Julius Evola Against the Modern World
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2024
- In this video, we take a look at Orientations: 11 Points by Julius Evola, written in 1950. Make sure to check out my other Evola videos. Subscribe to this channel for more political philosophy. And when you're ready, join me at MillermanSchool.com
It is very sad to learn that Evola's thoughts in 1950 largely correspond to the world we live in right now - but absolutely excellently explained by MM.
Included antisemitism...
@@roberto6536 The world's most important challenge is not the topic of anti-Semitism - although some people believe that it is the most important issue for all other people in the world.
@@tommyandersson5878 Evola supported and justified the deportation and extermination of Jews operated by nazist and fascist regimes and their wars of aggression, and he was an enthusiast teorician of race and racism. It's important to remember evrything about an ideologist as Evola or you have only an agiography and that is not intellectually correct. (you could see online the photos of
Evola with Hitler and Mussolini).
@@roberto6536 shalom rabbi
@@roberto6536Richard Wagner's wife used to visit Dolf in prison and Nietzsche's sister was a member of NSDAP.
Why is it that so many otherwise notable and intelligent people share the same opinion on a certain matter?
10/10 Evola is one of the most misunderstood philosophers. You're doing God's work. Keep it up !
If Evola is 10, where is Codreanu?
@@drummersagainstitk What did you think of his book? Any thoughts in general about it?
Comparatively few are going to know much about Codreanu. He’s a very uniquely Romanian right winger.
@@adriantepesut a martyr
Explaining Evola is doing God's work? 👌
The intuition of these ideas have operated throughout my life. I have to admit, I have been at times all too infected by the weakness of our times. The collapse of all around me has awakened me to that which transcends myself. Better late than never...I hope.
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Something that helps me: "every saint had a past and every sinner has a future"
@@northstar92 Yes indeed!
Seek the grail brother.
You don't condemn or romanticize. But you are straightforward, clear and articulate. This was really good!
Fascinating!
Interesting to see you here! Your videos introduced me to Gai Eaton and I'm very thankful for that.
divine word by nouman ali khan and sharif randhawa , vocational science of freedom how your assets are stolen from birth . western governers university cheaper quicker more useful to start family sooner for less liklihood of health problems and lack of fertility and more kids from intellectual elite instead of genetically lower class
@LittleDolfie Nice profile pic lmao
I see what you did there
Fascis-naiting
You have a real knack for making complex/esoteric political philosophy accessible to the layperson!
Before I moved to writing on my website, I used to also make videos on Evola, and I am very glad you continue to produce such high-quality summaries of his work. Seeing a scholarly RUclips video is a rare, but welcomed sight.
Spectacularly good ,clear teaching. Authoritative and integrity, objectivity shine through.
Excellent
Glad you liked it!
Brilliant, thank you for giving voice to this most important contemporary thinker.
One thing I like about Michael's presentations besides his clarity is that he does not impose prejudices in his deliveries from either the Right or the Left.
It seems he has a very big prejudice in favor of the extreme Right. Actually he removed all the 'dark' aspect of Evola's ideas.
Thank you for your wonderful presentation of his 11 Points! I look forward to more Evola videos in the future!
Very inspiring work. Lucidly presented. I look forward to consuming more of your work.
Instant thumbs up. I'll listen tomorrow.
Love your videos on Evola and Dugin!
Fantastic video Michael. You always have a way of making these ideas more digestible.
Incredible content. Wonderfully precise.
Enjoyed your presentation of Evola. I never heard of him before. Great man!. Thank you😊
The timing was perfect for me to put this up as a comment on Stephen J Delaney substack on his article calling on Christians and Pagans in Ireland to come together in resisting against the government and it's destruction of the country and it's people. Thanks I think this talk will help.
Thank you! You explain things very clearly.
It saddens me I’m just discovering this guy at 40.
Awesome job , as usual Mr MM . ty
Thank you for bringing Evola to my attention. I, regrettably, never heard of him prior to this video, yet his words describe perfectly the modern societal devastation we are all witness to. I look forward to reading his works.
Great to see you covering this fascinating anti-liberal author
Great video, as a layman who has actually read Revolt Against Modern World and Ride the Tiger the philosophy required reading was a little much for me, this was a great way to approach it for...let's say..."lowest common denominator" type thinking to be polite lol
Books like that require multiple reads.
Once at an alt right gathering, a guy who was a student majoring in Philosophy told me it took him up to 15 mins. per page to read Heidegger, taking notes in the process. Definitely not for everybody. Evola is much more accessible to the average mind.
@@Frennemydistinction If the average schlub spent just half the time he wastes watching sportsball on real self-improvement, well perhaps the prognosis for the West wouldn't look so bad.
@LittleDolfie dont worry bro i own most his stuff physically
I've read modern philosophy so I understood Ride the Tiger.
Revolt Against the Modern World referenced so much ancient mythsand symbolism it was difficult for me to follow since I'm not as familiar with it
thanks bro. I wish you had been one of my professors, or even HS teachers 50 years ago when this might have done me some good. You are doing the Lord's work.
Seems so strange for someone that was in school 50 years ago saying "bro".
Not casting shade or anything, just surprised me.
@@HalideHelix If my comments deserve "shade" by all means cast it. Few people from my era are in the comments threads, and I tend to adopt (to adapt) the speech mannerisms of my group. I use the argot "ironically," making myself seem clever in my own eyes. Peace.
I'm 52, so probably just a decade or so behind you, but I wish to God Almighty I'd had a teacher like Mr. Millerman back when I was a high-schooler/college undergraduate in the late 80s and early 90s. My whole life would've been spent very differently, for sure.
@@personanongrata7976I respect the hell out of older people that are into these topics. You have some wisdom to draw on, a lot of us younger guys are just angry and that's why we started reading obscure fringe ideas to find answers. At least I did and I look to older people to keep me in check, if that makes sense.
Lots of gold here
Millerman is indispensable. 🙌
Excellent. Thank you
I like his thoughts distinguishing the spirit from religion. Thank you for the summary
I agree with all the positive comments. The presentation aligns very well with my own thinking.
Heard of Cameron MacGregor (Men in the City)?
Venn Diagram overlapping going on. What you’re presenting seems like floorboard material for some of his output .
Terrific!
If a master class has ever been presented on the essence of Evolas work, this is it. Transcendence indeed!
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" Therefore, O Arjuna, surrendering all your works unto Me, with mind intent on Me, and without desire for gain and free from egoism and lethargy - fight"
Bhagavad-Gita
That was really great. Explained well, flowed from start to finish. Intertwined quotes well with expository. Solid A, gold star, what have you. Evola is smart; you too. I am less. The second best main bad guy in the Final Fantasy series is Kefka from #3/6j. It was popular, you may have played it. When you read the quote about Reactionary not being a strong enough word, I imagined Kefka pushing the statues apart; just to shatter the world. And I imagined a funny scene with post-modern philosophers generating word salad the whole time.
Evola was an aristocrat.
Oh this is going to be great
These vids are awesome, thanks for your impartial exploration of a fascinating thinker. Do you have plans to survey authors on the far-left as well? It would be very interesting to see these two ends of the spectrum come into contact
Thanks for your comment. Yes, I'd like to. I have done a video on Agamben's reading of Derrida but otherwise not many on leftist thinkers. In my book Beginning with Heidegger, I have chapters on Rorty and Derrida. Currently I'm reading Cornel West's book on American pragmatism, etc.
@@millermanFrom the left you could do Karl Popper. The infamous WEF is founded on his philosophy
This is a wonderful précis
Excellent! Ty
“A complex unity in the process of decline.” Powerful
great!
I’m gonna order his books
I also wrote another one called I AM THE SPIRIT, also most of my songs are formed from reading EVOLAS works.
Evola really sounds like Platos 'lion' if it had become trancesendant. Really captivating.
What's Plato's lion?
3 in and I already love this!!! The world is suffering from weak men!!!
Thanks!
I would appreciate Michael Millerman analyzing a counterpoint to Evola's book -- The Rules of St Benedict, which discusses the principles of living in a religious community.
Furio Jesi is considered the main expert on Evola philosophy: a 'must' when you talk of Evola, but I supposed you read only english translation.
Thoughts on reading books in print vs pdf format through a screen? Thanks.
I prefer books but sometimes PDF is all you have, and some people prefer the convenience of an ebook (not me). Whatever works for you, whatever you have available.
A neglectedly discussed aspect of information processing is eye movement. The eyes when reading a book scan from left to right, which aids attention and information retention; while on a screen the eyes "zoom out" and stare at a block with very little scanning at all. The long term consequences of this more recent development are not yet known, but it is safe to say at the least that there is a physical difference between the two.
Thank you
Who is John Galt?
Thank you for introducing me to this philosopher. Very interesting concepts. Some similarities to Ayn Rand.
A character in Ayn Rand's writings.
Camus' existentialism is not inconsistent with Nietzsche and Evola after the moment of the Myth of Sisyphus
Nietzsche journey went through abyss and tragedy - but beyond all of that; its the human physiological-psychological-psychic-spiritual-cultural mode - tragedy/comedy, suffering and moments of glory. The monotheistic abrahamism attempts to subvert (project and scapegoat) and avoid tragedy.
Does Evola say how one goes about acquiring a belief in transcendent reality?
Please do a video about Uncle Ted.
Ted nugget?I agree
Coco Chanel instantly popped into my mind as a female model of Evola’s traditional man. Read her biography, you will see.
Interesting....I didn't know that
This is just an excerpt but I think you can see there is an analogy to be made
johnshaplin.blogspot.com/2020/11/chanel-and-reverdy-by-edmonde.html
I never read Evola, but the introduction you gave, while I can agree with most of it, presents a notion that frightens me (it was Hitler's motto and was now refurbished by the totalitarian EU): "The common good, above the individual good" - it reduces humans to bees in a hive and, somehow, contradicts other points presented. I would need time to dig further into this.
Okay, but where has prioritizing "the individual good" for at least the last 80 years gotten the West?
@@thadtuiol1717 Not prioritizing - just let the individuals alone.
@LittleDolfie They have more than you think. The Brussels midwife is a nazi, from a nazi family and NATO's main puppet is also from a distinct nazi family. There's a long nazi tradition in European "values".
What's a Nazi? Is it just anyone you dont like?
The problem with the EU is that it looks for uniformity based on economics instead of a unity based on spiritual values. Evola is talking about something like Christendom, the Caliphate, and Imperial Japan.
whenever you can't quite make sense of the world, Michael "Millertime" Millerman has a book for you!
Who is to conceptualise THE grand idea?
Spiritual Eugenics.
The pick and choose approach to history of Evola, Guenon and alikes has the opposite effect of what they think they do: Instead of returning to a traditional reality or instating a truly heroic life they accelerate into post-modernist uncertainty. They try to obscure the contradiction between tradition and new order with vague spirituality or mysticism. That's why the supposedly eternal transcendent truths they carve out always differ.
They nominally reject LARPers but actually produce them via their post-modern view on history. Because of theese kind of writings people skip between all kinds of religions, combine and mix ideas and in the course of that loose themselves in (mostly consumerist) estranged self-expression. If you have been on social media, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
Evolas argument talks traditionalist but acts liberal.
finally, an accurate criticism! i always say Evola is a postmodern new-ager pretending to be traditional. thanks for your insightful comment
Amazing recomendation papa. Do you think Juluis Evola was an anti semite?
Who cares?
Talk about yukio mishima
If the objective is to become heroic in the true sense of the word then that heroic struggle extends to all walks of life including the ecclesiastical. Evola wasn’t a Christian - he was an esoteric - yet his observations, insofar as they apply to a means of restoring manful tradition in the West, must apply to the Church as well. Want to save society? You need to save the church - it’s spiritual basis - as well. The reason it is in dire straits is the same reason everything else is - the mass of men has been funnelled into a small sector of the professions, where excellence is still possible - an imitation of heroic struggle - in pursuit of wealth and as such the life blood of every other part of the body politic is absent.
Platonism for modern times.Refreshing.
Anybody in the comments section know how I can purchase Alexander Dugins - 4th Political Theory in Australia?
"Are there still men?"
You just know he isnt referring to 51% of the population or anything so common sensical.
It's very encouraging to see that nowadays feminists are taking up Evola's question and ask "where are all the good men?" 😬
@@goonofhazard2203 They destroyed the good men.
@MaryC-co8fm It's very tempting to believe that, but I think it would be confusing cause and effect. We are in the last phase of Western civilization. That's the cause. Feminism/materialism/collectivism/atheism/feminization are the effect.
@@MaryC-co8fmmen need to take responsibility. Stop blaming women for where men made mistakes.
@ccmetalhead Women are gonna be women. The problem is that men now want to be women too (commies).
Evola had high regard for al-Islam, seeing it as a complete religion, with a legal framework, AND, an inner dimension of transcendence (Sufism).
No, that is more like what would Guenon and Schuon think, Evola saw everything ready to decline. Some religions and nations may took longer but they will fall.
Also Sufism is just about barely Islam, like Nizari.
The preacher and The poet
Hi. Can you define the word tradition according to Evola? Just a sentence. Please no chat gpt or anything like AI.
Yooooooooooooooooooo LFG
Would it be fair to say Evola wants the imperium of man from Warhammer 40k?
How do you spell the name of that conservative thinker Vandenbrouck? Van den broek?
Van den Bruck millermanschool.com/p/van-den-bruck-course
Perhaps ironically, Evola was the most influential non-Catholic author in me beginning to practise the Catholic Faith. I know in his earlier writings he took issue with the Church in much deeper ways, but his criticism here can be answered by the internal logic of the Catholic worldview, which holds that the three-fold unity of the Church in Faith, Sacraments, and Government is hierarchical: the latter two exist for the sake of the former, which means to exercise authority in the Church you must adhere to the entirety of Catholic dogma.
I also see his criticisms of the Axis as pretty armchair-y.
Nonetheless this piece is a great criticism of our world, its myths, and narratives.
The church is not solving anything now then why?
@@WhiteBaronn I'm not clear on what you're asking. Are you asking 'why is the Church not solving anything,' or 'why did you join the Church when it's not solving anything'?
@@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx yep
@@zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx I mean the church literally blesses gay marriages now
Yes, it reminds me of how Father Seraphim Rose began his journey toward Orthodoxy when he discovered Rene Guenon, who he ended up strongly disagreeing with theologically, but deeply respected for his insightful critique of modernity.
Yeah I wrote a song about thus called the God of Nowhere
Can you do Mein Kampf next? Why beat around the bush?
@@remz6601 But you do.
Its kinda boring though
Mien kampf is lame gitler was a idiot
15:45
Evola's utilitarian endorsement of religion, which seems it might even favor it as a necessary fiction, would not please most any Christian today, what with their highly specific doctrinal arguments and the logically important nature of said specificity with relation to the function of religion as civilization's only hope, through objective morality. Atheists have forced them to become more sophisticated, and so now they arrive at a point where Evola's religion, completely uninterested in theology, eschatology, and the particulars of salvation, seems like it would insult them.
Evola, a man on a razors edge. You work out what I mean by that.
Is this philosophy equivalent to the DonQuixote-ventriloquizing lyrics of 'The Impossible Dream' !?
good one 😂
You’ve got to give back to get out of here
What remains of your culture now little boy blue
did you give back the treasure you stole
did the demons within set you free from your sin
but deny you the key to your soul
You’ve got to give back to get out of here
there is only one path you must choose
did Marie Antoinette with her last cigarette
declare “give the poor beggar my shoes!”
Are you paying the price for redemption
is there more to be gained than is lost
did you sign your confession not learning your lesson
and end up just counting the cost
You’ve got to give back to get out of here
there is only one path you must find
did the first man in space feel a bit out of place
when he thought that they’d left him behind
Now you’ve got to be blind not to notice
that the worlds not the way that it seems
and if all you can do is just think about you
then you’re too busy living your dreams
You’ve got to give back to get out of here
this is only one moment in time
could Houdini escape without being awake
to the forces by which he was tied
You’ve got to give back to get out of here
there is only one path you will need
take the road straight ahead and don’t ever forget
that you don’t have to win to succeed
Kehoesongs copyright reserved ©️
Thanks for sharing this. Is there a recorded version with music?
if people think things are bad right now they should have tried being in the Eastern areas of England in the times of the Saxon and Danish invasions and wars etc... we have so many good ipportunities and freedoms and protections these days.. yes it's not perfect but we can fine tune that
27:11 As much as I admire Evola and humble myself before his cultured erudition, I insist that he fails to appreciate the first doctrine of the Catholic faith: the sin of Adam.
Men cannot achieve Evola's vision without this appreciation, i.e. without being Catholic. And as history now plainly shows, not even then.
I owe Jean Parvulesco's works the introduction to Julius Evola's great mind . They were both wise men living in the world of cave dwelling Darwinians . "L' esprit de coer " should sum it up . But how many men today know it ?
Plato: "Democracy is the worst form of government".
baZed
The one spirit in it's decline is somewhat nonsensical imo. What gives him the right to reject class analysis and write off socialism as if it were at all similar to liberalism?
Because it follows the same basic axioms: all humans are equal, should be free from hierarchy and oppression and this freedom allows them to humanistically define their own subjective meaning, which through their shared materialism usually means hedonism, consumption and security.
Socialism and liberalism might be superficially different, but they are far closer to each other than either of them is to traditionalism.
Why do people pronounce Nietzsche as Nicha? It's not like you are trying to pronounce Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz.
I can pronounce that. And all eastern European names.(I'm from there😅)
Gregor Brejickawits?
27:25 this is where/how Quietism started the emasculation of the Faith described, the Faith of St John of the Cross
At 12:30 - never in the history of the world have we had a system based on rank and command, from Claudius to hitler, that didnt amount to meuling neurotics and subpar intelligences, and never has "spirtual racism" not amounted to simple racism among cultures. The dream of human hierarchy as "good" is a more sulfurous wind egg than an acceptance of multi-dimensional human potential.
As far as I can tell, Evola confronts fascism and then moves in to embrace it heartily.
He was wrong about psychoanalysis. No one goes to analysis to become more disturbed, more disorganized, and if it is the case, it’s only transitory. Only by investigating the internal antagonism can it be transformed into a sense of destiny.
Most of it is just codependence with the collective Other
Evola is an outstanding thinker, but he was too focused on his ideas, although it follows from his ideas that the power of the “fourth estate” is inevitable, this power already manifests itself, because the “fourth estate” is characteristic that it directly interacts with matter, this So all workers, artisans, engineers, etc. They make up this estate, the peak of which is engineers. Therefore, future technocracy, the sprouts of which we are already observing.
I'm looking for an honest man- Diogenes of Sinope.
I heard all this and couldn't help wonder, " okay...be heroic and have an idea but why?" I get the impression his god isn't God but being heroic for the sake of being heroic but I keep asking why? It's like he's focused on the byproducts of ideas but any idea will do as long as it produces heroism so you could be a heroic pagan and as long as you are heroic that's all he cares about. I'm seeing this pattern more and more as people start swing back from Leftism that they are identifying the fruits of Right Wing thought but aren't able to commit to the root of the tree bearing fruit. Can you artificially have Christianity without Christ? I get the impression that's what a lot of Right Wingers are hoping to accomplish.
Total Evolian Victory
You have to start with the fact that by “tradition” Evola means his crazy idea that all culture comes from an ancient and unknown civilization in the extreme north, near the arctic circle. He doesn’t mean anything like “how we’ve been living in the Levant for thousands of years.” It’s a completely hopeless notion.
Evola says in revolt, if something is true it’s always been true, it can’t be new. The tradition he’s talking about is the tradition of true virtue, it’s very Platonic. I don’t agree with the ancient north aspect of his work either but his idea of tradition isn’t specific to that, at least the way I read it.
Right. Metaphysics. The timeless.
@@scottgodwin I think a lot of people take it that way, but it’s not what Evola means.
@@johnqpublic3766can you elaborate
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@@ccmetalhead It’s exactly what I just said. When Evola says “tradition,” he doesn’t mean what de Maistre or Chesterton mean. He means his speculative reconstruction of the ancient origins of civilization.
That "one spirit" behind 20thcentury ideology is belief in transcendent objective morality, which, with some irony, was born first by Abrahamic religion. Ironic because the Christian declares that ideological horrors are the result of atheism, which in part they may be, but only in so far as they've carried forward what they've been infected with, which is that aforementioned belief, and done so without the regulating (albeit internally contradicting) whole of the Abrahamic canons.
While some theorists instrumental in said ideologies proclaim against such a belief (post-modernism), the rank and file are animated by it, and were conditioned to become warriors for ideologies by their sensitivity to ominous remonstrations in their formative years, and conditioning for the lust of moral championhood, in habits that themselves trace back to Abrahamic faiths.
One can be, and history can move towards, more and more empathy and equality, but the seed that wreaks havoc where these motives meet their instruments of power, is this vestigial belief in transcendent objective morality.
Evola is right "light". He's near the bottom of the list of idealogical importance. Codreanu is the voice and vision near or at the top.
You should read The Saint of the Prisons about Valeriu Gafencu.
@LittleDolfie No, it's about the New Martyr Valeriu Gafencu who was in the Legionaires, his life, sufferings, death, dialogues, poems and letters. It mostly goes over his sufferings, his inner spiritual life and how he affected others around him while in four different prisons for ten years before his death from tuberculosis. It cross references other Legionaires and Romanian history of the time with numerous footnotes from Romanian sources. If you want a book about Codreanu, For My Legionaires is the standard work of his.
@@ElonMuskrat-my8jy Codreanu was the vision. Don't be sidetracked.
@@drummersagainstitk My vision is union with Christ in theosis which was attained by Valeriu Gafencu. That's the purpose for humanity, to be conformed to the likeness of Christ in theosis.
@@ElonMuskrat-my8jy I agree. The greatest issue within the right sphere is the chasm btw the faithful and the unfaithful. Whomever can bridge it, is the leader.
At 8:00 - christ drew the clear paradigm of individual epiphany and redemption, free of pharasee/tribal interference and corruption. Evola loves the Roman church at the expense of Christ's universal promise. Facists and communists hate an individual's personal communion with God equally - there's no earthly power to take advantage of in it.
20:17 Completely mis-understands the Catholic faith.
His misconceived condescension is staggering.
I continue to read him only because he is a genius.
This kind of error, from a lesser man, would remove him from my reading list forever.
Defeat the comfort seeking merchant mind. Embrace the will of Christ!
Own nothing and be happy?
@@cas343what is happiness? What is the purpose of people?
Consume and coooom?
@@jaykong1128 Live in ze pod. Eat ze bugs. Serve.
Lol, right right, Only ignorance and harm are possible! were all determined to get in ze pod!
Evola embraced the idea of a hierarchical society governed by a male spiritual elite or male warrior caste. If that's anyone's idea as to what's desirable, then I can only pity them.
yes it’s the philosophy of the immature masculine. it’s like an angry teenage boy who feels emasculated and is projecting.
"I missed the part where that's my problem"
@@nikolajignatiev6323 I didn't say that it was your problem ... so that's something else you missed. I recommend paying better attention.
@@richardoldfield6714 and you missed the meme so it all checks out.
But those that you think they need your pity, are the most free man of the world, so you can keep your pity for personal use.
@@nikolajignatiev6323 Only you know what your words are supposed to mean. In meantime, in connection with Evola's bulllshit I recommend you check out the meaning of toxic masculinity ... a corrupted and twisted version of real masculinity.