Acorn to Arabella - Journey of a Wooden Boat - Episode 57: Bronze Floors

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • Floor timbers are a critically important structural member in wooden boats. As we've been building Arabella, there have been many decisions so far in terms of following the original plans or making slight adjustments. Each decision has pros and cons.
    When it came to the floor timbers, we felt the the wooden floor timbers she was designed with were actually very problematic.
    Wood floor timbers fastened through split frames cause a hard point and weaken the frame where they are connected. We therefore were pretty adamant about figuring out how to fabricate metal floors for her.
    Iron was not an option due to the galvanic reactions we have been meticulously avoiding so Silicon Bronze seemed to be the obvious choice. However, casting them was going to be difficult as well as potentially costly. We did more research and luckily came to find out that Bronze can actually be welded... so, that was one more thing we decided to teach ourselves and tackle!
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  • @jensbovbjerg9284
    @jensbovbjerg9284 5 лет назад +68

    A hint from a civil engineer:
    To avoid stress concentration allways make a "rat hole" in the corner where the bottom plate meets the side plates.
    This prevents a crack to start in the corner.

  • @rictus7222
    @rictus7222 5 лет назад +305

    Ben's doing excellent job matching your style I couldn't really tell the difference between y'all's and his. And I'm so excited for weekly videos. definitely means the project is on a fast track. You guys will be sailing soon enough.

  • @SteeleFarm
    @SteeleFarm 5 лет назад +276

    Ben did a great job. As did Lincoln Electric for helping you out!

    • @klopswasser
      @klopswasser 3 года назад

      Yes! thank you, Lincoln Electric! I still sometimes think about this sponsor-message, because it sounded so wild, first thanking them for the money and secondly for their health! I know he did the whole talk about that, but I still think of it as the "american" standpoint on the issue of healthcare vs. capitalism.
      Sorry if I sounde a bit like crazy but please think about this, even if you think it was dumb, because critical thinking is important.

  • @patmancrowley8509
    @patmancrowley8509 5 лет назад +363

    I would recommend that Alix and Stephen hammer their names into one of these bronze plates with the date of construction just for historical purposes.

    • @marcryvon
      @marcryvon 5 лет назад +17

      Good idea. Maybe even better, laser engraving their picture and their logo.

    • @harrygibus
      @harrygibus 5 лет назад +13

      By the time they are nearly finished welding they should be good enough to write it on one of the floors with the welder.

    • @Deano1948
      @Deano1948 5 лет назад +10

      @@marcryvon And for a 5000 dollar donation add in the sponsors initials!! :-)

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад +37

      haha
      Stamping one with the date and our initials could be cool to do.

    • @marcryvon
      @marcryvon 5 лет назад +4

      @@Deano1948
      Yeah, but done with class, small but classy.

  • @tommackay5671
    @tommackay5671 5 лет назад +10

    Excellent work on the project thus far, guys. If I may, a little advice regarding welding bronze: I am a steam fitter/pipe fitter by trade, and an engineer. In my work, I deal with high reliability welding daily with strict adherence to stringent code. To ensure the heat affected area of your bronze welds remains “normalized”, and to reduce embrittlement in the parent material, I suggest that after tacking, prior to weld out, preheat the entire work piece to 225-275 deg F, then proceed to weld. A propane tiger torch works best for this, and you can check your preheat with temp sticks (a wax like crayon) to ensure you are within the desired temp zone. Doing this will minimize inter crystalline embrittlement and, as an added benefit, enhance the bronze’ natural corrosion resistance. The temp isn’t super critical. The idea is, the base material will be moisture-free (hence hydrogen free) during the welding process. Hydrogen is the primary culprit in non-ferrous embrittlement. You may also find the Mig wire flows better than on cold material.
    Keep up the fantastic work!
    -Tom
    Alberta , Canada

  • @daddybearlv
    @daddybearlv Год назад

    This episode may have the best production value of all the episodes I’ve seen, including the launch.

  • @joebrown1382
    @joebrown1382 5 лет назад +97

    Thank you Lincoln Electric for keeping the boys safe. Weekly videos woohoo! Editing looks great everything we need to know, thanks Ben.

  • @allenrussell7701
    @allenrussell7701 3 года назад

    You Yankees are doing an admirable job. I admire your courage and skill. I am 81 yrs. old, and appreciate your dedication. I envy you.

  • @forghy
    @forghy 5 лет назад +5

    I appreciated Ben's editing: clean, effective while keeping the same "mood" of previous videos. You can definitely tell he knows what he's doing.
    I do also commend Lincoln for being so supportive to you (and to other youtubers I like). Their products seem great and their service seems even better.
    If I ever need a welder, Lincoln is on top of my shortlist.

  • @s00p3rman
    @s00p3rman 5 лет назад

    200 years from now this boat will still be sailing the seven seas. Amazing craftsmanship.

  • @tattooeddragon
    @tattooeddragon 5 лет назад +3

    I have been a huge fan of your channel and your project from the beginning! What I like most about this video is how you addressed the naysayers by simply telling them "Thanks for the concern, but we are doing what we want". Never compromise your dream, vision or integrity to please others. Keep up the great work!

    • @sleesanders6064
      @sleesanders6064 5 лет назад +1

      Tattooed Dragon agreed. Keep to your dream guys.

  • @yorweth1
    @yorweth1 5 лет назад

    As a mechanical engineer for 50 years im in awe of you skill and commonsense . keep on doing what you doing

  • @TheArtofBoatBuilding
    @TheArtofBoatBuilding 5 лет назад +75

    The bronze floors are looking great. This was a very sound decision, you are truly building a boat for the ages!! (welds like Butter)

  • @francescosirotti8178
    @francescosirotti8178 5 лет назад +1

    An applause for Ben's work. You guys are a wonderful team.

  • @Ray_Sellner
    @Ray_Sellner 5 лет назад +21

    Props to Lincoln Electric. Love my little power mig.

  • @fuffoon
    @fuffoon 5 лет назад

    This series kept me awake all night. Its a beautiful example of the real cost of a one off.

  • @Jverzier
    @Jverzier 5 лет назад +15

    Excellent job, all of you. Thanks to Ben's editing and Lincoln Electric for providing! Cheers from France

  • @evilmandarin1
    @evilmandarin1 5 лет назад +2

    Ben's addition to the team has given your video an edge over your old process! I noticed no change to the content value but an improvement in continuity! he's an added asset! Another excellent episode and overflowing with info! Thanks guys!

  • @Gottenhimfella
    @Gottenhimfella 5 лет назад +3

    Spontaneous rousing cheer from me at 5:25 when you came up with the "two piece" baseplate, I had been hoping and praying you'd come up with that solution. Yay! ALSO, ON EDIT:
    13:59 Diagonal bronze straps -- DOUBLE YAY! Up until the USS Constitution, wooden shipbuilders were perversely intent on ignoring the customer feedback from sailors who knew that a sailing ship built along traditional lines was a death trap when bad conditions cause strong fore and aft movement of the masts. The planking behaves like a deck of playing cards, with holes drilled through for masts. The planks are tied together at a set distance by the frames, but with no diagonals running fore and aft, each row of planks can move forward with respect to the row beneath, squashing the caulking every time a head sea or a squall from astern strikes.
    When the pressure is momentarily released as the masts come back vertical, the gap between the planks is reestablished but the cotton caulking does not have time to swell, so it is no longer tightly fitting, and becomes free to move sideways. During periods of bad weather, ships would routinely spit out whole lengths of caulking, and if there were not sufficient resources to keep the pumps running until it could be repaired, the ship would founder.
    This has been known to sailors since biblical times, and in bad conditions, or with old caulking no longer sufficiently elastic to stay in place, they would temporarily "frap" the hull with diagonal cables (often the anchor cable) and/or fit extra fore and aft diagonal rigging (intermediate forestays and backstays) to try to prevent the masts from exerting shear forces on the hull in that weak plane. Unfortunately, ship builders are notoriously conservative and disinclined to listen to others.
    The first wooden warship to remedy this oversight was outstandingly successful in surviving not just storms but battles at sea, but even then, the first refit of the Constitution saw the builders set aside the diagonal wrought-iron straps the naval architect had specified with such good results. "What in tarnation were these ever supposed to prove?" you can imagine them saying. "Plum fools sitting at their fancy desks! etc etc.

    • @graemelliott3942
      @graemelliott3942 5 лет назад

      Gottenhimfella I’ve seen some S&S yachts have long diagonal stainless steel straps across frames in the interior. I was always wondering what they were for and your explanation told me. Thank You

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад +3

      They are supposed to make a HUGE difference for the longevity of the boat and it makes total sense why that would be true. They are easy enough to install so why not?

  • @robwgeorge
    @robwgeorge 4 года назад

    Those plates look like awards for your hard work

  • @barrylukebuilds7894
    @barrylukebuilds7894 5 лет назад +52

    A damp rag is a quick and easy way to protect from welding splatter.
    Enjoying your project!

    • @fridaynightgamefilm
      @fridaynightgamefilm 5 лет назад +5

      Or a couple of layers of heavy duty aluminum foil.

    • @petert3355
      @petert3355 5 лет назад +2

      I've even heard of people using raw leather, basically just the blue hide, as a blanket when welding. It's very fire resistant, supple and not overly expensive to get.
      I'm sure there are a lot of other options, disposable and reusable as well, for what they are trying to achieve.

    • @milesfroberg2970
      @milesfroberg2970 5 лет назад +1

      Use an acetylene torch without oxygen and blacken area with soot.

    • @barrykarow906
      @barrykarow906 5 лет назад +1

      Would plain sand be a possible protector for the keel. Cheap and readily available.

    • @barrylukebuilds7894
      @barrylukebuilds7894 5 лет назад

      @Cataclysm Oooooooo!

  • @christopherrevels5967
    @christopherrevels5967 5 лет назад

    As a 35 year journeyman carpenter millwright I am very impressed with your use of wood to figure out what you want to do I love it I want to build my own wooden boat and I always have. Great job you guys I am following along...lol

  • @spencealmighty
    @spencealmighty 5 лет назад +3

    Im really enjoying this series - thanks from Australia

    • @Mattski_83
      @Mattski_83 5 лет назад

      I agree (from Australia)

    • @matc87
      @matc87 5 лет назад

      I second that to (Australia🤘)

    • @scottrowlings5345
      @scottrowlings5345 5 лет назад

      I third that (from Australia)

  • @lifestyledesignsincnelsonc7831
    @lifestyledesignsincnelsonc7831 3 года назад

    Your speech starting at 14:18 is priceless! Thank you brother.

  • @nic_the_aged_woodworker
    @nic_the_aged_woodworker 5 лет назад +6

    Echoing other comments on Ben's editing style, as far as I can tell it's a seamless flow.
    Really looking forward to weekly videos.
    Please carry on exactly as you have been, your style is really enjoyable not to say educational

  • @MrRourk
    @MrRourk 5 лет назад

    You guys would be surprised how strong glassed over wood is. The camera and editing is spot on!

  • @Melli0110
    @Melli0110 5 лет назад +22

    Nice Work on the video!
    I would love to see a (short) compilation of timelapses of taking apart Victoria, once she is fully disassembled.... maybe even in reverse, so it looks like she is beeing put together... that might look cool

  • @boboyle421
    @boboyle421 5 лет назад

    Hats off to Lincoln and Ben. Well done.

  • @bullettube9863
    @bullettube9863 5 лет назад +4

    Great job guys! I'm not surprised Lincoln helped you out, when I worked in a shop they were always helpful. BTW People have been welding bronze propellers for the last 50 years, so welding up those supports is fine, and don't worry about over engineering, no one has ever regretted over engineering anything! It's the under engineered projects that fail and cost more in the long run!

  • @nidalshehadeh6001
    @nidalshehadeh6001 5 лет назад +1

    I don't know if you noticed , you all about to start a peaceful movement ,
    you're definitely Breeze of fresh air far away from war and misery that we see on the news everyday ,
    I really hope you have a book project in mind ,
    I wish you the best and may we see you on the high seas enjoying the best of times .

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks you!
      One of the goals for the videos is to provide some hopefully drama free, educational, interesting and hopefully inspirational content. You are right, if you look at the news it's just doom and gloom, hopefully that starts to change. After all the world is full of kind and generous people and we all do a lot better if we work together instead of always competing with one another!

    • @nidalshehadeh6001
      @nidalshehadeh6001 5 лет назад +1

      @@AcornToArabella
      I could not have said it better myself ,
      please keep in mind that you all represent a positive image of a certain segments in society ,
      this world could use more peaceful dreamers like you ,
      my grandfather was born into war so did my father and I ....unfortunately in the Middle East we have no concept what peaceful coexistence means... in which someone can dream and follow his peaceful Karma uninterrupted by War , as we say in the Middle East ,
      " the holiest lands and the worst problems "
      looking forward to hear see and read about a peaceful fantastic Journey that you are going to take all around the planet as ambassadors of peace ,
      God bless

  • @LadyDewBuild
    @LadyDewBuild 5 лет назад +4

    So much thought goes into every detail of this vessel, Arabella will be epic.

  • @johnkmcgregor5209
    @johnkmcgregor5209 4 года назад

    Pause for a moment, in three days I have watched 59 episodes of Acorn to Arabella. Boy do I think I know everything about boat building, doh. Thank goodness I live far away in Scotland or I would be on my way there there to help out and show my expertise. Ps I have only ever been on a Loch (lake) in a trout fishing dinghy. I feel as if I have been brain washed. And you know what I am loving every minute. thanks guys. John 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @derekmills5394
    @derekmills5394 5 лет назад +31

    Nice work Ben! Great to hear them moan about the shots and angles you wanted - means you are being effective in making changes. You nailed the style too.

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад +2

      Alix does the shooting, it was Alix who told Steve to get in the bilge. Haha
      Ben then edits the footage Alix shot and directed.

  • @E30_Eric
    @E30_Eric 5 лет назад

    You guys really do care about what the FB and RUclips comments say, thank you so much for addressing the comments and taking the time to build Arabella properly. I know that us engineers can be critical and negative - the comments feel like a design review - but keep up the amazing work and building her as you feel is best.

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад

      They are like a design review! It takes time but it is worth doing, we have learned a lot from the comments!

  • @michaelbarras6950
    @michaelbarras6950 5 лет назад +8

    I agree, people go on (pointing out)way to much about what they see.
    Nothing about building boats and ships are safe! I think these guys do a mighty fine job! Kudos!
    From a retired ship builder!😁

    • @alakani
      @alakani 5 лет назад +2

      Building ships is still safer than driving in California traffic :P

    • @peterwelsh6975
      @peterwelsh6975 5 лет назад +1

      All these safe people sitting behind their keyboards getting fat, telling the DOERs what they're doing unsafely.

  • @trygveskogsholm5963
    @trygveskogsholm5963 4 года назад

    I love those floor timbers, their strength and corrosion resistance fills me with the urge to kneel before them. I don't know how good you will be at sailing but you're building a very seaworthy boat.

  • @robertmalis4493
    @robertmalis4493 5 лет назад +7

    I couldn’t really tell the difference between Ben and you guys style of editing keep up the great work

  • @kmbrady1a
    @kmbrady1a 5 лет назад +2

    Your bronze floors will be one of the parts salvaged and used in the next generation boat built 150 years from now. Great job guys!

  • @waltherbudman144
    @waltherbudman144 5 лет назад +7

    Video style is FANTASTIC. Hard to see any differences in styles. Welds look GREAT! Do a salt-water weld test, to make sure no dis-similar metals , blah, blah, blah! BEAUTIFUL WORK !!!

  • @alienh1701
    @alienh1701 5 лет назад

    Love the edit on the vid and major thumbs up to Lincoln Electric for supporting you guys. So fun to see things moving forward.

  • @Nick-vs5wl
    @Nick-vs5wl 5 лет назад +25

    Great work!! Keep em coming, I cant wait for the weekly videos. Bens editing is looking beautiful and I think it matches your style very well!

  • @KenTrough
    @KenTrough 5 лет назад

    Ben! You did a fantastic job of respecting the previous style while improving it with enhanced camera angles, edits and overlays. Just so happy to see this upgrade on the overall project. I was happy to become a patreon to support this decision! It's just making everyone better!

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад

      Alix is still doing all the filming but since the editing is off his plate he can spend more time/energy getting the shots he needs. So far Alix and Ben are making a great video team!

  • @57dent
    @57dent 5 лет назад +11

    Bronze floors are looking amazing and Ben has done a great job of matching your style.
    Regarding the PPE, take a look at the RUclips channel Life on th Mold where he recently got the powered air mask you describe. There's a clip of him sanding fiberglass where he suddenly jumps up and runs away, tearing off the mask. He'd forgotten where the air intake was and had farted. Funniest thing I've seen on RUclips!

    • @Garryck-1
      @Garryck-1 5 лет назад +4

      Here he is, showing and describing the incident.. hilarious!
      ruclips.net/video/gOJmqLsiRjI/видео.htmlm57s

    • @atmm89
      @atmm89 5 лет назад +1

      I got a good laugh on that one

    • @pythongunner
      @pythongunner 5 лет назад +1

      Letting fluffy off the chain....good long laugh

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад

      LOL
      Thanks for the warning!

    • @nena4215
      @nena4215 5 лет назад

      Oh yeah that was so funny, never have I seen anything like that, he just cracks me up!

  • @mcshawnboy
    @mcshawnboy 5 лет назад +1

    I just happened across your videos last year about this time of year. While not having any of a maritime heritage like most kids I love the stories of Mark Twain and even how his nom de plume came about. A friend and I thought we were replicating the experience of a raft in the slag pond of a small steel factory in our town with mud pans and long poles we found. As my Dad studied for taking his practice to get his Master's degree in teaching at his union office in the middle of Baltimore across from the main branch of the Pratt Library where I was the equivalent of being babysat by the library staff until closing and we went home. I was such a regular customer that I was very privileged to have access to the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis or State Capital. They had an amazing collection of wooden models of many of the significant ship's of history. Not long after we had our bicentennial and the city built The Pride of Baltimore. Sadly it sunk and another was built. I'd a chance through a friend to talk to a guy who had sailed on both of them. His stories carried the lure of sea. We have The Constellation at the Inner Harbor that didn't turn out to be as old as The Constitution, but things get lost to history. Maryland is famous for the Baltimore Clipper that was the work boats of the fishing trade as well as cargo. I understand that in the docks of Fells Point there's a wooden boat building project to give some direction to young people. I was visiting “SHLSS” Piney Point doing a Revolutionary War reenactment and saw a wooden Coast Gaurd vessel that was used for the training of the trade. I would go with my family out on the Chesapeake Bay with a Captain that took groups out rock fishing and it was always fun. When I was learning to be a CDL Class A driver one of our instructors shared pictures of guys he met in Louisiana who just laid wooden beams on the ground and sketched out the design and put them up on blocks to take shape and be sold. While trucking I found out about a museum of the paddle- wheel steamer Arabia, near Kansas City. I was planning on going out to help with conserving of cargo for a museum of the boat when I retired from life on the road. But as is often the case something else happened to change my plans. It's got some New England ties related to the opposition to Slavery on one trip.
    Amazing, just like the journey that you are on. I'd been a carpenter when I was in Vo-Tech and there's something about solid wood construction that is very satisfying. Your guy doing video is a godsend to let you folks do what you do best! Carry on.

  • @jamesthorne2442
    @jamesthorne2442 5 лет назад +5

    thanks guys from NZ keep up the good work

  • @tickytacky8078
    @tickytacky8078 5 лет назад

    This boat will outlive your great great great grandchildren!

  • @shaneslad
    @shaneslad 5 лет назад +5

    Love that Lincoln Electric are helping you guys and the likes of @alecsteele ! I bet he’d love to forge something special for the Arabella.

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад

      That could be cool, not sure what we would need. Maybe a machete for the tropical coconuts?

    • @lukasdon0007
      @lukasdon0007 5 лет назад

      @@AcornToArabella Why not a nice hand-made Damascus steel chisel, spokeshave or adze?

  • @richardgrauer5040
    @richardgrauer5040 5 лет назад

    Bens work is great! Thanks to you all for making it visually clear and discussing reasons for your decisions.

  • @kutamsterdam
    @kutamsterdam 5 лет назад +28

    Nothing wrong with the video, looks great so keep them comin'!!.

  • @leesuschrist
    @leesuschrist 5 лет назад +2

    As a machinist and hobby fabricator, these latest episodes have gotten me really excited!

  • @alexaltrichter1597
    @alexaltrichter1597 5 лет назад +4

    Building anything of this size is inherently dangerous .You can only be so careful if you want to have any sort of production. It's not like you're standing on a 10 inch I-beam 30 stories up! Arabella is really starting to come together ,nice work.

  • @thomasarussellsr
    @thomasarussellsr 5 лет назад +2

    Awesome work around to the limber "dams". Also, I appreciate that, unlike many other channels, you don't sell tickets to your gatherings. A lot of channels charge a decent chunk of cash to buy the tickets and also use the ticket system to limit the number of attendees. Your, 'come as you are and BYOB' mentality makes it seem more welcoming and more like a family get together.
    You guys rock.

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks!
      It's a bit of a risk not knowing how many will show but we have a big property so we can fit a lot of people. So far everyone has been very well behaved, it's been a fun kid friendly event and like I said it's a big property, if anyone can't behave we can take care of it ;-)

  • @patrickcleland6065
    @patrickcleland6065 5 лет назад +3

    Minute 16:25 through 17:30....A- Freakin'----men!! I have also worked around equipment my whole life. Nobody wants to get injured, but holy crap. These "sammy safety" types would have the world grind to a near stop all the name of eliminating any and all risk. Good luck with that! Well said and keep up the great work.

  • @justingarrison4808
    @justingarrison4808 3 года назад

    I’m very impressed with your ability to learn new techniques and skills on the go, you use a great combination of skill and know how to tackle a new challenge. Great job Steve and Alix! Thank You for making such great content!

  • @robsycko
    @robsycko 5 лет назад +3

    Nailed it Ben! two thumbs up this video was one of the best so far nice work man grate job.

  • @NateGoesOutside
    @NateGoesOutside 5 лет назад +1

    Ben is killing it!

  • @caahacky
    @caahacky 5 лет назад +3

    The floors are excellent. The video is nice and long and informative. Thanks and good luck guys.

  • @scottswineford6714
    @scottswineford6714 5 лет назад

    I'm in awe of your ability to weld bronze! Mid 80s had to gas weld a very large statue in transportable sections. Hundreds of pounds of braising rod went into the thing, weeks of work trying to get/keep contaminates out all to be displayed for about 6 months in a second rate casino. Oh well, payed well.

  • @seancollins9745
    @seancollins9745 5 лет назад +19

    if you have concerns about cantilever loads on your bolt tabs, just add a small simple.gusset

    • @ChristianRahl
      @ChristianRahl 5 лет назад +3

      The only concern would be that the gusset could collect water. Defeating some of the purpose of the cut throughs. Secondly, the wings already act like a gusset.

    • @harrygibus
      @harrygibus 5 лет назад

      @@ChristianRahl I would have preferred to see them box the horizontals with 1/4" material on both sides of the wings and extend out to capture the sides of the frames (offer them extra support), of course that would have meant fasteners in the middle of the frame pockets again, but it seems like they could still avoid the frame fastenings by staying in the middle and inboard a bit on the bottom tabs. The two parallel surfaces would also provide a nice base for the floor beams to sit in if you rabbeted them on both sides. Maybe it will be better to have thicker material in the long run considering how much the bronze will oxidize.

    • @Gottenhimfella
      @Gottenhimfella 5 лет назад +4

      @@harrygibus I actually don't think it's desirable to have massively stiff reinforcements at the corners of an essentially flexible structure. In a worst case scenario (bouncing across a reef in plunging breakers, say) it's better that the floors yield slightly but remain fixed to the timbers, rather than shearing the fasteners or splitting them out of the frames and keel timbers. Bronze is an incredibly tough material (it can absorb large amounts of deformation energy before failure) which makes it a good match for timber provided it's used in simple shapes with few elements each of decent thickness, but not too much localised structural stiffness. Also, as you point out, there's theoretical merit in a substantial corrosion allowance, (although bronze quickly reaches a point where little more material is lost, as we see from ancient shipwrecks)
      It sounds in addition as if they're fitting bronze diagonal strapping to the hull, which relieves the floors of the loading which your concerns would otherwise address (shear in the fore and aft vertical plane)

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад +1

      The vertical plates should provide a stiff base down low where things are stiff anyways and the wings will give and move a bit with the frames. Like Gottenhimfella said bronze is tough and ductile, the tiny amount the wings will flex and move won't bother that thick bronze. A real stiff connection from frame to floor creates a hard spot and is not ideal, the frame to wing to plate help spread that out.

    • @harryhogenkamp1688
      @harryhogenkamp1688 5 лет назад

      Love the videos, old-school tools, and technical discussions - envious of your skill level and commitment! I was curious as to why the base plates weren't symmetric, with bolt holes on either side of the vertical plate. Probably even more overkill but would avoid any fulcrum problems. Possibly too stiff as you discussed above?

  • @ziaboi_6018
    @ziaboi_6018 5 лет назад

    Very good video, guys. The quality and continuity are first rate. Also, hats off to Stephen for the diplomatic, up-beat, yet firm way he addressed the opinions and advice you've been receiving on various safety-related topics. Masterful bit of communication, that.

  • @mmanut
    @mmanut 5 лет назад +3

    Great Video Guys, enjoyed the metal work‼️👍👍. Vinny 🇺🇸

  • @OleNavy
    @OleNavy 5 лет назад

    Safety is very important and it is good you mention the issues you encounter. I enjoy the actual work you do on the boat and prefer to see more of that than the explanations about you handle the many safety topics that present themselves in any industrial process. Lots of viewers and just as many recommendations and questions along those lines I suspect!!! Great video.

  • @paulbriant2067
    @paulbriant2067 5 лет назад +3

    Great video. A welder is on my list of tools to buy and when I do I will support the companies that support you and buy a Lincoln Electric welder.

  • @badcat4707
    @badcat4707 3 года назад

    Those Bronze floor parts will outlive everyone here by a hundred years at least !

  • @jaymelwill
    @jaymelwill 5 лет назад +5

    Easy to preach safety from behind a keyboard. Gotta love it. On that note, try welding without a shield, you'll be able to see the pieces better :)

  • @deej19142
    @deej19142 5 лет назад

    Back in 1985 I was an apprentice electrician working for a construction company on a job with 400 guys in all different trades. Because I was an ok welder, I was tasked with making all of the L brackets for the electricians for uni-strut, and cable tray systems. For several months I was fabricating 1/2 by 4 inch galvanized L brackets, and even though I was outside working on a large table, the gasses coming off the welds would still circle back around me and end up right under my hood at times. I ended up with galvanize poisoning bad enough that I ended up in the hospital. As a 19 year old kid, I really didn't know that this was a real hazard. for you guys I guess there is a balance between not wanting to have so much fan behind you that you lose the gas for that type of welding and not wanting to end up breathing it in. Just be careful. Love the project, and have watched from the beginning.

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад +1

      Sorry to hear you got Zinc poisoning! We hear that is no fun and are doing our best to avoid a similar situation. Thanks for sharing your story!

  • @stevebenz758
    @stevebenz758 5 лет назад +7

    Great video, nice job Ben. Keep it up guys!

  • @gkcooper
    @gkcooper 5 лет назад +1

    The video production is superb.

  • @sailingvesselsouthernlady447
    @sailingvesselsouthernlady447 5 лет назад +22

    That is truly an overkill bronze design......I love overkill because it covers dynamic shock loads and not just static loads. Videography is great but it was also great before!

    • @AY_______
      @AY_______ 5 лет назад

      If thoughtfully engineered in wood This can be equally structural

  • @graemeoliver744
    @graemeoliver744 5 лет назад

    The old boat guys don't understand how the younger generation has this amazing access to knowledge. Trust your research, you're obviously getting most of it right. Best video yet. Ben's doing a great job.

  • @BoxedGod
    @BoxedGod 5 лет назад +6

    Ben, If you chose the intro song you couldn't have chosen better. Some serious Norm Abram, New Yankee Workshop vibes. Props!

    • @southjerseysound7340
      @southjerseysound7340 5 лет назад

      @@MatthewMelson If you like old tools there is a guy on here with a steam powered workshop. His name/channel is Dave Richards and he does a ton of restorations etc using steam powered machine tools. Right now his videos are from his Florida shop but there's plenty from the Steam shop in Ney York State too.

  • @seandenny2412
    @seandenny2412 4 года назад

    Just think how good you’re going to be by the time you finish all of these, good job!

  • @dnickarz
    @dnickarz 5 лет назад +4

    Your welds are just fine. That'll do.

  • @simplicityisbliss
    @simplicityisbliss 5 лет назад +1

    I just love those people who think they're experts when they don't know what they're talking about or don't even bother to learn the proper way.
    AWESOME build guys! You're really impressive! 👍

  • @jonathancook4022
    @jonathancook4022 5 лет назад +3

    Yeah, the video quality and angle of shots is improved and their is no more or no little information than needed.

    • @polenotwall
      @polenotwall 5 лет назад +1

      Jonathan Cook Yes! It's odd that so many people said there was no difference in editing. There's is a big difference; many more cuts and variety of shots and great overlay of voiceover and video. Not that it was bad before, but is definitely better now. Just much more polished and complicated, which is just what you hope you get when you bring on a dedicated and talented person.

    • @jonathancook4022
      @jonathancook4022 5 лет назад +1

      polenotwall well I’m a video editor myself, so it would be bad of me not to comment and provide encouragement

    • @polenotwall
      @polenotwall 5 лет назад +1

      Jonathan Cook Same! Good editing is so easy to overlook. The difference between good and better and really good is hard for most folks to discern; it’s like 14, 16 & 18k gold - most folks just see gold, but all those cuts and perspectives and matches to what’s being said and what’s being done take time and effort. You’ve got a great eye to catch them!

    • @jonathancook4022
      @jonathancook4022 5 лет назад

      polenotwall thanks very much.
      Certainly I wasn’t always that good. Scroll through my channel and you will find some shockingly band videos from 8-10 years ago!!!

    • @quintondonleavy878
      @quintondonleavy878 5 лет назад

      @@jonathancook4022 It's good that those videos are "bad," it shows growth. Skills are only truly bad when they don't ever improve. I stand by my compliment!

  • @Mr650414
    @Mr650414 5 лет назад +2

    Now this team are moving forward at a decent speed,great job all!

  • @mickcoomer9714
    @mickcoomer9714 5 лет назад +4

    Going to sea in a home made boat. ( yes I know it’s built to beat a typhoon into submission). People need to get real about risks. You are responsible for your own actions. A fume extractor May make it more pleasant to work. A 4” pipe and a fan pulling the air would do the job without costing a fortune.
    There’s more risk with the long handle on the press.

  • @michaelallsop3105
    @michaelallsop3105 4 года назад

    Indeed this Doc has kept Me Looking, at You Guy's Building This Boat. Indeed You's are RockStars for the Curative Way You are approaching The Tasks and The Abilty To Thinks outside the Box Add all the right Spice to The Build. Thanks for the Share Truly Real Americana Lore. Yah Guide and Abide With The Crew as You Pour, Your Art's, Craft and Passion into The Arabella.

  • @michaelvangundy226
    @michaelvangundy226 5 лет назад +16

    What about conduit, fuel lines, water pipe, waste pipe, depth sounder, anything that runs the length of the boat. Do they run down the bilge?
    PS there are sprays like splatter guard that make clean up easier.

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад +3

      They will run just under the floor boards or even behind the lockers and such. Basically as far away from the damp/wet bilge as possible!

  • @SteveP-vm1uc
    @SteveP-vm1uc 5 лет назад +1

    BIG props to the new video guy and also Lincoln Electric. I also have a Lincoln and had an issue with it last summer. I made a call to them and they had me up and running in just a few minutes.. Great company with really caring people... And man,,,, all the way from GERMANY!!! HUGE PROPS!!!!!!!!!!

  • @alexreeve
    @alexreeve 5 лет назад +14

    Ok keyboard warriors.. when the german guy says it "should be" strong enough, it IS strong enough ;) ;) ;) ;)

    • @MrRourk
      @MrRourk 5 лет назад

      For the Bronze doubtful ruclips.net/video/WQNxUo0pJM4/видео.html

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад +1

      Cool info, thanks for sharing! Wonder if our bronze floors will be in use in 3k years haha!

    • @MaShcode
      @MaShcode 5 лет назад +5

      Yeah good points. The Germans overbuild everything. Printing presses. Cars. Look at sauerkraut. That shit lasts like forever.

  • @John-B69692
    @John-B69692 5 лет назад +1

    Hi guys... good to see the progress on the bilge braces. Bronze is always a sexy addition to a boat. How about using some fiberglass cloth to protect/deflect against the welding sparks. It does not burn and you don't have to wet it. Cheap oven pans or pieces of sheet metal could work too. As far as your bronze welding fumes problem, how about sucking the vapors away with a shop vac... you know... with a long 2 inch hose and a makeshift funnel / fume hood... just put the vac in another room /outside wherever so it's not too loud. Then you don't have to wear a bunch of PPE. Just a thought. Love the videos..

  • @ctlaurin
    @ctlaurin 5 лет назад +4

    What kind of beer do you guys like?

    • @brinjoness3386
      @brinjoness3386 5 лет назад

      Free and alcoholic.

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад

      We are not big fans of bitter beer (IPA) or the super cheap but anything else from a smaller brewery will happily be consumed =)

  • @gregmirr
    @gregmirr 5 лет назад +1

    You guys are awesomely talented Arabella is going to be a fine piece of true American craftsmanship . Your attention to detail will instill trust when the ocean kicks up her heels !

  • @dennyskerb4992
    @dennyskerb4992 5 лет назад +4

    I’m liking this channel, better than communist seeker.

    • @ave3499
      @ave3499 5 лет назад

      Denny Skerb , that guy bans anyone who disagrees with him. Commy

  • @glennledbetter948
    @glennledbetter948 5 лет назад +2

    Great job. I love finding a great channel that is new to me so I can binge watch all the old stuff. The problem is I get pumped to go work on my boat too.

  • @amandagardner565
    @amandagardner565 5 лет назад +8

    18:10 the oil used as cutting fluid is WAY too thick, you'd be better off with water and a bit of dishwashing liquid as a surfactant to wet and cool the blade.

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад

      We know it was too thibk, we ran out of cutting oil and it was on hand. Thick oil is better than no oil =)
      Thanks for the soap suggestion!

    • @amandagardner565
      @amandagardner565 5 лет назад

      @@AcornToArabella your welcome, the trick is to remember that the cutting fluid is a COOLANT not a lubricant.
      Industrial cutting fluids are sold in concentrate to be mixed with water (95%+ water), the 5% is surfactant (wetting agent) with some additives, mainly stabilisers to keep the fluid in suspension and preservatives to prevent mould growth in the fluid.

  • @susanhamilton1822
    @susanhamilton1822 5 лет назад

    RUclips presented me with this video today otherwise I would never have found you. I think she is going to be so beautiful that I will just have to follow along. What an undertaking! Thank you. Now I am going to do some research as to why welding bronze can be so hazardous. You learn something new every day if you are awake. lol

  • @jimwilliams4003
    @jimwilliams4003 5 лет назад

    great video and much appreciation to Lincoln for the help they are a great company

  • @lincolngrove2808
    @lincolngrove2808 5 лет назад +1

    Love your work. Your attitude to PPE, health and safety, design details, carbon footprint, respect for Victoria, team working...Ah, all of it really, is human and thoughtful and refreshing. Just as well I live 3000 miles across the Atlantic or you'd have to beat me off your property with a stick (white oak, obviously).

    • @AcornToArabella
      @AcornToArabella  5 лет назад

      haha
      Thanks! Glad you are enjoying following our crazy journey!

  • @michaelwade9348
    @michaelwade9348 5 лет назад +1

    I liked Ben's editing, especially the inserts. Lincoln Electric is a stand up company. Keep building YOUR boat the way YOU want.

  • @zetapal
    @zetapal 5 лет назад

    Wow, you just resolved so many torque angles and forces with those finely crafted bronze floor pieces ... its really beautiful ... those things are going to add so much rigidity and eliminate tons of flex and audible creaking that you would otherwise have .. it makes the project very exciting. Those improvements will make her strong and noble... a real lady in her own right. This is where you're taking advantage of the assets you have to craft a piece of engineering art. Exceptional, well done ... keep it up !

  • @robfinney9289
    @robfinney9289 5 лет назад +1

    I've noticed that Lincoln Electric, along with several other companies, are more than willing to help out youtubers with equipment "on the house". You fella's represent approximately 96,000 potential customers to them and more, as long as the subscribers continue to grow. If the companies are willing to support you with their equipment, in trade for a mention or two here and there, I say take it with a smile and a thanks.

  • @walrus2796
    @walrus2796 5 лет назад +1

    Ben is a great addition to your team, well done. There is risk in everything we do, hell taking a shower can kill you, I have watched all of your videos and not once have I thought you were acting unsafe, you have to mitigate your risk based on a huge set of things that we on the outside don’t know, so as I have observed you are being safe. Can’t wait for the next upload. God Bless!,

  • @greatafricanhornedfrog2954
    @greatafricanhornedfrog2954 5 лет назад

    Lincoln Electric really impressed me taking the initiative to help out your build, been watching this build since the start and I am FLOORED to see how the community has built up around your project. Godspeed gentlemen!

  • @GuardianCloudy
    @GuardianCloudy 4 года назад

    Those floors are bestial! Awesome fabrication, good thinking, and impressive work. Those will last forever!

  • @David-hm9ic
    @David-hm9ic 5 лет назад +1

    Kudos to Lincoln Electric for their help and products! I've been around Lincoln welding machines literally since I was born. My grandfather was a welder. This may cause me to buy another Lincoln when I was considering a lesser import to fill my desire for a MIG machine. Oh, the frames are awesome, too.

  • @Flight897
    @Flight897 5 лет назад

    Way to go Ben! Crack that wip, keep them building!

  • @captainslam
    @captainslam 5 лет назад +2

    I really appreciate the thoughtfulness you're putting into this build. I also really appreciate you taking the time to share that with us.

  • @mitchpowell608
    @mitchpowell608 5 лет назад

    You guys are over the top safe amd thoughtful..dont listen to the desk jockies.