caring about what he can do for them.
Na.....a hard head make a soft ahh every time
He a grown man, you can only ask someone to do so much
You have no idea wut they are telling him stop the 🧢
Demar hamlin died on teh field 2 years ago. No one cared. Everyone kept watching. Hes gonna play and hes the only one who will deal w the consequences
“They don’t come in from the back no more” is crazy🤣😭
Brian Flores wasn’t wrong dude is fragile they’d be way better with HairBear
Who Caleb Williams or The Prince
Brain Flores knew he wasn't it but now he's a villian. No one talks about how tua coughed up 3 ints before the concussion..
Brian Flores is vindicated 😂
He was a bad coach
@@Hiphop_LoveI’m not sure the 49’ers agree …
“The money is in the treatment/research” is the realest thing that’s ever been said on this show.
Sterling Sharpe should be in the HOF!!!
Agreed
If Terrell Davis is, he should be.
If Kurt Warner is, he should be.
Sterling Sharpe was that dude!!!😮😮😮
Biggest damn robbery ever. Put his top 5 seasons against anyone. He’s a top 10 receiver all time easy
@@jordanleafloor862first 7. He was on par with Jerry rice
Tua going to be drinking out a straw if they don’t make him retire . If I was the general manager, I will make him wear a guardians cap
just putting that cap on his helmet would put Tua into the fencing pose at this point.
No, let’s hope it doesn’t have drink from a straw
Which is why your totally unqualified for the job Lol
Oh no!! Drinking from a straw! Lol. Jkjk😅
Tua we want you to play the game you love but this time be careful fans ❤❤❤❤
He has no control over that tho tbh. No matter how good your offensive line is, at some point a sack or two will trickle through and when it does. Man it's not going to be good
You want him to throw another 3 picks?
I just worry about him being injured and end up being in a vegetative state. He's young and has his family to think about.
All it takes is one tackle man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson for the NFL Hall of Fame! Canton, Ohio Baby! Canton! Damn, I love this show.
I like how y’all talked about the money ain’t in the cure it’s in the treatment no many said 💯💯💯
Abuse is okay as long as it’s self inflicted right?
It's not abuse it's a game he chose to play just cause you soft and dnt understand don't mean he shud quit
@@michaelshelton7196 yea ok 😂😂 I don’t take anyone serious who’s scared to have a profile pic on RUclips 😂 I played the sport dumb dumb 😂 so genius… what is abuse? And can that definition be applied to the body? O ok! 👌 because the last time I check, the human body is not a battering ram!! Making it MISUSED or abused!! Play wit yo momma 💯💪🏼✌🏼
Yes
Your body your choice
@@DisManGotKix think so?
Tua needs to get his priorities in order and the dolphins should trade for Bryce young you heard it here first
It is not for you to say what his priorities are. That’s the point people are forgetting. It’s his career and choice.
Let him be
Was not the first ive heard that for either take.
The trouble with priorities is its different for everyone. Most people can't stop drinking even if it's "not a problem". Different strokes
@@MiserableRacer I never said what his priorities should be all I said was he needs to get them in order whatever choices he makes is on him.
😂😂😂 even if Tua retires, they better off just drafting another QB
People have been calling for Bryce since yesterday. Pretty sure you know that. People have been saying that about Tua since 2022. You're late to the party.
It's amazing that after these guys sign a big contract, they get hurt. Mccrafey is the 49ers recently signed and he's hurt.
Cmac been getting hurt
Pockets got too much money
So is DEEBO😢
You're cherry picking. There are plenty of guys injured without a contract or without a big contract. There has been A LOT of injuries already this year just flat out, not only big contracts.
Tua coming back is not fair to the opposing defense. Who wants to hit Tua and possibly cause him to be paralyzed or a vegetable?
I think there are plenty of people who wouldn't give two shits. Now they'll act like they care in front of the camera, but once the game is live, it's go time, and everyone knew the risks.
Good point & have to live with that for the rest of their life.
It’s his choice. Football is unforgiving. If he plays, defenses should try to smoke him like they do everybody.
The players on the defense Lol they it soft and feel mercy like civilians they warriors and will light him up without remorse 🤷🏽♂️
Nobody thinking bout that. If he dumb enough to come back and play he dumb enough to get laid out. He made that decision himself
Ocho has gotten better and better every day his been studying for sure.❤.
Agreed . Big improvement
I don’t want him to become another CTE Junior Seau 😢
Don't watch
Why is this even a question? Sometimes the organization needs to step in and do what is best for the health of that player. Pat Riley and the Miami Heat blocked Chris Bosh from playing again due to his medical condition. Bosh is HEALTHY today, living well and enjoying time with his family and friends. C’mon folks, this ain’t about be brave or ego. It’s about living HEALTHY when all is said and done.
Its hard to leave your passion but when its living or dying its different
Unc just so you know this time rigor mortis is not what happened to tua. It happens when you die. Look up terms before you use them
He don't have to his show successful and he winning Lol dnt watch n go read a dictionary Lmaooo
I mean it’s technically Spasticity, but it the same thing as rigor mortis without the death 😂
Everyone's way too hyper sensitive to this, relax how Tua handles his life is no one's business
Brian Flores was right, he is actually a great coach. He is an asshole but he is a great coach. He wanted to draft the correct QB who is playing for the chargers instead of us and now Tua is a great passer who gets knocked out easily. He is glass Joe from punch out.
He actually wanted Jordan Love but I agree with you
Brian Flores enjoying his drink right now with I told ya so
I agree with you. And Flores is old school and tough minded; we need more tough minded and old school than the soft new school
Herbert is still a fraud. Just because their opponents were the worst team in the league and a Raiders team that only played 20 minutes in Week 1 does not mean he is any less of a fraud.
@@TheEsquireOfSportsFSU I hear you but at least he isn't getting knocked out by routine hits and imagine Herbert waddle and Tyreek. That would be insane.
Huntley def needs a shot. He played really good when Lamar was out last year.
I dont wanna be like Drago in Rocky but hang it up Tua. At least you got your guaranteed money . No one will hate you for doing the right thing
Tua will suffer another concussion if he continues to play. It's his decision to not retire and to experience the potential devastating effects of CTE.
When you start getting concussions, it makes it easier to get the next concussion. Its like your brain just starts giving up and resets with less and less contact. Served with many TBI’s, my mom has one, and I’ve suffered 3 concussions. Its real.
If Tua really comes back, thats like He himself signs a bounty for his career 😅 thats dangerous
He’s in the denial stage. Acceptance will come soon if he’s smart
Tua is gonna be the new antino brown
Teddy Bruski had a hole in his freaking heart
That heart murmur?
Huntley is a sparkplug. The guy is capable and able to play very well when given the chance.
As a ravens fan, he’s not going to WOW you but he’s gonna keep fans engaged and get you to the wild card. More than most teams can ask for 🤷🏾♂️
Tua bad for business for the NFL when it comes on to concussions. That play was a regular football play and he was out fencing and all . Obviously he still wants to play and the dolphins just paid him so they want him out there. Can you imagine a blindside hit on Tua 😳. That shit might kill him. So all that he’s gonna see a neurologist don’t mean shit cause he’s gonna see one that’s gonna tell him what he wants to hear
If "If he dies... he dies" was a real person
When i seen that play my first thought was, why didnt he slide? They teach QB's to slide. He needs to put his health first, even while playing.
Shoutout to the great Athletic Trainers out there keeping athletes healthy
if miami are basically out of contention by the time he’s cleared, he should sit out the season
I agree with Chad. Tyler is a good fit.
Tua didn’t get hit hard , Hamlin just stood there and Tua hit him
"they come in from the front, they don't come in from the back anymore" - pause.
I understand the drive and so many players have an epic comeback story but on the flip side it's also be devastating. I hope he's well and whatever the decision it's his.
I understand it’s hard giving up something you’ve strives for your whole life but surely as someone who’s got kids. Being there for them is more important than playing in the NFL.
There comes a point where you’re not earning respect or being tough anymore, it’s just stupid to keep going. Tua needs to hang it up. It’s getting painful to watch him rep the set every season.
@@BigHeadProductionCo I mean it’s stupid to play football in general
5:59 Ocho and Shay not being on the same page at all 😂😂😂
Safety 1st homie gone walk away before it’s too late to walk away
tua just dont realise life sucks when you are constantly at battle with your brain
Y'all can critique him all ya'll want but that man got people to take care of and for that he's gonna keep playing
GOD TRYING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING TUA 🙏🏾
I know it's hard to part ways with what Is part of your identity (being a football player) but to keep playing is not fair to yourself and family long term. It's his family, future wife and kids who will have to take care of Tua and deal with the after effects of the head injury. The mental health and neurological effects will definitely take its toll later in life if this continues
In the Tua situation I think we all have opinions but this is ultimately Tua and his family’s decision. If they know the health risks and are okay with playing that’s their choice. If I’m the Dolphins I’m not pushing him one way or the other. If he wants to retire support it. If he doesn’t want to retire and is medically cleared to play by medical experts then support that. The key to it is that it has to be Tua’s decision. He’s a grown man. If he knows the risks and continues to play that’s his business. We talking about what he may or may not be in the future. He plays football! It’s inherently dangerous and people get hurt including concussions. It’s unfortunate but if you know and choose to play all I can do is support a person right to do what they want to do.
How long before it becomes a fatality? How many can he take? This is the direction it could be heading:
@@tiket68 someone’s been watching any given sunday
Tua needs to retire it scares me to see him play now especially after all those concussion
Everyone who ever plays football would tell you , every game mf get into concussion and go back to the field and play. Tua will be alright . We winning it all .
No buddy, that’s not the reality. It’s 2024, let’s act like it. Folks like you want these players to die on the field for the sake of money and entertainment. Foh
We forgetting tua always struggles against playoff teams and how he was playing vs buffalo before the concussion , 3 picks , 1 pick 6
As an epileptic he’s putting his health more and more at risk. Seizures start in the frontal lobes of your brain and because of that, head to head contact only increases his risks. Let it go
Defenses have gotten that much better I think, pass rushers are so much more athletic than offensive tackles
This is where they take that decision making outta his hands, it's nice to play, but imagine being a drooler at 28-30 yrs old for the rest of your life
I hope that he strongly considers retirement, not for the now but for his future.
I think that the NFL needs to step in and do the right thing by him, which means saving him from himself.
Do you all remember Dwain Haskins? Life is here one second and not promised the next. If he wants to retire now that's his choose but, it's not a garantee just because he retires, that he will live until his 60s.
Tua is so young, he needs to realize that football isn’t working and needs to pivot to UFC
Lol wth?
UFC where he can get kicked in the head? Perhaps a non-football playing job within the Dolphins organization.
So did people completely forget about Chris Benoit? Insane
His contract is life changing money for his family. If the NFL forces him out, he will still get the guaranteed money. If he leaves himself he doesn't get the money I would take as much time as it takes to feel comfortable returning. I'd make that sacrifice for my family.
Kuechly, Luck, Aikman, Young to name a few … all had concussion issues. Let the man decide for himself when it’s time. Let him weigh his dreams vs. HIS reality and decide. It’s none of our business.
The level of quarterback play isn’t what it used to be for one, and the play calling across the league has become about efficient low risk plays
Honestly I think this is a huge mistake. I suspect Tua might have a bunch of yes men in his circle looking to get paid, SMH
How many times did Wes Welker have concussions and kept on playing?
Its gonna suck so bad when Tua dies on the field and then the NFL and all the talking heads have to pretend to feel bad and pretend like Tua alone should make this decision. Whenever we honor his life in the future Ill just be shaking my head thinking of Mcdaniels, Goodell, his wife and all the ex-athletes that were okay with him playing again and how they ultimately ended up getting him killed. Once he gets hit again this season or next watch his feet. If they curl up towards his chest then there's a high likelihood that Tua never wakes up or just dies soon after. Fencing pose is a sign that your body is trying to preserve whatever is left after the trauma clears, if you go into fencing pose after hitting a skinny DBs bicep with your head then you are on death's door. Tua is 1-2 head hits from not being a human or being 6 feet under. I no longer pity him but pity us as fans that have to see this idiot kill himself for no good reason at all.
No, it would be no one’s fault. He understands the risk.
@@tajiri7 he does but there's a duty from the NFL's standpoint to say you are literally possibly one hit away from being absolutely destroyed for the rest of your life.
@@Tib1010do you think that he is not given this information? No one is pulling the wool over Tua’s eyes. He knows the risk. He’s an adult and it’s his choice.
@@Tib1010 Same applies to every player in the league, and I’m sure the billion dollar company lets the players higher at risk especially know that.
It makes me laugh when the coach tells the press that Tua is smiling with his teammates, like someone with mental challenges can’t smile. lol.
10-20 years from now tua going to do a interview saying how he didn’t regret retiring early.
Chris Bosh, Calvin Johnson and many other hanged it up.
Tua just needs to be smart if he gonna keep playing. He can’t take off running like he is Cam Newton, he has to protect himself like the Mannings and Brady did.
It's incredibly disgusting how the NFL is gonna allow this man to keep playing. NFL DOES NOT CARE ABOUT PLAYER SAFETY
Player safety is about limiting collisions that cause concussions and correctly following concussion protocol, it is not about making decisions for players who have been cleared to play.
Concussion aren’t the main reason for CTE. It can only make it worse, which is scarier for him. Then again he’s an adult.
Huntley is a great qb! Dual threat that has an arm! Go watch his tape at utah or his snaps with the Ravens! Lots of potential and talent! Give Tua some time to heal and make his decision
I watched footage and am very excited to see him with our offense.
Tua has to think of his long term health and you don’t want another repeat of concussion to happen. Cos next one could personally end Tua career. It’s big decision now to take it out of Tua hands and keep him healthy in retirement
Gonna be sad when this dude gets permanently injured on the field and folks will be calling for the Teams head.
@@Scandal247 he already is permanently injured my guy
@@JakeYake I mean where he is incapable of choosing whether or not he can return.
Ocho looking like Eazy E with that hat and shades on.
You only get 1 go at life, I see both sides. Can’t live in fear of what may come, but you also have to be mindful of the future somehow. I can’t do both so who am I to say lol
Tua is the hero we don’t need. Just retire, already!
On that pick 6 Tua threw trying to go out of bounds, he hit the side of his head falling down
Every player hits their head falling down dude sheesh
@@JakeYake go watch the play, the side of his head slam down as he's falling down. It's also the same side he grabbed after the collision that took him out
@@Jisaacs91 dude that happens pretty much 75% of tackles in the game. Everyone’s concussed, they might just not be knocked out cold.
As a dolphin fan i hope he doesnt die out on the field
If Tua doesn't retire, I'd put money down that when he's in his sixties and doesn't remember his children he'll wish he had retired.
Bro let the man do as he pleases. Some people have a passion they’d die for. Now that’d being said, concussions should probably be season ending for him. One or two more with the fencing position then gotta
His contract has a injury clause if he retires due to injury he gets his money, if he doesnt that contract is cut big time. A doctor would have to sign off hes retiring because of the injuries
Yeah im sure its hard to leave the game but i mean sharp, ocho, youve said it time and time again, its about the money. Man finally got set and this health issue is always gonna he constant. Hes set no ones saying leave football. Find another lane coaching, broadcasting, talking about health. Lots of time and lots of money is available to tua. We all just dont want to see the worst.