think that was the whole point-she was supposed to be classy and the representation of perfect middle class, American dream wife and mother material while beneath it she and her life were all falling apart and classy look was a veneer.
Teri hatcher started of as the main wife but as season 1 progressed it was clear she did not have the acting ability to pull off the main actress and they made her more mediocre and gave her mediocre storylines as the ditsy airhead type . It became clear that marcia cross had the acting chops and was an engaging character and she became the leading housewife and they gave her all the best dramatic storylines. By late season 1/ early season 2 it was clear she was the new lead and i think it's fair to say she maintained that status for the rest of the show.
@@Euroviking86 yea Hatcher was good mainly in the 1st season which is when she win but as the series progressed they kept repeating the same story for her over and over and the critics soon turned on her as an unlikeable character and recycling the mike/susan story turning her character into a 1 trick pony. I can only imagine Hatcher became demoralised and bitter over how she was written and this had something to do with the alleged tension between her and rest because I am thinking Hatcher[being the biggest star pre DH] signed on the promise that she would be the lead of the show and when they demoted her character as the series progressed it caused friction as she wasn't getting the deal she had signed for and was left with egg on her face. The exact same thing happened with Rob Lowe in his comeback in The West Wing except Lowe was candid and addressed it publically after he quit the show-basically he got hired as the lead and then they demoted him which wasn't what he signed up for. Although in fairness I thought Hatcher's character improved in her later years when the writing and direction improved for her and they stopped writing her like a 22 year old and gave her meatier stuff. She was good in season 7 and season 8. Seasons 5 and 6 were written pretty poorly for all the cast as the storylines were all generally poor.
@@shanefolan they made Marcia and Felicity do the dramatic roles, while Eva got the comic relief and later got dramatic from season six onwards. Teri received... well, they just didn't know what to do with her character. The Dave Williams mystery was great but its another season of Susan and Mike's will-they-wont-they. Also notice how Susan is barely involved with the disaster episodes which are the episode where the casts get to show their real acting chops (she was absent during the tornado and plane crash, she just laid down during the riot, waited outside during the market shooting.) I skipped most of her scenes because I got tired of her but she got interesting when she became an art teacher, had financial issues and became a short-lived painter.
thing is though is that being rude/doing the wrong thing does not always come with consequence and people get away with it hence they learn to think their behaviour is acceptable.
@@shanefolan Exactly! Phyllis has behaved like such a spiteful bitch she thinks her behaviour is acceptable look at the nasty grin she gives Bree after saying before college was the happiest time for Rex and the priest will "mention" his family life! That's not a grieving mother that's spiteful point scoring and the fact the Phyllis breaks down crying everytime someone asks Bree how she's doing you can practically sense Phyllis's thirst for attention.
The actor who plays the Rev. was on General Hospital for a few weeks, and he was *incredible* in his role. Some of the most memorable lines I've ever seen on that show in 40 years came from that mouth.
It's clear that Phillis doesn't like Bree. Fair enough. But she's trying to compete with her and in doing so is being outright selfish and not taking into consideration other people's grief. Phillis is wanting to be the center of attention and comes off as inconsiderate and just plain rude and disrespectful.......
season 2 was good. Yea not as good as season 1 but it went in other directions and had its strengths. Seasons 5-6 were the bad seasons but seasons 1-4 were the good years.
@@shanefolan season 2 was all over the place. It wasn’t as solid as the first. It was too many plot lines and not enough character development. Season 3 brought the show back to where it was in the first season to me.
@@tyresmith9833 Which is what I said, it wasn't as good as season 1 but it still wasn't 'bad' per se. Cherry had left the writing team that season which was what fans say caused its decline but certainly Bree's downfall and subsequent spiral into despair amid the falling apart of her family unit in the season was enough to make it a good memorable watch throughout. A huge mistake they made this season which still confuses was hire 1 of tv's strongest actresses, Alfre Woodard as Betty, and then do so little with such a brilliant award winning actress. She could have been utilised so much more in this season and they could have given her much heavier scenes-seems like a very waisted opportunity. Why would they even hire such an acclaimed actress and then hardly use her? I think seasons 5 and 6 is what many fans say were the worst of the series as the writers simply seemed to run out of ideas.
@@shanefolan From what I've seen, Seasons 7 and 8 are widely considered the worst of the series, particularly Season 8. 5 is a bit more polarizing than the earlier seasons though, as some people hated it. Season 6 was a bit similar, but Angie became a fan favorite, especially compared to the mixed reception toward Renee Perry.
@@Joe_Parmesan Season 8 started off very well in fairness but through out its later arc and conclusion it went to shit. The reveal of Orson as the card sender was revealed much too soon when they could have done much more with that imho. I must say I did like Orson getting back at Bree over the cards as she was such a hypocrite sending him to jail and covering for Andrew.
Rex was an incredibly difficult person, the marriage may have been a disaster but she did what she could for about 15 years. Didn't they have 2 adult children ? It would be weird not to focus on that
She was very difficult too remember, she was repressed and a perfectionist remember at the start and cold and unfeeling. People like that can be exhausting and toxic to be around. He had to go elsewhere for sex because she wouldn't give any, not condoning what he did but she was at much as fault[if not possibly more] than him.
@@shanefolan yes but bree became like that gradually it wasn't like she was like that through out her marriage.in the end she did try to change,did everything rex liked , Even forgave his infidelity but still rex believed she could kill him.
@@aryastark111It wasn't him that made her like that though. Well it was never explained why she became like that, regardless her behaviour did not make her faultless in the marriage breakdown. What was sad was that had it not been for George they could have made it.
@@shanefolan I agree it wasn't rex who made bree like that.but he should have told her what he hated ,tried to change her but he went and had affairs.which ruined the marriage.i don't think without George they would have made it.bcoz after everything bree did to save the marriage (it's not easy to forgive infidelity)rex still thought she was capable of murdering him.no matter how eccentric bree was,he shouldn't have thought so low of her.it proves he never understood her.
@@aryastark111 actually no rex and her seemed to be on the mend only George started meddling by murdering rex and lying to Bree in saying that rex had told his colleagues about their sex life which wasn't true,he'd broken into their house. Rex would never have doubted Bree had George not murdered him remember.
@@Joe_Parmesan That and Juanita knew from the start Gaby was having an affair; Gaby had no moral high ground there so it's not like she could put Juanita in her place. But Bree had being the dutiful wife so Phyllis had nothing on her.
Actually she auditioned to be Marie Alice as she didn't want to be one of the leads at first. Marc Cherry asked her to try the part of Bree, he said she was much better than any actresses who prepared for that role.
+Patrick Well as you can see, in the end, Phillis just throws away the notes with a grumpy face. She's not so much grieving as she's craving attention.
@@Widdekuu91 I get the feeling that Phyllis and rex had a very fractured relationship so it diminished her grief-she was angry, bitter and resentful that Bree stole her son away and resentful to Rex for letting it happen and ultimately abandoning her. The truth is that when the living around you have little presence no matter what their relation to you then when they die the grief can be diminished. What I'm saying is that rex had probably been dead to Phyllis for years before his physical death as they'd lost contact. The fact that Phyllis used his death to get attention from others with theatrical over the top public displays of grief and point score against Bree undermined her genuine grief.
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Marcia Cross deserved an Emmy for Seasons 1 and 2. Her acting was superb! The perfect balance of comedy and drama.
She is a Charlotte York and Samantha Jones in one very admirable bitch of a Queen.
I don't know why, but Bree was always the best at slamming her teacup down. You knew she was going to just end you after that.
Yep.. when she puts down the teacup, you know you were going to be served some "tea".. and it would be fresh brewed and piping hot!
Go Bree! Loved how she did not just let this rude person get away with her hurtful words.
She's strong!
@Montana Roots Get a life you just wrote an essay over a fictional character
roman4champ scholars have been doing that for decades 😃
BOTH women were in the wrong... and, frankly, I think chewing out Rex's mother could have been done *without* Bree's extreme measures.
@@daniellevinson6975 the mother in law was clearly out of line
Bree always look classy
think that was the whole point-she was supposed to be classy and the representation of perfect middle class, American dream wife and mother material while beneath it she and her life were all falling apart and classy look was a veneer.
Bree is SAMANTHA JONES AND CHARLOTTE YORK in one woman... perfect.
With also a gun. XD
And Susan and Carrie are the same annoying person. 😂😂😂
Dark Requiem Exactly!
Yes.
Samantha Jones? Nooooooo
I really love Bree, she is the coolest. She deserves a movie, BREE...
Mad Dawn ha ha great idea
Good idea
I would definitely watch that
Bree was really put through the ringer this season, and the first half of the next season. Like seriously can this woman ever catch a break?
Ikr?!
Teri hatcher started of as the main wife but as season 1 progressed it was clear she did not have the acting ability to pull off the main actress and they made her more mediocre and gave her mediocre storylines as the ditsy airhead type . It became clear that marcia cross had the acting chops and was an engaging character and she became the leading housewife and they gave her all the best dramatic storylines. By late season 1/ early season 2 it was clear she was the new lead and i think it's fair to say she maintained that status for the rest of the show.
@@shanefolan And yet she never won either a Golden Globe or Emmy for her performance. That was so dumb.
@@Euroviking86 yea Hatcher was good mainly in the 1st season which is when she win but as the series progressed they kept repeating the same story for her over and over and the critics soon turned on her as an unlikeable character and recycling the mike/susan story turning her character into a 1 trick pony. I can only imagine Hatcher became demoralised and bitter over how she was written and this had something to do with the alleged tension between her and rest because I am thinking Hatcher[being the biggest star pre DH] signed on the promise that she would be the lead of the show and when they demoted her character as the series progressed it caused friction as she wasn't getting the deal she had signed for and was left with egg on her face. The exact same thing happened with Rob Lowe in his comeback in The West Wing except Lowe was candid and addressed it publically after he quit the show-basically he got hired as the lead and then they demoted him which wasn't what he signed up for.
Although in fairness I thought Hatcher's character improved in her later years when the writing and direction improved for her and they stopped writing her like a 22 year old and gave her meatier stuff. She was good in season 7 and season 8. Seasons 5 and 6 were written pretty poorly for all the cast as the storylines were all generally poor.
@@shanefolan they made Marcia and Felicity do the dramatic roles, while Eva got the comic relief and later got dramatic from season six onwards. Teri received... well, they just didn't know what to do with her character. The Dave Williams mystery was great but its another season of Susan and Mike's will-they-wont-they. Also notice how Susan is barely involved with the disaster episodes which are the episode where the casts get to show their real acting chops (she was absent during the tornado and plane crash, she just laid down during the riot, waited outside during the market shooting.) I skipped most of her scenes because I got tired of her but she got interesting when she became an art teacher, had financial issues and became a short-lived painter.
I love how the reverend already saw a storm brewing at 1:29
Bree is so PERFECT, you never grow tired of her....
Reverend just sitting there sipping Tea and watching the Drama unfold ( he’s secretly enjoying it)😭😭😭
Probably his favorite part of the job is the drama!
Phillis HAS to know what she said is rude and it comes with consequences.
thing is though is that being rude/doing the wrong thing does not always come with consequence and people get away with it hence they learn to think their behaviour is acceptable.
@@shanefolan Exactly! Phyllis has behaved like such a spiteful bitch she thinks her behaviour is acceptable look at the nasty grin she gives Bree after saying before college was the happiest time for Rex and the priest will "mention" his family life! That's not a grieving mother that's spiteful point scoring and the fact the Phyllis breaks down crying everytime someone asks Bree how she's doing you can practically sense Phyllis's thirst for attention.
The actor who plays the Rev. was on General Hospital for a few weeks, and he was *incredible* in his role. Some of the most memorable lines I've ever seen on that show in 40 years came from that mouth.
It's clear that Phillis doesn't like Bree. Fair enough. But she's trying to compete with her and in doing so is being outright selfish and not taking into consideration other people's grief.
Phillis is wanting to be the center of attention and comes off as inconsiderate and just plain rude and disrespectful.......
woohooboy Welcome to “Mother-in-law 101”😌
I love how he sips "tea" at the end 😂
Rex's mother was unbearable
All mother-in-laws are, rumor has it.
I would go non denominational so fast it’ll make your head spin!
She has such great lines
Poor priest xD The look on his face when Rex's mother insulted Bree = priceless XD I could literally hear him think to himslef "OH shiiiiiiiiiiiet" xD
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
we might as well focus on the happiest time
if you dont call her on that incredibely insensitive comment i'm gonna lose it
Agree
The Rev. taking another sip of tea at the end of the scene - he's seen this kinda shit before, and he's not sweating it.
Came here after hearing the sad news about Shirley's death. Rest in peace 😔
And then there was the tie scene at church...
Marcia Cross is an amazing actress. Loved her on Melrose Place before this. Love to see her back on our screens here in the UK again on a series
You are no longer invited to the funeral 😁
so typical "in laws"
I’ll go non- denominational so fast it’ll make your head spin.
One of my favourite scenes with Bree. Love her!
''Phyllis is there something you'd like to say?''
I think she's already said it quite clearly ...
Bree remains my favorite character
She's just exceptional 😍😍😍😍
The look Rev. Sykes gives as Bree puts down the teacup is just priceless. That combo is just ace. 1:28
Bree is BOSS!!!
And we don't want bree to lose it. She's a different breed
Even tho season 2 wasn’t good, Marcia Cross owned the season as Bree. She acted her ass off and deserved more recognition.
season 2 was good. Yea not as good as season 1 but it went in other directions and had its strengths. Seasons 5-6 were the bad seasons but seasons 1-4 were the good years.
@@shanefolan season 2 was all over the place. It wasn’t as solid as the first. It was too many plot lines and not enough character development. Season 3 brought the show back to where it was in the first season to me.
@@tyresmith9833 Which is what I said, it wasn't as good as season 1 but it still wasn't 'bad' per se. Cherry had left the writing team that season which was what fans say caused its decline but certainly Bree's downfall and subsequent spiral into despair amid the falling apart of her family unit in the season was enough to make it a good memorable watch throughout.
A huge mistake they made this season which still confuses was hire 1 of tv's strongest actresses, Alfre Woodard as Betty, and then do so little with such a brilliant award winning actress. She could have been utilised so much more in this season and they could have given her much heavier scenes-seems like a very waisted opportunity. Why would they even hire such an acclaimed actress and then hardly use her?
I think seasons 5 and 6 is what many fans say were the worst of the series as the writers simply seemed to run out of ideas.
@@shanefolan From what I've seen, Seasons 7 and 8 are widely considered the worst of the series, particularly Season 8.
5 is a bit more polarizing than the earlier seasons though, as some people hated it. Season 6 was a bit similar, but Angie became a fan favorite, especially compared to the mixed reception toward Renee Perry.
@@Joe_Parmesan Season 8 started off very well in fairness but through out its later arc and conclusion it went to shit. The reveal of Orson as the card sender was revealed much too soon when they could have done much more with that imho. I must say I did like Orson getting back at Bree over the cards as she was such a hypocrite sending him to jail and covering for Andrew.
I simply love her xD My favourite housewife just a little above Gaby :)
Bree didn’t make Rex’s like miserable. Rex was a jerk. So, he had a play in it too.
I miss Bree so much!😭😭😭
Something happened to her??
Rex was an incredibly difficult person, the marriage may have been a disaster but she did what she could for about 15 years. Didn't they have 2 adult children ? It would be weird not to focus on that
She was very difficult too remember, she was repressed and a perfectionist remember at the start and cold and unfeeling. People like that can be exhausting and toxic to be around. He had to go elsewhere for sex because she wouldn't give any, not condoning what he did but she was at much as fault[if not possibly more] than him.
@@shanefolan yes but bree became like that gradually it wasn't like she was like that through out her marriage.in the end she did try to change,did everything rex liked , Even forgave his infidelity but still rex believed she could kill him.
@@aryastark111It wasn't him that made her like that though. Well it was never explained why she became like that, regardless her behaviour did not make her faultless in the marriage breakdown. What was sad was that had it not been for George they could have made it.
@@shanefolan I agree it wasn't rex who made bree like that.but he should have told her what he hated ,tried to change her but he went and had affairs.which ruined the marriage.i don't think without George they would have made it.bcoz after everything bree did to save the marriage (it's not easy to forgive infidelity)rex still thought she was capable of murdering him.no matter how eccentric bree was,he shouldn't have thought so low of her.it proves he never understood her.
@@aryastark111 actually no rex and her seemed to be on the mend only George started meddling by murdering rex and lying to Bree in saying that rex had told his colleagues about their sex life which wasn't true,he'd broken into their house. Rex would never have doubted Bree had George not murdered him remember.
Bree was old fashioned, don't mess with her
Hilarious! One of my favorite scenes.....
Gaby should've taken notes back in Season 1 lol
To be fair she did use Juanita's very serious gambling problem to her advantage and it worked until Carlos told his mother Gaby knew lol
Juanita put the scare into Gaby though. We weren't exactly sure if that woman killed Carlos' father or not.
@@Joe_Parmesan That and Juanita knew from the start Gaby was having an affair; Gaby had no moral high ground there so it's not like she could put Juanita in her place. But Bree had being the dutiful wife so Phyllis had nothing on her.
Bree was such an epic entertaining character 💯💯💯💯💯💯
I love season 2 Bree!
I wish they would have had some flashback scenes showing Rex and his mother together.
Is the reverend smiling in the end?...
Just noticed that too! He is always supportive of her from what I remember
Love Phyllis, Shirley Knight. RIP 🪦
She had the nerve
... This tea good as shit. ☕☕☕
Marcia Cross was the PERFECT person to play Bree. Did you know she auditioned for Susan's role??? I CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE.
Actually she auditioned to be Marie Alice as she didn't want to be one of the leads at first. Marc Cherry asked her to try the part of Bree, he said she was much better than any actresses who prepared for that role.
@@Elsie-bt4fk Dana Delaney who played Katherine turned down Bree and said she regretted it. And Nicolette Sheridan auditioned for Bree.
Great scene!
I loved when uptight, bougie Bree would lose her temper
Priceless
I know Phillis was awful to Bree, but she did lose her son.
+Patrick
Well as you can see, in the end, Phillis just throws away the notes with a grumpy face. She's not so much grieving as she's craving attention.
But she is not focusing on grief in that moment but on bashing Bree.
@@Widdekuu91 I get the feeling that Phyllis and rex had a very fractured relationship so it diminished her grief-she was angry, bitter and resentful that Bree stole her son away and resentful to Rex for letting it happen and ultimately abandoning her. The truth is that when the living around you have little presence no matter what their relation to you then when they die the grief can be diminished. What I'm saying is that rex had probably been dead to Phyllis for years before his physical death as they'd lost contact. The fact that Phyllis used his death to get attention from others with theatrical over the top public displays of grief and point score against Bree undermined her genuine grief.
It’s only when I look back I realise how terrible this was lmao
Gooooo Breee!!!
Doug's father on The King of Queens.
Bree is a badass
Cannot tell if your biological or in-law or adopt parents acts like that?
Bree, my love!
This is all Bree's fault.
Bree
lol
Is she related to Mary Jane from Spider-Man
Is Marcia Cross single?
no married with kids
Who is the actress that is doing Phylis?
shirley knight,she died in real life
Bree