EV Home Charger Teardowns E1: Tesla Wall Connector

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  • Antonio and Julian tear down the Tesla Wall Connector to review the components, materials, and assembly process.
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Комментарии • 507

  • @NewPhase-kq1fu
    @NewPhase-kq1fu Год назад +285

    Thanks for this video! I’m an electrician and I’ve installed just about every EV charger on the market. Tesla Wall Connector is in a league of its own for ease of installation. You can enter it with wiring from any direction, which is a BIG deal. The Ford 48A charger is the WORST. Please do a video that compares the poor design of the Ford Charger to the elegant design of the Tesla Wall Connector.

    • @NewPhase-kq1fu
      @NewPhase-kq1fu Год назад +25

      Also clear from this video why Tesla wall connector is the least expensive 48A charger you can get.

    • @BatterVswithAntonio
      @BatterVswithAntonio Год назад +24

      will do, just for you.

    • @TCPUDPATM
      @TCPUDPATM Год назад +9

      Is it worse simply as a charger install, or because the Ford supports bi-directional charge/discharging?
      I’m not surprised. I installed the tesla one myself and I was shocked at how easy it was. Pun intended.

    • @NewPhase-kq1fu
      @NewPhase-kq1fu Год назад +16

      @@TCPUDPATM the charger I’m referring to is not bi-directional. Just a simple 48A charger same as Tesla.

    • @TCPUDPATM
      @TCPUDPATM Год назад +3

      @@NewPhase-kq1fu Gotcha! Bummer that it’s such a pain. I tried to give Ford the benefit of doubt lol. Thanks for responding.

  • @suserman7775
    @suserman7775 Год назад +23

    After using just Level 1 at my house for a year I finally got this Tesla Wall Connector. I'm really happy with it.

  • @trex2092
    @trex2092 Год назад +11

    This is what I love about Munroe and Associates, I can totally geek out with the valuable data these pros provide.
    Installed my own, had my Electrician friend Q.A. my work. No smoke yeaaaaaaaaa.

  • @timwhite8500
    @timwhite8500 Год назад +25

    I like that IR heat sensor. Good way to monitor for high resistance terminations at the power feed block

    • @TradieTrev
      @TradieTrev Год назад

      Having it not seal correctly is an issue. I've had to physically push the device on the while my apprentice could aling up screws due to it's IP seal. This blokes never talked about and we have 3 phase models colloquially here. My first charger we installed a 3 phase 32A RCD circuit, but when I clamped the current it was only drawing 16A a phase going full belt!

  • @danapeck5382
    @danapeck5382 Год назад +23

    Just had one installed for our new Y, nice to know what's inside, electrician thought it was great, wifi took a little fooling around, operation great

    • @BatterVswithAntonio
      @BatterVswithAntonio Год назад +2

      Wi-fi was a bit non-compliant for me as well, had to get a range extender set up and now it works great

    • @danapeck5382
      @danapeck5382 Год назад

      @Antonio DiNunno My issue was connecting to my Google mesh. Not sure what actually worked, but it finally connected. Bet they do a fix in a future wall connector software update.

    • @davidherringgo
      @davidherringgo Год назад

      Congratulations. On your Wi-Fi it took 5 months to get a reliable Wi-Fi for my Tesla.

    • @Way-Way
      @Way-Way Год назад +1

      The reason the wifi was hard for you was because the Google Mesh & Nest routers uses a combined SSID and doesn’t separate the 5ghz and the 2.4ghz. It determines the band your device will be on based on distance.
      The Tesla wall connector uses only 2.4ghz. So if you’re too close to the router it’ll try and connect to the 5ghz band and will have fits. The wifi extenders will separate into both bands where the Tesla wall connector can now choose the 2.4 band manually. Same issue Google has with smart home devices like bulbs that only use 2.4ghz.
      Most routers do not have this issue as you can separate your 2.4 / 5 / 6 bands but Google combines.

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 Год назад

      @@Way-Way Sounds about right. Google's hardware is an absolute mess. Not sure how the worlds biggest software company has so much junk coming out, but its gotten ridiculous.

  • @alexanderkenway
    @alexanderkenway Год назад +3

    I don't think it's emphasized enough just how easy this connector is to install. Truly a well designed product

  • @jimmurphy5355
    @jimmurphy5355 Год назад +10

    Glad to see you pulled this and eliminated some technical bloopers before re-posting. One thing still grated on my engineer ear: At one point, one of the presenters says that level 1 charges at "one kilowatt per hour." No. Just no. It charges at 1 kilowatt. Full stop. Or you could say it charges at "one kilowatt hour per hour." Which is a bit redundant, but I have seen plausible arguments that saying it that way helps non-electrical folks understand that kilowatt hours (NOT kilowatts) are what you pay for, store, and use to move the car.
    And in the category of sweeping back the tide, but I want to try anyway - the items you are evaluating are not chargers. The charger (for level 1 and 2) is built into the car, and controls how much current the car draws. Yes, the public is going to call them chargers - but Munro ENGINEERS ought to call them what they are: EVSEs (electric vehicle supply equipment.)
    It's a distinction worth making, because even if the EVSE on the wall is rated at 48 amps or more, the car's onboard charger may not be able to pull that much. You will do a public service by emphasizing that if the charger in the car is rated at 7 kW, plugging it in to an EVSE that could supply 11 - 22 kW isn't going to charge the car any faster than an 7 kW EVSE that: costs less, less to buy, less to install (cheaper wiring) and may fit into an existing electrical panel's limits when I higher rated EVSE might require a utility service upgrade and a service panel upgrade.

    • @TechnicalLee
      @TechnicalLee Год назад +3

      Yeah this video is going to trigger a lot of EEs with the poor terminology used. Not very professional.

    • @BatterVswithAntonio
      @BatterVswithAntonio Год назад +2

      We'll discuss the nomenclature on the next one, seems like it needs addressed.

    • @markd4905
      @markd4905 Год назад +2

      8A * 120V = 1000W But if you boost up to 12A max on a 15A outlet you get 1500W like a hair dryer.

    • @moestrei
      @moestrei Год назад

      👏👏👏👏👏 you really think they would get those basics right 😅

  • @NextGenEvs
    @NextGenEvs Год назад +7

    These chargers are awesome!! Best in class

  • @jbarvideo12
    @jbarvideo12 Год назад +6

    Great overview of Tesla Wall Connectors.

  • @PaulVanchugov
    @PaulVanchugov Год назад +47

    Those two connectors unpopulated are for between unit’s communication up to 6 units connected parallel RS485 for load balancing. I have 2 connected at home but suspect they now communicate via Wi-Fi instead. That allow them all units to share and load balance dynamically single circuit like 60A between 4 cars or 40A between two in my case. Works better than any other I used.

    • @styno7267
      @styno7267 Год назад +8

      If it’s RS-485 then it should be easy to find the necessary transceiver ic on the board.

    • @HenryLoenwind
      @HenryLoenwind Год назад +4

      The 2-wire interconnect was what version 2 had, version 3 only has wifi according to Tesla's specs. So while the version 3 may still have the hardware, if those terminals are that, they currently have no function.

    • @bossmanmce5599
      @bossmanmce5599 Год назад +1

      Pavel u are correct. The Gen 3 can power share up 6 gen3 units feeding from a variety of breakers. Ideal for commerciall installs in parkades etc

    • @PaulVanchugov
      @PaulVanchugov Год назад

      Tesla chargers are an iPhone of chargers. They just work. Not many setting you can change though. At first I was bummed by that coming from other brands where you can tweak all parameters but after few days I was like “Damn if I care about all those tweaks! It just works somehow and that’s save me time and worry!” Tesla magic. Now I never even care to check what those charges doing and how because they do their job orchestrated with cars so perfectly!

    • @SyntheticSpy
      @SyntheticSpy Год назад +1

      @@HenryLoenwind Maybe to communicate with an older gen2 version?

  • @ericplatzke
    @ericplatzke Год назад +4

    Awesome video, Grace crushed this edit!

  • @staudtj1
    @staudtj1 Год назад +13

    The Wifi antenna might also be used to do over the air updates or to communicate with a Tesla Powerwall.

    • @patrickkenny2077
      @patrickkenny2077 Год назад +1

      It is used for commissioning of the unit as well; you can pull in some home automation information from it, but unfortunately you cannot modify the charging current remotely via the connector-- you have to use the app for the car (or Tesla API to the car).

    • @jonocasino8076
      @jonocasino8076 Год назад

      If you have more than one, it will negotiate power sharing on the same circuit, and can also enable billing in a commercial installation.

    • @madmatt337
      @madmatt337 Год назад

      It’s mostly used for business or commercial settings

  • @cesartrujillo4190
    @cesartrujillo4190 Год назад +3

    Woooooooow! I’m very excited to watch these next 10 videos! 👀

  • @bill1550
    @bill1550 Год назад +4

    We have 4 Tesla wall chargers connected to a 100 amp / 240 v subpanel. They handily load balance over WiFi, delivering the full 48 amps per car when only 2 need to charge and dropping to 24 amps per car when all 4 are charging. Work really well.
    Also, we installed pull down reels for cables, makes charging a 15 second experience.

    • @FutureSystem738
      @FutureSystem738 Год назад

      But ICE car drivers say charging takes a long time, conveniently forgetting that for most people, 99% of charging is done at home. It’s a full year since I had to publicly charge- all the rest has been done while I sleep, which has saved a huge amount of time compared to our other (ICE) car.

    • @bossmanmce5599
      @bossmanmce5599 Год назад

      thanks William, the Tesla power/wi fi charging is seceond to none

  • @nakfan
    @nakfan Год назад +2

    Excellent work 👍 Thanks for sharing.

  • @spamin8r
    @spamin8r Год назад +3

    Wow that intro. Good job Munro team!

  • @Riverrain123
    @Riverrain123 Год назад +1

    Very cool!

  • @Tazman55x
    @Tazman55x Год назад +11

    Thank you for the update and fixing the information which was incorrect! 10/10 Munro!

    • @PaulCHa
      @PaulCHa Год назад +1

      What was incorrect?

    • @TRYtoHELPyou
      @TRYtoHELPyou Год назад +1

      ​@@PaulCHa if people want to get bent over this video use of the term "level three" or "level four" is not reflected in any electrical code that I know of. Some people dislike people calling DC fast charging "level three". Personally I like saying level three however would not be able to prove my case to a judge in the court of .... Electrical nomenclature? 😂 Unsure what was incorrect in previous video.

    • @georgepelton5645
      @georgepelton5645 Год назад +1

      Yes. Thanks Munro Live for fixing the previous video. Munro goes the extra mile to insure the information they provide is correct.

  • @hammocktimenapper
    @hammocktimenapper Год назад +23

    Fun fact about this charger. In Europe, the version of the gen 3 charger supports three phase, 400 volt wires

    • @adityagovindarajan505
      @adityagovindarajan505 Год назад +6

      We would like to see the Gen 3 EU design of the Tesla 3Phase wall charger please, since so many of Munro Live’s fan base is international

    • @marshalllapenta7656
      @marshalllapenta7656 Год назад

      Interesting 🤔

  • @williampmcd8548
    @williampmcd8548 Год назад +3

    Thank you. Very informative.

  • @WingofTech
    @WingofTech Год назад +1

    Holy what a groovy intro, keep those comin’ 💿

  • @deraj_adako
    @deraj_adako Год назад +1

    Intro music is awesome!

  • @the_jarmel
    @the_jarmel Год назад +1

    👏👏👏 Love the show .... Hope everyone has a good Tuesday ✌️

  • @alexforget
    @alexforget Год назад +11

    One thing to note about all level 2 is that they do very little, they are basically a smart switch that disconnect the power to the cable when not in use.
    They put the 220v on and the real work happen in the onboard charger of the car.

    • @patrickkenny2077
      @patrickkenny2077 Год назад

      Yeah, I think this should have been mentioned in the video. Same for L1 of course.
      They do provide ground fault protection though.

  • @jimparr01Utube
    @jimparr01Utube Год назад +3

    Like the rear feed option (knock-outs for incoming power cable).

  • @kelvynbettridge
    @kelvynbettridge Год назад

    Great to see this. It needs to be said as many don’t appreciate that these are not car brand specific.

    • @ouch1011
      @ouch1011 Год назад +1

      The charger isn’t but the connector on the vehicle end is. The one that comes with this charger will only work on a vehicle with a Tesla charge inlet (unless you spend extra for an adapter).

    • @kelvynbettridge
      @kelvynbettridge Год назад +1

      @@ouch1011 correct this would be true for the US and possibly China, but in the rest of the world Teslas like most are supplied with CCS2 ports. Consequently the Wall Chargers are supplied with type 2 plugs.

  • @teslacarolina
    @teslacarolina Год назад +19

    You can feed the Tesla charger from the top, bottom or back. I installed my charger and fed it from the back for a very clean installation. Just make sure to size the wire to handle a 60 amp load and use copper per the Tesla specifications only. My charger was $450 but my wire was $950. I did however run the wire 70 feet so I went to the max gauge that would fit the charger and was required to carry 60 amps, even though the charger is 48 amps max, you must install it on a 60 amp double pole breaker circuit per code. Southwire has a free app to calculate the wire size based on the run distance and amp load.

    • @jm100368
      @jm100368 Год назад +1

      guessing you did 4/3. overkill. 6/3 would have been fine and cost $400-$500 less

    • @cengeb
      @cengeb Год назад

      80% max on continuous load, which is 3 hrs or more

    • @thang1742
      @thang1742 Год назад

      @@jm100368 4/3 is much better especially at that distance.. im at 6/3 33 ft and im not gettign max voltage.

    • @TechnicalLee
      @TechnicalLee Год назад +1

      Yeah, sounds like you oversized the wire and paid more than necessary. #6 is fine for up to 200 ft. You size conductors based off actual load, not breaker size. So you should have used 48A in your voltage drop calculator, not 60A. The breaker is then sized to give 125% of the necessary ampacity in this case.

    • @TechnicalLee
      @TechnicalLee Год назад

      ​@@thang1742 Depends on a lot of factors including the voltage the step-down transformer is set to, time of day, the length and quality of your service drop, other houses sharing the same transformer, and installation quality. I wouldn't worry about it unless you were getting less than 228V.

  • @MbT379
    @MbT379 Год назад +7

    Really need to see Munro take apart an Electrify America Public EVSE (believe this is the correct designation). Why do they keep failing and disappointing EV owners? Thank you…

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  Год назад +1

      Thanks, Michael!

    • @cengeb
      @cengeb Год назад +1

      first EV experience in a rental Kia, went to Electrify America charger at a Walmart, super fast, worked great, Kia parked next to a VW ID4, got in conversation, who loves her ID4, 2 years free charges at Electrify America units. 150kW charger had 0 miles left "turtle mode" on Kia 54 minutes got 80%. 202 miles...went into Walmart for a drink on the road in no time, of course passing 5 gas stations that would have been 10 minutes and done, EV is long way to becoming practical for long drives

    • @BatterVswithAntonio
      @BatterVswithAntonio Год назад +1

      Anyone want to donate one of the many "not working" ones?

  • @MrFoxRobert
    @MrFoxRobert Год назад +1

    Thank you!

  • @buddhathisbread3727
    @buddhathisbread3727 Год назад

    Loved the 80's intro

  • @aussienyc7
    @aussienyc7 Год назад

    Thanks for this as mI am about to install a Tesla charger

  • @tumbleweed1976
    @tumbleweed1976 Год назад +5

    Thank you for introducing these men and their job titles.

  • @ElectricCarAustralia
    @ElectricCarAustralia Год назад +1

    Thanks Guys, very interesting. 👍

  • @BendeVette
    @BendeVette Год назад +17

    This charger is 3 phase in the Netherlands. 3x16A on 230V. Other electronic design, but the same on the outside. Installation was really easy as each reasonable modern house has 3 phase 25A as minimum. If you don't have 3 phase it is easy to get it (Netherlands).

    • @Ariccio123
      @Ariccio123 Год назад

      3 phase is standard in the Netherlands?! That's amazing!!

    • @zoltanszeles9394
      @zoltanszeles9394 Год назад +1

      @@Ariccio123Pretty much everywhere in Europe.

    • @BendeVette
      @BendeVette Год назад +1

      @@Ariccio123
      Not really if everyone has it ;-)

    • @Ariccio123
      @Ariccio123 Год назад +1

      @@BendeVette our split phased and two phase wired residences are deeply jealous!

    • @BendeVette
      @BendeVette Год назад

      @@Ariccio123
      Is there no way to get three phase power?
      It realy has several advantages, primarely the gauge of the wires (less losses).

  • @metalmatrix7
    @metalmatrix7 Год назад +20

    Wasn’t this posted a few days ago?

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  Год назад +23

      We had to make some revisions.

    • @tumbleweed1976
      @tumbleweed1976 Год назад +7

      It was posted then announced to be taken down to make corrections/improvements.

  • @ronaldxyz1001
    @ronaldxyz1001 Год назад +1

    Fascinating, thanks!

  • @gerrit-fransvanpelt8551
    @gerrit-fransvanpelt8551 Год назад +6

    There was a bar left on the table after the assembly 😂
    Love to see those videos ❤

    • @10esseeTony
      @10esseeTony Год назад +1

      For the Assembly Associate, the bar is pre-made into the base. The real problem here, is that they didn't insert the connector for the LED charging status indicator. :)

  • @evanbozogan232
    @evanbozogan232 Год назад +9

    10:19 On page 15 the Tesla wall connector manual has a diagram with arrows and numbers, there it indicates that the red and white connectors are RS-485 a type of serial communications port most likely for debugging

    • @tomaspavera6709
      @tomaspavera6709 Год назад +2

      not for debugging; in case of other brands, it is used in combination with the external RS-485/Modbus power meter to limit maximal charging current based on total house power consumption

    • @alexforget
      @alexforget Год назад +3

      I was thinking it’s for someone having many of them, rs-485 allow to chain devices, that way you could have many in a parking and monitor and control the use in a central place with a simple connection.

    • @williambraun2701
      @williambraun2701 Год назад +3

      My installation document included information about connecting multiple chargers together so the vehicles could negotiate which charges first or most. I believe that is the point of the serial data.

  • @roxter299roxter7
    @roxter299roxter7 Год назад +1

    I like the new intro!

  • @FixCarYourself
    @FixCarYourself Год назад +3

    Thanks for reposting. Some interesting info was omitted from the previous video like the self destruct fuse on the board or reset button like a circuit breaker. And the mounting screws being more expensive to purchase on Tesla's website indicating just buy them in a hardware store for less. In the future, please consider adding text to a video if you feel you have to take it down before reposting to correct any misspoken words. This way you can retain most if not all of the original presenter's insightful info.

  • @stueygewy
    @stueygewy 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! 0:27 Antonio, I think you should highly consider keeping/growing the sideburns next time! 💇‍♂

  • @davidherringgo
    @davidherringgo Год назад

    Thanks

  • @MTNRanger
    @MTNRanger Год назад +3

    I'm surprised the correct term EVSE was not discussed. They are not chargers. By the way, I used level 1 charging for a year at got about 3-4 miles/hour on a NEMA 5-15 and 4-5 miles/hour on a NEMA 5-20 on my Model 3 LR.

    • @zaphodbeeblebrox2817
      @zaphodbeeblebrox2817 Год назад +1

      That bugs me. How hard is it to say that the charger is in the car and this is just a safe connector. Stop dumbing things down, we are dumb enough.

    • @BatterVswithAntonio
      @BatterVswithAntonio Год назад

      There are a 101 different official names, I still like the "incorrect" 'charger'. Just watched the Marques Brownlee interview with RJ Scaringe, and RJ called it a charger. Sooooo....

    • @markd4905
      @markd4905 Год назад

      I like the installation with all the wires in the back plate and you just plug in the charger. If it ever needs service just take out four screws and unplugged the charger and mail it in.

  • @TheKill3rmonk
    @TheKill3rmonk 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video! My wall charger just crapped out this year and Tesla support said I need to replace it. According to the testing they were able to do, they were seeing unexpected voltage drops. "I was able to run a few tests from the part number and serial number that you provided. The Wall Connector is detecting unexpected voltage drops." Since after providing them additional info after they sent me that, I was going to try taking apart the wall charger and cleaning it out or checking for anything on the interior before replacing it since they are fairly expensive. Anything you guys would recommend I take a look at in particular on the inside? I was getting ~240v (T1-T2) and 120v (T1-G & T2-G) from measuring directly at my electrical panel in the house.

  • @Ghartausz
    @Ghartausz Год назад +4

    The intros keep getting better and better. Cool!

  • @Alexzw92
    @Alexzw92 Год назад +6

    That intro track has a quite a nice jingle to it

    • @Chantillian
      @Chantillian Год назад +1

      First part of it reminded me of themes used by local cable channels in the 1970s.
      Maybe just me.

  • @rkgsd
    @rkgsd Год назад

    This is great! Currently weighing options while a 14-50 is scheduled for installation on the front porch. I've narrowed it down to Tesla, Grizzl-E and Emporia. I love the metal casing on the Grizzl-E.
    The advantage of non-Tesla charger seems to be the universal compatible with any brand of EV.

    • @jg5001
      @jg5001 Год назад +1

      You can still get a CCS adapter with the Tesla charger.

    • @BatterVswithAntonio
      @BatterVswithAntonio Год назад

      Stay tuned then ;-)

  • @moff1959
    @moff1959 Год назад +25

    Big fan of Munro, Small point EVSE (Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment ) not "Chargers" its basically a power cord with a smart switch, and big point these devices will draw large current (Amps) over a long period of time. Correct installation is important along with circuit breaker and wire gauge size for obvious safety reasons.

    • @pgbpro20
      @pgbpro20 Год назад

      Everyone's gonna keep calling them chargers regardless of what (us) nerds say.

    • @moff1959
      @moff1959 Год назад

      @@pgbpro20 Your right that genie is already out of the bottle and manufactures want to continue calling them "Chargers" that way they can charge $$$$$$$$ hundreds for a fancy power cord, over inflated pricing in the EV world is nothing new.

  • @hansh2463
    @hansh2463 Год назад +20

    Maybe also take into account the ease of installation... basically you need to install the base only to the electrical wires and then click on the housing

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 Год назад +1

      any Chimp w/ screwdriver can assemble.

    • @alesksander
      @alesksander Год назад

      @@markplott4820 🙈 indeed

  • @nihongobenkyoshimasu3190
    @nihongobenkyoshimasu3190 Год назад +3

    In UK, I saw this RUclips video from an elctrican installer, who said that he could not install a Tesla
    Wall charger because they dont have a arc circuit breaker, unless he also install a circuit breaker separately.
    Note: An arc-fault circuit interrupter (AFCI) or arc-fault detection device (AFDD) is a circuit breaker that
    breaks the circuit when it detects the electric arcs that are a signature of loose connections in home wiring.
    Loose connections, which can develop over time, can sometimes become hot enough to ignite house fires.

    • @patrickkenny2077
      @patrickkenny2077 Год назад +1

      IIRC, the required protection is integrated into the unit.

    • @bossmanmce5599
      @bossmanmce5599 Год назад

      @@patrickkenny2077 correct Patrick

  • @ghostindamachine
    @ghostindamachine Год назад +6

    Super cool video! Thank you gentlemen for the excellent presentation

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff Год назад +5

    10:36 these terminals maybe an input from an external current transformer to allow charge curent to be limited based on total house load. This is a very common feature on EVSEs in the UK

    • @ThisRandomUsername
      @ThisRandomUsername Год назад

      Interesting that they would keep that on a 2-phase board when everywhere else has 220/230 V on a single phase. Do you think it'd be useful to only monitor one leg of the mains in the US?

    • @frankcoffey
      @frankcoffey Год назад

      They could also be test and diagnostic points used during manufacturing.

    • @shazam6274
      @shazam6274 Год назад +2

      Keep guessing guys, it's an RS485 for load balancing when using more than one charger in a household. Its plainly labeled on the instruction sheet, too.

    • @frankcoffey
      @frankcoffey Год назад

      @@shazam6274 Cool! I really expected that to be a wireless communication of some kind but wired is good too. I’m going to need a second one at some point 🙂

    • @ThisRandomUsername
      @ThisRandomUsername Год назад

      @@shazam6274 fantastic, thanks for the insight 😀

  • @r.o7897
    @r.o7897 Год назад +2

    I love it!

  • @steventrimble2275
    @steventrimble2275 Год назад +1

    Antonio rocks!

  • @nycameleon
    @nycameleon Год назад +1

    Sweet video, I have that charger and it does 48A nicely... But my button on the plug won't open the charge port... wish there was more on how the push button on the plug is connected. When I press the button It stops charging and unlocks, so I think the data cable is hooked up. I guess I'll open it up and look in there to see if it it was an assembly issue or quality issue.

    • @meyermicro
      @meyermicro Год назад

      My model 3 will do that if it hasn't unlocked yet. (I use my phone as a key and sometimes it's slow to unlock.)

    • @nycameleon
      @nycameleon Год назад +1

      @meyermicro it's an X, my mobile connector opens it fine, but this one won't

    • @TechnicalLee
      @TechnicalLee Год назад

      Not a Tesla expert, but I think charge port opening uses Bluetooth. So there could be an issue with the Bluetooth antenna in the handle.

  • @pythons4114
    @pythons4114 Год назад

    I look forward to your breakdown of Tesla's HW4.0 and a comparison with HW3.0 to see exactly how much has changed. Thank you very much.

  • @lacikeri3102
    @lacikeri3102 Год назад +4

    That red and white speaker connector, I think it's an RS485 MODBUS output. There must be a Maxim485 chip nearby. Based on my research, the energy sharing was able to work on the V2 charger. Unfortunately, the V3 charger only works via Wi-Fi, and it does not allow external software to control the charging. I hope this will be fixed in another update.

    • @tazeat
      @tazeat Год назад +1

      This would be my first guess. Some sort of serial interface which may be multi purpose but in previous generations was used for power sharing. I have no idea if anyone has reversed the Wi-Fi sharing on the V3s, but I have to imagine the protocol can't be too difficult unless they're doing some sort of strong pki based device authentication to secure the power sharing communications.

    • @tazeat
      @tazeat Год назад +1

      And some quick Googling, it appears the protocol is HTTP based and does do mTLS with some sort of baked in device identities, but you CAN set max power on a per device bases using the public not secured APIs.

    • @patrickkenny2077
      @patrickkenny2077 Год назад +1

      @@tazeat Setting max power really is just setting the circuit breaker size, and IIRC can only be done in commissioning mode.

  • @wtmayhew
    @wtmayhew Год назад +1

    Something else to look at, which one of the other commenters touched on, is what is the labor cost associated with the installation? The Tesla unit appears quite easy to install. There are some nice features such as choosing direction of cable entry and the integral wire stripping gauge. The installation cost may or may not be a pass-though to the end user, depending. If I am not mistaken, GM, Ford, etc. have flat rate or no-cost EVSE installation included with the vehicle purchase.

    • @pony53
      @pony53 Год назад +2

      Ford does not for the F-150 Lightning, but they are happy to sell your data to SunRun who began contacting me almost immediately after I placed my pre-order.

    • @wtmayhew
      @wtmayhew Год назад

      @@pony53 Thank you for the reply. I appreciate the correction to my remark above.

  • @chuckboyle8456
    @chuckboyle8456 Год назад +1

    So for a “typical” home installation in the USA, what conductors come out of the main breaker panel to the charger assembly? Stranded or solid? 16:48 What size wire for L1, L2 & Earth? What are the NEC requirements for safe operation? More installation details should have been provided.

    • @patrickkenny2077
      @patrickkenny2077 Год назад

      #6AWG, which is a coarse-stranded cable. Usually it will be a 6/3 Romex cable.

    • @TechnicalLee
      @TechnicalLee Год назад +1

      The video was about the EVSE itself. Those details are up to the electrician and local electrical code to determine. But a typical install for a 240V/48A charge rate will use 6 AWG wire (copper course stranded) for L1/L2 with a solid copper 10 AWG ground (earth) wire. Unlike UK, USA does not require fancy terminations with ferrules (bare wires in screw terminals is acceptable), nor a local earth rod. Virtually all EVSEs sold in the US have built-in double-pole RCD protection.

    • @chuckboyle8456
      @chuckboyle8456 Год назад

      @@TechnicalLee Superb response, greatly appreciated! Cheers!

  • @jeffreysmith4586
    @jeffreysmith4586 Год назад +7

    I'd love to see how Wall Box compares

  • @freddiecarr7602
    @freddiecarr7602 Год назад

    Did I see copper only on the terminals for the incoming wire? also what size is the wire gauge of the charging cable as it seemed 4 meters long at a max 48 amp?

  • @worldinandaround
    @worldinandaround Год назад

    Opening music is good now

  • @estan1965
    @estan1965 Год назад +2

    Sorry, it’s technically not called “level 3”. It’s called a “DC fast charger”.

  • @charlescole-p9v
    @charlescole-p9v Год назад +1

    Another solid Tesla product !

  • @Firestorm637
    @Firestorm637 Год назад

    Level 2 wall connectors allow use of your level 2 on board charger. The vehicle’s charger on board determines speed of charge as well as the 220 30-60 amp circuit. Many Leafs and Bolts have 3-7 kw on board charger. Teslas base model 3 single motor 7 kw vs dual motor 11 kw on board charger.

  • @123rkss
    @123rkss Год назад

    is it possible to take the cable from this with the 'button' for the chargeport and mount it to a different brand wall charger?

  • @BeepasGarage
    @BeepasGarage Год назад +1

    Do the Chargepoint Flex next!

  • @lemongavine
    @lemongavine Год назад +1

    I've been using a level-1 charger exclusively for 2 years (27K miles). No issues and I very rarely need to use public chargers. My battery gives 260 miles of range.

  • @BatterVswithAntonio
    @BatterVswithAntonio Год назад +3

    Confirmed: the red and white connector on the back is for hooking multiple connectors in a series system.

    • @davidl.beckwith4836
      @davidl.beckwith4836 Год назад

      Do you have a source how this is accomplished. I thought hardwired communications was the Gen2 Wall Connector. Gen3 accomplishes this through wifi.
      I think this port is for the Smart Current Limits Meter they are now rolling out. But it could be possible it is for both.

    • @BatterVswithAntonio
      @BatterVswithAntonio Год назад +1

      @@davidl.beckwith4836a very experienced certified installer mentioned it.

  • @Endymion.
    @Endymion. Год назад +2

    Love the intro music ! Lets go !!🎉

  • @chriauc2976
    @chriauc2976 Год назад +2

    Took mine appart after replacement was sent a Main relay was stuck ….
    Bent back the spring and modified a bit and my dad been using it for his Chevy Volt -20c weather for a Year not problems albeit Volt charge at 20amps max

  • @jean-louisbedard6518
    @jean-louisbedard6518 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the Analysis.. Could you ad extra information such as (Resistance to Weather of Casing, Cable, Connector protection in Hot or Cold temperatures)

    • @BatterVswithAntonio
      @BatterVswithAntonio Год назад

      Check out "State of Charge" 's youtube channel for more detailed info about operation.

    • @jean-louisbedard6518
      @jean-louisbedard6518 Год назад +1

      @@BatterVswithAntonio Yep but ! I trust Sandy team.

  • @MNWarthogFan
    @MNWarthogFan Год назад +1

    I understand this is a 2nd edition of the video.
    What were the errors or oversights in the 1st edition that required a redo?

  • @bjornb.6662
    @bjornb.6662 Год назад

    Cool. I would like to see a Zaptec or Easee charger too for comparison. They are very common in Europe

  • @Resist4
    @Resist4 Год назад +1

    Okay to be clear, there is no such thing as 110/220 volt outlets in the United States, They've been 120/240 volt for like 100 years now.
    So why did Tesla limit what their vehicles can accept to 48 amps? Many EV's now are doing 80 amps for faster charging. The Model S used to allow 80 amps years ago.

  • @williamelkington5430
    @williamelkington5430 Год назад +2

    I'd be very interested in a teardown of a Clipper Creek HCS-60R charge dispenser.

  • @shaminatorqc
    @shaminatorqc 9 месяцев назад

    If sensor trip, can we reset it somewhere ?

  • @SuspectOnTheLam
    @SuspectOnTheLam Год назад

    It’s crazy there’s a hidden NFC reader on the Wall Connector. Tesla is really thinking ahead.

  • @BillSpohn
    @BillSpohn Год назад

    Nice work! Hope you will do an Emporia EVSE, too.

  • @HelmutTschemernjak
    @HelmutTschemernjak Год назад +7

    very basic report you did on the mechanical part only. It is x times more interesting to find out what can be configured via WiFi and what the box is capable off, e.g.
    - RFID?
    - Setting to allow only certain VINs to charge
    - Trotteling when multiple chargers are on the same AC wire
    - How many watts it eats when idle
    - Options how to enable/disable it via WiFi
    - Options to limit the max charging power e.g. 4 kW instead of 11kW for solar planets where the solar system cannot produce 11kW
    - Options to remote enable/disable charging

    • @BatterVswithAntonio
      @BatterVswithAntonio Год назад

      It is clearly capable of more than just charging. I feel like there are a lot of software based easter eggs ready to be activated with an OTA update

    • @Marki555
      @Marki555 Год назад +1

      Yes, you can limit charging for all EVs, all Teslas or specific Tesla VINs. Multiple chargers communicate via Wifi to share the total supply amperes. You set the max. current / power during setup. Not easily adjustable while charging. Some use Tesla API to dynamically adjust the charge rate in car according to solar, or use different wallbox which can be integrated with solar.

    • @HelmutTschemernjak
      @HelmutTschemernjak Год назад

      ​@@Marki555 hi Mark, thank you very much for this specific information. I am planing as well to write some software to use the Tesla API to adjust charging in sync with the solar power production. Regards from Hannover, Germany

  • @keith8443
    @keith8443 Год назад +2

    No mention of pen fault protection, does the charger have this?

    • @Warekiwi
      @Warekiwi Год назад

      No it doesn't but pen fault protection isn't very expensive. I have a Garo unit installed with mine so makes the Tesla Gen 3 UK legal.

  • @DishNetworkDealerNEO
    @DishNetworkDealerNEO Год назад +1

    That NFC could be used to prevent it from charging Tesla cars not driven by the owner of the charger! It can keep the unit from activating the contactors unless the owner’s phone or keycard is waved by the nfc chip, in areas of poor security.

    • @taylorlightfoot
      @taylorlightfoot Год назад +1

      This charger already has the ability to VIN restrict to certain cars.
      I think Tesla might payment enable these Level 2 chargers at some point in the future, I believe they have much bigger ambitions of being the charging provider for all cars in the future and this is them building out a vast network of infrastructure that can be enabled with the push of a firmware update.

    • @DishNetworkDealerNEO
      @DishNetworkDealerNEO Год назад

      @@taylorlightfoot and pay the guy paying for the electricity being used by a stranger hopefully at a significant profit to the guy who has this installed on the side of his house, I hope. That means tapping the owner of the Tesla Charger into the Tesla Ecosystem to funnel payments from the driver who stopped to let his car take a sip of electrons.

  • @goevorgohome
    @goevorgohome Год назад +2

    Interesting that it has a NFC chip installed close to the face plate. Future tap to pay functionality maybe !?!

  • @chrishosking6842
    @chrishosking6842 Год назад +1

    Was there any indication of bidirectional charging circuitry?

  • @vidhiksingh8035
    @vidhiksingh8035 8 месяцев назад

    which make relay are used in this charger

  • @randychan3498
    @randychan3498 Год назад

    Thank you very much for the video. As an ex-electronic technician. Battery and EV charging technologies are new to me. I also own a Model Y. A basic question regarding charging the Model Y battery. I have read recommendations for charging the EV battery between 20 - 80% during normal commute use. To keep the battery degradation to a minimum. Does the 20-80% apply to all charger sources including with level 1 (115V) charger? Or, 20-80% is more to the level 3 (supercharger) source?

    • @BatterVswithAntonio
      @BatterVswithAntonio Год назад

      100% stresses the anode of the cell itself. The charge rate is limited by the ability of the cell to take on more charge. Don't think of it as added fluid to a vessel but as if you are adding air to a bike tire. It is easy to pump at first , but as more pressure builds up the harder it gets to pump that next shot of air into it.

  • @nononsenseBennett
    @nononsenseBennett Год назад

    Another typically elegant Tesla design.

  • @wa7215
    @wa7215 Год назад

    Nice simple, but well thought through, engineering design, a bit like a Tesla, I guess. 😉😁

  • @SS-yw7vo
    @SS-yw7vo Год назад

    I dance to the opening credits?

  • @cmdrbillpaxton4302
    @cmdrbillpaxton4302 Год назад

    Power cable can feed in from the top, bottom or back..

  • @markplott4820
    @markplott4820 Год назад +3

    MUNRO live - thank you for posting this. this is LONG overdue , as you have shown other EVSE in the past.
    Meanwhile , in China TESLA announces the Cybervault , a locking EVSE home charger for Tesla in China.
    the Metal exterior is made like the Cybertruck , low polygon and Angular.
    and its just a Standard wall connector.

    • @BatterVswithAntonio
      @BatterVswithAntonio Год назад

      its only available in China, atm. :(

    • @Frank_W.
      @Frank_W. Год назад

      I hope it comes to USA even though I don’t have a need for the locking aspect of it, it will match my CT.

  • @consrafael2228
    @consrafael2228 Год назад

    Hi sir do you have any idea on how can i order a new wall connector handle cable? Thanks

  • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
    @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Год назад +4

    👋 THANKS JULIAN,ANTONIO ALSO THE REST OF THE MUNRO TEAM…for tearing into the chargers 💚💚💚

  • @1944chevytruck
    @1944chevytruck Год назад

    AWESOME

  • @123rkss
    @123rkss Год назад

    cool video, but why didnt you take apart the connector that goes into the car? would have been nice to see that too...
    Also, no mention about load balancing

  • @kennethhickey6068
    @kennethhickey6068 Год назад

    Are you planing to do a teardown on Fronius WallPilot charger? It would be very interesting to see how they compare to other brands. Fronius are renowned for their welding equipment and in more recent times their PV inverters.

  • @Thomas_Acharya
    @Thomas_Acharya Год назад +3

    7:46... Are you sure the 80% rule isn't so the wires don't heat up... Since the EV chargers are on continuously and near max load unlike most electrical loads?

    • @martybosch8088
      @martybosch8088 Год назад +1

      All circuit breakers sold in the us are rated 80% continuous duty. There are 100% rated breakers but are uncommon in residential applications

  • @davidl.beckwith4836
    @davidl.beckwith4836 Год назад +1

    The two connectors on the back of the board is probably for the Smart Current Limits Meter (1938241-00-A) now being rolled out.

  • @wesvasher
    @wesvasher Год назад +7

    Wonder how long it will take Tesla to have Optimus assembling these things.

  • @adityagovindarajan505
    @adityagovindarajan505 Год назад

    A very compact design for a 48A circuit but we would like to Munro to shed more light on what it would take to get out 60A from this EVSE assuming the eV’s onboard charger can handle the extra 12A current. For example Lucid Air supports 80A AC charging on the type 1/SAEJ1772 connector with an adapter.