Let's address some of the comments: 1. "Ohio doesn't spend money on advertising so its a bad example" - actually Ohio spent between $6 - $8million on advertising. Newsflash: states spend money on tourism. Its a thing. 2. "you should have used a product not a city" - I used Enterprise car hire and Rennaisane Hotel - those are products and yes, they advertise. 3. "Museums don't advertise" - firstly they do, but not only were there no ads for that actual museum there were no ads for ANYTHING in Toldeo or Ohio. The way the advertising algorism works is that even if you don't have a direct "hit" ie that particular museum didn't advertise, they would look at orbital topics. In other words: "you are not based in that city, so you must be thinking of going there so here are ads for restaurants in that city, car hire, coupons for attractions, ride share, other attractions, festivals etc. " Then "oh you didn't engage with those ads, how about other places in Ohion to visit instead of Toledo? here are some ads for other cities" There were ZERO ads for ANYTHING in Ohio. 4. "It looks for keywords not the whole conversation" - for that to happen it would be constantly transcribing everything it hears from the moment it is switched on until the moment you switch it off. That is an insane amount of processing and would drain your battery so fast and not to mention how much RAM it would use constantly making your phone crawl to a halt. Try it - open the voice recording app when you wake up and hit the record button. How long does your phone last? Now you will say "oh but they don't need an app so it wouldn't be like a voice recording app" - the process is the same without the interface. It needs to activate the mic, get the audio, save it, and transcribe it looking for the list of keywords it downloaded. Then delete the audio and the transcription all while making sure your phone doesn't notice. Oh and it would need to do it constantly, on every single device around the entire world. Their system would need to ingest that all of would need to happen so that it could target you with your toothpaste ad. OR it get the same info with virtually no effort. Let's not forget that your phone is already sending so much data about you such as your location so that plus your online activity (and offline activity) is soooooo much data that they don't need to go through all this trouble. And think about it, if that was possible, then what's stopping them from reading your messages, recording your phone calls, watching your password being entered etc.? I mean you could be sending a text message to a friend asking about the new Gym they joined - so will you now get ads for that gym? I doubt it. What people are forgetting is that Apple and Google are global companies and each country has their own privacy laws and regulatory body that needs to ensure that their laws are met. How likely is it, that every country has allowed Apple and Google to bypass their laws? Why haven't we seen a disgruntled employee who got fired from one of these companies come forward with proof of a project they were working on that exposes these big tech companies for constantly recording? (I am not talking about Snowden and the government - that is a different story. I am talking about does a phone listen to serve you ads.) As I said, it doesn't matter how much proof there is, it doesn't matter how science and logic come into play, much like the flat earth people are convinced they are right, there will always be people who are going to ignore things like facts and continue to tell stories of how one they were just thinking about getting new soap and they got an ad. And that is fine. Conspiracy theories live on forever. "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." - John F Kennedy
The smartphone recorded what you said about testing it just before you reseted it, it put that info somewhere in the hard drive and voilà ! Simple explanation, see :)
You are saying that voics collection is not practical, because it uses allot of resorces. I think this is wrong. It can be done localy and it is. Voice to text works on every phone. No need sending or recording. Possible test for this is to watch processing speed of cpu & gpu when you are talking and compare it to when there is no sounds around phone.
My boyfriend and I were sitting in the living room talking about something and I was scrolling through Amazon and it popped up and I said let's try something. We started talking about stuff squirrels how much we would like to have a stuffed squirrel. I do have an Amazon device in my living room. After about 30 minutes of talking about a stuffed squirrel and scrolling through random Amazon pages a stuffed squirrel popped up. And now I'm being offered them all over the place. I don't think that was the phone I think that's because I have an Amazon device that's always listening.
One thing I can guarantee is happening is when I'm shopping on google or Amazon after about 30 minutes my wife will say something like "are you shopping for (whatever) because i'm getting ads on Facebook for it". I myself do have a Facebook account but it's been deactivated for months now.
Thank you for this video. Your phone might not be technically listening to your conversation but it can gather enough information to make it appear that way. And as we know with this generation, perception defines reality. I teach a two class. On the first day, I give out a homework assignment. I tell the students to go home and have phone conversation. Not through any app but just a regular "voice" call. I ask them to talk about something they've never talked about before, like "feral baby ducks". More often then not, the next day, they've gotten ads with the subject they talked about in their phone call.
I live in NZ. I have a kickazz setup at home, but made a conscious lifestyle choice not to have a smartphone. About 5 years ago I had to replace my dumb prepay phone and it was less expensive to replace it with a really cheap smartphone. Its still prepay and I had never gone online with it. One day I went shopping for a vape and visited 3 shops. As soon as I got home and went on YT (got an adblocker) I was getting vaping video recommendations. I asume It's from the phones location tracking, so there is that....
You're recording this video while the phones are on your desk. They know it. They know you want to trick them. They know everything. They're smart phones. They won't fall in the trap.
@@LironSegev Technically, you(r voice) and others like Linus could be on a blacklist, so that your voice is not converted to text! Yes, that sounds very far fetched. But such things do happen.
So i talked about burying my stepson as he had just passed away, to my partner, while NOT having looked online as it just happened and WHAM I get ads for funerals and coffins, thanks Roku box.
Firstly sorry for your loss. I assume someone if you family looked up something about funerals. As I explained you don't have to be the one doing the searches
Liron, I suspect it would take many days for the A.I. in the phones to actually start showing ads related to one’s speech. I don’t think it’s the Reticular thing. But I agree with the data brokers, et. al., being a BIG problem.
Great video. But there is one point on which you are/can be mistaken. Android, Apple, and Facebook apps could process your audio/voice/conversations on your own phone and then only send the few keywords as text to their servers. Now, instead of sending terabytes of info over the internet, they could send just a few bytes. I am not claiming they do this or not, but this is how they would likely do it if they are indeed using your conversations to serve ads.
Never had the issue but I know one person who does & don’t want to hear the tech truth so I leave her be. I turn off all these features on all tech so I know my ads are directly related to something I click on. I see the same ads over and over again. Every so often Facebook throws a new ad in to see if I’ll bite but it’s always related to the same ads I’ve interacted with in the past.
That is true. Phones not only hear your voice for ads. But I been experiencing things where I don't even mention a word nor search for anything. They also read your thoughts. That may be for the illiterate or mute people though. Idk
Not quite "they're listening' but I remember reading a story about supermarket vouchers as they monitored what consumers bought. A guy got upset as it sent his family loads of baby related coupons and his wife wasn't pregnant. Turned out his daughter was and the 'algorithm' had detected increase in vitamins and foods that someone who is pregnant would purchase... so the store knew before he did.
My phone can listen all it wants and I don't mind but then again I only have a landline wall mounted phone/digital answering system. Probably will never have a mobile phone.
Facebook knows everything about you even if you've never had an account or if you've never visited their website or have never bought any of their merchandise.
i always can tell when "they're" listening. i control all device's mic's etc. a couple of days ago, discovered and turned on an old forgotten tablet I found in the drawer. Noticed the next day that youtube was directing videos from conversations i was having in my home........then I remembered the tablet. found the leak, shut it off. they can still monitor my phone calls (and texts)....not much i know to do about that. Microphone has to be on to operate a phone call successfully
They don't need to send the whole audio file back to Google or Apple, they just need to transcribe it and pick out any keywords and all this is done on your phone. Then send these few short bits of texts which is only 100 bytes or so. Edge computing!
Let's say that was true. Which keyword does it look for? It has to get a master list right? And to do that it would have to transcribe everything that it hears. So you are saying everyt single phone around the world is doing that constantly and uploading that to some system that would have to ingest it just so it could send you an ad vs just watch your cookies. And since this has been going on since the Facebook launched to the public back in 2006, you are saying that back then they had this kind of tech. That isn't plausible.
Well thats up to their algorithm. They can update based on their knowledge of you, an listen for certain key words. We know they already listen to ok google or hey Siri without needing internet interaction. We know they can continuously listen and transcribe in the translate app.. they might start transcribing triggered by some key words. Like I said, edge computing, updating and adjusting their algorithm. It's gonna get worse with AI...
It IS refreshing for someone to poo-poo the paranoia many of us feel, so I appreciate a bit of reality, or a "best guess" by someone with some expertise. You're probably right that Apple for example doesn't actually turn back on one's microphone when it's turned off, but I must admit I went "Well they're not going to make it obvious, are they?" If they cannot be caught, I don't see why they would not, given this huge fine they've received. Very interesting experiment. I appreciated your videos.
I never did believe it was and still don't, like you mentioned we would see an uptick in data usage and a battery drain that would be out of this world. But the thing I suspect that at least 95 plus percent of the 'average' users don't know how to check that.
Liron, this is not really about ads. I have had a face to face conversation about a T.V. series with someone downstairs at my job, and as soon as i got upstairs and open up my phone there it is on RUclips, Twilight Zone, the show i was talking to someone about minutes ago.
This is literally about ads. What you are talking about isn't what was tested. It's like testing a car's performance and you are saying it's not about that but how much tires cost. That may be valid but not this test
I get ads about what i talk about but I worked out by a process of elimination that is was not my phone, it was my Roku box!! mention anything while watching tv and a few hours later WHAM! youtube videos about the subject and facebook ads. So it seems my phones are not the culprit but the mic in my Roku handset.
Your phone has a feature where the cellular company can turn it on remotely, even if it isn't plugged into power. Which means even when it is off, it is still on. Most phones even have a feature where you can turn them on and off on a schedule.
They other day I was talking about how my phone listens to me and then this post came up and that proves my phone was listening to me even though this post shows it is more likely that it was recommended because i subscribe to this channel, but it is more exciting to think my phone might be listening to me, so that must be true. And then, the 5G connection killed my cat with COVID. It is far easier to get the kids to come in off the playground for story time than maths, especially if the stories are scarey and made up. Narrative trumps data in most cases. If people watched, and listened, carefully, they would learn what is actually driving their cosumption, and how to avoid it, so thanks.
This was a well thought out experiment of a fair level of complexity and it is clear to me that technologically, we are still at a level where the overall data from listening to every word would be overwhelming. But if quantum computing ever becomes real and widespread, all bets are off.
It’s been reported that Apple currently accepted a $95million lawsuit settlement without admitting wrongdoing for siri listening to conversations without a ’hey siri’ being spoken.
Am I the only one whose head is spinning from him scrolling? I can't watch a lot of video. I think this got worse when I got old. Why do I get bombarded with ads for old geezers?
@@LironSegev I'm not complaining. I was just wondering who else is affected. Christ everybody is so touchy these days. Sheesh! Can't say anything I guess. I'll unsubscribe and go away.
@Serai3 What I meant was Phones with numb pads were the greatest invention then the expectations among people grew and thats where the tech firms saw the potential to use that apportunity towards their own betterment.
On device voice recognition. Speech to text done on device. This does not equal petabytes. It equals kilobytes. You won’t notice that on your data usage.
People believe what they want to believe. You have shown clearly how this happens. They should listen to what you have said. Intelligence agencies do monitor sms's for patterns that may impact state security. To constantly monitor your conversation, it would cost way too much and take too many resources. Not many people are not that important, and there are better easier ways to find customers to buy stuff.
i think you didnt pick a place that anyone has as a vacation destination and the ads for that might be extremely limited? what if you said bahamas or disneyland
Trigger words for assistant is not the same as listening to everything you are saying. It doesn't even listen for the word but a sound pattern and only then does it listen to an instruction. Google it.
Kind of pointless test as the hotel or attractions in Toledo need to be advertising on these platforms for an ad to be shown. The algorithms are smart enough not to show irrelevant ads in Toledo such as a dog grooming or bakery. Did you verify the hotel or 3 attractions you mention are even advertising on any of the platforms
yes they do advertise. I agree, it wouldn't show dog grooming, but it would show orbital services such as restaurants. It would also show competing services or products such other hotel names and other car hire companies. Then it would go broader with other items in Ohion and not in Toledo
You are saying that voics collection is not practical, because it uses allot of resorces. I think this is wrong. It can be done localy and it is. Voice to text works on every phone. No need sending or recording. Possible test for this is to watch processing speed of cpu & gpu when you are talking and compare it to when there is no sounds around phone.
The first thing you will notice is that you can get more than a week out of each battery charge. I too switched to a flip phone when my previous 7yrs old smartphone fell off my porch and shattered. Even when that smartphone was brand new it could only do 4 days between charges.
The best prove that phones are always talking to someone, like google maps, man had alot of phones in a cart he pulled around a nontraffic road, and soon ,google was showing alot of traffic there, tho it was no cars!
Yes but that is very different. That is the phone sending the phone's location information. We are talking about the phone listening to your conversation.
That’s what AI does - sift through tons of data to home in on “instructed” interest. For example if Jigsaw has designated you as a demagogue democrat, it won’t bother trying to influence you. But if you are designated as undecided it will try to influence you.
Absolutely as I said. They don't need to listen to your voice when they already has enough data to make accurate recommendations. Not sure why people aren't getting it
Hi Liron, Thanks for the video. I agree with you. I don't think Android or Apple devices "listen." There are other, easier ways for companies to get your data. Take care,
@@LironSegev Yes I saw, it's controversial. I mean you say a key word "siri" and your phone starts listening most of the time without your knowledge. So my opinion is that your phone is always on the watch and just a word might trigger whatever depending on what you have installed and gave permissions.
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no need to shout - You may be running an older version of Android so in your setting, find the Google account. If you can't find it, then Google how to find it on your particular phone.
If you reset your phone you will lose all your files in your photos etc. You're not telling people to save certain things. I can't imagine the people that have done this and lost so much
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Let's address some of the comments:
1. "Ohio doesn't spend money on advertising so its a bad example" - actually Ohio spent between $6 - $8million on advertising. Newsflash: states spend money on tourism. Its a thing.
2. "you should have used a product not a city" - I used Enterprise car hire and Rennaisane Hotel - those are products and yes, they advertise.
3. "Museums don't advertise" - firstly they do, but not only were there no ads for that actual museum there were no ads for ANYTHING in Toldeo or Ohio.
The way the advertising algorism works is that even if you don't have a direct "hit" ie that particular museum didn't advertise, they would look at orbital topics.
In other words: "you are not based in that city, so you must be thinking of going there so here are ads for restaurants in that city, car hire, coupons for attractions, ride share, other attractions, festivals etc. "
Then "oh you didn't engage with those ads, how about other places in Ohion to visit instead of Toledo? here are some ads for other cities"
There were ZERO ads for ANYTHING in Ohio.
4. "It looks for keywords not the whole conversation" - for that to happen it would be constantly transcribing everything it hears from the moment it is switched on until the moment you switch it off. That is an insane amount of processing and would drain your battery so fast and not to mention how much RAM it would use constantly making your phone crawl to a halt.
Try it - open the voice recording app when you wake up and hit the record button. How long does your phone last?
Now you will say "oh but they don't need an app so it wouldn't be like a voice recording app" - the process is the same without the interface.
It needs to activate the mic, get the audio, save it, and transcribe it looking for the list of keywords it downloaded. Then delete the audio and the transcription all while making sure your phone doesn't notice.
Oh and it would need to do it constantly, on every single device around the entire world.
Their system would need to ingest that all of would need to happen so that it could target you with your toothpaste ad.
OR
it get the same info with virtually no effort.
Let's not forget that your phone is already sending so much data about you such as your location so that plus your online activity (and offline activity) is soooooo much data that they don't need to go through all this trouble.
And think about it, if that was possible, then what's stopping them from reading your messages, recording your phone calls, watching your password being entered etc.?
I mean you could be sending a text message to a friend asking about the new Gym they joined - so will you now get ads for that gym?
I doubt it.
What people are forgetting is that Apple and Google are global companies and each country has their own privacy laws and regulatory body that needs to ensure that their laws are met.
How likely is it, that every country has allowed Apple and Google to bypass their laws?
Why haven't we seen a disgruntled employee who got fired from one of these companies come forward with proof of a project they were working on that exposes these big tech companies for constantly recording? (I am not talking about Snowden and the government - that is a different story. I am talking about does a phone listen to serve you ads.)
As I said, it doesn't matter how much proof there is, it doesn't matter how science and logic come into play, much like the flat earth people are convinced they are right, there will always be people who are going to ignore things like facts and continue to tell stories of how one they were just thinking about getting new soap and they got an ad.
And that is fine. Conspiracy theories live on forever.
"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." - John F Kennedy
The smartphone recorded what you said about testing it just before you reseted it, it put that info somewhere in the hard drive and voilà ! Simple explanation, see :)
@En_theo 🤦 it also knew I thought about catching it so it communicated with the FBI and warned them. Spot on.
@@LironSegev
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People have almost no idea what they blindly agreed to when they decided to get a smartphone.
correction: people have no idea what terms and conditions they accept as no one reads them
@@LironSegev I stand corrected.
😂 your point was spot on
You are saying that voics collection is not practical, because it uses allot of resorces.
I think this is wrong. It can be done localy and it is.
Voice to text works on every phone. No need sending or recording.
Possible test for this is to watch processing speed of cpu & gpu when you are talking and compare it to when there is no sounds around phone.
The other year I mentioned that I fancied getting myself a paddleboard,next thing,Facebook turned into a paddleboard advertising app
My boyfriend and I were sitting in the living room talking about something and I was scrolling through Amazon and it popped up and I said let's try something. We started talking about stuff squirrels how much we would like to have a stuffed squirrel. I do have an Amazon device in my living room. After about 30 minutes of talking about a stuffed squirrel and scrolling through random Amazon pages a stuffed squirrel popped up. And now I'm being offered them all over the place. I don't think that was the phone I think that's because I have an Amazon device that's always listening.
But Liron, The phones were listening when you planned the video and acted accordingly lolll. Happy New Year Liron!
Little things like facts and logic tend to get in the way of a good conspiracy 😂
Happy 2025!
Yup the phone is always listening 🎶
I am very grateful for the work you do!!
Thank you so much and for hanging out here 😊
@@LironSegev I so appreciate your work dear!!! Thank you for all your care and attention I'm very grateful to you!!!
Yes , yes ,yes, They set up these phones to always listen.
One thing I can guarantee is happening is when I'm shopping on google or Amazon after about 30 minutes my wife will say something like "are you shopping for (whatever) because i'm getting ads on Facebook for it". I myself do have a Facebook account but it's been deactivated for months now.
Thank you for this video. Your phone might not be technically listening to your conversation but it can gather enough information to make it appear that way. And as we know with this generation, perception defines reality. I teach a two class. On the first day, I give out a homework assignment. I tell the students to go home and have phone conversation. Not through any app but just a regular "voice" call. I ask them to talk about something they've never talked about before, like "feral baby ducks". More often then not, the next day, they've gotten ads with the subject they talked about in their phone call.
My wife asked me why I was speaking softly in the house….
I said I was afraid CIA was listening.
She laughed. I laughed. Siri laughed.
🤣🤣🤣
@@Coaxalis 😅😅😅
Yes it does
seriously curious: did you actually watch the video?
@@jvnonu54njl yeah TikTok attention spam 🤪 this channel isn't for you
lol. How can a 25 minute video be 'too long' ? Do you really have the mind of a goldfish? I bet you couldn't even finish reading the comment...
I live in NZ. I have a kickazz setup at home, but made a conscious lifestyle choice not to have a smartphone. About 5 years ago I had to replace my dumb prepay phone and it was less expensive to replace it with a really cheap smartphone. Its still prepay and I had never gone online with it. One day I went shopping for a vape and visited 3 shops. As soon as I got home and went on YT (got an adblocker) I was getting vaping video recommendations. I asume It's from the phones location tracking, so there is that....
You're recording this video while the phones are on your desk.
They know it.
They know you want to trick them.
They know everything.
They're smart phones.
They won't fall in the trap.
They don't fall a trap that doesn't exist 😂
I just wanted to be a bit dramatic 😂
@@LironSegev Technically, you(r voice) and others like Linus could be on a blacklist, so that your voice is not converted to text! Yes, that sounds very far fetched. But such things do happen.
I wanted to say the same thing. Or maybe this city is not popular also. There's no paid push ads.
@@Loulou-1719 see pinned comment
I tried this and got all kinds of ads about torpedoes 😂😂😂
So i talked about burying my stepson as he had just passed away, to my partner, while NOT having looked online as it just happened and WHAM I get ads for funerals and coffins, thanks Roku box.
Firstly sorry for your loss.
I assume someone if you family looked up something about funerals. As I explained you don't have to be the one doing the searches
Liron, I suspect it would take many days for the A.I. in the phones to actually start showing ads related to one’s speech. I don’t think it’s the Reticular thing. But I agree with the data brokers, et. al., being a BIG problem.
It's been over 3 weeks since I recorded it and still nothing.
@ Just last night the Google app did something similar. Not sure how.
Great video. But there is one point on which you are/can be mistaken. Android, Apple, and Facebook apps could process your audio/voice/conversations on your own phone and then only send the few keywords as text to their servers. Now, instead of sending terabytes of info over the internet, they could send just a few bytes. I am not claiming they do this or not, but this is how they would likely do it if they are indeed using your conversations to serve ads.
It’s very interesting how he says “Ohio”. It sounds more like “ahia “. lol. South African accents are very interesting
Thank you so much for your videos and your insight
Thanks for watching!
I’ve found it has to do with clicking or searching. 🙀
For me i just think about something.......since 2005 ive been getting ads about stuff im thinking about......i think wifi reads your brain too
Never had the issue but I know one person who does & don’t want to hear the tech truth so I leave her be. I turn off all these features on all tech so I know my ads are directly related to something I click on. I see the same ads over and over again. Every so often Facebook throws a new ad in to see if I’ll bite but it’s always related to the same ads I’ve interacted with in the past.
Wow 16:57 is mindblowing - really did not know it was that detailed. This is one of the best Tch videos I have seen in years. Thanks Liron.
Appreciate you 🔥
That is true. Phones not only hear your voice for ads. But I been experiencing things where I don't even mention a word nor search for anything. They also read your thoughts.
That may be for the illiterate or mute people though. Idk
Liron, I genuinely enjoy your content.
I appreciate you being here 🔥
Not quite "they're listening' but I remember reading a story about supermarket vouchers as they monitored what consumers bought. A guy got upset as it sent his family loads of baby related coupons and his wife wasn't pregnant. Turned out his daughter was and the 'algorithm' had detected increase in vitamins and foods that someone who is pregnant would purchase... so the store knew before he did.
I remember this - it was because they had a store loyalty card so they send them coupons for baby related items
My phone can listen all it wants and I don't mind but then again I only have a landline wall mounted phone/digital answering system. Probably will never have a mobile phone.
I always have a conversation with my phone in fact I'm having a conversation with my phone right now😂
I almost never save 🍪🍪🍪🍪 nowadays. I don't care if my phone is listened to...I have other things to be paranoid about...😅
That's the most ads I've seen in years.
Be Brave.
Very rational, objective & nuanced video!!
Great and unbiased information and in proper English too! Appreciate your continued useful subjects.
I called my pup ‘wee baby cakes’ one day while playing with her… started getting ads on Facebook for baby birthday cake suppliers…
Thank you!
You're welcome!
I was with friends intentionally talking to own phones. We immediately had ads for what we discussed.
Maybe your phones are 'protecting' you from Toledo 😗 Excellent video, Liron - you're always on the beam!
😂 probably
Facebook knows everything about you even if you've never had an account or if you've never visited their website or have never bought any of their merchandise.
True story
i always can tell when "they're" listening. i control all device's mic's etc. a couple of days ago, discovered and turned on an old forgotten tablet I found in the drawer. Noticed the next day that youtube was directing videos from conversations i was having in my home........then I remembered the tablet. found the leak, shut it off. they can still monitor my phone calls (and texts)....not much i know to do about that. Microphone has to be on to operate a phone call successfully
Awesome information . . . Thanks!
Appreciate you being here 🔥
Yes, my phone does but it's a secret! 🤐
Thanks for giving them an idea for a future down load. Love you guy Happy New Year.
Thank you for such wonderful and useful content
Thank YOU for being here
They don't need to send the whole audio file back to Google or Apple, they just need to transcribe it and pick out any keywords and all this is done on your phone. Then send these few short bits of texts which is only 100 bytes or so. Edge computing!
Let's say that was true. Which keyword does it look for? It has to get a master list right? And to do that it would have to transcribe everything that it hears.
So you are saying everyt single phone around the world is doing that constantly and uploading that to some system that would have to ingest it just so it could send you an ad vs just watch your cookies. And since this has been going on since the Facebook launched to the public back in 2006, you are saying that back then they had this kind of tech. That isn't plausible.
Well thats up to their algorithm. They can update based on their knowledge of you, an listen for certain key words. We know they already listen to ok google or hey Siri without needing internet interaction. We know they can continuously listen and transcribe in the translate app.. they might start transcribing triggered by some key words. Like I said, edge computing, updating and adjusting their algorithm. It's gonna get worse with AI...
Amazing video like always thanks for the information keep it up.💪
I suspect it's also sometimes down to the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon
This is odd, my phone is lying close to my monitor while watching your video and now I've ads for travel and tourism in Ohio? Lol
I was 100% waiting on a comment like this.
Took longer than I thought tbh.
The internet never disappoints 😂
@@LironSegev I couldn't resist... and I'm a huge conspiracy theorist. Lol
@OrionLaerithryn 😂
This is also dependent upon the companies offering services in that city actually advertising on that platform.
I ask you about this things almost (if not more than) a year ago. This is an old issues. It's already everybody's secrets by now.
Educational
It IS refreshing for someone to poo-poo the paranoia many of us feel, so I appreciate a bit of reality, or a "best guess" by someone with some expertise. You're probably right that Apple for example doesn't actually turn back on one's microphone when it's turned off, but I must admit I went "Well they're not going to make it obvious, are they?" If they cannot be caught, I don't see why they would not, given this huge fine they've received. Very interesting experiment. I appreciated your videos.
For some strange reason my ads are targeted towards man that are 60+ which I am not.
I never did believe it was and still don't, like you mentioned we would see an uptick in data usage and a battery drain that would be out of this world. But the thing I suspect that at least 95 plus percent of the 'average' users don't know how to check that.
Slap on the wrist for Apple, not enough of a fine as other companies do the same
But think of that whopping $20 each person will get 😂
@@LironSegev wow
Yes.
Liron, this is not really about ads. I have had a face to face conversation about a T.V. series with someone downstairs at my job, and as soon as i got upstairs and open up my phone there it is on RUclips, Twilight Zone, the show i was talking to someone about minutes ago.
This is literally about ads. What you are talking about isn't what was tested. It's like testing a car's performance and you are saying it's not about that but how much tires cost. That may be valid but not this test
Yes it knows what I’m sayin and then posts the same commercial or topic
I get ads about what i talk about but I worked out by a process of elimination that is was not my phone, it was my Roku box!! mention anything while watching tv and a few hours later WHAM! youtube videos about the subject and facebook ads. So it seems my phones are not the culprit but the mic in my Roku handset.
I believe they all do, they just haven't been caught yet
i was talking about something completely random that I never talk about, 15 minutes later ADs for that on Facebook, android
Your phone has a feature where the cellular company can turn it on remotely, even if it isn't plugged into power. Which means even when it is off, it is still on. Most phones even have a feature where you can turn them on and off on a schedule.
Doesn't your phone have to be infected with malware like Pegasus for this to happen?
They other day I was talking about how my phone listens to me and then this post came up and that proves my phone was listening to me even though this post shows it is more likely that it was recommended because i subscribe to this channel, but it is more exciting to think my phone might be listening to me, so that must be true. And then, the 5G connection killed my cat with COVID.
It is far easier to get the kids to come in off the playground for story time than maths, especially if the stories are scarey and made up. Narrative trumps data in most cases.
If people watched, and listened, carefully, they would learn what is actually driving their cosumption, and how to avoid it, so thanks.
Don't you hate it when things like logic and facts spoil a good conspiracy? 🤣
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Thank you, Liron, for another informative vid. I also use Tom's, it's a great source.
Appreciate you 🔥
This was a well thought out experiment of a fair level of complexity and it is clear to me that technologically, we are still at a level where the overall data from listening to every word would be overwhelming. But if quantum computing ever becomes real and widespread, all bets are off.
True story
It’s been reported that Apple currently accepted a $95million lawsuit settlement without admitting wrongdoing for siri listening to conversations without a ’hey siri’ being spoken.
I addressed that.
Am I the only one whose head is spinning from him scrolling? I can't watch a lot of video. I think this got worse when I got old.
Why do I get bombarded with ads for old geezers?
No other way to show you. If I just had a screenshot, then the comments would have been how it's fake 😂
Can't please everyone I guess.
@@LironSegev I'm not complaining. I was just wondering who else is affected. Christ everybody is so touchy these days. Sheesh! Can't say anything I guess. I'll unsubscribe and go away.
I tried this once... kept mentioning a hobby or pastime Ive never searched for and never had anything to do with. Didnt see anything about it
Perhapse because you mentioned that you were experimenting to check if they were listening. Could be a specific check that the phones do
Technology is great, but companies have started to misuse it.
"Started"?
@Serai3 What I meant was Phones with numb pads were the greatest invention then the expectations among people grew and thats where the tech firms saw the potential to use that apportunity towards their own betterment.
hi can you do this with windows, Linux and apple computers please?
I have seen the same experiments with the Chromebook and it does appear that the Chromebook is listening to you.
11:37 text is much smaller than audio
An interesting read Edward Snowden Permanent Record
On device voice recognition. Speech to text done on device. This does not equal petabytes. It equals kilobytes. You won’t notice that on your data usage.
See pinned comment
Well..perhaps it is trigger by specific set of words that would set up a alarm for them to want to proceed 😅😅😅
Well yes
95 million of which zero goes to the people affected,including me
thats not true - you can add your name to the claim
@@LironSegev People don't understand how class action works.
9:41 at this point of the video, i am convinced that they listened to the surrounding language, which they wouldn’t provide results for this test…
People believe what they want to believe. You have shown clearly how this happens. They should listen to what you have said.
Intelligence agencies do monitor sms's for patterns that may impact state security.
To constantly monitor your conversation, it would cost way too much and take too many resources. Not many people are not that important, and there are better easier ways to find customers to buy stuff.
@@shaunshelly3314 yeah. Apparently facts are irrelevant 😂
i think you didnt pick a place that anyone has as a vacation destination and the ads for that might be extremely limited? what if you said bahamas or disneyland
Nah. See pinned comment
I can't believe this is still debated. If it's not consistently listening to you, how does it know when you ask it to search for anything?
Trigger words for assistant is not the same as listening to everything you are saying. It doesn't even listen for the word but a sound pattern and only then does it listen to an instruction. Google it.
Kind of pointless test as the hotel or attractions in Toledo need to be advertising on these platforms for an ad to be shown.
The algorithms are smart enough not to show irrelevant ads in Toledo such as a dog grooming or bakery.
Did you verify the hotel or 3 attractions you mention are even advertising on any of the platforms
yes they do advertise.
I agree, it wouldn't show dog grooming, but it would show orbital services such as restaurants. It would also show competing services or products such other hotel names and other car hire companies.
Then it would go broader with other items in Ohion and not in Toledo
I understand the payout is around a measly $20/phone.
Yeah, the local news said $25 per phone yesterday. It should be a lot more imo.
what if the OS has an app that locally intelligently filters your conversations before sending very little data to the same effect?
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Yes Yes Yes
Did you sign into Google on the phones
You are saying that voics collection is not practical, because it uses allot of resorces.
I think this is wrong. It can be done localy and it is.
Voice to text works on every phone. No need sending or recording.
Possible test for this is to watch processing speed of cpu & gpu when you are talking and compare it to when there is no sounds around phone.
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I'm back to a FLIPPER PHONE 😛👍🏻
The first thing you will notice is that you can get more than a week out of each battery charge. I too switched to a flip phone when my previous 7yrs old smartphone fell off my porch and shattered. Even when that smartphone was brand new it could only do 4 days between charges.
The best prove that phones are always talking to someone, like google maps, man had alot of phones in a cart he pulled around a nontraffic road, and soon ,google was showing alot of traffic there, tho it was no cars!
Yes but that is very different. That is the phone sending the phone's location information. We are talking about the phone listening to your conversation.
i think my pc is listening!!! when say something in englisch i get red stripes onder the words what can i do about it?
That’s what AI does - sift through tons of data to home in on “instructed” interest.
For example if Jigsaw has designated you as a demagogue democrat, it won’t bother trying to influence you. But if you are designated as undecided it will try to influence you.
Absolutely as I said. They don't need to listen to your voice when they already has enough data to make accurate recommendations. Not sure why people aren't getting it
Hi Liron, Thanks for the video.
I agree with you. I don't think Android or Apple devices "listen." There are other, easier ways for companies to get your data.
Take care,
100%
Apple just got sued for Siri eavesdropping and they agreed to pay $95m, so yes they listen and your watch does the same.
Did you watch the bit where I discussed that? 🤔 Probably not based on the comment
@@LironSegev Yes I saw, it's controversial. I mean you say a key word "siri" and your phone starts listening most of the time without your knowledge. So my opinion is that your phone is always on the watch and just a word might trigger whatever depending on what you have installed and gave permissions.
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My next vacation will be to Toledo, Ohio
hope you get ads for it 🤪
Wonder if subject matter make a difference? Like food?
MY ANDROID GALAXY DOESNT HAVE THE LABELS YOU MENTION...THEYRE DIFFERENT AND I COULDNT FIND WHAT YOU WERE CALLING OUT.
no need to shout - You may be running an older version of Android so in your setting, find the Google account. If you can't find it, then Google how to find it on your particular phone.
If you reset your phone you will lose all your files in your photos etc. You're not telling people to save certain things. I can't imagine the people that have done this and lost so much
Eh...where did I say reset your phone? Please provide a time stamp
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Everything listening..
LOL!!! People are brainwashed.
Good video. Thanks.
This evening I was looking at TV-program and my android next to me. Program was in Russian and then a lot of ads with Russian text came up😉
Is it a smart TV? Are you logged in with your google account? Was it live tv or an app like Netflix?