NOT A KING RANCH and why! My 2024 Ford F450 build! Very Specific Reasons.
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As a super duty owner, I still think the carpet delete is still one of the best “options” you can spec into a truck. I love having a high trim level F350, but no carpet to get filthy from kids,dogs,camping, etc. I’m excited to see your new rig arrive.
The F450 is an incredible truck. Congrats!
Dealing with the general public selling a vehicle these days sounds like not a ton of fun. I'd trade it in.
Not me. I'd never trade it in. An F450 is easily worth $10K TO $15K more as a private seller than as a trade in. I've sold dozens of vehicles private party. I've not had to deal with idiot low ballers because I don't use the free ads like Marketplace or CL. Paid ads tend to bring in real buyers. JD says it has an $80k trade in value, but I'd want to see that in writing. I doubt the dealer will actually pay $80k, unless that includes the tax credit. I'm a dealer and I calculated a trade in of about $70k.
You'll take a small hit, but the ass-pain you miss out on makes it worth it lol
Congrats!! I'm a RAM guy but the F450 is in it's own class. You'd be crazy not to trade it in especially post the covid mess. My 18 Ram 2500 fully loaded CTD Laramie Mega Cab is worth more than what I paid for it new in 2018. You bet when the right circumstance comes up it will get "refreshed" even though I love my truck immensely.
I have a 2020 Platinum F350 SRW - had to replace an LED taillight - cost was over $1400 at the end of the day. The plastic housing had cracked exposing it to rain. Congrats on your upcoming truck build! These trucks really hold their value these days too - glad your current truck is worth so much - that makes this a no-brainer.
Mark, I don’t know you from Adam, but thank you for leaving JD such a nice comment. After seeing all the haters, it’s nice to see someone leave a genuine kind comment. Gives me a little faith in humanity
For the price you should have gotten the carpet delete. Best option I’ve ever put in my trucks.
Hey man, that is going to be an epic truck. My opinion is leave everything on your trade-in and start out fresh with a new truck.
We ordered almost the same truck on 9/25...even the color with no sun roof. Our build date slipped to 12/18 and just improved to 12/4. 👍🏻👍🏻
I am surprised you didn't option in the PTO output for the transmission. You can add some extremely nice size generators to the underside of the truck with it. I have seen F450's with up to 60KW units. Would be nice to have in emergency times. I am going to add one when I get a new truck for sure. Having the ability to have mobile 60KW unit that is attached and be able to use at any point is great. Keep up the good work sir!
Never thought of it for emerg. power, which is a great idea haha
@@gailmail1 it’s not the most efficient having to high idle the truck but during emergencies it doesn’t matter much. Also with larger fuel tanks or auxiliary tanks the run time could be quite long. With JD on the coast it could come in handy. 👍
Do you have any link or info on these underside generators you could share?
@@KyleSonSprayFoamInsulation Can search for REAL POWER Chassis-Mounted PTO Powered AC Generators.
I would sell the 2017 as is and start fresh.
Just hope you have an honest dealer. There are more than a few stories of people ordering vehicles through their dealer, then the dealer tried to pull one of those $10K+ "market adjustments" once the vehicle arrived.
New accessories for new truck. Some of the old accessories might fit but then you have old parts on a new truck. It isn’t worth the trouble. Besides, installing new accessories makes for great content. I’ve learned so much watching you install the accessories on your current truck.
Congratulations 🎉. It’s a beautiful truck. I would say you should start your build over and let the other truck go as is. I’ve recently been down this road. One thing is for the air compressor and stuff your getting a brand new truck why would you want to put “used” stuff on the new truck. Your better off trading it in it’s easy and a guaranteed done deal and you can drive it right til the end. Vs if you wanted that money up front for the new one. Another plus with starting the new build is the new products you could now choose and feature.
This is fantastic information. Wife and I are beginning our pre-retirement in 2 years. Just paid off both cars and all CC’s. Buying 5th wheel in about 3 years from now. This is the exact truck I’m pricing now. I am going to subscribe your 5th wheel reviews are what I’m watching every night, LOL Big fan, not a creeper
Thank you my friend.
I had order my 2024 SuperDuty F-450 Limited on 07/18/2023 and now I have my build scheduled for production on 04/22/2024 it took 8+ months and I am excited!
For that price difference it’d be crazy not to trade up. As for bumpers you’ll definitly need new ones. Congratulations
I felt blessed to find a leftover 2022 dually that needed to be sold before they delivered the 2023s. I did ok on the sale, but I needed the truck so what are you going to do. I did this just last February, while I was in .... Texas! I called my local dealer here in Northeast Ohio about ordering a '23. He told me then (Jan/Feb) that I might have to wait till 2024. When he asked me why, I told him unsold '22 duallys were showing up everywhere around me in near Dallas/Ft. Worth area. His exact words to me were, "I haven't been able to get a dually for 2 years. If I were you ....". I will say, I loved my old Ruby Red truck. But I don't care for the rapid red. I found a Tri-White Lariat. I wanted the LED lights, but you get what you get when Ford really restricted LED lights that year. Enjoy your new ride!
Mines a 21 f350 I'm not due until the 25-26 model year , I always go xlt I'm not a fan of leather seats, looks like a nice truck ya got coming
I bought mine at
17 Platinum F450 I bought a month or two before you bought yours absolutely love the truck I paid 88,000 and some change for it and sold it last year for 77,000 so the truck costed me 11,000 for 6 years a 24 limited is what coming up next
I still find it crazy that trucks and SUV's from the Big 3 can now be easily spec'ed to cost over $100k. It doesn't seem that long ago when TFL made a big deal over the first one to be capable of that (I think it actually might have been an F-series truck or the Raptor). Though I can also remember a time when you could buy a nice house for $100k, and I'm only in my early 30's.
You're right- if I recall it was in 2019 or so- whenever Ford first released the Limited trim for the superduty. F450 limited was the first truck from the big 3 to hit $100K
I am sure there are plenty of places you can still buy a nice house for $100k. It just might not be anywhere you want to live.😉
Yep my first home in 2008 was $120k. 1600 sqft and was built in 2003
$1800 a month for 5 years. That's insane. Fewer and fewer people are able to afford these. The truck makers are going to be in trouble eventually.
Not many people can afford 100,000 dollar truck. You make it sound like it's easy to buy a new truck. Your 2017 F450 isn't worth 80,00 .You're living in a dream world. The common working man is out of the truck market.
JD, I would trade the truck in. Selling a vehicle to the public is a pain. I would take the air compressor and airbags off of your old truck, but leave everything else. I had to deal with a similar situation when I traded in my old Ram 3500 in on my new 3500. I went from a loaded 2018 Laramie to a 2022 loaded Limited Longhorn. The dealership gave me what I paid for my old truck and they had the new truck below MSRP. Who wouldn't buy the new truck? I can't wait to see your new truck on your channel.
Hey I work at the Kentucky truck plant on the CMA line (cooling module assembly) depending on the day/time I’ll be assembling part of your truck with great pride! Love your videos.
Heck yeah! If you know it's mine, leave a note! I'll show it on the channel brother.
That makes a lot of sense and I’m happy for you. I might do the same thing I have about 17 F350 platinum if I can get closer 60 grand for it I’m gonna do the same thing.
I took delivery of a '23 F250 SRW Lariat in May of this year and really enjoy it. The 6.7HO coupled to the 10 speed transmission is the towing dream team. And when you factor in all the ways the vehicle systems are interconnected, it makes towing even more fun.
I traded my Rapid Red '21 F250 Lariat with the diesel and 10 speed and got $62,000...making the $87,500 price tag somewhat more palatable. I know I'm lying to myself but it helps me not cry when writing the check.
I'm a carpet delete guy that loves to drive so I opt for fewer "driving aids" so I don't constantly have something dinging and/or vibrating. My "Lux" package Bronco is a serious case-in-point of too much junk...I recommend that others order the Mid package.
As far as cool options are concerned, the gooseneck/5th wheel prep kit is the best buy. Interestingly, the 5 plastic trim rings that fill the gaps between the bed floor and hitch components are not installed from the factory...so warm them up and be patient...they fit but you have to nearly turn them inside out.
You're gonna LOVE the retractable bed sidesteps...I'm 59 and "stocky" so it makes accessing the forward corners of the bed much easier and safer...
I'll look forward to seeing the new rig early next year.
I did the same thing over the years only with Cummins Ram trucks. Traded up every few years to get the latest and greatest. Had a 98 1/2 with the 24 valve 47RE trans, an 05 with 5.9 and 48RE transmission, an 08 with the 6.7 and 68RFE trans, and a 14 with the 6.7 and Aisin trans. New stuff is nice !!
We have the Carmelo in the wife's 22 Expedition Max Platinum, ordered it before Ford ever released the color in pictures, but couldn't be happier, we love the color
Keep your replacement Alcoa wheels and centramatic wheels.
Keeping the bumpers would be nice but figure different shape so may not be compatible.
Your build is exactly what I would do minus the color but with the supplemental heating. I am actually contemplating what your doing as I have a 2022 F450 Lariat. I am going to purchase a set of six Alcoa high polish wheels to allow for rotation of all six wheels.
I want to thank you for your content and honesty related to the 450 and the 350. I plan on purchasing a fifth wheel and seeing our GREAT NATION. Your view and information as well as opinion has allowed me to make a educated decision related to my plans.
THANK YOU and keep up your GREAT content.
Good health and safety to you and your family.
Hey, JD God bless your new truck. I hope you and your family thoroughly enjoy it. Can't wait to see the contact you're gonna make with it. It's a beautiful truck.
I ordered a platinum f450 Sept 2023 and it's finally gonna deliver tomorrow. It just made the cut to be built this year
Let the haters hate. I never understood that either. As far as the upgrades on the current truck, only remove the ones you can reuse on the new rig or on a different vehicle you have in your collection, leave the rest for the new owner.
Great content. Really appreciate your efforts.
Thats kinda what I fell into as well, I ordered a 2023 in October of 22, and it was never going to get built. So I ordered a 2024 , and thought the same thing, I don't want a 2023 at the end of 23. Now we all wait , due to the strike and product shortage I can only hope to have ours built by Jan or Feb of 2024. We ordered a 350 Platinum and added all the little things so it was road ready when it came, I guess we'll see if that slows it down.
Wow, that trade in value has me thinking about trading in mine for a 2024.
I’d say pull off the mods and put them back on the new one.
Congratulations on the new truck JD I can't wait to see all the new videos.
Congrats on the new truck JD, looks great. I was in a simular situation, have a '19 F-350 King Ranch, wanted to order another one, but the lack of the LED lights turned me off so went with a '24 Platinum, ordered it back in August, not expecting it until Jan-Feb (if then). For what it's worth there is a YT channel, Long McArthur Ford out of Salina, KS & they do weekly updates on the production schedule of all the Ford models and constraints, I've found it helpful to get a feel of how the production process moves along. Congrats again on your new truck, I'm sure you will love it!
I got a 2023 f250 lariat just a few months ago with the Carmel interior. I love it! Besides me thinking it looks better than the black, you can notice a huge difference during the summer time with how hot it gets inside. Btw, for the price point I was trying to stay in, I chose the 2023 model gasser over a used diesel because of the changes in suspension. It’s a much smoother ride.
them are nice trucks!
This new truck will l be good for you and your channel. Leave all your upgrades and gadgets you had installed on your 2017. I'm sure there are new goodies out there for you to review and install on this new truck. My 2017 RAM 3500 Limited is paid off as well, but I don't think I'll be upgrading as I have just turned 200K miles on it, mostly highway. I maintain it very well and it still runs and functions like the day I bought it. I opted for the 3.42 rear gears which yield an average of 23mpg on the highway, while not towing. I love the H/O Cummins/Aisin package. My only upgrades have been Bilstein shocks and aftermarket 5th wheel prep, as RAM would not include it with the Ram Boxes.
Outstanding, enjoy the Platinum! Beautiful and feature packed! Red was a close 2nd, went with Carbon Grey.
I’d keep the few things that have higher replacement value than you’d recover resale or let go with trade-in and easy to remove.
Exp: Full set of Centramatic Balance Discs… easy $500-600 saved on next Truck. If same fit… tool box,etc but that may be enough off, not worth the time.
Removing compressor & bags, maybe.
I’d trade it in but there are folks that are hard looking. I have a ‘19 F450 Lariat and I’ve had dealers in FL offer me $80k for it. Had a resort site owner offer me $100k. But, he would not take advantage of me not having a truck to yank my 5th wheel around. Crazy market! Leave it all on there. Start fresh. Part of the fun is doing it all over again.
Bravo No Moon Roof!! Keep the Stuff on Big Red, so we can see what new things will be on your new truck. Congratulations
Excited to see your new bumper package, hopefully you will gets some nice aftermarket wheels this go around
That is a heck of a deal, with your trade in! Looking forward to whatever you do with the new truck!
A word of caution on the max recline seats. I got them in my 2023 F350 Lariat and I hate them. They are noticeably firmer than the normal bucket seats. You may want to go give it the butt test and sit in a one with max recline and one without.
Wow that's a great trade in value. You'd be foolish not to upgrade. Good for you that's awesome
Crazy, I ordered the exact same build, except color back on July 18th. I'm $810 lower than yours. Good luck on the resale of your current unit. I'm trading in a 2023 F350 Dully, for same reason.
You make reference to the sales tax issue in benefit of trade in vs selling outright. I know that you are in Texas and I’m in Arkansas but here in Arkansas you can retain the tax benefit by selling directly to another owner. To do so you only have to have the new owner sign an affidavit that he purchased the vehicle. You then turn this in to the department of revenue when licensing the new vehicle. The forms are available through the revenue department or online. You might want to check to see if Texas allows this.
I believethe axle ratio is 4:30 for the F450. I've looked at them for a long time. Actually ride smoother than any of the Big 3. Also the turning radius cor a full size dually pickup is phenomenal. I agree on the sunroof...don't want or need one, period. Me, I'd trade the truck in as is and start over...fresh. Hope it comes in early.
Great video explanation of your decision process. Lookin' forward to seeing the new truck.
I like that the sunroof is an option. I wouldn’t get one either. We opted against it in my wife’s explorer st when we ordered it so we don’t have to worry about issues down the road
You could order high trim 2023 F450s on October 27 2022, but they were not going to build them until Job 2. By January 2023 the order banks for the Platinum, and Limited trims and the F450 was closed.
Trade-in value really made the deal. As far as accessories, sounds like you need to do some research to see what will and wont transfer over. That's gonna make your decisions a lot easier. Not sure if your monitor, my monitor, your camera calibrations but that truck comes out looking a lot more orange on the screen than your present one. A lot of youtubers/reviewers wont talk about money, thanks for showing that part of it.
Two things… Maybe it isn’t worth it for you, but I declined the factory bedliner because I found a local place that used the same material as Ford for 2/3rds the cost of the factory option.
And maybe it’s not an issue anymore, but Ford was having trouble sourcing 5th wheel prep packages and it was delaying builds. With the aluminum body (and especially if you do it before you have a bedliner sprayed in) drilling into the bed to add it aftermarket can give you better options with no loss or risk.
The way Ford does their packages, if you buy a trim and then option it up with every option included in the next trim level, it's always cheaper to buy the next trim. Curious why you opted for the FX4? Doesn't it decrease payload/towing? The nice thing about opting for the Ford camera is it displays on the built in screen, instead of requiring an extra screen placed on the dash or windshield. Regarding the Pro Power... If they ever come out with a hybrid SD, they'll up the wattage. I think a hybrid SD would be awesome. Imaging normally having 1200 Lb ft of torque to the rear wheels with an additional 800 Lb ft from an electric motor up front. They'd have to beef up the frame even more to maintain the 5k Lb. payload with the additional weight, but it's doable. They'd offset some of the weight getting rid of the transfer case, front axle and driveshaft.
I just did the same thing. I traded my 21 F-250 XLT for a 23 350 Lariat with about the same OTD cost. I am leaving most of the aftermarket stuff on.
Congrats on the new truck … now the wait and delays begin
Didn’t realize you didn’t have adaptive cruise control. On my 2018 F450 Limited, I use the ACC every day. You will love it, esp now that it’s stop and go
Also, I believe 2024 Platinum and Limited have the LED projector, others have the reflector
Glad you went with the High output motor. I'm very interested in that motor so looking forward to your review of it!
Seems like a great option for 450 and 550 especially. But I am always cautious about getting something in its first year or two. Let them get the bugs, if any, out.
Can't wait to see the new truck. I'd sell the '17 outright.
We went with the RAM 3500 Longhorn Limited. Just overall a better truck for towing a 5th wheel. Interior was better and the ride was way better while unloaded.
I ordered 2023 F450 Limited and waited 14 months and jumped the ship to Ram 3500 Limited HO 6.7 DRW. You have lot less drama with Ram which it comes already with TPMS, Air Springs and don't need centramatic and better interior. F450 looks better from the front, back. I miss 10 speed. My last truck was 2020 F350 DRW 6.7 Lariat. So, mpg on empty on Ram is about 15 mpg when driving around 77 mph.
That’s going to be a very nice truck I can’t wait to see the first video you do on it!
Very nice looking new truck! It makes sense with what you are doing with a trade in. I would do the same thing myself. You get newer tech, newer engine and trans, and a warranty which is the most important.
I am waiting a bit before I upgrade my F250 SD. It’s a 2016 with 50k miles. Looking forward to see the rig.
Can't wait to see the new truck! Also, cant wait to hear your thoughts and a future reciew of the new Ram Charger! The initial details of the truck make a lot of sense and I cant wait for them to hit dealership lots!
Yes the used car market is really bad. It’s partly why I’ve not bought another vehicle. I’ve gone without a car now for 3.5 years.
I’d love to get another vehicle but with the higher prices it just doesn’t make sense.
Of course yes myself personally there is a separate issue I’m building a beach house and if you’ve been down that path yourself you know it a money pit. But yes it’s a worthwhile money pit but buying a car during isn’t a good idea. So I’ll wait. But great on you JD. Do the trade in it’s the best option for your situation.
And yes review what add ons you did that would make sense for you to remove.
Glad you are able to finally get your truck…. But I cannot afford these models anymore, so will live vicariously thru you I guess… these units are pretty much out of the average persons affordability scale lately…. Good luck and best wishes on your new ride…
That rapid red is much brighter than the ruby red, doesn't have the pearl or metallic effect of the ruby either. I hope you put eyes on a rapid red before deciding on it.
After I saw you were still getting red, the rest didn't matter. 😂 That is a great red.
If you trade it in, definitely pull all the aftermarket stuff off. You won't get anything for it. If you sell it private party, leave it all on. That could actually add a decent value for someone who's seen all the cool accessories you've added and wants a turn-key rig. I'm considering selling my Suburban and upgrading to an F-350 SRW in the next year or so.
start New with the air Bags, due to age, The paint is a touch different ,plus yours has been in the sun, SO NEW,
4.3 axle was on my 22
And I got leds all around on my kingranch ultimate
I think you made a great decision. I would do the same thing.
Pretty much same build as I did on my 2020 platinum 450 . Same color and I also deleted the sun roof that saved me money and gained some payload capacity. I also bought rear fender liners after I bought it and installed myself. I get offers for my 450 of right at 80 k and I payed 89k when I ordered it .
My dealership made a 2024 duplicate once order banks opened in July in case my 2023 wasn't made. That way my order would be in the first batch of 2024. They ended up building my 2023 on Sept 13 and I got it about a month later.
oil up them hinges on tailgates.i had a 2014 f 350 in shop this week it had the tailgate torsion rod asist it was literatlly welded to the left boxside support red heat from torch and a 5lb maul it refused to come off.we ended up cuting it off and found out inside the tailgate it hadnt worked in long time it was broke inside bottom of tailgate
Outstanding can't wait to c it in your Capable hands!!!
Love my new ford truck. Congrats, hard work pays off.
I just ordered a f450 King Ranch on December 20th, and they said you can expect it to come September 2024. I am upgrading from a Sierra 2500 at 4 2021.
My opinion. Updated truck. Get updated accessories. So you have no doubt they will work with the new truck. Plus. There might be even better accessories than what is on the old truck. Either way. I hope you get it and enjoy.
My thoughts on accessories, is to keep any toolboxes or other bed upgrades, but for the stuff underneath, you should go with new on a new truck.
If the dealer will give you what you want for a trade amount, trade it.
As far as the add ons, leave them. It’s a good opportunity to try new, or updated accessories.
I always order my trucks, never take one off the lot. My dealer told me that retail customer order builds take precedence over dealer inventory orders so that is probably what the order code is.
Leave the suspension stuff bumpers are probably not compatible. Looks like your in a good position for the trade. Hope all goes well.
Sunroofs are a complete waste of money for a south Texas truck. Nice build.
You can set up a deal with the dealer to sell to a private party and buy new in the same day, it will still save you the tax and the dealer gets financing kick backs. It will save you even more in taxes because you will get over trade in. Dealer can take a small commission in get a deal done in a day with no refurbishing or money tied up in inventory.
Nice build, well spec'd ! Totally makes sense to stay current with the technology..My 2020KR will be totally deprecated by 2025 with around 50K on her ,time to let her go,Also a cherry truck, spends its wi tens in Florida and summers in New England. Platinum seems like the way to go,
Get new everything, well mostly everything. Let's say you switch the air bags over, now you have used bags on a new truck. If a bag leaks because they are older you are going to regret just not going new. I ordered a 2024 king ranch 350 and decided to just buy new everything instead of using the parts off of my 2019 350 XLT. I just don't want to go through the Hassel of removing everything and then if theres issues with it on the brand new truck I would feel funny having to fix something or just end up buying it in the end. Just my thoughts.
On the priority codes, the lower the number the better. Only Ford corporate can lower the number below 10, 19 is the standard retail order number from the dealerships. Might be able to get them to put it at 11 and it should be pushed to the front of the line over other orders, but the issue is that it's a F-450 Platinum and very few have been built due to the shortages they have been having.
Thanks!
I'd pay the 20k difference just for the carmel color leather interior. Makes my 2017 (cloth interior rubber mat) F150 feel like a model T.
Awesome video! I would completely ask for them to upgrade your priority code number to a lower number especially since you had to reorder for a 2024.
I got lucky enough to get my 23 F350 Platinum a few weeks ago right before the strike.
I'm sure you could find a viewer offering 90K for that beast. I mean, I would if I had the means. How cool would that be to have such a famous truck? You even know all the maintenance and upgrades on it because there's videos of every one!
Damn! Those seats would give me something to think about if I were switching away from Chevy. My wife and i do lots of road trips without an RV.
I would love to see you do a video on how to build a F250 for a Airstream 27 . We are currently considering a F250 and an Airstream. Thank you for all this information.
I would probably buy the blue or the dark gray but the rest seems very good. 80K trade in is crazy. That's the reason the car market is so screwed up.
I would remove any aftermarket stuff and if you can reuse or even sell off rather than loose it with the dealer. Your never going to get a fair amount to cover it. Can't wait for your reveal :)
Very nice truck,and not a bad price can't wait to see it
I'm on a similar situation with my 2019 XLT FX4 Gas engine...if I was to trade for a new one, it would be around $20k balance owed. Crazy market!
Nice truck!! Thats a great trade value…sounds like a smart move to me!!
Very nice Truck JD!!! Can't wait to see it!!
If all the add ons with the '17 are cross compatible and aren't going to give you extra $$ then take them. The dealer will use them as a selling point and make money off that. Take what you can. Also take advantage of the take in price