If DRACULA IS REAL. HE WOULD BE BRIAN KHOLBERGER. HIS FACE HAS AN ELASTIC QUALITY ( ALA TED BUNDY) I COULD ONLY IMAGINE THAT RAGING HORRIBLE FACE " MORPHING " INTO SOMETHING DEMONIC . # LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE.
@@ChristinaRayne: But then what are the chances that no one else’s DNA was found unless it had been wiped clean by or before the last person who touched it?
I remember hearing that they did find 2 other male DNA’s at the scene but I didn’t know BK’s DNA was the only DNA on the sheath, I don’t think there was due diligence on the first responders….8. Hours. Later. Js
@@a.mack16: It would be a lot more suspicious if other DNA WASN’T found. Also, the 8 hour delay was NOT the fault of the first responders and should have no effect on the DNA analysis.
This trial is going to be public, and the case mostly has been, except for what is kept under seal to protect privacy of victims and witnesses and their families.
whether it's working for you is a matter of personal opinion. Law is law and the judge will base sentencing on fact/evidence as well strength of the case too
@@LittleMissBison I never said that, and I am not on every channel like Andrea trying to cash in on fame off Kohberger's name. She's been on other channels including her own rambling on and on repeating herself and dogging the Prosecution's case. She actually sounds brainwashed and has the large wild eyed look as she tries to get a point across to prove it. Correct your grammar while you are at it. It's not "You is a deep thinker" it's "You are or You're a deep thinker.
The most troubling part of the FACTS of this case is the 8 hour delay between the roommate seeing a stranger in the house and the phone call to 911. That’s bizarre. Why don’t they talk about that??
@@kittencatlover156 seeing a stranger isn't the point, she heard screaming from upstairs then opens door minutes later and sees a masked man.... she was frozen shock state locked door went back to her room then what? If she was scared she knew something was wrong....
yeees I mean why invite someone to debate if you're going to interrupt them? I get that he's heated but he needs to chill because she didn't interrupt him once.
her points were not great because she basically made 1 point that this DNA could have been transferred innocuously. No one is saying it's not possible, but you have to acknowledge that it is infinitely more likely that it was left there because he is the killer. That in combination with the fact that they know he drove by the house several times that night is very damning. Just because one piece of evidence has some wiggle room doesn't mean anything when you consider the totality of the evidence. Do you generally agree or disagree with that?
@iansane1928 Yes, that is true, that the totality of the facts and who they point to is what matters --- which is why there is probable cause to try him. But this is not an airtight, "beyond reasonable doubt" case based on what we know _so far._ This woman is an excellent lawyer.
A terrific show tonight. I’d never seen nor heard Andrea Burkhart before, and I’m impressed. I’d definitely want her defending me if I found myself in legal peril.
@@LittleMissBisonit’s absolutely mind blowing how so many people are under the very weird illusion that the case against him is weak. Truly fascinating to witness you all behaving like this.
@@mattmcmahon8311cell phone tower pings aren't as accurate as they are saying, they draw a map off tower pings like they had his GPS coordinates, it's pretty shady
Look, I LOVE this channel, and I don’t mean to sound like some internet jerk… but… it wasn’t cool how you repeatedly interrupted this woman. She handled it very well, but please be mindful of this next time.
STOP TALKING OVER HER! I think we’ve heard the state’s fanciful narrative enough times, nice to hear a critical thinker allowed to finish her thoughts/answers.
Sounds like he is desperately trying to convince Andrea that BK is guilty, like he knows... and isn't he a lawyer? It surprises me he thinks what we know now is enough to prove BK guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, the end. Andrea is professional and always great.
OMG, stop interrupting Andrea. She’s one of the most intelligent attorneys out there, and has a lot of great points that most people aren’t talking about.
I completely agree with you!! I am watching this now for the 2nd time and it’s like he’s so scared of her having a logical statement; that he feels the need to simply be rude and speak his nonsense louder and over her so people can’t hear what she has to say!! Such a shame! Because she is such an intelligent person with valid points!! But hasn’t that been the case from the beginning whenever anyone tries to say something that goes against the narrative that MPD and UI is putting out??
I liked the debate and seeing both sides to the argument but jeez Jesse let Andrea finish her sentences and stop talking over her next time. It was off-putting to listen to.
Well, I wouldn’t exactly go that far. She sees things from a defense attorney’s perspective, so her views are definitely colored by that. However, she does seem like a great defense lawyer.
She says nothing that we don’t already know. She simply does what a defense lawyer is trained to do. Challenge theories. It’s really just common sense that she’s pointing out.
@@jimlahey3919Thank you, I think the woman REALLY IS REACHING lmfao she's forgetting one important factor...... "A jury will look at fact's, and where's the evidence or something solid that shows Bryan was SET UP & FRAMED 😂😂BY WHO & WHY?" - That's ridiculous. Occums Razor - the obvious reason is usually the truth! How do you get DNA under the Victim? Right!
They should have left everything alone until the trial IS over, PERIOD! They need to test sound and sight. What did Dylan actually hear? She allegedly said she heard Kaylee say, " There's someone here" and then allegedly heard someone say "I'm going to help you". But she didn't hear any other noises after that? I'm not buying it! Before gutting the house, they should have tested sounds in the house and how did Dylan hear these things?
great conversation. Emotively the evidence against Kohberger works for me, but Andrea's arguments about the problems with each piece of evidence is compelling.
The defense doesn't have to prove an alternative explanation why the dna would be there, it's the state that has the burden to prove there's no possible alternative.
I stumbled across a Georgia police news site that lists all the police officers & Correction officers in the entire State convicted of felonies & removed from their positions permanently (state, local, juvenile justice positions)👉there were ‘thousands’ on the list
I think it's REALLY unprofessional that Jesse kept talking over his guest just because he didn't agree with her. Andrea is EXTREMELY articulate. The thing we have to be mindful of is that the standard for this (murder) is BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. As Andrea points out, time and time again, is that it's not actually on Kohberger to prove his innocence; it's on the state to prove his guilt, and that this must be with no alternative theory to the facts of the case. Just because there isn't anyone else currently identified doesn't mean that he MUST be it. There is a PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE in our justice system, so the fact that a lot of these preconceived notions of guilt in spite of well-reasoned counterarguments just speaks volumes about the court of public opinion.
Was a terrific show to watch, Andrea is very composed and intelligent. Though honestly Jesse really should let his guests on the show speak. Don't interrupt them repeatedly like this, I know that you're "prosecuting" to her "defense" here but seriously... let her make her points which is the whole reason you asked her on the show.
Great show. Would be even better if Jess let Andrea finish the sentences. Honestly, I think was a lot of pressure to find someone to blame and there are way too many circumstantial evidences on this case. I think the media already decided the verdict on this trial and if Brian is the real murder or not, does not matter. People want justice and I am pretty sure a lot of money and effort was already put on this so he has no chance.
@@stephanied6451 The most important aspect is the absence of DNA of the four students. Imagine, this was a brutal massacre. Therefore, there must exit plenty of blood but pounds of blood. So, Bryan must have transfer that, at least to his car. So, how on earth there is no Blood in his vehicle? How the prosecution will manage this?
It was really interesting to discuss this with a defence attorney. I always love to see things from both sides. Just like shows like Middle Ground. Would love to see more of these!
Very interesting, that lady made some good points. Imo he is guilty and they will get a conviction unless the prosecution makes a big mistake. The host is loving some of the evidence, like the witnesses description, too much.
Hes running a show and they have limited time....and at one point she talked for 8 min straight...... Jumping in after more than 5 min of straight talking is hardly interrupting.....at no point did he just not let her talk. Also, the times when he is interjecting and repeating what he says, its after she has talked for a while and he is trying to get his side in and she doesnt do what most people do which is stop talking for a min to hear him out. They are debating.....its going to be hard to remember a point after minutes of her talking and he still let her go on and on. The only points where he interjected forcefully is toward the end when they were running out of time and she just wouldnt stop to let him speak. Peoples perception is wild....
Jesse what are you trying to do ? CONVINCE HER ?? let her make the point and stop interrupting her, she heard the details of your question. You were definitely pushy and lowkey rude especially at 27:39
This case and the Delphi one has turned into a circus. With accusations if misconduct, unfair treatment and zero privacy for the victims and their families. Imagine your child getting mur*dered and watching on international platforms as it's turned into a freak show.
Well some of the families want maximum coverage of the case though and welcome the interest. I imagine there are many families out there who wish there was this much attention on their loved ones case.
I would want the case to be known and tried with the public involved. I think it helps keep the justice system more honest. And I would want everyone to know my child's name. Because my children deserve to be remembered.
BK DNA blew through the wind from Pullman and landed in Idaho on that knife sheath button. Then for some odd reason his phone pinged next to the house and turned off during the murder window but he was actually never there. He is just a very unlucky guy set him free.
What I wanna know is how come it took so long for the roommates to call the police and they also called a lot of people over to do the crime scene before they called the police. they didn’t call the police until like two in the afternoon and a lot of people were in and out?
A) Jesse needs to let her finish a sentence before talking. B) Yikes on bikes for having a sponsor that wants to catalog everyone’s DNA under the guise of “solving crimes.”
I've watched Andrea before,she's interrupted and talked over people,too. She gets the time constraints in this format and having passionate opinions. She's a gem.
I agree. There is no real evidence he has anything to do with the crime. The house was a party house where dozens of students had recently been congregating. None of the evidence was pristine. Good grief driving around on the street is not stalking neither is following someone on social media. Theories of how something happened is not evidence.
I agree. There is no real evidence he has anything to do with the crime. The house was a party house where dozens of students had recently been congregating. None of the evidence was pristine. Good grief driving around on the street is not stalking neither is following someone on social media. Theories of how something happened is not evidence.
There was plenty of evidence for the judge to allow him to be held in custody until the trial. But i'm glad random jackass online knows better than the judge... some of you conspiracy people really boggle my brain.
Jesse! The entire prosecution’s case against Kohberger hinges on that time frame between 4:04 am and 4:20 am, so if they change that then all their evidence of the car driving around during that time is down the toilet. If there is evidence that shows it coulda been an hour earlier the case is sunk.
only ONE tiny spec of touch DNA confirms its 100% accidental or planted, thus proving his innocence. There 10000% would be more DNA evidence if he was the killer
@@LinaSchafer-j4dso what’s your explanation that no other dna is on there. Wouldn’t someone trying to frame him, smother another’s DNA all over it? Why is it only on the button or underneath to be more precise? The reason is, he knows crime but even the experts make mistakes. He cleaned it but guess what, it’s almost impossible to clean under that button into the stitching. Mind you, he wasn’t thinking he was going to leave it behind. In a struggle things happen. No doubt in the struggle with knife in one hand Sheath in the other, those girls would have fought and at least one of the girls, probably the 2nd deceased, would have woken and put her hands up to grab they knife or sheath or whatever she could while fighting for he life. In the frenzy, Jack the bloody ripper has just killed 2 girls and probably killed for the first time ever . His adrenaline is pumping big time . He’s not thinking in the way he may have thought he would be and was, just minutes ago, when cold and calculated. He leaves slowly and forgets the sheath exists in that moment. He comes into the path of the 3rd young lady who had just eaten and been online. He attacks her and her partner. He is exhausted and I am sure that you and I wouldn’t know how one would feel. . Whether he sees the next girl or not? We will never know. He was probably in a trance by then . She was in a trance herself when seeing him but after being initially scared and frozen, she lay there under the influence of substances and then sleeps and knows nothing until many hours later. What a horror to wake to. What a horror full stop.
@stevenprice6957 why would the killer wipe it clean when he didn't intend on leaving it? what's your explanation no other dna (or connection to victims) in house, outside, his car, his apt., his parent's house, storage unit, his office?
My daughter didn’t have to when she did her internship with our county district attorney’s office (and state police department) and now she also works for them. However, we live in another state.
This is what I've been screaming for months. Even if he didn't have to give DNA did he hand in a physical paper application or resume. Ya know, the kind of thing you could get a miniscule amount of touch DNA off of.
But why would police somehow have his DNA with them and deposit it on the murder weapon’s sheath, especially as upon arriving at the house they wouldn’t have had any idea who was behind the slaughter?
@@morrigonghoulsli4873 you must be a boomer or haven't been to any job interviews in the last 10 years...a physical paper applications or resume is not commonly used nowadays for any internship or even legit job application. Most of the time you fill it out online and then the HR representative simply email or print it out for the interview managers to review.
@@trudykennedy2380 we don't know that someone in LE isn't responsible (this particular police department has been guilty of framing innocent people previously), or have been instructed to cover it up to protect someone else (such as a certain nephew of a certain attorney general that was with the girls that night and fled the country straight after), or even when the sheath actually turned up or why, if it was supposedly under Maddie's body why her blood wasn't on it. Why didn't they bother testing the other 3 sources of DNA there? Why only hone in on one piece of partial touch DNA which may or may not have been planted? Why did the other roommates invite everyone over for a clean up party before someone eventually decided to call police? Everything is shady. Too many questions that haven't been answered.
Andrea B. did her thing. And Jesse did too. I really enjoyed this back n forth debate 🔥🔥. This case seems shady so far tho…but whatever happens…I really hope the victims’ families get some justice 🙏
My issue is none of them got his dna under their finger nails from fighting back? We heard reports that Kaley fought back, xana may have fought back…. But none of these kids had his dna under their finger nails or on their bodies? I always struggled with that one
@@kimlarsoAlthough, I believe Ethan was found outside the room and Xana inside. Indicating that Ethan probably went to investigate something and was killed then Xana was killed after inside the room.
Hes running a show and they have limited time....and at one point she talked for 8 min straight...... Jumping in after more than 5 min of straight talking is hardly interrupting.....at no point did he just not let her talk. Also, the times when he is interjecting and repeating what he says, its after she has talked for a while and he is trying to get his side in and she doesnt do what most people do which is stop talking for a min to hear him out. They are debating.....its going to be hard to remember a point after minutes of her talking and he still let her go on and on. The only points where he interjected forcefully is toward the end when they were running out of time and she just wouldnt stop to let him speak. Peoples perception is wild....
Great and thoughtful discussion Jesse. I think your guest Andrea Burkhart presents some good points to consider for BK’s defense. I think she’s the only one I’ve heard so far that doesn’t sound far fetch. Unless there is anything defense has that would raise reasonable doubt that BK was there that night, I do agree that the DNA- coupled with the cell phone evidence and his activities when he was home is enough for a guilty verdict.
The affidavit has contradicting statements... in one part they say his phone DID ping, but they don't believe he was at that location..... then in another part they say his phone DIDN'T ping, but they believe he was there.... so their contradicting statements PROVE their information isn't reliable or accurate. This lady was amazing... intelligent, using common sense and being unbiased. None of these pieces of "evidence" have been verified.
There are other ways beyond cellphone and tower metadata to determine a person’s and/or vehicle’s location including the electronics of the vehicle itself.
@@notpub The state has never claimed that any GPS evidence exists. Base model Hyundai cars do not have GPS capabilities. Cell phone tower ‘pings’ do not give detailed geolocation parameters.
Yeah I’m sure these college kids usually slept on a twin bed with a random empty knife sheath despite no knives being in the house. Before I go to lay down I usually just put a knife sheath on my bed and go right to sleep. I’m sure it was just a coincidence also that the knife that type of sheath carries was the same type of knife used during the attack. Ridiculous
So, theoretically, it's also possible that one of the girls had a ka-bar for protection, and wielding the knife since hearing possible intruder. they got attacked and the perpetrator took the knife for it might have his blood on it.
So many armchair detectives with tunnel vision. I’m very interested in watching coverage to make an informed decision because right now there really is no way to be sure imo
Fax, I see people in the comments clearly not understand that the defense only have to poke holes and cause reasonable doubt and there is too much doubt at the moment, I feel like people are forgetting this
This was really good. I like both sides. This case is crazy. I just hope those families get justice and they get the right person. If it’s not BK, then they need to work on who it was. This is insane.
@@dank2171There actually isn’t. They’re only relying on dna. They said it was targeted, but still have yet to tell the public at least what the connection is.
@dank2171 The ONLY dna is touch dna? The touch dna was found on the inside of a snap button. How is that possible? Did BK kiss someone, and the that person licked the inside of the button?!?
@@dank2171Thank you I'm livid after listening to this woman for an hour 😡And reading comments how people actually think he's innocent.....it's disgusting 🤢 BK IS A COMPLETE PSYCHO PATH WHO DESERVES MAX D-SENTENCE
Never heard of Jesse Webber prior to this case but wow, could he be any more biased? His guest explains multiple ways the DNA could have been on the sheath and he completely ignores every point she made and repeats himself not taking anything she just said into account. Not sure if this guy considers himself a journalist or not but at least pretend to have a trace of objectivity.
Echo chamber? Really? 99.99% of mainstream media coverage has already convicted him. This guest was a breath of fresh air and calmly presented multiple holes in the narrative. How would contemplating her points be an echo chamber?
Eye witness "description" from a drunk/high party girl... who didn't even call the police until 8 hours later------ doesn't mean much.... the description is vague and probably would describe 1/2 of the dudes that were partying in the house the night before 🙄
@@holliedollie799he left no blood at the scene. It was transfer dna. The lawyer in this video clearly stated how no direct dna (blood, body fluids) of the killer were found at the scene. At least not that anyone knows of at this time. That could be evidence the prosecutors are sitting on.
Dude, when she’s talking let her finish her thought before saying “but the idea of the car but the idea of the car but the idea of the car but the idea of the car” over and over until she’s forced to stop talking. Rude.
8:53, the man just said it himself it was placed there. So maybe it was sometime during the 10 hours before the police were called it could have been placed there. Too many people went in and out that house before LE was even notified. There is too much reasonable doubt on this case. That's my opinion.
Thank you for adding some common sense to this case. There are too many tin hat communities who have hyper focused on minuet details they have zero understanding of. The simplest explanation is often the right one let’s not forget.
Yes. Nearly every video I watch about this case there's several people who repeatedly post the same comment stating Bryan us innocent. Their 'facts' are starkly different from what I'm hearing from the evidence.
Other than the trace DNA which is not reliable the Prosecution has no other evidence. The pings are not credible as LE admitted error on one ping in the PCA so all pings are questionable. LE cannot demonstrate that was BK Elantra no evidence to show he parked or even entered the house. There's no smoking gun all the evidence LE has is in the PCA and that is circumstantial. Seems you are the delusional one.
yup all evidence shows 2 roommates are txting each other and clean up for 8 hours after the murder. its called Occam's razor..its sick the innocent Kohberger is dragged into this
Jesse annoys me. He doesnt let people speak he overtalks people and interupts all the time. He needs to let people finish and not interupt there train of thought. Btw this defense lawyer andrea is brilliant.
Great conversation! Totally disagree with the "expert" that if DNA is thrown out then there is no case. There is ALL the circumstantial evidence of him stalking the crime scene and the victims. That debunks any theory that he was being set up or it was someone else. She is doing some fantastic mental gymnastics to believe that the vehicle and the rest of the circumstantial evidence fits her narrative.
It also requires some mental gymnastics to explain the roommates not calling LE for over 8 hours after the victims were killed. Also the total lack of DNA in his car, apartments, offices, storages etc. With no evidence of cleaning.
Imagine BK taking on both E & X at the same time & not having his dna under their nails or on their hands 👉as for Delphi 👉they say RA controlled BOTH girls bc he had a ‘gun!’ Now, the girls would’ve known they’re going to die & you know darn well they’d take their chances & both either try & jump him or at least 1 run away for help👉they too were slashed to death & not shot (Why woukd RA have both a knife & a gun👉idk of one case where a killer brought both weapons) and neither girl had RA’s dna under their nails & both girls did not choose to allow RA to kill them one by one👉there are at least 2 killers in both of these cases👉RA didn’t have the health to kill one & then chase after the other & neither girl was shot 👉and so, you know E & X would’ve heard K & M being murdered & would’ve certainly gained the upper hand on BK bc they would’ve been ready so DM’s story line is BS in that E & X we’re slain last bc They had enough time to have heard the fight upstairs & be able to lock their door & call 911 bf BK had time to break down the door which wasn’t broke down & the fight occurred in X’s room so only someone trusted could’ve accessed their room👉what you can’t put ur finger in is that we have 2 people sitting in jail for murders that no victim has the killers dna on their bodies after malicious attacks, as if they were first incapacitated & unable to fight back…..or most likely, there was more than one killer which makes the most sense in BOTH cases (in the Delphi case: there were 2 females in the location the girls were last noted (Chyenne & Cheryl) & eye witness stated there was also a male & female arguing under the bridge near the crime scene👉this is within the hour of the estimated time of death of the girls👉Could the attack on the girls have been occurring under the bridge while RA was crossing & the 2 young ladies have Libby’s phone & recorded RA & that is why Libby’s phone was found on her instead of the killer getting rid of it?! 👉the scenario of these other 4 possibly being the killers makes more sense (fits the younger sketch profile) rather than loner RA, who allegedly couldn’t make up his mind to use the gun or the knife but ended up choosing the knife 👉who knows, maybe one of RA’s kids was involved & he’s taking the fall?! …and we know E & X we’re together & there’s no way BK took both on at the same time without escaping w some serious injuries let alone get his @&& kicked by the two👉I mean the four👉BK did not take out 4 to his 1👉There is no “beyond a reasonable doubt’ in either case👉and we all should keep in mind this could be one of us someday & Tis a great day, when cameras are allowed in court proceedings👉transparency is good & holding professionals accountable is even better
this stuff is so tricky! I wish they could get a confession! If he’s innocent but charged is just sooooo terrible but let go and did it is just horrible!
Loved this one! Glad they’re airing the trial on RUclips it should be made public. Crazy to think that if KB is exonerated the killer is walking amongst us. So so many questions still need answered. Ultimately hope justice is served for the victims and the correct person is put away.
Andrea is intelligent, articulate, and knowledgeable. However, trying to make a case that BK's DNA happened to transfer to a knife sheath, which was found under a victim, is ludicrous. It's grasping at straws to trying to explain that away.
@@Originalman144 Or BK's vehicle for that matter. This woman does this for a living not to mention went to school for years for this. She accurately has her hand on the pulse of what is going on.
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If DRACULA IS REAL.
HE WOULD BE BRIAN KHOLBERGER.
HIS FACE HAS AN ELASTIC QUALITY ( ALA TED BUNDY)
I COULD ONLY IMAGINE THAT RAGING HORRIBLE FACE " MORPHING " INTO SOMETHING DEMONIC .
# LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE.
There was a gun and knife show the weekend before. He could have possibly picked it up and set it down at the G&N show
@@ChristinaRayne: But then what are the chances that no one else’s DNA was found unless it had been wiped clean by or before the last person who touched it?
I remember hearing that they did find 2 other male DNA’s at the scene but I didn’t know BK’s DNA was the only DNA on the sheath, I don’t think there was due diligence on the first responders….8. Hours. Later. Js
@@a.mack16: It would be a lot more suspicious if other DNA WASN’T found. Also, the 8 hour delay was NOT the fault of the first responders and should have no effect on the DNA analysis.
all trials should be public because at this point in our courts and judicial system we need to see if our system is working like it is supposed to be!
This trial is going to be public, and the case mostly has been, except for what is kept under seal to protect privacy of victims and witnesses and their families.
Kohberger is going through a lot, cameras make him very anxious
They shouldn't have allowed cameras
whether it's working for you is a matter of personal opinion. Law is law and the judge will base sentencing on fact/evidence as well strength of the case too
I agree!
You couldn’t find anyone better to present case facts than Andrea Burhart. And she didn’t interrupt her debate opponent either. Well done.👌🏼
Andrea is not a deep thinker. I question what she says. She takes everything at face value.
@@Pllm30agreed.
@@Pllm30 Unlike you who is a deep thinker and VERY intelligent, right? 😂😂😂
@@LittleMissBison
I never said that, and I am not on every channel like Andrea trying to cash in on fame off Kohberger's name. She's been on other channels including her own rambling on and on repeating herself and dogging the Prosecution's case.
She actually sounds brainwashed and has the large wild eyed look as she tries to get a point across to prove it. Correct your grammar while you are at it. It's not "You is a deep thinker" it's "You are or You're a deep thinker.
Agree, not a fan of her
The most troubling part of the FACTS of this case is the 8 hour delay between the roommate seeing a stranger in the house and the phone call to 911. That’s bizarre. Why don’t they talk about that??
Coz it doesn't suit the media's narrative of BK being a "creepy incel stalker"
seeing a stranger in my house when I was in College living with roommates literally summed up my college years on the weekends...
@@kittencatlover156 seeing a stranger isn't the point, she heard screaming from upstairs then opens door minutes later and sees a masked man.... she was frozen shock state locked door went back to her room then what? If she was scared she knew something was wrong....
@@ethanwiles2 your in other comments saying he should be freed .
@@holliedollie799 yes
She made a lot of really valid points! Just wish she wasn't constantly interrupted 😑
yeees I mean why invite someone to debate if you're going to interrupt them? I get that he's heated but he needs to chill because she didn't interrupt him once.
Men be that way-look at Joe Scarborough 😵💫
Yea that was very surprising.. it was not slight interrupting he was fighting over to have her stop talking. Jessy you had some bad moments.
her points were not great because she basically made 1 point that this DNA could have been transferred innocuously. No one is saying it's not possible, but you have to acknowledge that it is infinitely more likely that it was left there because he is the killer. That in combination with the fact that they know he drove by the house several times that night is very damning. Just because one piece of evidence has some wiggle room doesn't mean anything when you consider the totality of the evidence. Do you generally agree or disagree with that?
@iansane1928 Yes, that is true, that the totality of the facts and who they point to is what matters --- which is why there is probable cause to try him. But this is not an airtight, "beyond reasonable doubt" case based on what we know _so far._ This woman is an excellent lawyer.
Andrea is excellent - less interrupting would have been great.
Lol "interrupting"
he needs attention@@stevethompson5168
@@stevethompson5168 thats what it was
Why would Jesse ask his guest a question, then while she is answering, cut her off..? Come on lol
Yes. I wonder that also.
He already has him convicted perhaps.
as Andrea kept destroying him, he thought being louder and interrupting could help his case😂
How could a perpetrator leave Kohberger DNA on the knife sheath and not their own?
They wore gloves?
I'm not making fun but ya didn't think that one thru, that's like saying , how did anyone ever frame someone.
Ummmm...killer could have wore gloves ect. R u new to true crime😅
They were smart enough to set him up.
💯 agree
Andrea did a great job! I am kinda annoyed that Jesse kept interrupting her….😅
LOL! His first question was yes/no and ahe rambled on like she was getting paid by the word.
A terrific show tonight. I’d never seen nor heard Andrea Burkhart before, and I’m impressed. I’d definitely want her defending me if I found myself in legal peril.
Her RUclips is awesome
@@jaimefio643 I’ll head to her channel and subscribe. Thanks for the head’s-up!
She isn't going to help him get away with a quadruple murder.
@@unrealuknow864 No, the state's weak case will do that.
@@LittleMissBisonit’s absolutely mind blowing how so many people are under the very weird illusion that the case against him is weak. Truly fascinating to witness you all behaving like this.
Jesse Weber matches DM'S description just as well as BK!
Yep, he does...so does my grandpa and uncle.....
Interesting comment now the cell phone data was released
@@mattmcmahon8311cell phone tower pings aren't as accurate as they are saying, they draw a map off tower pings like they had his GPS coordinates, it's pretty shady
Jesse Weber is a big reason why I don't subscribe to Law & Crime. Great job, Ms. Andrea, a first class act.
But he's a good interviewer in that he presents one argument and lets his guest counter it. It creates a balanced conversation.
@@xoxsilentrealmxox@pattibarnett1142
Andrea went easy on Jesse. And yes, this was great argument.
he doesn't come across as a lawyer interested in the law, but a "journalist" with an agenda
Look, I LOVE this channel, and I don’t mean to sound like some internet jerk… but… it wasn’t cool how you repeatedly interrupted this woman. She handled it very well, but please be mindful of this next time.
This is a show not real court.
There are time constraints.
@@spirit13the1st6 thanks for pointing that out, but I know it’s not court. Sorry if I confused you.
@@abigailr6966I didn't like him shouting over her, let her speak she's the quest
@@abigailr6966 Blatantly ignoring the facts deserves interruption
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 who are you, his boss?!?!?!Away you go
STOP TALKING OVER HER! I think we’ve heard the state’s fanciful narrative enough times, nice to hear a critical thinker allowed to finish her thoughts/answers.
This is exactly what I just commented! He isn’t giving her the chance to say her side because it is disagreeing with his view points.
I was thinking this with each answer 🙈
Sounds like he is desperately trying to convince Andrea that BK is guilty, like he knows... and isn't he a lawyer? It surprises me he thinks what we know now is enough to prove BK guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, the end. Andrea is professional and always great.
He was abnoxious!
OMG, stop interrupting Andrea. She’s one of the most intelligent attorneys out there, and has a lot of great points that most people aren’t talking about.
To be fair he had a limited amount of time to ask all of his questions
@@FrozenWolf893 He was taking over her. It’s just rude.
@@FrozenWolf893 to be fair his agendawas to be argumentative but he took it a step too far and came across aggressive. Hmm
I completely agree with you!! I am watching this now for the 2nd time and it’s like he’s so scared of her having a logical statement; that he feels the need to simply be rude and speak his nonsense louder and over her so people can’t hear what she has to say!! Such a shame! Because she is such an intelligent person with valid points!! But hasn’t that been the case from the beginning whenever anyone tries to say something that goes against the narrative that MPD and UI is putting out??
If I ever need to get away with a crime-- I need her as my attorney 🤣🤣
Lmao
Andrea is the BEST! Smart and articulate
what do you want , to date her????????
@@anthonyfracchiolla2268I would 😅
that MOLE tho
She's very smart. It's nice to see how both sides think
@@katm22
She's hardly a supermodel
I liked the debate and seeing both sides to the argument but jeez Jesse let Andrea finish her sentences and stop talking over her next time. It was off-putting to listen to.
This defense attorney is GREAT.
Andrea is the best. Been watching her for bout 2yrs. She is so knowledgeable. Follows facts not narrative.
Well, I wouldn’t exactly go that far. She sees things from a defense attorney’s perspective, so her views are definitely colored by that. However, she does seem like a great defense lawyer.
Unlike ol duder here!
She says nothing that we don’t already know. She simply does what a defense lawyer is trained to do. Challenge theories. It’s really just common sense that she’s pointing out.
@@jimlahey3919apparently, a lot of people don’t have that common sense. They can’t see past their own nose.
@@jimlahey3919Thank you, I think the woman REALLY IS REACHING lmfao she's forgetting one important factor...... "A jury will look at fact's, and where's the evidence or something solid that shows Bryan was SET UP & FRAMED 😂😂BY WHO & WHY?" - That's ridiculous. Occums Razor - the obvious reason is usually the truth! How do you get DNA under the Victim? Right!
Word to the wise: stay VERY far away from GEDmatch or any of the others.
RIGHT! You couldn't pay men enough to even think of doing that.
Something to hide ?
@@pointerlover3492 Yep, my privacy and that of my children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and so on....
They should have left everything alone until the trial IS over, PERIOD! They need to test sound and sight. What did Dylan actually hear? She allegedly said she heard Kaylee say, " There's someone here" and then allegedly heard someone say "I'm going to help you". But she didn't hear any other noises after that? I'm not buying it! Before gutting the house, they should have tested sounds in the house and how did Dylan hear these things?
Jess, don't interrupt such a knowledgeable guest. Let her speak.
great conversation. Emotively the evidence against Kohberger works for me, but Andrea's arguments about the problems with each piece of evidence is compelling.
The defense doesn't have to prove an alternative explanation why the dna would be there, it's the state that has the burden to prove there's no possible alternative.
You don't say, really. 😂😂
what's the actual likelihood of someone setting up the ZERO
Yes they do if they want to win. You need to put reasonable doubt into the jury. The prosecution isn’t going to do that for you.
@@mbmonkey1 The burden of proof is on the prosecution.
I watched a video the other night of a LE Officer pulling people over in their cars and Planting Drugs, only to find them Immediately after.
I stumbled across a Georgia police news site that lists all the police officers & Correction officers in the entire State convicted of felonies & removed from their positions permanently (state, local, juvenile justice positions)👉there were ‘thousands’ on the list
I think it's REALLY unprofessional that Jesse kept talking over his guest just because he didn't agree with her. Andrea is EXTREMELY articulate. The thing we have to be mindful of is that the standard for this (murder) is BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. As Andrea points out, time and time again, is that it's not actually on Kohberger to prove his innocence; it's on the state to prove his guilt, and that this must be with no alternative theory to the facts of the case. Just because there isn't anyone else currently identified doesn't mean that he MUST be it. There is a PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE in our justice system, so the fact that a lot of these preconceived notions of guilt in spite of well-reasoned counterarguments just speaks volumes about the court of public opinion.
Was a terrific show to watch, Andrea is very composed and intelligent. Though honestly Jesse really should let his guests on the show speak. Don't interrupt them repeatedly like this, I know that you're "prosecuting" to her "defense" here but seriously... let her make her points which is the whole reason you asked her on the show.
My goodness, let the woman speak! You're so glad to have her on yet you keep interrupting her whenever it's her turn to talk.
Very educated and professional disagreement/debate. Very enjoyable and informative! Thank you
Great show. Would be even better if Jess let Andrea finish the sentences. Honestly, I think was a lot of pressure to find someone to blame and there are way too many circumstantial evidences on this case. I think the media already decided the verdict on this trial and if Brian is the real murder or not, does not matter. People want justice and I am pretty sure a lot of money and effort was already put on this so he has no chance.
The jury will do what they need to do
@@stephanied6451 The most important aspect is the absence of DNA of the four students. Imagine, this was a brutal massacre. Therefore, there must exit plenty of blood but pounds of blood. So, Bryan must have transfer that, at least to his car. So, how on earth there is no Blood in his vehicle? How the prosecution will manage this?
@@Alexis619fullyou do not know if there was no blood found in car.
Jesse please allow your guests to speak and get their points out. Andrea was great.
He has to get a word in edgewise !
At the same time she is long winded and goes on and on for each point. He has to stop her at some point
It was really interesting to discuss this with a defence attorney. I always love to see things from both sides. Just like shows like Middle Ground.
Would love to see more of these!
I just hope the prosecution watches this crap TO DEBUNK PEOPLE LIKE THIS ON THE STAND
@@gingeehermann4711lol Surely the prosecution doesn’t need to watch this in order to try the case.
Very interesting, that lady made some good points. Imo he is guilty and they will get a conviction unless the prosecution makes a big mistake. The host is loving some of the evidence, like the witnesses description, too much.
Yes Andrea Burkhardt has her own channel as well.
Andrea Burkhart always gives it to us straight. I can't get enough of her analysis on any given case. I'm glad to hear from her here on Law & Crime.
She’s a scum defense attorney that helps people that she knows are guilty walk free.
Jesse, there is a very good thing for you to learn to listen, and not talk impatiently over your guests
Hes running a show and they have limited time....and at one point she talked for 8 min straight...... Jumping in after more than 5 min of straight talking is hardly interrupting.....at no point did he just not let her talk. Also, the times when he is interjecting and repeating what he says, its after she has talked for a while and he is trying to get his side in and she doesnt do what most people do which is stop talking for a min to hear him out. They are debating.....its going to be hard to remember a point after minutes of her talking and he still let her go on and on. The only points where he interjected forcefully is toward the end when they were running out of time and she just wouldnt stop to let him speak. Peoples perception is wild....
Jesse what are you trying to do ? CONVINCE HER ?? let her make the point and stop interrupting her, she heard the details of your question. You were definitely pushy and lowkey rude especially at 27:39
This case and the Delphi one has turned into a circus. With accusations if misconduct, unfair treatment and zero privacy for the victims and their families. Imagine your child getting mur*dered and watching on international platforms as it's turned into a freak show.
YOU COMPARING THIS TO THE MURDER OF THE TWO GIRLS WHICH NO ARREST MADE AND KOBERGER WAS ARRESTED
Well some of the families want maximum coverage of the case though and welcome the interest. I imagine there are many families out there who wish there was this much attention on their loved ones case.
The secrecy has made those two cases a circus plus the long time between waking up and the 811 call doesn’t help
I do not see this one as a circus but the Delphi is for sure.
I would want the case to be known and tried with the public involved. I think it helps keep the justice system more honest. And I would want everyone to know my child's name. Because my children deserve to be remembered.
Has all of the evidence been released to the public? I don’t think it has.
Totally agree with that
Not sure either they may have more
Nope not all
if you think prosecutor looks bad now, wait til the exculpatory evidence come out
Is all the evidence ever released to the public before trial? Seems like lawyers might have access but not general public.
Andrea is amazing. Fantastic guest.
Way to go Andrea! She's is one of the best and most clear to understand lawyers on RUclips!
Andrea is great. I am surprised at jessy trying to talk over her. I like him, but he had some bad moments.
BK DNA blew through the wind from Pullman and landed in Idaho on that knife sheath button. Then for some odd reason his phone pinged next to the house and turned off during the murder window but he was actually never there. He is just a very unlucky guy set him free.
Wow, Andrea really knows her stuff! 💯 she made some compelling arguments.
so do you believe this guy did not do it????????
Really she does aye 😂😂
@@anthonyfracchiolla226850/50 it’s him or the roommates
She's great, but she's working with very little here.
Jesse! How dare you interrupt the goddess multiple times!?!
My daughter and I shut our phones off the other night to watch a movie, I guess we're in trouble
So many people have no clue why a defense attorneys job is so important.
Isn't it ironic there was a gun and knife show in town the weekend before. He could have handled it at that G&N show.
Very interesting, I’d say!
or buy it @@LaPlaztique
Don't think the bk is guilty camp will like this one
So could lots of people including the 'killer' who somehow managed to clean off all the DNA apart from Kohburger's
What I wanna know is how come it took so long for the roommates to call the police and they also called a lot of people over to do the crime scene before they called the police. they didn’t call the police until like two in the afternoon and a lot of people were in and out?
Maybe it takes a bit of time to clean up and get the story straight?
Lol, he's done. Please move to trial. Stop the delay.
Because BK worked with the police
DA
It wasn’t 2pm 😂
I wonder if she went out, saw the spread, went back into her room and passed out?
A) Jesse needs to let her finish a sentence before talking.
B) Yikes on bikes for having a sponsor that wants to catalog everyone’s DNA under the guise of “solving crimes.”
I've watched Andrea before,she's interrupted and talked over people,too. She gets the time constraints in this format and having passionate opinions. She's a gem.
Right?!?!! also....."yikes on bikes" Hahahahahahahahahaha, that one is a gem....
@@WindsofChange Haha it’s a personal favorite
@@bethnorrod5942 Yeah but Jesse REALLY seems to like hearing himself talk
@@evanshannon My new fav is getting your poop in a group LOLOLOLOL..
If this dude hadn't left the sheath and instead left his phone at home, the murders probably would never have been solved.
This is the weakest case I’ve ever seen in this day in age . Possible innocent man on trial.
I agree, he’s been stitched up
Rubbish! Guilty facts! You wait and see what happens. More facts will come out. The man is guilty of these murders 100%
I agree. There is no real evidence he has anything to do with the crime. The house was a party house where dozens of students had recently been congregating. None of the evidence was pristine. Good grief driving around on the street is not stalking neither is following someone on social media. Theories of how something happened is not evidence.
I agree. There is no real evidence he has anything to do with the crime. The house was a party house where dozens of students had recently been congregating. None of the evidence was pristine. Good grief driving around on the street is not stalking neither is following someone on social media. Theories of how something happened is not evidence.
There was plenty of evidence for the judge to allow him to be held in custody until the trial. But i'm glad random jackass online knows better than the judge... some of you conspiracy people really boggle my brain.
Jesse! The entire prosecution’s case against Kohberger hinges on that time frame between 4:04 am and 4:20 am, so if they change that then all their evidence of the car driving around during that time is down the toilet. If there is evidence that shows it coulda been an hour earlier the case is sunk.
So many issues with the case
only ONE tiny spec of touch DNA confirms its 100% accidental or planted, thus proving his innocence. There 10000% would be more DNA evidence if he was the killer
@@LinaSchafer-j4dso what’s your explanation that no other dna is on there. Wouldn’t someone trying to frame him, smother another’s DNA all over it? Why is it only on the button or underneath to be more precise?
The reason is, he knows crime but even the experts make mistakes. He cleaned it but guess what, it’s almost impossible to clean under that button into the stitching. Mind you, he wasn’t thinking he was going to leave it behind. In a struggle things happen.
No doubt in the struggle with knife in one hand Sheath in the other, those girls would have fought and at least one of the girls, probably the 2nd deceased, would have woken and put her hands up to grab they knife or sheath or whatever she could while fighting for he life. In the frenzy, Jack the bloody ripper has just killed 2 girls and probably killed for the first time ever
. His adrenaline is pumping big time . He’s not thinking in the way he may have thought he would be and was, just minutes ago, when cold and calculated.
He leaves slowly and forgets the sheath exists in that moment. He comes into the path of the 3rd young lady who had just eaten and been online. He attacks her and her partner.
He is exhausted and I am sure that you and I wouldn’t know how one would feel.
. Whether he sees the next girl or not? We will never know. He was probably in a trance by then . She was in a trance herself when seeing him but after being initially scared and frozen, she lay there under the influence of substances and then sleeps and knows nothing until many hours later. What a horror to wake to. What a horror full stop.
Just wait until the evidence comes out during trial that all of you pea brains dont know about. Every BK incel fangirl will be SHOCKED!
@stevenprice6957 why would the killer wipe it clean when he didn't intend on leaving it? what's your explanation no other dna (or connection to victims) in house, outside, his car, his apt., his parent's house, storage unit, his office?
How do we know he didn't have to give DNA as part of his application for the internship with police?
My daughter didn’t have to when she did her internship with our county district attorney’s office (and state police department) and now she also works for them. However, we live in another state.
This is what I've been screaming for months. Even if he didn't have to give DNA did he hand in a physical paper application or resume. Ya know, the kind of thing you could get a miniscule amount of touch DNA off of.
But why would police somehow have his DNA with them and deposit it on the murder weapon’s sheath, especially as upon arriving at the house they wouldn’t have had any idea who was behind the slaughter?
@@morrigonghoulsli4873 you must be a boomer or haven't been to any job interviews in the last 10 years...a physical paper applications or resume is not commonly used nowadays for any internship or even legit job application. Most of the time you fill it out online and then the HR representative simply email or print it out for the interview managers to review.
@@trudykennedy2380 we don't know that someone in LE isn't responsible (this particular police department has been guilty of framing innocent people previously), or have been instructed to cover it up to protect someone else (such as a certain nephew of a certain attorney general that was with the girls that night and fled the country straight after), or even when the sheath actually turned up or why, if it was supposedly under Maddie's body why her blood wasn't on it. Why didn't they bother testing the other 3 sources of DNA there? Why only hone in on one piece of partial touch DNA which may or may not have been planted? Why did the other roommates invite everyone over for a clean up party before someone eventually decided to call police? Everything is shady. Too many questions that haven't been answered.
Let her talk!
Andrea B. did her thing. And Jesse did too. I really enjoyed this back n forth debate 🔥🔥.
This case seems shady so far tho…but whatever happens…I really hope the victims’ families get some justice 🙏
How is jessy not bothered by the fact there is no dna in Brians car or home?
My issue is none of them got his dna under their finger nails from fighting back? We heard reports that Kaley fought back, xana may have fought back…. But none of these kids had his dna under their finger nails or on their bodies? I always struggled with that one
Because he wore gloves and a full bodysuit and covered his face
Yep👉I don’t see BK taking on E & X at the same time👉just imagine that scenario by itself
@@kimlarsoAlthough, I believe Ethan was found outside the room and Xana inside. Indicating that Ethan probably went to investigate something and was killed then Xana was killed after inside the room.
Love hearing both perspectives, Ms. Burkhart is a beast, definitely someone you'd want on your side in court!
Dude let her finish. Then state your point. Interrupting all the time doesn’t look good on your part
Hes running a show and they have limited time....and at one point she talked for 8 min straight...... Jumping in after more than 5 min of straight talking is hardly interrupting.....at no point did he just not let her talk. Also, the times when he is interjecting and repeating what he says, its after she has talked for a while and he is trying to get his side in and she doesnt do what most people do which is stop talking for a min to hear him out. They are debating.....its going to be hard to remember a point after minutes of her talking and he still let her go on and on. The only points where he interjected forcefully is toward the end when they were running out of time and she just wouldnt stop to let him speak. Peoples perception is wild....
Jesse, watching you keep interrupting Andrea was painful😬
Can't it be known the difference between losing cell service and a phone being turned off?
She is fantastic. She argued so well and articulated it.
I like her, she has agency and smarts that are rare on this channel
Great and thoughtful discussion Jesse. I think your guest Andrea Burkhart presents some good points to consider for BK’s defense. I think she’s the only one I’ve heard so far that doesn’t sound far fetch. Unless there is anything defense has that would raise reasonable doubt that BK was there that night, I do agree that the DNA- coupled with the cell phone evidence and his activities when he was home is enough for a guilty verdict.
Forgot to mention also, his alibi his team submitted. He was “out for a drive” but no one in BK’s circle could confirm that.
The affidavit has contradicting statements... in one part they say his phone DID ping, but they don't believe he was at that location..... then in another part they say his phone DIDN'T ping, but they believe he was there.... so their contradicting statements PROVE their information isn't reliable or accurate. This lady was amazing... intelligent, using common sense and being unbiased. None of these pieces of "evidence" have been verified.
She was not unbiased. And neither are you. See how that works? Lol
There are other ways beyond cellphone and tower metadata to determine a person’s and/or vehicle’s location including the electronics of the vehicle itself.
The vehicle has GPS tracking in it as well. Hopefully Jurors take ALL the evidence. Unless you think everything is one BIG effing coincidence. Nope.
0Sure acts strange for being innocent.jji888i99
@@notpub The state has never claimed that any GPS evidence exists. Base model Hyundai cars do not have GPS capabilities. Cell phone tower ‘pings’ do not give detailed geolocation parameters.
Jesse, how do you know the knife sheath wasn't in the victim's room before the incident? Do you have connection with the victims?
Yeah I’m sure these college kids usually slept on a twin bed with a random empty knife sheath despite no knives being in the house. Before I go to lay down I usually just put a knife sheath on my bed and go right to sleep. I’m sure it was just a coincidence also that the knife that type of sheath carries was the same type of knife used during the attack. Ridiculous
@@Steelnight9Have you seen there Social Media??? Doesn't sound like you up to par on this case
@@Steelnight9I have bc e a knife in sheath under my pillow at all times
So, theoretically, it's also possible that one of the girls had a ka-bar for protection, and wielding the knife since hearing possible intruder. they got attacked and the perpetrator took the knife for it might have his blood on it.
@@joann5075 yeah, they were quite familiar with weapons, sharp edge ones, playing and taking selfies with them.
He also had the car cleaned several times, hiding garbage in neighbors trash????? Had a ID of one of the victims hidden in his stuff.
Y’all ever heard of “innocent until proven guilty”?
It appears that many have not. I think it’s because they believe nothing like this could ever happen to them.
So many armchair detectives with tunnel vision. I’m very interested in watching coverage to make an informed decision because right now there really is no way to be sure imo
Fax, I see people in the comments clearly not understand that the defense only have to poke holes and cause reasonable doubt and there is too much doubt at the moment, I feel like people are forgetting this
This was really good. I like both sides. This case is crazy. I just hope those families get justice and they get the right person. If it’s not BK, then they need to work on who it was. This is insane.
It's BK. Leta not kid ourselves. There is so much circumstantial evidence. .0001% doubt is beyond reasonable.
@@dank2171There actually isn’t. They’re only relying on dna. They said it was targeted, but still have yet to tell the public at least what the connection is.
@dank2171 The ONLY dna is touch dna? The touch dna was found on the inside of a snap button. How is that possible? Did BK kiss someone, and the that person licked the inside of the button?!?
@@dank2171Thank you I'm livid after listening to this woman for an hour 😡And reading comments how people actually think he's innocent.....it's disgusting 🤢 BK IS A COMPLETE PSYCHO PATH WHO DESERVES MAX D-SENTENCE
@@darlingnikki_007thank you...at least others here make sense
He is either not listening or not getting anything she is saying about DNA. It’s not even funny
This debate is fascinating. And this lady is good. I’d be very happy with her defense
Andrea Burkhards was an excellent guest. Lots to learn from her.
Never heard of Jesse Webber prior to this case but wow, could he be any more biased? His guest explains multiple ways the DNA could have been on the sheath and he completely ignores every point she made and repeats himself not taking anything she just said into account. Not sure if this guy considers himself a journalist or not but at least pretend to have a trace of objectivity.
Jesse Webber is also a lawyer, as well as a journalist, isn’t he? Yeah, this wasn’t him at his best, by far. I agree with you.
It's how good interviewing works. You don't want an echo chamber. You present one side and let the guest present the countering side.
as Andrea kept destroying him, he thought being louder and interrupting could help his case😂
Echo chamber? Really? 99.99% of mainstream media coverage has already convicted him. This guest was a breath of fresh air and calmly presented multiple holes in the narrative. How would contemplating her points be an echo chamber?
@@Broseph4245 it's literally why I said it's 'good interviewing'. Because 99% of media IS an echo chamber
Great job Andrea, nice to see your input on Law And Crime!
I love Andrea Burkhart. I could listen to her for days.
I cannot with him always interrupting her when she’s talking, let her talk!
Nobody goes back to sleep After seeing someone in their house and calls police 8 hours later
Great guest - you should let her finish her points!
I’ve never seen Jesse be so confrontational, interesting
Great seeing Andrea on here, her legal plus area specific knowledge made this a very interesting debate. Thank you
Had to watch it twice how good this was. Thank you both. Amazing debate ❤️
Eye witness "description" from a drunk/high party girl... who didn't even call the police until 8 hours later------ doesn't mean much.... the description is vague and probably would describe 1/2 of the dudes that were partying in the house the night before 🙄
How many of those have dna and blood at the scene ? While claiming to not be there
@@holliedollie799he left no blood at the scene. It was transfer dna. The lawyer in this video clearly stated how no direct dna (blood, body fluids) of the killer were found at the scene. At least not that anyone knows of at this time. That could be evidence the prosecutors are sitting on.
Dude, when she’s talking let her finish her thought before saying “but the idea of the car but the idea of the car but the idea of the car but the idea of the car” over and over until she’s forced to stop talking. Rude.
I know. I didn’t like that
thats what happens when you're getting desperate lol
8:53, the man just said it himself it was placed there. So maybe it was sometime during the 10 hours before the police were called it could have been placed there. Too many people went in and out that house before LE was even notified. There is too much reasonable doubt on this case. That's my opinion.
Yep
I agree. I don’t think Bryan committed these murders.
@@bbe3034 😂
dude, i dont know if it’s the connection delay or time constraint but just let her finish the point 😂
This guy needs to learn how to let his guest or cohost finish her sentence without yelling over her. It’s very annoying and unprofessional.
Again Jesse- do your homework on touch DNA vs serum DNA. It will help you a lot.
Jesse is blind as a bat and shouldn’t be on a huge platform discussing dna 😅😅😅
Thank you for adding some common sense to this case. There are too many tin hat communities who have hyper focused on minuet details they have zero understanding of. The simplest explanation is often the right one let’s not forget.
Yes. Nearly every video I watch about this case there's several people who repeatedly post the same comment stating Bryan us innocent. Their 'facts' are starkly different from what I'm hearing from the evidence.
Other than the trace DNA which is not reliable the Prosecution has no other evidence. The pings are not credible as LE admitted error on one ping in the PCA so all pings are questionable. LE cannot demonstrate that was BK Elantra no evidence to show he parked or even entered the house. There's no smoking gun all the evidence LE has is in the PCA and that is circumstantial. Seems you are the delusional one.
yup all evidence shows 2 roommates are txting each other and clean up for 8 hours after the murder. its called Occam's razor..its sick the innocent Kohberger is dragged into this
Ockham's razor
@@Leaschmid7😂😂😂😂 He’s guilty !!!
I agree with yur guest ... 💯 ... i hope they have more evidence, because all this is weak
Jesse annoys me. He doesnt let people speak he overtalks people and interupts all the time. He needs to let people finish and not interupt there train of thought. Btw this defense lawyer andrea is brilliant.
Great conversation! Totally disagree with the "expert" that if DNA is thrown out then there is no case. There is ALL the circumstantial evidence of him stalking the crime scene and the victims. That debunks any theory that he was being set up or it was someone else. She is doing some fantastic mental gymnastics to believe that the vehicle and the rest of the circumstantial evidence fits her narrative.
We do not know what evidence the prosecution has to offer. Everything here is pure speculation unless based on the indictment and search warrant.
It also requires some mental gymnastics to explain the roommates not calling LE for over 8 hours after the victims were killed. Also the total lack of DNA in his car, apartments, offices, storages etc. With no evidence of cleaning.
There’s just something about this case and the Delphi case. Like something is missing in each one , but I can’t put my finger on it.
Imagine BK taking on both E & X at the same time & not having his dna under their nails or on their hands 👉as for Delphi 👉they say RA controlled BOTH girls bc he had a ‘gun!’ Now, the girls would’ve known they’re going to die & you know darn well they’d take their chances & both either try & jump him or at least 1 run away for help👉they too were slashed to death & not shot (Why woukd RA have both a knife & a gun👉idk of one case where a killer brought both weapons) and neither girl had RA’s dna under their nails & both girls did not choose to allow RA to kill them one by one👉there are at least 2 killers in both of these cases👉RA didn’t have the health to kill one & then chase after the other & neither girl was shot 👉and so, you know E & X would’ve heard K & M being murdered & would’ve certainly gained the upper hand on BK bc they would’ve been ready so DM’s story line is BS in that E & X we’re slain last bc They had enough time to have heard the fight upstairs & be able to lock their door & call 911 bf BK had time to break down the door which wasn’t broke down & the fight occurred in X’s room so only someone trusted could’ve accessed their room👉what you can’t put ur finger in is that we have 2 people sitting in jail for murders that no victim has the killers dna on their bodies after malicious attacks, as if they were first incapacitated & unable to fight back…..or most likely, there was more than one killer which makes the most sense in BOTH cases (in the Delphi case: there were 2 females in the location the girls were last noted (Chyenne & Cheryl) & eye witness stated there was also a male & female arguing under the bridge near the crime scene👉this is within the hour of the estimated time of death of the girls👉Could the attack on the girls have been occurring under the bridge while RA was crossing & the 2 young ladies have Libby’s phone & recorded RA & that is why Libby’s phone was found on her instead of the killer getting rid of it?! 👉the scenario of these other 4 possibly being the killers makes more sense (fits the younger sketch profile) rather than loner RA, who allegedly couldn’t make up his mind to use the gun or the knife but ended up choosing the knife 👉who knows, maybe one of RA’s kids was involved & he’s taking the fall?! …and we know E & X we’re together & there’s no way BK took both on at the same time without escaping w some serious injuries let alone get his @&& kicked by the two👉I mean the four👉BK did not take out 4 to his 1👉There is no “beyond a reasonable doubt’ in either case👉and we all should keep in mind this could be one of us someday & Tis a great day, when cameras are allowed in court proceedings👉transparency is good & holding professionals accountable is even better
LE in both cases has have extremely tight lipped. So yes, there is a lot missing! Bc a lot hasn’t been revealed to the public yet
this stuff is so tricky! I wish they could get a confession! If he’s innocent but charged is just sooooo terrible but let go and did it is just horrible!
have you ever tried not talking over your guest while they're making valid points that are different than yours?
Loved this one! Glad they’re airing the trial on RUclips it should be made public. Crazy to think that if KB is exonerated the killer is walking amongst us. So so many questions still need answered. Ultimately hope justice is served for the victims and the correct person is put away.
pretty sure Killers are still walking amoungst us. BK is 100% innocent. there is almost zero evidence against him here
Yeah KB will be walking amongst us
The evidence is overwhelming.
Don’t they get money on RUclips for how many people watch. It’s a high profile case he will have a lot of people watching.
You mean killer(s)
Andrea is intelligent, articulate, and knowledgeable. However, trying to make a case that BK's DNA happened to transfer to a knife sheath, which was found under a victim, is ludicrous. It's grasping at straws to trying to explain that away.
If their so-called dna testing kit could find that, why can't their little tool find anything else anywhere in the apartment. It makes no sense!
Not guilty
@@Originalman144 Or BK's vehicle for that matter. This woman does this for a living not to mention went to school for years for this. She accurately has her hand on the pulse of what is going on.
@@lstruggy you just saying that doesn't make it true, it just makes you an idi0t....
That boy is guilty as the day is long. Narcissist & sociopath
Being a college myself, to drive around at night like 2am is not unusual at all. Door dash still delivery food at 2am!
What is the FBI hiding?
the killers
Love the conversation, however, not the biggest fan of how often the host talks over the other person 🤨
If you are going to have a guest on your show, please don't talk over her every 15 seconds. Thanks.
Love this episode please bring her back on in the future!!!
She was fantastic. I have seen her on some podcast a while back.
Doubt he will anytime soon after she demolished him.
@@Broseph4245 she did!