Let me know what you think about these basses or any experience you have had with either below! - Demo: 0:00 Squier (Fingerstyle, all 100%) 0:25 Sire (Fingerstyle, all 100%) 0:48 Squier (Slap, all 100%) 1:11 Sire (Slap, all 100%) - 1:37 Squier (Tone 50%, Neck Pickup) 1:56 Sire (Tone 50%, Neck Pickup) 2:14 Squier (Tone 0%, Bridge Pickup) 2:32 Sire (Tone 0%, Bridge Pickup) - 2:51 Squier (Solo, all 100%) 3:38 Sire (Solo, all 100%) - Review: 4:34 Squier Review (and a comparison of features) 6:23 Sire Review (and a comparison of features) - Many thanks for watching!
I really like the comparison, but I´d remove the pickup guard on the Sire, as you use a bit different plucking positiones on the two and it affects the tone quite a bit. (I own 4 Sire basses...love them!)
SIRE MARCUS MILLER FOR THE WIN!!! Yo... those rolled frets on the marcus miller makes the playing super smooth.. seriously, I love holding that neck... feels like silk
Nice, although at least in latin america the V3 is comparable price wise to a squier, you'd have to put the V7 against a fender (altought it might still win).
The Sire has a clearer top-end, but it doesn’t have a full-sounding low end. It nails that funk sound just right. The Squire sounds like it would blend in better if you’re trying to have a solid, present bass that works in a mix without standing out. I imagine these differences could be minimized with a slight bass boost & treble cut in the Sire’s active mode. Overall, I’m leaning toward the Sire.
Is there much difference in the regular v7 compared to the vintage base? I have a v7 PJ bass and a sire 70s vintage base.. I know that the bridge is placed differently on the body, but is there much difference in the jazz pickups or the electronics?
@@ironandzinc I don't personally have enough experience to know for sure, but I'm guessing there's a difference in the pickups just because they're made by different brands. But I would guess that the biggest difference would come from the different pickup positions. The bridge pickup on a normal v7 is further from the bridge than on the v7 vintage giving it a warmer tone.
Nice video. I just bought a Sire Vintage J even though I have other much more expensive J basses. From the clips I have seen it has a better mid 70s J sound than my active 74 Jazz bass and that's in passive mode.It's still in the mail, can't wait.
Did you get your sire MM vintage bass yet?? How do you like it?? I have a sire MM vontage 70s jazz bass... such a joy to play. I also have a v7 PJ bass... and I want to say that it's my go to bass.. but I still think my 1980s Fender Pbass is a bit better in quality and sound.. I also have the v7 5 string swamp ash jazz bass.. which is just such a slammin bass.. I don't play it much (just for jazz/funk and jamiroquoi and steve wonder covers).. it is also very heavy.. but it is still a great 5 string bass.
@@ironandzinc I got my Sire V7 vintage 2nd gen ash/maple and it was a disappointment. Because Sire was out of stock, I bought the bass from Chuck Levin's( a dealer ). They did a setup that was so bad that it damaged the neck. Overtightening the trussrod so hard that when I tried to turn it I thought the nut was frozen. I was able to loosen it but I get it to play without buzzing only up to the 12th fret and above that all strings completely fret out even if I raise the action by quite a bit. I take a lot of solos and as it is the bass is useless to me. Also the bass sounds nowhere near as good as the videos I have seen. There might be an issue with the routing of the neck pocket, the angle doesn't seem right. The bridge saddles need to go ridiculously high to create a usable action. I tried reverse shimming, that helps, but I'm waiting for the new neck to see what that does.
I've been playing a lot of Squires and Sires lately. I bought the U5 and it smokes. Though Squires upped their game they still have QC problems.Sire beats them in this department. However they both sound great and play well. Sire QC ain't perfect either. Sires are really as good as MIM Player Serious.
Your brother is right . Sire has the best neck of any bass I've owned ..and I was skeptical and was planning on buying an American fender...I've owned American fenders and the sire is as good...squire makes budget basses ,good for the price...sire makes top notch instruments that are a great deal ..they're professional instrument...and no offense to the poster, but generally people who say rhese things can't play, or haven't played enough to know a good quality instrument. Trust me I play everyday, I rarely miss a day. I study music, and I've played most high end instruments....the sire, at the v7 vintage, is top of the line...squires are alright...until you get good enough and start to realize you need a better instrument.. the playability is insane on a sire...the rolled frers on tge generation 2 are amazing...it has a string through body as well. Anyone who says it doesn't make a difference, has never sat down with one ans played it both ways .. trust me , Im obsessed with bass lol..all my friends know how much I play. If your on the market, and can spend the money just buy one so you can play it at home, set it up how you like..mine was set up when I got it. I'm picky tho. Like I saud I've played for years , I like my shit set a certain way...but you can always send it back if you don't like it..but trust me they're as good as bassea three or four times the cost.
@@brandonmalone1893 if you are selective about a bass to play because of the setup or quality, you're boxing yourself.. Setup makes no difference to me( high,low, c/v shape whatever)..what I will pay more attention to is the SOUND of the bass and squier's got it.. it cuts through any mix.. it pales slightly behind the music man when it comes to beefy sound... well I love passive basses as a primary upright player
every sire i have played has been horrible quality i mean bottom of the barrel rough neck and frets and horrible fret bite and the active electronics never sounded good to me :/
Prefer the tone of the Sire over the Squier. If he Squier is called Vintage modified 70's then two points: why hasn't it got a Badass bridge installed (which was pretty much a standard modification those days) and why has it 60's spacing instead of 70's? I did have a Squier in the 1980's, the body wasn't exactly plywood but made a great attempt at being plywood... No Squier for me again even if they upped their game. Bought a Sire V5 recently, very nice bass and great value for money.
Just a gentle criticism playing the basses alone playing the same line gives viewers a better comparison than playing along with a soundtrack, that aside I have a vintage v7 thing is 70s pick up spacing as compared to 60s spacing and also fret board type..thanks for the review bro
What's your connection like ( Are you connecting directly to the computer or you're going through an amp) what amp and pre-amps are you using? From what I hear, I prefer the sound from the squier.. seems to have a sound that will cut through a mix over the sire.. it's got the vintage fender sound ( well it's a fender )
IMHO, Squier is far superior to Sire. In these tests that you did there is no doubt that Squier has a more enveloping sound, a lot of sustain and brightness than Sire.
No way, Squier was good until 2019 for the Classic Vibe models made in China, since they switched to Indonesia, with Cortek and Samick, the quality has gone down. The Sire are top notch for the price. Sound is subjective; build quality isn't.
It's not about sound that makes sire good...any bass can sound good with upgraded pickups... people never learn that .I've played for 32 years, and the sire v7 vintage plays as good as any American fender I've played..it's an amazing well built instrument...and it sounds good too..but I can take any junk bass that plays half as good , and put pickups in it and make it sound Good...what makes a quality instrument is the way it is built and sounds...not only that, play a sire unplugged and listen to that..they sound amazing unplugged... incredible sustain.. easiest playing bass. Squire isnt in the same league. I don't care how fat a bass sounds... doesn't mean anything if it plays like shit. I was skeptical. Until I played one. It's one thing to play in a store and another to have it at home...also sire has a string through body. Anyone that says that doesn't make a difference is full of shit. And probably hasn't played one. Or sat down and played it strung through and not...I have. .it blows squire away. It blows made in Mexico away too..I've played32 years. And the last ten or so, everyday. I study music, I practice everyday. It's what I do. And I planned on buying an American Fender. For playability. Until I played a sire. They're great basses. Not "for the money" they're just great basses..squire is a good bass for the price, and a good beginner bass..sire is a high quality instrument for a low price...worth three times what you pay. It's not a beginners bass ..that's slang for piece of shit. I guarantee the sire won't be falling apart like the squire in ten years. If you play as much as I do. Everything matters, thebone nut, the string through body the rolled fretboard. Take it from me, I play the shit out of my basses. The sire is top notch...squires are alright but not in the same league. If you think otherwise, you don't play enough to know the difference. Which is fine. Some people don't have the time. But if you play enough, you'll know the difference. The sires neck is absolutely amazing. It's not gonna bow all the time . Cause face it, if you play alot it's gonna subjectef to temperature. Over time a squire breaks down. They called beginner basses because once you start getting good enough, you realize they're not very good. They'll get by if you have nothing else. Sire is a professional bass
And I'm no sire fanboy. I love my fenders...and I was skeptical. I don't buy into the hype...I played one and was blown away. Now im taking about a V7..but I'm telling ya , ive played 32 years. I'm into jazz, metal blues, classic rock. And I can. And I'm not just saying that, I've put 10s of thousands of hours in..and I've learned a good sounding bass doesn't mean a good bass...u can change pick-ups..it's more expensive to change the neck, the nut, the bridge , the tuner's...all those things eventually wear out on squire's...the electronics ..but a good solid playing neck, is gold. .you won't find one cheaper. And you won't find it on some high end instruments. The sire is sic. Play one for yourself...not at a store. At home where you can actually set it up to how u like it. .and then tell me they suck
Your paying for a logo on the neck .I love fenders too ...but sire has the best deal ever..when people say that sounds good, but I'd have to play it ..then I know they may know what they're doing. People can't play worry about cosmetics, and more about sound same with a drummer. I see a dude walk in with a 20 piece kit , bunch of symbols and shit. They usually aren't very good. I see a dude walk in with a three piece kit im gonna sit down and listen cause he's probably real damn good. When you play alot you learn , because chances at some point you've got burned buying into hype. .but sire is legit. The real players know what's up
@@bapt_andthebasses You are 100percent correct...sire is top quality...I'm amazed. People are crazy...real players know what's up tho...it's usually the ones who can't play that say this shit lol. The same people who complain about the headstock...sire is up there with American fenders. At least the neck is..it saved me 1000$ and I have the money for an American Fender. I couldn't pass on the sire...it's that good. I play alot... everyday. And have for years. And have some good basses. The sire is my favorite. I can put good pickups in a piece of shit and make it sound good. It'll be a good sounding piece of shit sitting in the corner if it plays like shit. It's amazing to me how people get stuck on brand names. I love my fenders. But top notch quality is top notch , doesn't matter what brand
Let me know what you think about these basses or any experience you have had with either below!
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Demo:
0:00 Squier (Fingerstyle, all 100%)
0:25 Sire (Fingerstyle, all 100%)
0:48 Squier (Slap, all 100%)
1:11 Sire (Slap, all 100%)
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1:37 Squier (Tone 50%, Neck Pickup)
1:56 Sire (Tone 50%, Neck Pickup)
2:14 Squier (Tone 0%, Bridge Pickup)
2:32 Sire (Tone 0%, Bridge Pickup)
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2:51 Squier (Solo, all 100%)
3:38 Sire (Solo, all 100%)
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Review:
4:34 Squier Review (and a comparison of features)
6:23 Sire Review (and a comparison of features)
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Many thanks for watching!
I really like the comparison, but I´d remove the pickup guard on the Sire, as you use a bit different plucking positiones on the two and it affects the tone quite a bit. (I own 4 Sire basses...love them!)
I have both - the Sire is nr 1
SIRE MARCUS MILLER FOR THE WIN!!!
Yo... those rolled frets on the marcus miller makes the playing super smooth.. seriously, I love holding that neck... feels like silk
Tha ka for the video, I've actually watched this video after a year of Sire V7 ownership. I am glad I made the choice I had
Thanks for watching!
Nice, although at least in latin america the V3 is comparable price wise to a squier, you'd have to put the V7 against a fender (altought it might still win).
Sire v7 Marcus Miller Jazz Bass is my favorite.
The Sire has a clearer top-end, but it doesn’t have a full-sounding low end. It nails that funk sound just right. The Squire sounds like it would blend in better if you’re trying to have a solid, present bass that works in a mix without standing out. I imagine these differences could be minimized with a slight bass boost & treble cut in the Sire’s active mode. Overall, I’m leaning toward the Sire.
100% sire wins not even close any bass can get the highs even the cheapest of the cheap
I think I prefer the Sire, but I would probably go with the regular V7 for that more traditional tone.
Is there much difference in the regular v7 compared to the vintage base?
I have a v7 PJ bass and a sire 70s vintage base.. I know that the bridge is placed differently on the body, but is there much difference in the jazz pickups or the electronics?
@@ironandzinc I don't personally have enough experience to know for sure, but I'm guessing there's a difference in the pickups just because they're made by different brands. But I would guess that the biggest difference would come from the different pickup positions. The bridge pickup on a normal v7 is further from the bridge than on the v7 vintage giving it a warmer tone.
Sire all the way, squire dont sound bad👍🏿
Nice video. I just bought a Sire Vintage J even though I have other much more expensive J basses. From the clips I have seen it has a better mid 70s J sound than my active 74 Jazz bass and that's in passive mode.It's still in the mail, can't wait.
Did you get your sire MM vintage bass yet?? How do you like it??
I have a sire MM vontage 70s jazz bass... such a joy to play.
I also have a v7 PJ bass... and I want to say that it's my go to bass.. but I still think my 1980s Fender Pbass is a bit better in quality and sound..
I also have the v7 5 string swamp ash jazz bass.. which is just such a slammin bass.. I don't play it much (just for jazz/funk and jamiroquoi and steve wonder covers).. it is also very heavy.. but it is still a great 5 string bass.
@@ironandzinc I got my Sire V7 vintage 2nd gen ash/maple and it was a disappointment. Because Sire was out of stock, I bought the bass from Chuck Levin's( a dealer ). They did a setup that was so bad that it damaged the neck. Overtightening the trussrod so hard that when I tried to turn it I thought the nut was frozen. I was able to loosen it but I get it to play without buzzing only up to the 12th fret and above that all strings completely fret out even if I raise the action by quite a bit.
I take a lot of solos and as it is the bass is useless to me. Also the bass sounds nowhere near as good as the videos I have seen. There might be an issue with the routing of the neck pocket, the angle doesn't seem right. The bridge saddles need to go ridiculously high to create a usable action. I tried reverse shimming, that helps, but I'm waiting for the new neck to see what that does.
Sire is literally what MARCUS MILLER uses. Its clean af and works for all genres.
I like the Squier sound better!
I've been playing a lot of Squires and Sires lately. I bought the U5 and it smokes. Though Squires upped their game they still have QC problems.Sire beats them in this department. However they both sound great and play well. Sire QC ain't perfect either. Sires are really as good as MIM Player Serious.
RUclips made me believe Sire was good until I tried one in person. I’ll take the Squier.
idk man, from my brother in the guitar shop I heard something totally different
Your brother is right . Sire has the best neck of any bass I've owned ..and I was skeptical and was planning on buying an American fender...I've owned American fenders and the sire is as good...squire makes budget basses ,good for the price...sire makes top notch instruments that are a great deal ..they're professional instrument...and no offense to the poster, but generally people who say rhese things can't play, or haven't played enough to know a good quality instrument. Trust me I play everyday, I rarely miss a day. I study music, and I've played most high end instruments....the sire, at the v7 vintage, is top of the line...squires are alright...until you get good enough and start to realize you need a better instrument.. the playability is insane on a sire...the rolled frers on tge generation 2 are amazing...it has a string through body as well. Anyone who says it doesn't make a difference, has never sat down with one ans played it both ways .. trust me , Im obsessed with bass lol..all my friends know how much I play. If your on the market, and can spend the money just buy one so you can play it at home, set it up how you like..mine was set up when I got it. I'm picky tho. Like I saud I've played for years , I like my shit set a certain way...but you can always send it back if you don't like it..but trust me they're as good as bassea three or four times the cost.
@@brandonmalone1893 if you are selective about a bass to play because of the setup or quality, you're boxing yourself.. Setup makes no difference to me( high,low, c/v shape whatever)..what I will pay more attention to is the SOUND of the bass and squier's got it.. it cuts through any mix.. it pales slightly behind the music man when it comes to beefy sound... well I love passive basses as a primary upright player
You can put pickups in and change the sound...you can't change the way a neck feels. The sire has the most comfortable neck out
Squier has much punch
I don’t have a dog in this fight. They both sound good.
an amazing review! 🤝
Thank you!
Squier
every sire i have played has been horrible quality i mean bottom of the barrel rough neck and frets and horrible fret bite and the active electronics never sounded good to me :/
Prefer the tone of the Sire over the Squier. If he Squier is called Vintage modified 70's then two points: why hasn't it got a Badass bridge installed (which was pretty much a standard modification those days) and why has it 60's spacing instead of 70's? I did have a Squier in the 1980's, the body wasn't exactly plywood but made a great attempt at being plywood... No Squier for me again even if they upped their game. Bought a Sire V5 recently, very nice bass and great value for money.
Squier is much worse than Sire. Assembly, sound variability, materials.
Just a gentle criticism playing the basses alone playing the same line gives viewers a better comparison than playing along with a soundtrack, that aside I have a vintage v7 thing is 70s pick up spacing as compared to 60s spacing and also fret board type..thanks for the review bro
What's your connection like ( Are you connecting directly to the computer or you're going through an amp) what amp and pre-amps are you using? From what I hear, I prefer the sound from the squier.. seems to have a sound that will cut through a mix over the sire.. it's got the vintage fender sound ( well it's a fender )
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IMHO, Squier is far superior to Sire. In these tests that you did there is no doubt that Squier has a more enveloping sound, a lot of sustain and brightness than Sire.
No way, Squier was good until 2019 for the Classic Vibe models made in China, since they switched to Indonesia, with Cortek and Samick, the quality has gone down. The Sire are top notch for the price. Sound is subjective; build quality isn't.
It's not about sound that makes sire good...any bass can sound good with upgraded pickups... people never learn that .I've played for 32 years, and the sire v7 vintage plays as good as any American fender I've played..it's an amazing well built instrument...and it sounds good too..but I can take any junk bass that plays half as good , and put pickups in it and make it sound Good...what makes a quality instrument is the way it is built and sounds...not only that, play a sire unplugged and listen to that..they sound amazing unplugged... incredible sustain.. easiest playing bass. Squire isnt in the same league. I don't care how fat a bass sounds... doesn't mean anything if it plays like shit. I was skeptical. Until I played one. It's one thing to play in a store and another to have it at home...also sire has a string through body. Anyone that says that doesn't make a difference is full of shit. And probably hasn't played one. Or sat down and played it strung through and not...I have. .it blows squire away. It blows made in Mexico away too..I've played32 years. And the last ten or so, everyday. I study music, I practice everyday. It's what I do. And I planned on buying an American Fender. For playability. Until I played a sire. They're great basses. Not "for the money" they're just great basses..squire is a good bass for the price, and a good beginner bass..sire is a high quality instrument for a low price...worth three times what you pay. It's not a beginners bass ..that's slang for piece of shit. I guarantee the sire won't be falling apart like the squire in ten years. If you play as much as I do. Everything matters, thebone nut, the string through body the rolled fretboard. Take it from me, I play the shit out of my basses. The sire is top notch...squires are alright but not in the same league. If you think otherwise, you don't play enough to know the difference. Which is fine. Some people don't have the time. But if you play enough, you'll know the difference. The sires neck is absolutely amazing. It's not gonna bow all the time . Cause face it, if you play alot it's gonna subjectef to temperature. Over time a squire breaks down. They called beginner basses because once you start getting good enough, you realize they're not very good. They'll get by if you have nothing else. Sire is a professional bass
And I'm no sire fanboy. I love my fenders...and I was skeptical. I don't buy into the hype...I played one and was blown away. Now im taking about a V7..but I'm telling ya , ive played 32 years. I'm into jazz, metal blues, classic rock. And I can. And I'm not just saying that, I've put 10s of thousands of hours in..and I've learned a good sounding bass doesn't mean a good bass...u can change pick-ups..it's more expensive to change the neck, the nut, the bridge , the tuner's...all those things eventually wear out on squire's...the electronics ..but a good solid playing neck, is gold. .you won't find one cheaper. And you won't find it on some high end instruments. The sire is sic. Play one for yourself...not at a store. At home where you can actually set it up to how u like it. .and then tell me they suck
Your paying for a logo on the neck .I love fenders too ...but sire has the best deal ever..when people say that sounds good, but I'd have to play it ..then I know they may know what they're doing. People can't play worry about cosmetics, and more about sound same with a drummer. I see a dude walk in with a 20 piece kit , bunch of symbols and shit. They usually aren't very good. I see a dude walk in with a three piece kit im gonna sit down and listen cause he's probably real damn good. When you play alot you learn , because chances at some point you've got burned buying into hype. .but sire is legit. The real players know what's up
@@bapt_andthebasses You are 100percent correct...sire is top quality...I'm amazed. People are crazy...real players know what's up tho...it's usually the ones who can't play that say this shit lol. The same people who complain about the headstock...sire is up there with American fenders. At least the neck is..it saved me 1000$ and I have the money for an American Fender. I couldn't pass on the sire...it's that good. I play alot... everyday. And have for years. And have some good basses. The sire is my favorite. I can put good pickups in a piece of shit and make it sound good. It'll be a good sounding piece of shit sitting in the corner if it plays like shit. It's amazing to me how people get stuck on brand names. I love my fenders. But top notch quality is top notch , doesn't matter what brand
Squire kills the Sire
Nah
This squier isn't classic vibe 70' jazz bass