Conquest Pass + helped me catch up on the conquest characters that I was missing with the extra proving grounds. Now that I have them all and I'm unlocking all the newer characters before they hit proving grounds, I just get the regular pass for the extra rewards track.
I will say that my experience from buying both, (I didn’t get the conquest pass+ until they revamped the value) but I will probably always get the pass+. For reference, I am at 11.7m. I have all GLs, and every legendary sans BKM. Reasons I like are the increased stamina, regeneration, consumables. The skipped feats are great for me, but the biggest reason is that Data Disk is amazing. I will concede that the extra $20 usd is a bit steep, but for the ease of conquest, more energy, saving time, it is worth it. Also disk swapping is a huge pain.
I was away from the game for a while and missed every conquest character/ship. Ive gotten the +Pass the last 3 times and the extra 20 each shard for the conquest toons and ships has definitely been worth it. Although, unlocking 6+ conquest units at same time will hurt :)
The extra investment is totally worth the multiple datacrons, dc mats, and datacron re-roll mats you will get after completing the redbox. The 50% regen rate makes it easier to max all of you desired dc's. Currently, the event has four days remaining, and I've maxed four datacrons and am working on my fifth. A solid investment that pays out for three and a half months, giving you an edge that boosts more rewards. Btw, great channel!
legendary consumable boost is AMAZING. it trivializes those late sector "get kills with X team" you don't even need to be high geared combine that with AA setup / swiftness / and the momentum disk your g10 -12 characters will rip through sector 5 just equiping ONE consumbable that you get a ton of through the reward track. It sups their speed up 20% allowing your team to go first and triggering ruthless swiftness because of momentum
Honestly, the lion's share of it is done by the deadly momentum disk! I've never needed to use the legendary boost when I have bought it. Deadly momentum is all kinds of broken.
It depends on if you can out speed your opponent without it. Sometimes teams need that extra speed to get over the hump to be able to win and I literally use it all the time just so I can guarantee going first
Do you know if you can change currencies? Since they introduced my currency ingame (MXN) they have made everything more expensive that I would actually pay in USD basically double the price, so I was wondering if there is a way to change it to USD
I have bought the Normal Pass pretty often and the Plus Pass only once, so I am not an expert, but I 100% agree with this analysis. The Pass Plus is indeed too pricey for what it brings. Also the timing is important To really benefit the most from the Plus pack, you need to buy it at the very first second of Conquest, but when it is the first wave of a 3 wave Conquest, you don't know how well you will manage and you are not sure much you will really need the Pass to get the red crate. Whereas normal pass can be bought at any time without losing value, so there is less pressure to make the quick decision.
The regular pass is great value if for nothing else getting 10 shards of the featured unit. The plus pass is good if you’re grinding out feats for red crate - the stamina regeneration and disk swapping are huge boosts, plus all the boosters and stims. But this one is a lot more niche and for endgame players And if you are datacron farming, you’ll get marginally more energy. But if you’re only doing conquest for datacrons it’s probably not worth the $30
You get 20 shards of the featured unit :). I don't personally get the value for feat grinding - extra stamina is nice, extra energy is OK too...it works out at about 80-90 extra energy over the course of conquest. Skipping feats and the rest is just a convenience thing tbh
I like your idea of getting Pass+ whenever they start a new Conquest unit. I had used Pass+ to catch up and now have everyone except Bane. Going forward I might flip flop between Pass and Pass+.
I think Pass+ has its benefits more so then the regular one. Allows you to skip 2 feats (I think?) Gives stamina regen, consumables incase of emergancy, and kyros. Stamina regen = faster conquest = faster red box = faster datacron simming.
But the two feats in this case are VERY accessible. The Peitt and Veers feat can be done in one, maybe two battles. Granted, maybe not everyone can swing that one, although in Hard mode most people probably can. The other feat is Rebels. There are so many Rebels teams. CLS, Mon Mothma, Rouge One, Phoenix and more. The Rebel feat can be done organically while you go through (it even works in combination with events in other sectors.) The Stamina and energy regen are nice, and really useful for datacron farming, but not needed to get the red crate.
I remain convinced that CG doesn't actually expect a lot of players to buy the Pass+. I think it's a form of price anchoring - the regular Pass looks like a much better deal when you compare it to the Pass+. And a small correction: no, you can't find Deadly Momentum via regular progression. You can find Deadly Catalyst, though, which is virtually the same disk under a different name.
@@ScrybeGaming I can't remember if there was just a Pass before they introduced the Pass+. Regardless, I think the Pass+ is marketing for the Pass. They know certain spenders will always get the Pass+, just like there are certain spenders who will buy those crazy $200 omicron packs. Then they price the Pass to look enticing for folks who spend modest amounts in the game who will unconsciously compare it to the Pass+ and think it's a great deal.
My last Conquest Past was more than a year ago. I used to get the basic one, but it the end it is not worth it for me. Yes free diskswapping is awesome, but I just mostly keep the same disks and learn to play with it, except for couple of cheeses. It will cost me a couple of extra crystals. If the basic in the future comes with free swaps I’ll probably be buying it again. For extra reference I get to finish Red box on day 6/7 every conquest. Only doing 50 and 100’s and last day some 200
I think if your starting out and able to accomplish a lot of proving grounds battles I think your getting good value from the pass+ People with less time available might find value in the pass+ otherwise. it's a 2200 crystals for a refresh. I did it on my 2nd account and Now have malgus ben solo boba cat and maul unlocked which obviously gives me other probablems lol.
The ONLY time I have found Deadly Catalyst is when I purchased the Pass+ and already had Deadly Momentum. I like the free swapping of data disks, but I really don't see the Pass+ as worth it. I often get the regular pass.
I agree with thos assessment i am missing every conquest unit till DTMG except razor crest so i have been buying them but once im caught up im done buying them
I agree that swapping disks should be free and not cost stamina. It would be fun to change up disks and experiment more. Instead, we just go with the most effective, all around great builds and stick with them.
I was just a pass guy Then the sythe was added to proving grounds the one i missed from my hiatus seeing 0 on is concerning how much i need for Gac soon as i have it I'll be done with + granted fromit helping me and refreshes im 543 banners only need 87 to red box and only just started sector 5 so my datacron farm will be in full sim soon, the cash for signal to good though
I just can't bring myself to buy either one. I'm not free to play. I bought hyperdrive and lightspeed bundles, but $120 a year basically for some signal data and less grinding...can't do it. I get the characters at the end of the 6th round for free and that's good enough for me. Just my opinion. Thanks for the video!
I play conquest for datacrons, signal data, bronze wiring and carbonite circuit boards. I am resigned to getting conquest characters via proving grounds. I do not have the resources to get them to relic anyway, so why rush them? As a mid game 5.2m gp player I do not lack characters / ships to farm!!!
If I did have the resources and the teams those conquest characters go with, I would buy the conquest+ pass, its only £10 more and I think in SWGoH / gacha terms it actually gives decent value.
Im a dolphin. Swgoh has entertained me the last 2 years, and continues to entertain me. So i dont mind dropping $20 here and there. So this will be my 3rd conquest pass +. I really want bane, i even shifted my next gl farm (after my profundity farm) to SEE to take full advantage of bane. I am in no position to get red box, but the bonus track and everything is going to allow me to unlock bane the 4th go around pretty easily. By the end of this conquest i should have around 300 shards. So pretty excited. And may even be able to unlock queen padme at this rate.
If i would play for like a year and buy every month conquest pass, for me it would be 180usd. I cant justify this amount of money for this game and not owning anything...
That's a completely fair stance :). it's a matter of perspective, though...you could buy two coffees in a coffee house each week and spend a lot more than that over the course of a year :).
Yes, but i dont buy coffee in coffee houses twice a week, in fact i dont do it at all...the point is that you spend almost 200usd and you dont own that, you cant use those money for real stuff 200 usd is like money that can buy you real stuff that can be used quite long time...
I think you're totally missing the point, but that's OK XD. I understand where you're coming from - it's £130 a year to pay for that (52weeks in a year, divided by 4 is 13 Conquests in a year. 13x£10 = £130). The point I'm making is that you can spend £130 over the course of a year on MANY things that are not necessary and don't provide you with a lasting benefit; Daily newspapers, coffee, chocolates, going to a concert, an event, a gathering. Ultimately, the point you're trying to make is that you don't find value in the pack and there's nothing wrong with that at all :). Value in digital gaming is entirely subjective and there's not anything I could say to change your mind, nor should I :). We're allowed our different standpoints on these things and that's totally OK :).@rturos7050
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Conquest Pass + helped me catch up on the conquest characters that I was missing with the extra proving grounds. Now that I have them all and I'm unlocking all the newer characters before they hit proving grounds, I just get the regular pass for the extra rewards track.
Smart move :)
what does the extra proving grounds do ?
More shards @@ciaranallen4440
I will say that my experience from buying both, (I didn’t get the conquest pass+ until they revamped the value) but I will probably always get the pass+. For reference, I am at 11.7m. I have all GLs, and every legendary sans BKM. Reasons I like are the increased stamina, regeneration, consumables. The skipped feats are great for me, but the biggest reason is that Data Disk is amazing. I will concede that the extra $20 usd is a bit steep, but for the ease of conquest, more energy, saving time, it is worth it. Also disk swapping is a huge pain.
Thanks for the input :). I'm also done with the journey guide and conquest units. I just can't justify the price tag at the point.
I was away from the game for a while and missed every conquest character/ship. Ive gotten the +Pass the last 3 times and the extra 20 each shard for the conquest toons and ships has definitely been worth it. Although, unlocking 6+ conquest units at same time will hurt :)
Yup - that's a lot of gear. The Pass+ is perfect for you
In that survey a while back, I suggested that the swapping be under the basic pass
So did I lol
The extra investment is totally worth the multiple datacrons, dc mats, and datacron re-roll mats you will get after completing the redbox. The 50% regen rate makes it easier to max all of you desired dc's.
Currently, the event has four days remaining, and I've maxed four datacrons and am working on my fifth.
A solid investment that pays out for three and a half months, giving you an edge that boosts more rewards.
Btw, great channel!
Shhh, don't tell people about the benefits of farming Datacrons - they'll grab the fire and pitchforks and burn you at the stake.
legendary consumable boost is AMAZING. it trivializes those late sector "get kills with X team" you don't even need to be high geared combine that with AA setup / swiftness / and the momentum disk your g10 -12 characters will rip through sector 5 just equiping ONE consumbable that you get a ton of through the reward track. It sups their speed up 20% allowing your team to go first and triggering ruthless swiftness because of momentum
Honestly, the lion's share of it is done by the deadly momentum disk! I've never needed to use the legendary boost when I have bought it.
Deadly momentum is all kinds of broken.
It depends on if you can out speed your opponent without it. Sometimes teams need that extra speed to get over the hump to be able to win and I literally use it all the time just so I can guarantee going first
Do you know if you can change currencies?
Since they introduced my currency ingame (MXN) they have made everything more expensive that I would actually pay in USD basically double the price, so I was wondering if there is a way to change it to USD
There's no legal way to do so - doing it by any means is a breach of the Terms of Service of the game. CG/EA could ban your account.
@@ScrybeGaming Got it, well, better not risk it!
Thanks for letting me know!
I have bought the Normal Pass pretty often and the Plus Pass only once, so I am not an expert, but I 100% agree with this analysis.
The Pass Plus is indeed too pricey for what it brings.
Also the timing is important
To really benefit the most from the Plus pack, you need to buy it at the very first second of Conquest, but when it is the first wave of a 3 wave Conquest, you don't know how well you will manage and you are not sure much you will really need the Pass to get the red crate.
Whereas normal pass can be bought at any time without losing value, so there is less pressure to make the quick decision.
Thanks for the comment :). Pretty much agreed :) :)
The regular pass is great value if for nothing else getting 10 shards of the featured unit.
The plus pass is good if you’re grinding out feats for red crate - the stamina regeneration and disk swapping are huge boosts, plus all the boosters and stims. But this one is a lot more niche and for endgame players
And if you are datacron farming, you’ll get marginally more energy. But if you’re only doing conquest for datacrons it’s probably not worth the $30
You get 20 shards of the featured unit :).
I don't personally get the value for feat grinding - extra stamina is nice, extra energy is OK too...it works out at about 80-90 extra energy over the course of conquest. Skipping feats and the rest is just a convenience thing tbh
I like your idea of getting Pass+ whenever they start a new Conquest unit. I had used Pass+ to catch up and now have everyone except Bane. Going forward I might flip flop between Pass and Pass+.
It's always helpful for me because of the video making process. I think the pass + is mostly there to help people that need to catch up on old units.
I think Pass+ has its benefits more so then the regular one.
Allows you to skip 2 feats (I think?) Gives stamina regen, consumables incase of emergancy, and kyros.
Stamina regen = faster conquest = faster red box = faster datacron simming.
Those feats can easily be done on bonus nodes. It doesn't really let you farm DCs any more than normal.
But the two feats in this case are VERY accessible. The Peitt and Veers feat can be done in one, maybe two battles. Granted, maybe not everyone can swing that one, although in Hard mode most people probably can. The other feat is Rebels. There are so many Rebels teams. CLS, Mon Mothma, Rouge One, Phoenix and more. The Rebel feat can be done organically while you go through (it even works in combination with events in other sectors.)
The Stamina and energy regen are nice, and really useful for datacron farming, but not needed to get the red crate.
But I do agree that energy and stamina benefits do have an impact on DC farming :)
I remain convinced that CG doesn't actually expect a lot of players to buy the Pass+. I think it's a form of price anchoring - the regular Pass looks like a much better deal when you compare it to the Pass+.
And a small correction: no, you can't find Deadly Momentum via regular progression. You can find Deadly Catalyst, though, which is virtually the same disk under a different name.
Didn't the conquest pass feature as it's own thing before pass+?
I didn't realise that it was a different data disk :). My bad.
@@ScrybeGaming I can't remember if there was just a Pass before they introduced the Pass+. Regardless, I think the Pass+ is marketing for the Pass. They know certain spenders will always get the Pass+, just like there are certain spenders who will buy those crazy $200 omicron packs. Then they price the Pass to look enticing for folks who spend modest amounts in the game who will unconsciously compare it to the Pass+ and think it's a great deal.
Are the conquest pass portraits only for hard mode?
Hm, I don't actually know as I've not seen the normal pass rewards.
My last Conquest Past was more than a year ago. I used to get the basic one, but it the end it is not worth it for me. Yes free diskswapping is awesome, but I just mostly keep the same disks and learn to play with it, except for couple of cheeses. It will cost me a couple of extra crystals. If the basic in the future comes with free swaps I’ll probably be buying it again.
For extra reference I get to finish Red box on day 6/7 every conquest. Only doing 50 and 100’s and last day some 200
Thanks for the insight, Roy!
yup, conquest is definitely doable without the pass :)
I think if your starting out and able to accomplish a lot of proving grounds battles I think your getting good value from the pass+ People with less time available might find value in the pass+ otherwise. it's a 2200 crystals for a refresh. I did it on my 2nd account and Now have malgus ben solo boba cat and maul unlocked which obviously gives me other probablems lol.
Yup, it has good value for people catching up on Conquest characters for sure :)
I get red box the normal way, sure it's grindy and tedious but doable
Yup, no doubt!
The ONLY time I have found Deadly Catalyst is when I purchased the Pass+ and already had Deadly Momentum.
I like the free swapping of data disks, but I really don't see the Pass+ as worth it. I often get the regular pass.
Oh man, that's harsh
I agree with thos assessment i am missing every conquest unit till DTMG except razor crest so i have been buying them but once im caught up im done buying them
Won't be long for you, I'm sure!
I agree that swapping disks should be free and not cost stamina. It would be fun to change up disks and experiment more. Instead, we just go with the most effective, all around great builds and stick with them.
Pretty much! It leads to making conquest stale, I feel!
Hey buddy, are you on discord channel? Also, was wondering if u were gonna stream swgoh today?
Hey man, yeah...I have a discord channel (linked in description.) I'm usually pretty active. Going live soon.
@@ScrybeGaming awesome my friend. I'll try to find it and add it to my discord stuff. Thanks.
thanks for explaining this shit for us 🍻
You got it!
I was just a pass guy
Then the sythe was added to proving grounds the one i missed from my hiatus seeing 0 on is concerning how much i need for Gac soon as i have it I'll be done with + granted fromit helping me and refreshes im 543 banners only need 87 to red box and only just started sector 5 so my datacron farm will be in full sim soon, the cash for signal to good though
Yeah, the credits there is a huge benefit really!
I just can't bring myself to buy either one. I'm not free to play. I bought hyperdrive and lightspeed bundles, but $120 a year basically for some signal data and less grinding...can't do it. I get the characters at the end of the 6th round for free and that's good enough for me. Just my opinion. Thanks for the video!
Everyone's opinion is valid! These packs only have subjective value anyways; I was just putting mine across :)
Yep, if the pass was including free datadisc swaps, I would buy it every time.
I am a conquest pass guy. Since the start.
More or less the same here :)
Love your content man
Thanks! I appreciate the support!
I play conquest for datacrons, signal data, bronze wiring and carbonite circuit boards. I am resigned to getting conquest characters via proving grounds. I do not have the resources to get them to relic anyway, so why rush them? As a mid game 5.2m gp player I do not lack characters / ships to farm!!!
If I did have the resources and the teams those conquest characters go with, I would buy the conquest+ pass, its only £10 more and I think in SWGoH / gacha terms it actually gives decent value.
@@meglobob9217 Is it only 10 in usd it's 20
Im a dolphin. Swgoh has entertained me the last 2 years, and continues to entertain me. So i dont mind dropping $20 here and there.
So this will be my 3rd conquest pass +. I really want bane, i even shifted my next gl farm (after my profundity farm) to SEE to take full advantage of bane. I am in no position to get red box, but the bonus track and everything is going to allow me to unlock bane the 4th go around pretty easily. By the end of this conquest i should have around 300 shards. So pretty excited. And may even be able to unlock queen padme at this rate.
But yes. I have NO conquest characters besides bams ship. So the double proving grounds is a great value as well.
If i would play for like a year and buy every month conquest pass, for me it would be 180usd. I cant justify this amount of money for this game and not owning anything...
That's a completely fair stance :). it's a matter of perspective, though...you could buy two coffees in a coffee house each week and spend a lot more than that over the course of a year :).
Yes, but i dont buy coffee in coffee houses twice a week, in fact i dont do it at all...the point is that you spend almost 200usd and you dont own that, you cant use those money for real stuff 200 usd is like money that can buy you real stuff that can be used quite long time...
I think you're totally missing the point, but that's OK XD. I understand where you're coming from - it's £130 a year to pay for that (52weeks in a year, divided by 4 is 13 Conquests in a year. 13x£10 = £130).
The point I'm making is that you can spend £130 over the course of a year on MANY things that are not necessary and don't provide you with a lasting benefit; Daily newspapers, coffee, chocolates, going to a concert, an event, a gathering.
Ultimately, the point you're trying to make is that you don't find value in the pack and there's nothing wrong with that at all :). Value in digital gaming is entirely subjective and there's not anything I could say to change your mind, nor should I :). We're allowed our different standpoints on these things and that's totally OK :).@rturos7050