thats not the best 18650 battery, The application the battery is intended to be used will determine the best battery needed. Anyway ill link to where you can all educate yourselves on 18650 batteries. This person is the Mini Quad Test Bench of 18650 styled batteries, those of you who have these types of batteries and dont know, please take time to have a quick look. www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/mooch.256958/ The Battery interview with Mooch! What you need to know ruclips.net/video/KtMRuivHn68/видео.html Battery Talk With Mooch | Sony VTC5A VS VTC6 | What You Need To Know About Batteries ruclips.net/video/jg1M7QQVIAQ/видео.html That should provide enough educational data so you dont go blow yourself and others around you up.
hey thx for responding, yeah its important to make available information that helps us all. Keep up the good work too enjoy listening to your views and watching your channel.
I loved all thirty minutes of that video, and am absolutely blown away by your knowledge of the products and your beautiful frames. Really helping me decide my next build👌
2nd video I have watched of yours and immediately feel like your giving real genuine information not influenced by any obligations. Been close to pulling tbe trigger on getting into building so these videos are great because I want to get it right the first time and not have to find out something sucks the hard way. Appreciate it man, stay genuine.
never cease to amaze me, another phenomenal video yet again sir. I never comment on nobodies video but yours I couldn't resist...great information and thank you.
I don't need the ugly frame but I really wanna build an upside down quad with upside down motors even though it's not practical. Also I'm really really digging the 4" one. That frame but with a 20x20mm center stack I think is the perfect quad
+Samm Sheperd I'll send you a 4" when the prototypes come in. You're not gonna fly anything else anymore. All my other stuff is trash compared to these two.
How much are your new ghost frames? Or, how much are they GOING to be? Dunno if I wanna build my first quad with them or not. Could you make custom arms that would fit a 4.5 inch prop? Could you hybridize the design with the low top plate and stick through bottom FPV cam design you had on another frame? Any way to do a top mounted battery with the superlites?
I've heard people say upside down motors are much more protected in a crash. But they are more prone to getting caught in grass on takeoff/langing or after crashing...
Are you kidding me? I watched every second of the video. Your content is absolutely stellar and the most informative I've ever seen. You're like a god to me, I swear. Just keep up the amazing work. No one else gets me as excited about quad stuff as you do.
That might be true for most people, but you aren't most people. The stuff you have lying around is all really cool stuff! Getting to design and collaborate with others to make new motors? How cool is that? Don't even get me started on the dream of designing frames. And your propeller reviews! It was because of you that I bought my first cyclones, then the new GemFan 5152 PCs that I'm still waiting for in the mail, and now the Emax props that I MUST get when they become available. And I am SOO getting the Hyperfloss once it's officially released. I am going to be broke because of you and I will be smiling the WHOLE time.
It's either the FlightClub Tokio X or the Hyperfloss, But probably the Hyperfloss. I have always been convinced that smaller and lighter is better. And that first video where you ran it on the five inch blades and you did those two punch-outs.. I was instantly in love. I can't waaaaaaiit to see more videos and maybe more iterations of the Hyperfloss. You got me hook, line, and sinker, baby. Hehe.
Watched every second of this video. Terrific content, just how I like it. I am not afraid to sit down and relax for a long informative video such as this one. I would really appreciate a long, in depth video of batteries, as just like you, I have had it with my Turnigy Graphenes and am in search of some very high performance racing batteries that will be suit me. Love watching your vids man, keep the great work up!
Kabab FPV I see. I am sure there are at least a few people willing to watch a 30 minute long video to capture some valuable information. Either that, or they have nothing else better to do while waiting for batteries to charge ;)
Oooh, that big motor looks like fun. I need to get going on my small build before I drool over large stuff. On a side note, I recently got a 270kV motor that's rated for 1500W on 6S that I plan on using for an electric scooter, lol.
I have watched it completly becease there is so much interesting and usfull infos. Thanks for that. Most of my recent build plans are considered based on your advices and information. I hope I will be able to build one of your build (probably the acro frame) in the future. Thanks again.
Watched from start to finish; easy when the content is so good. Love your way of explaining complex ideas in layman's terms. Very excited about those props - ETA on retail production? go well, and fly happy. P.S. I'm sorry; I'm British therefore I don't floss :P
Interesting stuff, I have thought about taking one of my old frames, turning it upside down, and building it that way just for giggles. It's cool that you actually made a design that way. I will agree it didn't come out super pretty, but it's a cool idea. Give it another shot!
Bob first off thanks for the exposure your giving my sponsor China Hobby Line, And I'd fly that frame for shits and giggles. For parts I'd throw on some old school red bottoms and some dys xs30a along with a kiss FC. Of course all these parts are coming from the spare parts drawer.
Just went to my first race with my local chapter today. didn't even try the whole course, but i got some good freestyle in! It's crazy how much more locked in I am after only three days of flying.
Hallo Kabab, I would love to build that frame! I have some spare 2206 2200kV motors, 30A esc's and a F3 controller to put on it. Will then add a Foxeer Arrow or the Foxeer Night Wolf to try out some low light flying too :) I'll finish it with 5" triblades in pusher config (hidden wires & esc's would look awesome!) I have access to a 3D printer so the camera mounts won't be a problem... Chris
I'd throw a F3 board onto that frame, some Emax white tops, and some 30A ESC's onto that thing and just try to rip a rift in time/space wide open. Great video. Looking forward to your monster build!
I only have one or two. It's honestly not really worth anyones time to build. The HyperFloss is much MUCH better. The prototypes are gonna be really cheap and come with a LOT of stuff.
Strix 1550 rock like nothing I've ever seen. Mylipo are variable, but drop super quick at the end. Indestructible quad batteries are somewhere in between the Strix and indestructible quad. For my lightweight rig..I really like the Turnigy 1000mah..amazing little value.
I watch your videos for twenty mins ha. Oh and by the way thankyou for the knowledge you put out. I always learn something from you especially the twisting you talk about at the end of the video, a gentleman and a scholar!!!
I'd love to build that frame - motors mounted upside-down grass cutter style. Battery slung on the bottom instead, use the battery straps ontop for the gopro mount. Camera (Ive a 100TVL CCD came sittign on the shelf ) mounted pointing just upwards- looks like it'd be easy to drill out a mount in the belly pan. And i've some Cobra Race edition 2206 2100kvs from that TBS facebook Closeout sale- that were going to end up on a tricopter otherwise.
Aaaaw.... just when I thought you had found the holy grail of props... the GemFan 5052x3 , now you're all crazy about that new EMAX prop. Well then, awesome. Thanks for sharing and lots of very interesting philosophies about what and how to use setups and combos and I'm glad you settled at 4045 for the 1407. I really hate to see motors getting overpropped. You end up with much more usable/reserve power/torque on a well-matched motor-prop combo
Yeah the 5" was a really dumb idea I had. Knew I could easily knock down to 4" however. The GF5152 was really good and I didn't think it could really get better but holy cow is this prop good. I don't think it's gonna bench test well however. It looks like a prop that needs to be moving. Whatever it is, I cannot even understand how it has such good low speed control AND it's the fastest triblade there is!
I would love to do the build on that frame for my dad so we can fly together! The build would consist of racerstar motors and escs. For the flight controller it would just be some cheap f3 flight controller. For the camera and vtx, it would be the ts5823 vtx and foxeer arrow camera. Not sure on the battery though.
Flu Flu FPV thank you very much. I'll see if there is a second one to send you. I just realized that I forgot about someone that has been following me for quite a while and really really REALLY does need it.
Outstanding and informative video ... thank you for putting it together. I really gained a lot from this. Keep up the outstanding research!! cheers ...
good stuff bud, I had a catastrophic failure yesterday with my new build and the new Betaflight F3 FC that I had to wait a month and a half for is shot now so i'm watching youtube drone videos all day and lamenting over my shit luck. good stuff I really like the honest reviews. I'm going to try the new DYS F4 FC with the DYS aio ESC's for a 5 in build. Hopefully my build doesn't do the harlem shake on the bench again and I actually get it in the air this time.
I definitely watch all your videos to the end. I love your perspective on things. It seems you are on the search for the holy grail of everything and I am very interested in that. I can't afford a lot, so it's good to know what is good quality for what I am paying for.
The electronics that I would use in that frame is the cc3d flight controller,MT2204 2300kv brushless motor,Simonk 12a esc brushless speed controller,5030 propellers and flysky fs t6 Thank
I would use the Brother Hobby Returner R4 2450kv motors, Spedix 30A esc, Betaflight F3 flight controller, runcam swift and of course some Dalprop cyclone v2's because they are the best.
Hi I would love the frame. I would use Racerstar 4in1 30a and the new emax 2307 2700kv motor because I think it's an interesting choice. I think balancing quads is going to be the new thing after weight. I would also use the Diatone F3 w PDB because it's like a cheap Betaflight F3.
Looking at all the multipathing in the video rx footage, I'd say you'd benefit from a Clearview receiver. Great video and thanks for sharing all your info!
Thank you so much for your videos. You are detailing everything I haven't found time to figure out myself. My family lives near SD in Spring Valley and I'll be visiting soon. I would love to link up and learn even more in person if you are flying. P.S. I floss daily because I had a dentist who cared and gave me the habit.
i try to build my frames up and modify them so the center of battery is around the prop disc edges. ive tried above. its ok. below is a bit better but battery suffers. centerline is bang on. i do have a unique frame design that i would like to try and share. i just dont have a cnc... yet.....
I think you got a defective one (foxeer arrow) or it could be the actual filter on the front of the lens. Those lenses have a filter on the front and that front piece unscrews, if it gets loose it will cause vibration in the fpv video. take the lens off, carefully clamp the threads in a vice and try to turn the front cover clockwise with some needle nose. If you hear glass crunching, then it's tight enough! Or just try another lens and you'll know.
so much helpful information. thank you for the hard work you put into those videos can you please do a prop review for 6" props in the future? I'm working on a 6" build right now and don't know which motor KV and 6" props work out the best
I love big motors and big props, it reminds when i was flying my TBS Discovery or my 500 size quadcopter :) So rare to listen to somone who can criticize Fatshark products lol Enjoy your week
I will use the cobra 2207 2450kv motors. The spedix 30A HV escs. The betaflight F3 flight controller. HQ V1S props. TBS unify pro, run cam swift 2 and tattu R-Line 1550mah lipo!
id watch a Q&A about you @kabab. what do you do for a living, how did you get into the hobby, how long have you been in the hobby, where do you see the hobby going in x years... do props really cut butter?
At 22 minutes your talking about the new props.. man.. I have been flying RJX 5048 props. Just cheap ones. But they are so good, and so fast, I cant stand to fly anything else now.. and they have great low speed capabilities. WIN! Those look even better :)
Free frame… I'm looking to transfer out my components from my eachine falcon 180. I don't think that frame is that ugly, but anything would be better than what I have. 5" props is what I need.
With 235mm I like the idea of a six inch build and sticking the battery on the bottom, would have a ton of weight down low tho... (the little antenna hole you put on your frames is tight btw)
When is the Foxeer 16x9 CCD cam coming out? I absolutely love the Monster. It's my goto unless I need a small cam. In those situations, I love the runicam mini..awesome cam too..just not 16x9.
Not 5 weeks...? Blue and orange are in-stock now: www.banggood.com/Foxeer-Monster-V2-1200TVL-CMOS-PAL-NTSC-FPV-Camera-with-OSD-and-Audio-p-1132704.html?rmmds=myorder
Those are the CMOS version. I have several and they're fantastic. He was talking about the CCD version, which should perform even better. Also, for what it's worth, I had a terrible experience with Banggood where a package went missing and they refused to do anything for me. I was a big customer of theirs too without any issues until this occurred. They were incredibly rude and demeaning and never resolved the problem. I never plan to purchase from them ever again. There are plenty of American hobby sites that for a couple bucks more are more reputable like ReadyMadeRC, ReadyToFlyQuads, Amain, HeliDirect, PiroflipRC, etc. Best part is you get your package in a few days. I highly encourage everyone not to buy from Banggood. In the least, don't waste your money on the additional shipping insurance Banggood offers, as it's clearly meaningless. Stepping down from my soapbox.
LA Hover planes have wings and very different props. the props usually have a much steeper pitch and have more effect than a multi rotor thats really in a hover movement all the time.
Hmm interesting! I will build it with R4-2450 motors, XSD30A esc, AIO HGLRC fc, Foxeer monster V2, and TBS Unify :) I will probably design and print an fpv camera and gopro mounts so no problems here :)
Kabab great video I can't wait to get my hands on a 5" hyperfloss frame I bought a few sets of those Emax 2306 motors both 2400kv and 2750kv I threw a set of the 2400kv on my 5" alien and it's not a good fit I have bad vibrations even with soft mount motors and flight controller I tried many different props and tuning pids and still can't get rid of the vibrations they also sag the hell out of my batteries even my Tattu R line 1550 I'm getting about a 2 minute flight anyway I want to try them on a much lighter frame like the hyperfloss frame I think it will be a much better fit I think and I don't know why but a top mount battery quad feels better to me I would like to see you come out with more top mount designs or maybe a frame that can be either top or bottom mount batteries just an idea
With the new props you don't need to worry about bottom mount batt. Also, one of the main benefits of the skinny arm frame is the skinny arms. Props become way more effective. Wait for these new props. I really hope they'll be out very soon.
My quad comes in at 240g dry with T-motor f40pro 2600kv. man i have to say i know exactly what you mean, once your down in that weight class you just cant go back. they fly so nice when your not trying to throw all that extra weight around
Hmmm, that proto frame looks interesting, and I don't know why you shouldn't build it. I can give it a try with 2205 or 2306 emax-motors, dys xsd30av2, betaflight F3, RunCam swift or mini, XSR, KK 5x4x3 props. Would be an interesting test, because of the weight distribution (vs an xframe with battery bottom mounted). I prefer batteries on top! I'm from Belgium (EU), so don't know how much shipping would cost me.
I want that frame so bad! I would put Lumenier 2206 2350kv, Lumenier 30A Dshot ESCs, Lumenier LUX V2, TBS Unify Pro V2, RunCam Swift, and Spektrum Serial Diversity. It seems like an awesome concept.
Ha, I like that frame been wondering about underslung components and the whole top battery cog. I'd throw my spare Fury F3 on it with some Cobra Champion 2205s (if funds appear 2207 2550kv or Oomph 2206 2500kv) and Littlebee 30a escs. Have Eachine vtxs and runcam cams too. :D
I watched for a whole 30 minutes! I've got a few questions for you: I remember you mentioning your job in the past, but I don't remember if you've actually said what you do. Would you mind talking more about what you do when you're not flying quads? What were the parts for your fist quad and if you were starting out again would you change anything about them? I saw you commented on a video by Joshua Bardwell about the RunCam 3 and I was wondering if you were planning on getting one to compare to the gopro yourself?
Wish I could agree with the build quality of the Emax motors. I had 12 of the RS2205s 2600kv and 9 of them had slipping magnets and even broke a shaft on a lite crash. Ended up going back to brother hobby motors for their reliability and strength. Emax was kind enough to send me replacement bells. Just hope they up their build quality of the 2306 motors.
I would put emax red bottoms, (because i have them)not sure about esc. Skitzo Raceflight fc ( because it's the only one I can figure out). Looks interesting. Could do A build video of it all. Anyway, good job, I enjoy your channel. Do the motors go upside down? I'm a build junkie ,i love to build.
I would be honored to build that frame. By the way you definitely can Rip! I enjoyed that footage towards the end. Equipment - Cobra 2204 2300KV - KISS 18A - HQ 5040X3 - PZO420 M - Immersion 600mW Vtx - Spironet - RMRC Seriously Dodo FC Thanks for the videos. Subscribed and Bell
A good 30min vid.. My attention span never lasted this long in other vids.. 😂😂 And I thought somewhere in the beginning was a youtube ad.. i keep trying to look for that yellow bar.. 😂
I Really really would love the frame, it looks unique to me, not ugly. I could work out the camera mounts I'm sure. I have some new parts that have been waiting for a frame as well as a setup in need of a new frame I would probably combo together. An omnibus f3pro with racerstar rs20a v2 4in1 (for now. will be ordering a 35a) & Emax 2206/2300kv motors. Runcam swift, flysky x6b for my turnigy evolution
It would be as a backup/practice quad to replace my 210qav I started with. I have extra parts laying around for a build i never got a frame for. I'm planning to pickup the hyperfloss & had my eyes on the BrotherHobby Returner R4s to upgrade from my rfx185, it flys great but way to fragile, cant land without needing new standoffs lol. The hyperfloss looks like itll be great performance with enough durability that I don't need a pillow to land on or worry about broken electronics if i make a wrong move.
Yeah you're not the only one. About a third of the views watched this video all the way through. I expected maybe 5% to watch it all. So I'm gonna make more videos like this jam packed full of just info when I can. It's easier to make one long video for me than 10 little ones. Saves me time editing and shooting.
Hey man, I was wondering when you reckon the ETA for those hyperfloss frames will be? I just barely missed out on the prototype order, but I am EXTREMELY interested in a 4" build. Anyways I love the content my friend and keep it coming! Thanks!!
Bigger blades do not mean lower speed. WWII aircraft could do over 400 mph and they had 11 foot diameter propellers. It all depends how much power you are dealing with. With enough power a quadcopter with 10 inch+ blades could easily be as fast as a racing miniquad. I don't think it will ever be anywhere close to as nimble as a 5" miniquad, but a large rotor quad could easily be faster than a miniquad in a straight line with the right motors and battery. However, most of the large multirotor props are probably designed for hovering, not racing. So custom props would probably be needed. And the motors of the appropriate size are probably too low KV to be fast since they are designed for endurance hovering. So a custom motor wind will also probably be needed.
Plur307 no offense but there is so much you missed that it's just too much to write here on my phone. planes have wings. naturally move forward. just the power requirements to swing a big blade fast enough to get a multi rotor of large size up to speed is immense. it's not an easy task. the reason I cut the video there is because I knew there would be loads of debate. I figured I'll just build it, test and then discuss with better knowledge and experience.
I know I missed a bunch and I'm not trying to argue with you, love your content here on youtube. But I totally disagree with the concept that larger rotors are by definition slower. They just take much much more power to spin and that becomes less and less feasible from a lipo battery and electric motors as you go up in size. A blackhawk helicopter does not use wings and flies forward much like a multirotor and it can still do 200 mph with a 50 foot rotor. So long as a large rotor has the correct pitch and RPM and the motor has enough power a large rotor can fly all the way up to the practical limit which is when the tips of the prop are going supersonic.
Hey Kabab FPV. Great video. I know I've heard you around the community but I'm new so if this question is silly excuse me...but where do I get the 4" And the 5" frame that you mentioned as your best? And yes, we do listen to your videos. And yes a Q&A session would be interesting. Thanks Kabab. I'll stand by for your directions on where ta buy the two frames.
Interesting as usual...... it is a "lot of stuff" & that big ass motor will look small as the, "Commercial Drone" market tries to lift off? I'd read somewhere about some plans for a "Uber" like delivery using drones & all that but you probably know about getting the licenses for all that when it comes in? I'm not asking for a link cuz I think I already have one but don't apologize for the length of videos. Put it in a table of contents & let it rip..... I dig it..... peace
for the frame i would build a bit of a frankendrone, id run multistar 2306 motors, racestar rs 20amp esc, f3 board of some discription and the biggest props the frame can take. just out of interest, why isnt there more 'under slung' frames like that one. also great content all the way through this video :) keep up the good work
I would put some RMC Rifle motors, some Diatone 30A ESC, and a F4 flight Controller on the frame you would giveaway. I am really good in building miniquads and also my builds are pretty lightweight. I hope I will get this frame!
Those 2204 motors in the picture... When will they be released? It will be interesting to see how those lightweight motors will perform, especially with more modern motor technology that other 2204s lack.
Should be getting the prototypes this week. They're the same build as the other brother hobby motors so super strong magnets, super tight air gaps, super powerful build...lets see how they do.
Lol, I'll make the 235 frame. I'd put RCX SE2205 on KISS ESC (so dipping during punchouts won't happen) on a counterfeit KissFC using Betaflight. Normal HS1177 and Unify Pro.
DUDE! That ugly frame, lol, I'd be ECSTATIC if you sent me that thing. As you've probably been able to tell from my previous comments, I really want to get into stuff that's smaller than my 450mm behemoth, and a sturdy frame like that would be GREAT! I really need to get component selection down, though. I was looking into a smaller build for fun (3 inch?), but getting a frame to get started would definitely get me going into more race-sized stuff. For me, I'm mostly concerned about my Tx Rx setup because of the issues I've had with the stock setup from my Turnigy 9X. I'm a bit busy now to do a full component list, but you'd definitely see that frame on youtube later if you send it my way :) Anyway, happy flying!
LazerLord10 it's yours. email me your address. you will need to figure out an fpv cam mount. a simple printed one or something. I actually designed one to be printed from TPU so I'll email that over as well.
The top speed limiting factor for any moving object in air is drag. Whether this is overcome via amping up the thrust and powering through with a decently aerodynamic big quad or a minimized drag profile decently powered small quad depends on the goals. Larger motors spin less fast on average, but move proportionally more air (with a better drag profile often) at the cost of a higher torque to get em going change speed etc. In short what I'm saying is giant quads going 100+mph is definitely a thing! edit: Ok I lied a bit this is the one I had in mind with top speed of 98.8mph so not quite 100+ but dang near close www.fcracing.com/2017/02/03/freedom-class-v1-0-giant-racing-drone-completes-first-flight-test-records-speed-of-159kph/
First off, that bathtub looking thing is the least practical frame design in that size I could think of. Next, there is nothing in that video that looked faster than ~50mph absolute max and you could hear the thing maxed out throttle at times. It looks like it has zero punch too. Basically, I think the only time that thing might hit 100mph is in a dive straight down. I hope to race it one day so I can run circles around it ...
I love your channel! You have great data, great footage, and you are a sharp analizer. I looked for the "speedX" 4n1 esc you mentioned and couldn't find it online, would you post me a link?
I would like the frame to build a freestyle quad, becouse of the cg ofcourse. I would put full Kiss, rebel 2205 2650kv with the 5152 props. besides that the hs1177. I will design my own camera mount. and cnc it.
I would love to have the frame! I've got emax red bottoms that need to be put to use, and some new d shot capable escs. My fc will be the spracing f3. My equipment isn't high end but I'll still put that fraem to use.
Kabab FPV It's not even the frame design, it's just that it's from you. You're a quad legend and I love your vids. If you have one left I would love it. My friends would go crazy!
Thanks very much. Leave a request for me to sign a frame in your order comments from PiroFlip. That would be better than one of the my off designs. I kinda don't even want that ugly thing to exist.
Great video, man. Love all the information. When you posted the 4" vs 5" fpv videos... what camera's were on those? It looked twice as good as anything I'm flying with. Is it my settings? I use mostly Foxeer and Runcam 600-700tvls.
nice vid! had similar issues with wobbles and shakes in one of my arrow v2's and after changing lens it got better. Then I decided to softmount it (being abit skeptic that it would not cause other issues) and it made everything in the image soo much better. Did you try and switch to another lens?
Nice video and quite interestingly informative even though recently I've only been flying smaller quads. My question is how do you find your profession/other hobbies relating to flying fpv or do you? Example being skateboarding or any extreme sport and flying quads.
Dude! i would totally build that frame for my dad, hes wanted to fly for a while now and although it's hideous he wouldn't care. I would put my old cobra 2204, 20a 4 in 1, and a kiss fc on it. Or i could just make it a frankenquad.
Haven't read all the comments 500 is a big number :) all I have to say is that ncr18650 that you think is fake has a protection circuit on it ... on the negative pole... that's where the difference in height comes from... take the first layer of heat shrink tubing off get the protection circuit off the bottom and the cap off the top and it should be the same height. Bought a couple of those and they do seem like the real deal.
Teodor D yes you're right. someone pointed that out early on. I haven't messed with these cells in a while but I still feel really dumb for forgetting that...
Atm I am only flying a x210 and the problem I have is that I am from Germany and most of the frames come from USA with high shipping cost and customs so I am pretty stuck with the china ones. I would love to have a quality frame! F4 omnibus fc EMax 2205rs motors and Dys ds30a esc A monster fpv cam A normal pdb No hd cam yet And I am using hk Graphene I bought...before you warned us about them
thats not the best 18650 battery, The application the battery is intended to be used will determine the best battery needed. Anyway ill link to where you can all educate yourselves on 18650 batteries.
This person is the Mini Quad Test Bench of 18650 styled batteries, those of you who have these types of batteries and dont know, please take time to have a quick look.
www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/mooch.256958/
The Battery interview with Mooch! What you need to know
ruclips.net/video/KtMRuivHn68/видео.html
Battery Talk With Mooch | Sony VTC5A VS VTC6 | What You Need To Know About Batteries
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That should provide enough educational data so you dont go blow yourself and others around you up.
Thank you. I've pinned this. I feel it's actually a very important topic.
hey thx for responding, yeah its important to make available information that helps us all. Keep up the good work too enjoy listening to your views and watching your channel.
dude try AceHE lipos
Consider LG HG2's. Great for consistent discharge applications with decent capacity. 10 bucks a cell but really good cells!
i go 2 from banggod for 10 , and they kinda works so far
I loved all thirty minutes of that video, and am absolutely blown away by your knowledge of the products and your beautiful frames. Really helping me decide my next build👌
2nd video I have watched of yours and immediately feel like your giving real genuine information not influenced by any obligations. Been close to pulling tbe trigger on getting into building so these videos are great because I want to get it right the first time and not have to find out something sucks the hard way. Appreciate it man, stay genuine.
never cease to amaze me, another phenomenal video yet again sir. I never comment on nobodies video but yours I couldn't resist...great information and thank you.
I don't need the ugly frame but I really wanna build an upside down quad with upside down motors even though it's not practical. Also I'm really really digging the 4" one. That frame but with a 20x20mm center stack I think is the perfect quad
+Samm Sheperd I'll send you a 4" when the prototypes come in. You're not gonna fly anything else anymore. All my other stuff is trash compared to these two.
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How much are your new ghost frames? Or, how much are they GOING to be? Dunno if I wanna build my first quad with them or not. Could you make custom arms that would fit a 4.5 inch prop? Could you hybridize the design with the low top plate and stick through bottom FPV cam design you had on another frame? Any way to do a top mounted battery with the superlites?
I've heard people say upside down motors are much more protected in a crash. But they are more prone to getting caught in grass on takeoff/langing or after crashing...
I wached to the end, I love this type of content! Keep up the good work Kabab, you're pushing this tech to new limits and I LOVE it!
Are you kidding me? I watched every second of the video. Your content is absolutely stellar and the most informative I've ever seen. You're like a god to me, I swear.
Just keep up the amazing work. No one else gets me as excited about quad stuff as you do.
Scír Fahren honestly I really didn't think people would watch 30min of me discussing just whatever I had lying around
That might be true for most people, but you aren't most people. The stuff you have lying around is all really cool stuff! Getting to design and collaborate with others to make new motors? How cool is that? Don't even get me started on the dream of designing frames. And your propeller reviews! It was because of you that I bought my first cyclones, then the new GemFan 5152 PCs that I'm still waiting for in the mail, and now the Emax props that I MUST get when they become available. And I am SOO getting the Hyperfloss once it's officially released. I am going to be broke because of you and I will be smiling the WHOLE time.
well I try to make sure my stuff is reasonably priced at least. $100 frames are ridiculous
It's either the FlightClub Tokio X or the Hyperfloss, But probably the Hyperfloss. I have always been convinced that smaller and lighter is better. And that first video where you ran it on the five inch blades and you did those two punch-outs.. I was instantly in love. I can't waaaaaaiit to see more videos and maybe more iterations of the Hyperfloss. You got me hook, line, and sinker, baby. Hehe.
Watched every second of this video. Terrific content, just how I like it. I am not afraid to sit down and relax for a long informative video such as this one. I would really appreciate a long, in depth video of batteries, as just like you, I have had it with my Turnigy Graphenes and am in search of some very high performance racing batteries that will be suit me. Love watching your vids man, keep the great work up!
I only have one or two. It's honestly not really worth anyones time to build. The HyperFloss is much MUCH better.
Kabab FPV Haha, I think you were meant to make this comment in regards to another comment :)
Well I didn't realize that people would actually watch the whole thing. It's frikin 30 min long! Thought just a few would catch that in the middle.
Kabab FPV I see. I am sure there are at least a few people willing to watch a 30 minute long video to capture some valuable information. Either that, or they have nothing else better to do while waiting for batteries to charge ;)
nope, watching the whole thing through and loving it.
Oooh, that big motor looks like fun. I need to get going on my small build before I drool over large stuff. On a side note, I recently got a 270kV motor that's rated for 1500W on 6S that I plan on using for an electric scooter, lol.
I have watched it completly becease there is so much interesting and usfull infos. Thanks for that.
Most of my recent build plans are considered based on your advices and information.
I hope I will be able to build one of your build (probably the acro frame) in the future.
Thanks again.
Glad you took my advice and asked for the Infinity batteries!
They are really good value and performance
Watched from start to finish; easy when the content is so good. Love your way of explaining complex ideas in layman's terms. Very excited about those props - ETA on retail production? go well, and fly happy.
P.S. I'm sorry; I'm British therefore I don't floss :P
You're going to love those RS2306 motors. Very informative video.
fantastic video. i love the frame concept with the battery/gopro on top. i don't think it's ugly
i do man!i watch your videos even if they are 30 min, i like your technical aproach in your videos. good work keep them coming!
Good stuff Bob. You're really throwing the coal in the hype train here lol. Really looking forward to getting those frames.
Always good information. Love your enthusiasm, as well. Keep it up!
Awesome video as usual can't wait to here more about these super secret props. Hopefully they will be available soon
Many thanks!! Every second was worth it once again. I was just set to buy the monster 2, but now im thinking other wise.
Interesting stuff, I have thought about taking one of my old frames, turning it upside down, and building it that way just for giggles. It's cool that you actually made a design that way. I will agree it didn't come out super pretty, but it's a cool idea. Give it another shot!
Bob first off thanks for the exposure your giving my sponsor China Hobby Line, And I'd fly that frame for shits and giggles. For parts I'd throw on some old school red bottoms and some dys xs30a along with a kiss FC. Of course all these parts are coming from the spare parts drawer.
Just went to my first race with my local chapter today. didn't even try the whole course, but i got some good freestyle in! It's crazy how much more locked in I am after only three days of flying.
Hallo Kabab,
I would love to build that frame!
I have some spare 2206 2200kV motors, 30A esc's and a F3 controller to put on it.
Will then add a Foxeer Arrow or the Foxeer Night Wolf to try out some low light flying too :)
I'll finish it with 5" triblades in pusher config (hidden wires & esc's would look awesome!)
I have access to a 3D printer so the camera mounts won't be a problem...
Chris
I watched all 30 minutes and would have watched another 30, no problem. Thanks for sharing.
I'd throw a F3 board onto that frame, some Emax white tops, and some 30A ESC's onto that thing and just try to rip a rift in time/space wide open. Great video. Looking forward to your monster build!
I only have one or two. It's honestly not really worth anyones time to build. The HyperFloss is much MUCH better. The prototypes are gonna be really cheap and come with a LOT of stuff.
Strix 1550 rock like nothing I've ever seen. Mylipo are variable, but drop super quick at the end. Indestructible quad batteries are somewhere in between the Strix and indestructible quad. For my lightweight rig..I really like the Turnigy 1000mah..amazing little value.
I watch your videos for twenty mins ha. Oh and by the way thankyou for the knowledge you put out. I always learn something from you especially the twisting you talk about at the end of the video, a gentleman and a scholar!!!
I'd love to build that frame - motors mounted upside-down grass cutter style.
Battery slung on the bottom instead, use the battery straps ontop for the gopro mount.
Camera (Ive a 100TVL CCD came sittign on the shelf ) mounted pointing just upwards- looks like it'd be easy to drill out a mount in the belly pan.
And i've some Cobra Race edition 2206 2100kvs from that TBS facebook Closeout sale- that were going to end up on a tricopter otherwise.
Ty for the highlight!
Aaaaw.... just when I thought you had found the holy grail of props... the GemFan 5052x3 , now you're all crazy about that new EMAX prop. Well then, awesome. Thanks for sharing and lots of very interesting philosophies about what and how to use setups and combos and I'm glad you settled at 4045 for the 1407. I really hate to see motors getting overpropped. You end up with much more usable/reserve power/torque on a well-matched motor-prop combo
Yeah the 5" was a really dumb idea I had. Knew I could easily knock down to 4" however. The GF5152 was really good and I didn't think it could really get better but holy cow is this prop good. I don't think it's gonna bench test well however. It looks like a prop that needs to be moving. Whatever it is, I cannot even understand how it has such good low speed control AND it's the fastest triblade there is!
I would love to do the build on that frame for my dad so we can fly together! The build would consist of racerstar motors and escs. For the flight controller it would just be some cheap f3 flight controller. For the camera and vtx, it would be the ts5823 vtx and foxeer arrow camera. Not sure on the battery though.
Flu Flu FPV thank you very much. I'll see if there is a second one to send you. I just realized that I forgot about someone that has been following me for quite a while and really really REALLY does need it.
OK, that would be awesome!
Outstanding and informative video ... thank you for putting it together. I really gained a lot from this.
Keep up the outstanding research!!
cheers ...
good stuff bud, I had a catastrophic failure yesterday with my new build and the new Betaflight F3 FC that I had to wait a month and a half for is shot now so i'm watching youtube drone videos all day and lamenting over my shit luck. good stuff I really like the honest reviews. I'm going to try the new DYS F4 FC with the DYS aio ESC's for a 5 in build. Hopefully my build doesn't do the harlem shake on the bench again and I actually get it in the air this time.
themick817actual lol the Harlem shake is a popular quad dance. I've definitely done that many times in the past.
Man.. I would totally build that 235 frame.. I wish I saw it before I ordered my Hyperlite EVO HD 5" lol! I still would love to.. I love unique stuff
I definitely watch all your videos to the end. I love your perspective on things. It seems you are on the search for the holy grail of everything and I am very interested in that. I can't afford a lot, so it's good to know what is good quality for what I am paying for.
I'm determined to find the best setup I can get. As long as I have access to all this stuff I feel like it's my duty to do so.
Sick flying, you make it look so easy!
The electronics that I would use in that frame is the cc3d flight controller,MT2204 2300kv brushless motor,Simonk 12a esc brushless speed controller,5030 propellers and flysky fs t6
Thank
I would use the Brother Hobby Returner R4 2450kv motors, Spedix 30A esc, Betaflight F3 flight controller, runcam swift and of course some Dalprop cyclone v2's because they are the best.
Hi I would love the frame. I would use Racerstar 4in1 30a and the new emax 2307 2700kv motor because I think it's an interesting choice. I think balancing quads is going to be the new thing after weight. I would also use the Diatone F3 w PDB because it's like a cheap Betaflight F3.
Looking at all the multipathing in the video rx footage, I'd say you'd benefit from a Clearview receiver.
Great video and thanks for sharing all your info!
+Tech2C I would LOVEeeeeeeeeee! A clear view!!! So darn expensive and inconvenient to use.
Thank you so much for your videos. You are detailing everything I haven't found time to figure out myself. My family lives near SD in Spring Valley and I'll be visiting soon. I would love to link up and learn even more in person if you are flying. P.S. I floss daily because I had a dentist who cared and gave me the habit.
That dentist is fantastic. I'm actually up in LA and there's nowhere to fly here unfortunately. Where are you coming from?
Washington D.C.
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Can't wait to here more about those props.
i try to build my frames up and modify them so the center of battery is around the prop disc edges. ive tried above. its ok. below is a bit better but battery suffers. centerline is bang on. i do have a unique frame design that i would like to try and share. i just dont have a cnc... yet.....
I think you got a defective one (foxeer arrow) or it could be the actual filter on the front of the lens. Those lenses have a filter on the front and that front piece unscrews, if it gets loose it will cause vibration in the fpv video. take the lens off, carefully clamp the threads in a vice and try to turn the front cover clockwise with some needle nose. If you hear glass crunching, then it's tight enough! Or just try another lens and you'll know.
Yeah I've seen those issues too. I checked it all. Couldn't find any issues.
I watched the whole video. Great stuff!!
Great content. I'm interested in the ugly frame I've got some Dji snails and Esc I've been looking to put on something with a kiss board
so much helpful information. thank you for the hard work you put into those videos
can you please do a prop review for 6" props in the future? I'm working on a 6" build right now and don't know which motor KV and 6" props work out the best
Well there are only about four 6" props out there and they all pretty much suck due to jello...so I don't do 6" for video
I love big motors and big props, it reminds when i was flying my TBS Discovery or my 500 size quadcopter :)
So rare to listen to somone who can criticize Fatshark products lol
Enjoy your week
Fatshark has never made a good product. EVER. We're all just cursed to only have them as a real option.
I will use the cobra 2207 2450kv motors. The spedix 30A HV escs. The betaflight F3 flight controller. HQ V1S props. TBS unify pro, run cam swift 2 and tattu R-Line 1550mah lipo!
id watch a Q&A about you @kabab. what do you do for a living, how did you get into the hobby, how long have you been in the hobby, where do you see the hobby going in x years... do props really cut butter?
At 22 minutes your talking about the new props.. man.. I have been flying RJX 5048 props. Just cheap ones. But they are so good, and so fast, I cant stand to fly anything else now.. and they have great low speed capabilities. WIN! Those look even better :)
Free frame… I'm looking to transfer out my components from my eachine falcon 180. I don't think that frame is that ugly, but anything would be better than what I have. 5" props is what I need.
With 235mm I like the idea of a six inch build and sticking the battery on the bottom, would have a ton of weight down low tho... (the little antenna hole you put on your frames is tight btw)
Oh I've got a much better MASSIVE option for you coming.
When is the Foxeer 16x9 CCD cam coming out? I absolutely love the Monster. It's my goto unless I need a small cam. In those situations, I love the runicam mini..awesome cam too..just not 16x9.
Supposed to be another 5 weeks.
Not 5 weeks...? Blue and orange are in-stock now: www.banggood.com/Foxeer-Monster-V2-1200TVL-CMOS-PAL-NTSC-FPV-Camera-with-OSD-and-Audio-p-1132704.html?rmmds=myorder
Those are the CMOS version. I have several and they're fantastic. He was talking about the CCD version, which should perform even better.
Also, for what it's worth, I had a terrible experience with Banggood where a package went missing and they refused to do anything for me. I was a big customer of theirs too without any issues until this occurred. They were incredibly rude and demeaning and never resolved the problem.
I never plan to purchase from them ever again. There are plenty of American hobby sites that for a couple bucks more are more reputable like ReadyMadeRC, ReadyToFlyQuads, Amain, HeliDirect, PiroflipRC, etc. Best part is you get your package in a few days.
I highly encourage everyone not to buy from Banggood. In the least, don't waste your money on the additional shipping insurance Banggood offers, as it's clearly meaningless. Stepping down from my soapbox.
I watch your videos entirely... always.... very excited about the new ultralite frames you designed! When will they be available again to order?
Ray Choi we're getting prototype batch 2 early next week and expect the production model to be available in ~3wks
Great content as always. Watch till the end.
lol love the video but... By your theory of larger = slower, tell us why a plane with a much larger prop is faster than a mini quad?
LA Hover planes have wings and very different props. the props usually have a much steeper pitch and have more effect than a multi rotor thats really in a hover movement all the time.
Hmm interesting!
I will build it with R4-2450 motors, XSD30A esc, AIO HGLRC fc, Foxeer monster V2, and TBS Unify :)
I will probably design and print an fpv camera and gopro mounts so no problems here :)
Kabab great video I can't wait to get my hands on a 5" hyperfloss frame I bought a few sets of those Emax 2306 motors both 2400kv and 2750kv I threw a set of the 2400kv on my 5" alien and it's not a good fit I have bad vibrations even with soft mount motors and flight controller I tried many different props and tuning pids and still can't get rid of the vibrations they also sag the hell out of my batteries even my Tattu R line 1550 I'm getting about a 2 minute flight anyway I want to try them on a much lighter frame like the hyperfloss frame I think it will be a much better fit I think and I don't know why but a top mount battery quad feels better to me I would like to see you come out with more top mount designs or maybe a frame that can be either top or bottom mount batteries just an idea
With the new props you don't need to worry about bottom mount batt. Also, one of the main benefits of the skinny arm frame is the skinny arms. Props become way more effective. Wait for these new props. I really hope they'll be out very soon.
My quad comes in at 240g dry with T-motor f40pro 2600kv. man i have to say i know exactly what you mean, once your down in that weight class you just cant go back. they fly so nice when your not trying to throw all that extra weight around
Hmmm, that proto frame looks interesting, and I don't know why you shouldn't build it.
I can give it a try with 2205 or 2306 emax-motors, dys xsd30av2, betaflight F3, RunCam swift or mini, XSR, KK 5x4x3 props.
Would be an interesting test, because of the weight distribution (vs an xframe with battery bottom mounted). I prefer batteries on top!
I'm from Belgium (EU), so don't know how much shipping would cost me.
Oh, and people DO watch your vids till the end, even if 30'... and you got me flossing on a daily basis 😬
dude you're amazing. of course I watched till end.
Thanks for sharing knowledge. I actually appreciate it.
I want that frame so bad! I would put Lumenier 2206 2350kv, Lumenier 30A Dshot ESCs, Lumenier LUX V2, TBS Unify Pro V2, RunCam Swift, and Spektrum Serial Diversity. It seems like an awesome concept.
Sure, i watch all of your videos! Every minute! My project and answers go on.. hm Air Gear 200? as light as 1608, but more oomph low kv or high?
Ha, I like that frame been wondering about underslung components and the whole top battery cog. I'd throw my spare Fury F3 on it with some Cobra Champion 2205s (if funds appear 2207 2550kv or Oomph 2206 2500kv) and Littlebee 30a escs. Have Eachine vtxs and runcam cams too. :D
I watched for a whole 30 minutes! I've got a few questions for you: I remember you mentioning your job in the past, but I don't remember if you've actually said what you do. Would you mind talking more about what you do when you're not flying quads? What were the parts for your fist quad and if you were starting out again would you change anything about them? I saw you commented on a video by Joshua Bardwell about the RunCam 3 and I was wondering if you were planning on getting one to compare to the gopro yourself?
I won't be getting a Runcam, it's of no use to me. I'm actually a Dentist and I'll answer the others in another video. Good questions, thanks.
Another great video as always 👍
Wish I could agree with the build quality of the Emax motors. I had 12 of the RS2205s 2600kv and 9 of them had slipping magnets and even broke a shaft on a lite crash. Ended up going back to brother hobby motors for their reliability and strength. Emax was kind enough to send me replacement bells. Just hope they up their build quality of the 2306 motors.
That was the old motor. This one is MASSIVE improvement.
Kabab FPV Good to know. Really want to try these! Was just skeptical.
I'll have a video on them in 2 weeks when I'll have a build with them on it.
Gimmie 2 weeks. I'll have a video on the motors. Just waiting for the carbon to come in to build with.
I want it..I want to try the DJI snail motors with the snail wax but with a card borad
I would put emax red bottoms, (because i have them)not sure about esc. Skitzo Raceflight fc ( because it's the only one I can figure out). Looks interesting. Could do A build video of it all. Anyway, good job, I enjoy your channel. Do the motors go upside down? I'm a build junkie ,i love to build.
Damn you have some nice setups!!
I would be honored to build that frame.
By the way you definitely can Rip!
I enjoyed that footage towards the end.
Equipment
- Cobra 2204 2300KV
- KISS 18A
- HQ 5040X3
- PZO420 M
- Immersion 600mW Vtx
- Spironet
- RMRC Seriously Dodo FC
Thanks for the videos. Subscribed and Bell
A good 30min vid.. My attention span never lasted this long in other vids.. 😂😂 And I thought somewhere in the beginning was a youtube ad.. i keep trying to look for that yellow bar.. 😂
I watch your vids all the way through, and don't worry I floss too:)
I Really really would love the frame, it looks unique to me, not ugly. I could work out the camera mounts I'm sure.
I have some new parts that have been waiting for a frame as well as a setup in need of a new frame I would probably combo together. An omnibus f3pro with racerstar rs20a v2 4in1 (for now. will be ordering a 35a) & Emax 2206/2300kv motors. Runcam swift, flysky x6b for my turnigy evolution
Think I'll have to check out that spedix 4 in 1 30A instead
Really not worth your time, pickup a prototype hyperfloss instead. It's gonna be really cheap and comes with a LOT of stuff...
It would be as a backup/practice quad to replace my 210qav I started with. I have extra parts laying around for a build i never got a frame for. I'm planning to pickup the hyperfloss & had my eyes on the BrotherHobby Returner R4s to upgrade from my rfx185, it flys great but way to fragile, cant land without needing new standoffs lol. The hyperfloss looks like itll be great performance with enough durability that I don't need a pillow to land on or worry about broken electronics if i make a wrong move.
You are killing it.
well, wow that half hour went by quick lol! first video i've seen of yours, neat stuff! I'd love to design my own frame lol. subbed. great work!
Yeah you're not the only one. About a third of the views watched this video all the way through. I expected maybe 5% to watch it all. So I'm gonna make more videos like this jam packed full of just info when I can. It's easier to make one long video for me than 10 little ones. Saves me time editing and shooting.
Hey man, I was wondering when you reckon the ETA for those hyperfloss frames will be? I just barely missed out on the prototype order, but I am EXTREMELY interested in a 4" build. Anyways I love the content my friend and keep it coming! Thanks!!
Next week we should get the prototype shipment for sale
Bigger blades do not mean lower speed. WWII aircraft could do over 400 mph and they had 11 foot diameter propellers. It all depends how much power you are dealing with. With enough power a quadcopter with 10 inch+ blades could easily be as fast as a racing miniquad. I don't think it will ever be anywhere close to as nimble as a 5" miniquad, but a large rotor quad could easily be faster than a miniquad in a straight line with the right motors and battery. However, most of the large multirotor props are probably designed for hovering, not racing. So custom props would probably be needed. And the motors of the appropriate size are probably too low KV to be fast since they are designed for endurance hovering. So a custom motor wind will also probably be needed.
Plur307 no offense but there is so much you missed that it's just too much to write here on my phone. planes have wings. naturally move forward. just the power requirements to swing a big blade fast enough to get a multi rotor of large size up to speed is immense. it's not an easy task. the reason I cut the video there is because I knew there would be loads of debate. I figured I'll just build it, test and then discuss with better knowledge and experience.
I know I missed a bunch and I'm not trying to argue with you, love your content here on youtube. But I totally disagree with the concept that larger rotors are by definition slower. They just take much much more power to spin and that becomes less and less feasible from a lipo battery and electric motors as you go up in size. A blackhawk helicopter does not use wings and flies forward much like a multirotor and it can still do 200 mph with a 50 foot rotor. So long as a large rotor has the correct pitch and RPM and the motor has enough power a large rotor can fly all the way up to the practical limit which is when the tips of the prop are going supersonic.
Hey Kabab FPV. Great video. I know I've heard you around the community but I'm new so if this question is silly excuse me...but where do I get the 4"
And the 5" frame that you mentioned as your best?
And yes, we do listen to your videos. And yes a Q&A session would be interesting.
Thanks Kabab. I'll stand by for your directions on where ta buy the two frames.
Well they're my own design to I get them from me :-)
Interesting as usual...... it is a "lot of stuff" & that big ass motor will look small as
the, "Commercial Drone" market tries to lift off? I'd read somewhere about some
plans for a "Uber" like delivery using drones & all that but you probably know about
getting the licenses for all that when it comes in? I'm not asking for a link cuz I
think I already have one but don't apologize for the length of videos. Put it in a
table of contents & let it rip..... I dig it..... peace
for the frame i would build a bit of a frankendrone, id run multistar 2306 motors, racestar rs 20amp esc, f3 board of some discription and the biggest props the frame can take. just out of interest, why isnt there more 'under slung' frames like that one. also great content all the way through this video :) keep up the good work
I would put some RMC Rifle motors, some Diatone 30A ESC, and a F4 flight Controller on the frame you would giveaway. I am really good in building miniquads and also my builds are pretty lightweight. I hope I will get this frame!
Do it yourself I have something much better coming for you
Those 2204 motors in the picture... When will they be released? It will be interesting to see how those lightweight motors will perform, especially with more modern motor technology that other 2204s lack.
Should be getting the prototypes this week. They're the same build as the other brother hobby motors so super strong magnets, super tight air gaps, super powerful build...lets see how they do.
Great stuff Bob !
i noticed that propellers of the two zippy ones are mounted in opposite way from the normal setup
Lol, I'll make the 235 frame. I'd put RCX SE2205 on KISS ESC (so dipping during punchouts won't happen) on a counterfeit KissFC using Betaflight. Normal HS1177 and Unify Pro.
I run 6S on the EMax white tops 2400kv all the time. They get very hot when the weather is near or above 90 degrees though
DUDE! That ugly frame, lol, I'd be ECSTATIC if you sent me that thing. As you've probably been able to tell from my previous comments, I really want to get into stuff that's smaller than my 450mm behemoth, and a sturdy frame like that would be GREAT!
I really need to get component selection down, though. I was looking into a smaller build for fun (3 inch?), but getting a frame to get started would definitely get me going into more race-sized stuff. For me, I'm mostly concerned about my Tx Rx setup because of the issues I've had with the stock setup from my Turnigy 9X. I'm a bit busy now to do a full component list, but you'd definitely see that frame on youtube later if you send it my way :)
Anyway, happy flying!
LazerLord10 it's yours. email me your address. you will need to figure out an fpv cam mount. a simple printed one or something. I actually designed one to be printed from TPU so I'll email that over as well.
cool, dude! Thanks a ton.
The top speed limiting factor for any moving object in air is drag. Whether this is overcome via amping up the thrust and powering through with a decently aerodynamic big quad or a minimized drag profile decently powered small quad depends on the goals. Larger motors spin less fast on average, but move proportionally more air (with a better drag profile often) at the cost of a higher torque to get em going change speed etc.
In short what I'm saying is giant quads going 100+mph is definitely a thing!
edit: Ok I lied a bit this is the one I had in mind with top speed of 98.8mph so not quite 100+ but dang near close
www.fcracing.com/2017/02/03/freedom-class-v1-0-giant-racing-drone-completes-first-flight-test-records-speed-of-159kph/
First off, that bathtub looking thing is the least practical frame design in that size I could think of. Next, there is nothing in that video that looked faster than ~50mph absolute max and you could hear the thing maxed out throttle at times. It looks like it has zero punch too. Basically, I think the only time that thing might hit 100mph is in a dive straight down. I hope to race it one day so I can run circles around it ...
I love your channel! You have great data, great footage, and you are a sharp analizer. I looked for the "speedX" 4n1 esc you mentioned and couldn't find it online, would you post me a link?
It's not out yet. Should be available from pirofliprc.com tomorrow.
I would like the frame to build a freestyle quad, becouse of the cg ofcourse. I would put full Kiss, rebel 2205 2650kv with the 5152 props. besides that the hs1177. I will design my own camera mount. and cnc it.
I would love to have the frame! I've got emax red bottoms that need to be put to use, and some new d shot capable escs. My fc will be the spracing f3. My equipment isn't high end but I'll still put that fraem to use.
I only have one or two. It's honestly not really worth anyones time to build. The HyperFloss is much MUCH better.
Kabab FPV It's not even the frame design, it's just that it's from you. You're a quad legend and I love your vids. If you have one left I would love it. My friends would go crazy!
Thanks very much. Leave a request for me to sign a frame in your order comments from PiroFlip. That would be better than one of the my off designs. I kinda don't even want that ugly thing to exist.
Kabab FPV Thanks kabab!
Great video, man. Love all the information. When you posted the 4" vs 5" fpv videos... what camera's were on those? It looked twice as good as anything I'm flying with. Is it my settings? I use mostly Foxeer and Runcam 600-700tvls.
Tanner Dns I only use the foxeer monster 1200tvl 16:9 cameras. they're far better than any 600tvl anything
Kabab FPV dude, it's beautiful. sadly I have Dom v2s
nice vid! had similar issues with wobbles and shakes in one of my arrow v2's and after changing lens it got better. Then I decided to softmount it (being abit skeptic that it would not cause other issues) and it made everything in the image soo much better. Did you try and switch to another lens?
Nice video and quite interestingly informative even though recently I've only been flying smaller quads. My question is how do you find your profession/other hobbies relating to flying fpv or do you? Example being skateboarding or any extreme sport and flying quads.
Well I'm a dentist, so it's got absolutely nothing to do with dentistry.
Dude! i would totally build that frame for my dad, hes wanted to fly for a while now and although it's hideous he wouldn't care. I would put my old cobra 2204, 20a 4 in 1, and a kiss fc on it. Or i could just make it a frankenquad.
Haven't read all the comments 500 is a big number :) all I have to say is that ncr18650 that you think is fake has a protection circuit on it ... on the negative pole... that's where the difference in height comes from... take the first layer of heat shrink tubing off get the protection circuit off the bottom and the cap off the top and it should be the same height. Bought a couple of those and they do seem like the real deal.
Teodor D yes you're right. someone pointed that out early on. I haven't messed with these cells in a while but I still feel really dumb for forgetting that...
Atm I am only flying a x210 and the problem I have is that I am from Germany and most of the frames come from USA with high shipping cost and customs so I am pretty stuck with the china ones.
I would love to have a quality frame!
F4 omnibus fc
EMax 2205rs motors and Dys ds30a esc
A monster fpv cam
A normal pdb
No hd cam yet
And I am using hk Graphene I bought...before you warned us about them
I have the same problem with my runcam swift. Other cameras don't have the problem though