Voidfall - Kickstarter Preview

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @jamiewallis2797
    @jamiewallis2797 3 года назад +8

    You guys are ALWAYS my go to RUclips channel for play-throughs and rules explanations. Fantastic job on Voidfall.

  • @jesseirwin2607
    @jesseirwin2607 3 года назад +7

    That thing where you put the card massive on the screen is the coolest little aspect of this video. Never seen that before :D

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +2

      Hi Jesse thanks! We will try to use it whenever we can :-)

  • @Designsy-wl9nr
    @Designsy-wl9nr 3 года назад +4

    I love the greenscreen to see the cards up close! Nice!

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! We will continue to try and use it whenever we can.

  • @luispena8883
    @luispena8883 3 года назад +27

    Hi Guys! Are you going to do a playthrough of this game? Your playthrough are the best! You don’t only teach but have a lot of fun and it shows, it is contagious! Really looking forward to back this game. Looks awesone

    • @samiamagaimagain
      @samiamagaimagain 3 года назад +1

      I agree!

    • @SteveLEKORodrigue
      @SteveLEKORodrigue 3 года назад +6

      For me, a play through would help understand how everything ties together. Honestly, this game looks convoluted and the iconography is way too dense: so many things on each card... is it only me that feels like that?

    • @Drewkas0
      @Drewkas0 3 года назад +1

      @@SteveLEKORodrigue I agree, Steve. I’m a fan of heavy games, but I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it all comes together once you get into it. A playthrough would certainly help.

    • @Mr.OwlGamer
      @Mr.OwlGamer 3 года назад +1

      I also hope you guys do a play through. Urs are the best!

    • @shinjial
      @shinjial 3 года назад

      There are videos up on Gaming Rules channel. They’ll help.
      That said, I do hope they get their own playthrough rolling.

  • @jesseirwin2607
    @jesseirwin2607 3 года назад +4

    Thanks so much for the insights !
    Excellent preview - loved the summary, its really helped me confidently back this game. Looks amazing

  • @SteveRB511
    @SteveRB511 3 года назад +6

    There is a lot to grasp here. My initial reaction to this was that it was too fiddly for me to be immersed in a thematic experience (as opposed to the fiddly aspects of Kanban EV was immersive to the point that I might as well go to work instead of playing a game).
    However, the art and graphic design of Voidfall really draws me in so I ended up repeating segments of this review a number of times for clarifications. The more I watched, the more I appreciated the game mechanics presented as well as the work the developers put into the graphic design and iconography.
    Voidfall is probably too heavy for the people I game with but, if nothing else, the overall game design and presentation may lead me to back it in much the same way as one collects works of art.
    Great review of what seems to be a very involved and interesting game.

  • @GamingRulesVideos
    @GamingRulesVideos 3 года назад +19

    Great job, as always

  • @stevegeorge7773
    @stevegeorge7773 3 года назад +6

    Your getting very sophisticated with your ongoing growth. Very swish close up camera set up in this promo. This is the Dune of this year's games one feels. This is a great effort!

  • @TimChuon
    @TimChuon 3 года назад +1

    Omg yes SO excited for voidfall!! Was interested in backing this one but your breakdown definitely sealed the deal-it’s interesting to see the juggling mechanic and how prioritizing focus cards/upkeep each round plays a huge role. loved the breakdown friends! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад

      Hi Tim, hope you've been doing well!! Glad you found the video helpful. :-)

  • @GreySectoid
    @GreySectoid 6 месяцев назад

    As a new owner of the game this was an excellent rundown of the rules, exactly how I teach games to my friends. Not sure why other channels make it sound so complicated and boring, this was right up my alley.

  • @oliviagabbay
    @oliviagabbay 3 года назад

    This was an extremely helpful preview and it's what pushed me over the edge to back it.

  • @mattsbalgard4276
    @mattsbalgard4276 3 года назад +1

    Excellent and concise overview! Very impressive! I love the close up shots of the set up and individual cards. It helps a ton.
    I followed the designer diaries on BGG, but found it hard to grasp how the different aspects of the game blended together. You cleared that fog for me. It is still a hurdle to learn the iconography though. Ian O'Toole's graphic design is good, but busy. Anachrony is similar in that regard - a lot of icons to decipher and get familiar with.

  • @chandramohan5105
    @chandramohan5105 3 года назад +1

    Wow! An Intergalactic Sci-Fi game. You both are amazing.

  • @Olvenskol
    @Olvenskol 3 года назад +3

    It looks like a Vidal Lacerda game if he designed anything that allowed for more than one action per turn :p Excellent overview! A lot to cover in a short time.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад

      HAHA totally!!!

    • @michalpeichl9098
      @michalpeichl9098 3 года назад +1

      @@BeforeYouPlay Mabye the reason is the graphic designer of Voidfall is Ian O’Toole who makes graphics and illustrations for the most of Lacerda’s games.

  • @areyal26
    @areyal26 3 года назад

    Finally a video where I can understand a little of what is going on in this game!

  • @Chereebers
    @Chereebers 3 года назад +1

    I’m not sure if I’d ever get this to the table due to its complexity but wow Ian O’Toole knocked it out of the park. Very appealing visually.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад

      Ian O'Toole is just so dang talented!

  • @PaulMB40
    @PaulMB40 3 года назад +1

    Subscribed based on this engaging and thorough review.

  • @annereynolds7930
    @annereynolds7930 3 года назад +7

    I am hoping you do a playthrough - even if it's just a round or two. I am finding it difficult to follow how this game plays without seeing it in action.

    • @Faent89
      @Faent89 3 года назад

      SUPER confusing and very punishing if you fall behind, same as Anachrony. Not a fan. Fractal: Beyond the Void is launching next week, now THAT game I can get behind. I hope they do a review for that game.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад

      Hi Anne that totally makes sense. We had quite the challenge trying to condense all the core concepts into this video. We unfortunately won't be doing a playthrough (at least with the prototype) since we had to pass it along to someone else after we filmed our video. :-(

    • @annereynolds7930
      @annereynolds7930 3 года назад

      @@BeforeYouPlay Totally understood. I own and love all of Mindclash's other games, but this one more than the others seems to be difficult for me to grasp the basic structure of the game up front. I'd still love to see a playthrough from you in the future!

  • @ChristopherLMunoz
    @ChristopherLMunoz 3 года назад +1

    So well explained, makes my life so much easier. Thanks for that 😊

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад

      Happy to hear that, you are very welcome!

  • @wsiegel9539
    @wsiegel9539 3 года назад +6

    I love Mindclash and this was an instant back for me. Having a solo mode was also great as now I can fully learn the game before trying to teach others..lol Great job with the overview.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +2

      They are such a great company! You’re right that having a solo mode will make playing with other that much smoother as you already know the pieces and lingo. This game has a good amount of new lingo.

  • @bryanscollick8305
    @bryanscollick8305 3 года назад +2

    I am getting some Gaia Project vibes from this game with all the different ways of scoring, but it looks like this is more interactive with the board and with other players.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +2

      Kind of similar, I know that in the final version of the game the players will have some asymmetry (like Gaia Project).

  • @anneperez7731
    @anneperez7731 3 года назад +1

    This game is cool! Hope you guys please do a playthrough!

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад

      We unfortunately won't be doing a playthrough as we had to pass our prototype along to someone else. :-(

    • @anneperez7731
      @anneperez7731 3 года назад

      @@BeforeYouPlay Awww... 🥺 But... Okay...😔 I'll be waiting for a new playthrough thank you very much 😘

  • @CorvusLudos
    @CorvusLudos 6 месяцев назад

    Very thorough video. Subscribed.

  • @jareduxr
    @jareduxr 3 года назад +1

    Great preview from one of my favorite duos, you rose to the challenge! I do like the way you support each other and your style of videos but you may want to limit the short confirmations when one person is talking. I find it a little distracting and it doesn't really add much, then again I'm easily distracted lol

    • @ChrisCypher
      @ChrisCypher 3 года назад

      I agree. I love their videos, but Naveen's confirmations are always mildly distracting to me too. I assume it's him feeling anxious or wanting to be useful. ha. (no offense, Naveen). It'd be nice maybe if he increased his role in demonstrating the visual aspects as she provides the explanation.

  • @Mixxathon
    @Mixxathon Год назад

    Would love to see a playthrough when the game is released in the wild.

  • @LenLindsay
    @LenLindsay 3 года назад +2

    The dials look great ... do they maintain their settings even as you move the dial panel around? (ie, the numbers don't shift when shaken)?

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +1

      Hi Len, we had a prototype copy of the game so the quality of the wheels were not very good. The publisher is fully aware of the prototype quality and I'd bet money that the final product will be quality like their other titles. Hope that helps!

  • @hedgeymcgee3079
    @hedgeymcgee3079 3 года назад +3

    Great preview! How does it play with 2 players? I mostly play just with my wife. Any thoughts comparing Voidfall to Eclipse for 2 players? I’ve been looking at getting Eclipse.

    • @petergross7235
      @petergross7235 3 года назад

      The co-op mode might be fun for couples, but they didn't go into that in this preview.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +1

      Hi there, we only got to play a full 3-Player game when prepping for this video. Unfortunatley neither of us have tried Eclipse to it's hard to compare the two titles. :-(
      There is a co-op mode, however we weren't provided with the materials in the prototype to test it all out.

  • @terrytoriq
    @terrytoriq 3 года назад +7

    This game doesn’t grabs me that much. It’s definitely pretty tho. I love the player boards production.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +1

      That's totally fair, there's quite a bit going on in this one. :-)

  • @ylein6508
    @ylein6508 3 года назад +1

    Would like your views on Voidfall compared to on Mars or Gaia project. Which one do you prefer and why?

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +1

      We only played Voidfall once in prep for this video so it's hard to say (plus we weren't provided with the co-op scenario), but On Mars and Gaia Project are 2 of our favorite games of all time.

  • @coyotemoon722
    @coyotemoon722 3 года назад +4

    I love Anachrony 💜

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад

      We need to play it a few more times. Naveen has only tried it once.

    • @mattsbalgard4276
      @mattsbalgard4276 3 года назад

      Scoring the agenda cards work exactly like the evacuation criteria in Anachrony

  • @terryskinner5436
    @terryskinner5436 3 года назад +2

    In a nutshell, you say... that is one helluva nut.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +1

      The shell is quite large for this one lol

  • @mickaelmouret682
    @mickaelmouret682 3 года назад

    Hi both,
    What a great presentation, dynamic and exciting as you seems to be fully convince by this game.
    I'm just having a question for the 2 player setup, I think you mentioned it but as my mother tongue is not English, I prefer to ask you confirmation. I've understood that for 2 players and I assume that it is the same for all configurations, the number of tiles with not be increased during the game at all? Or is there any action via cards allowing players to add tiles and so increase the space I would say?
    Thanks a lot for your confirmation on this

    • @nigelbuckle3759
      @nigelbuckle3759 3 года назад

      No the map is never extended during play, you set it up at the start and it remains fixed.

  • @alexandrasimits9838
    @alexandrasimits9838 3 года назад

    Black is my least favourite colour in board games and being a space fan, I feel I always have to compromise when I lay the usual black tiles on the table (Gaia Project, Xia, Twilight Imperium). But then you can leave it to Ian O'Toole to make a space game look like proper eye candy! First Black Angel, now this! He's such a legend, his games are the gems of my collection.

  • @boardgamebonkers
    @boardgamebonkers 3 года назад +3

    I wonder how you would rate this game compaired to others you really like? It looks quite complex and seems a bit disjointed in some places and not as smooth as others games. What are your thoughts on that and if this is better than Anachrony?

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +2

      We unfortunately didn't get to play the game more than once so it's hard to rate the game. We discussed the game after our play and learned from our mistakes. Hard to compare to Anachrony (Only played once a few years ago). Monique prefers Voidfall but we haven't played with the Anachrony expansions yet.

  • @doggyaugie
    @doggyaugie 3 года назад +1

    been hoping you guys would play Imperium from the same designers!

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +1

      We have them but have yet to play them. We've heard from several people that they are very good!

  • @SirThecos
    @SirThecos 3 года назад +1

    I'm not really a 4X fan but this game looks pretty slick. Keeping my eye on it. 👀

  • @henribcosta
    @henribcosta 3 года назад +1

    Are you planning on doing a full playthrough of it? And also, where do you track your scores? Haha

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад

      Hi Henrique, we unfortunately won't be doing a playthrough as we had to pass our prototype along to someone else. Score is kept track on a personal handheld "influence" wheel.

  • @lankinwelder4328
    @lankinwelder4328 2 года назад

    Do I ever need to use a secondary resource to follow stuff. Like a pad of paper

  • @grpap
    @grpap 3 года назад +1

    Hey Before you play! Big fan of your videos even if I rarely comment. Not related to this video but as this is you most recent one I will ask here. Haven't you made a Nova Luna playthrough in the past? I am pretty sure I remember it, but there does not seem to exist anymore? Or I remember completely wrong? Was really looking for it as I am thinking to get the game. Thank
    you.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +1

      Hi Greg, we haven't played on video Nova Luna, but we did cover a game called Sagani (Nova Luna's spiritual successor). Hope that helps!

    • @grpap
      @grpap 3 года назад +1

      @@BeforeYouPlay Wow! You are right. Just quickly looked at your video for sagani, and indeed that's what I confused in my memory as Nova luna 🙈🙈. These small discs and the tiles look similar between the two. Thank you 🙂

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +1

      @@grpap Absolutely, glad we could help!

  • @TheBenjamin
    @TheBenjamin 3 года назад

    The soundtrack at the beginning was great! What's the song?

  • @Axel_Vrarimor
    @Axel_Vrarimor 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for the presenation, it is really nice to hear you go over a big game. Are you going to make a full playthrough with the prototype or will you wait until 2023 when the final version is ready?

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +1

      We unfortunately won't be doing a playthrough as we had to pass our prototype along to someone else. Maybe in 2023 though!! haha

  • @zerogravity711
    @zerogravity711 3 года назад +1

    Great video!

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад

      Thanks Jason! Let's play games!!!

    • @zerogravity711
      @zerogravity711 3 года назад

      @@BeforeYouPlay I miss playing with you both! Can't wait!!

  • @RashmeetPanesar
    @RashmeetPanesar 3 года назад +3

    Clicked on this so fast

  • @kumarhuris4908
    @kumarhuris4908 3 года назад

    Is it possible to tell us the box size? It would be a pleasure

  • @clonitza
    @clonitza 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the overview, it solidified my decision not to back it, components are lovely but the way it plays, without combat randomness, it will be just another cold war game.
    Fortunately there's another 4x solo in space launching soon :)

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад

      Fair enough, glad we could help out!

  • @ToddyZikaa
    @ToddyZikaa 3 года назад +1

    How do this game scale in 2 players?

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад

      We've only played a full game with 3 players, but the hexes are reduced as well as the technologies are less abundant. We can't speak on the co-op version though as we didn't have the materials in our prototype.

  • @FelipeRodrigues-vj1zb
    @FelipeRodrigues-vj1zb 3 года назад +1

    Great video but this is an easy pass for me, it's just too complex, I don't think my group would be excited to play it. I'm just going to stay with Tiny Epic Galaxies hahaha

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +1

      Hi Felipe, glad we could help you make a decision! This one has a ton of moving parts :-)

  • @justinrrizzo
    @justinrrizzo 3 года назад

    Wait. So that first round only had 4 actions? So it's possible you'll only be taking 12ish actions per game? In a 4X game?

    • @nigelbuckle3759
      @nigelbuckle3759 3 года назад

      @justin Rizzo - each card is 2 (or 3 actions) and in cycle 1: you'll play 4 or 5 cards, cycle 2: 4 to 6 and cycle 3: 5 to 7.

  • @gregbroxterman
    @gregbroxterman 3 года назад +1

    Great overview, as always! So.. the combat is mostly taking turns removing cubes? Is there anything to prevent you from using a tiny ship to remove an opponents giant ship's cube?

    • @davidturczi5713
      @davidturczi5713 3 года назад +1

      yeah, the giant ship's ability, absorbing a shot :)

    • @davidturczi5713
      @davidturczi5713 3 года назад +1

      now if you bring 3 tiny ships to shoot down my 1 giant ship, i will be in trouble :)

    • @ChrisCypher
      @ChrisCypher 3 года назад

      I recall each of the ships having special abilities which may factor in as well.

  • @PEELS27
    @PEELS27 3 года назад

    I have 2 concerns before backing: First the production dials. I know this is a prototype but I hope they will fix that because for now they look made of cheap carton. Then my biggest concern here is the agenda cards. There's a lot of stuff going on those cards with all the icons, especially the last card showed by Monique. Some players will need a magnifying glass to see all the icons. To me the board and the cards are overly produced. Well I still have 9 days to change my mind...And the walls, are they nails buffer?

  • @shawnpolluch3510
    @shawnpolluch3510 2 года назад +1

    I love how you two are not scared to get your hands dirty on super heavy complex games

  • @ObviouslyCrap
    @ObviouslyCrap 3 года назад +2

    0:10 It's so strange to me that Anachrony and Trickerion are the two most mentioned games from MCG, and yet Cerebria - incl.. its expansion - is such an excellent Mindclash game. Why is that? Is there something about Cerebria that makes it less interesting, less.playable, less enjoyable, less unique than the other two?

    • @davidturczi5713
      @davidturczi5713 3 года назад +2

      I LOVE CEREBRIA :)

    • @ObviouslyCrap
      @ObviouslyCrap 3 года назад

      @@davidturczi5713 And I. More than any other Mindclash Game. Cerebria is really one of a kind, both thematically and mechanically.

    • @Hahahahaaahaahaa
      @Hahahahaaahaahaa 3 года назад

      Just marketing, the first two are rated MUCH higher on BGG's list, so if people google them it's a better impression. Experienced boardgamers might know that the "top 100" list is a little sus, to say the least, but if you're a business and you want people to plug your games, your going to go for a top 50 over a sub-800 anyday.

    • @Honsyu_YT
      @Honsyu_YT 3 года назад

      Cerebria is incredible game and all, but it just doesn't work as 2-3 players, only for 4 or 6 with expansion, and it's even more complex because of confrontation so you always need to keep an eye on opponents instead of making some plan and sometimes correcting it according to their actions. Very exhausting to play even as "first play" rules (with almost zero asymmetry), and yeah, even though I enjoyed it, I'm not sure if I wanna another.

    • @jamessendy8131
      @jamessendy8131 3 года назад

      Cerebria is super close to being my favourite Mindclash game, just slightly lower then Trickerion for me, but it does have my favourite solo mode out of the Mindclash titles.

  • @JonTripp115
    @JonTripp115 3 года назад +1

    Monique: "Everything you see here is going to be an extremely condensed version..."
    The only other video I've seen posted is Heavy Cardboard's 5-hour playthrough, so "condensed" sounds right. 😅

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад

      Yeah, it was quite a bit to try and cram into a 20-25 minute preview video.

  • @nicolajohnson1887
    @nicolajohnson1887 2 года назад

    Eclipse 2nd edition is my favourite 4x game and it's fairly complex, But voidfall looks bewildering, I also dislike the artwork.

  • @matissmatiss3126
    @matissmatiss3126 3 года назад +2

    The game looks pretty, but anything else.. where comes the fun on playing this game? Combat seems week to be honest, and not exciting at all. Anything else is accountancy, keeping track of dials, pushing cubes, upkeep, idk. Seems really a lot of work there. Gameplay seems dull, and 4x is just there for marketing. I hoped better of this. :/
    Maybe I’m wrong, and I would love to see how it plays, couple of rounds at least. :)

    • @timwanger4491
      @timwanger4491 3 года назад +5

      Welcome to the beautiful world of Euro games! 😍 So happy to finally get a 4x game without any randomness.

    • @davidturczi5713
      @davidturczi5713 3 года назад +3

      As Tim said... welcome to euro games. Do you enjoy games like: Kanban EV? Through the Ages? Trickerion? Spirit Island? if these sound "boring" to you, then without a doubt, Voidfall is not for you (and that's okay).

    • @matissmatiss3126
      @matissmatiss3126 3 года назад +2

      @@davidturczi5713 I did not like Spirit Island, but I do love Through the Ages a lot.
      But yes, I just watched 3p playtrough which you did together with Paul. It gives much better understanding of the game, how the game flows, what are our options, etc. Looks really, really good once I saw it in action. Hopefully Before You Play will also be allowed to do a playtrough as they are one of the best channels at that. :)
      Btw, what are the differences between the factions other than names and artwork? And where are the Explore of the 4x in this game as all tiles are already explored and no new will be added ? Thanks.

    • @Hahahahaaahaahaa
      @Hahahahaaahaahaa 3 года назад +1

      @@matissmatiss3126 what are the differences between the factions other than names and artwork? And where are the Explore of the 4x in this game as all tiles are already explored and no new will be added ?
      My understanding is that the factions are the same for the demo but will change with the final product and you're right! it looks like a pretty solid 3x at best (although even that is ambiguous). But it's definitely a game all it's own, not really anything else quite like it, which is the appeal . Played on TTS and seems solid, although iconography (and the rulebook) are a hell of a thing to get used to, definitely not a 'read through once' kind of thing.

  • @TheWildernessEnthusiast
    @TheWildernessEnthusiast 3 года назад +1

    Poor Naveed. Just nodding most of the video lol

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад +7

      Gotta show support for the wife! ;-)

  • @sethmilman
    @sethmilman 3 года назад

    What's up with the guy on the right? Is he just there to nod and agree with the woman on the left? They must be married - that was my job when I was married. Thank you for the great video.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 года назад

      LOL! We had originally planned for him to teach certain sections of the video but in the end he didn’t feel quite comfortable for this one. He does a really good job at nodding tho! Thank you!

  • @antonioluckyskywalker912
    @antonioluckyskywalker912 3 года назад

    Socbrutal

  • @DodgerB763
    @DodgerB763 3 года назад

    I don't think you said "essentially" enough.

  • @samiamagaimagain
    @samiamagaimagain 3 года назад +1

    First!