Superbly explained. I'm now inspired with a respectful level of confidence to do something similar to convert my 68 AMX 'trunnion' design to coil-overs 👍👍😎👍👍(don't worry, I understand suspension design is definitely not trivial 😂).
Dear Sir , some nice work there , easy adjustability , less binding in the system , etc . But unfortunately there is a major flaw in the design ,especially in a heavier vehicle model . As you stated the upper plate / coil over mount , takes the full force of the vehicle load so then ,does that load be exerted upon the lower outer ball joint in EXTENSION , causing the joint to seperate , will actually rip the ball completely from the socket especially in a sudden shock moment eg a sharp pavement change , pot hole etc. Ford made this same mistake from 1988 Falcon ( Australia ) mounting the OEM style coil over at the lower arm . Ideally you should use a ball joint which has the effective load against it reversed, ie compressing the joint rather than extending it . There's a few ways this can be achieved.
Thank you for sharing your concerns but that flaw does not exist in my setup. I am not using a stock ford ball joint. Ford to my knowledge never used screw in ball joints. The ball joint I am using was specifically chosen for this type of application and can handle the weight of the vehicle in both compression and extension. It is the same ball joint used on setups similar to this in all kinds of applications.
This is genious! Do you have any blueprints of this? I was thinking of trying this myself for my 68 cougar and then miraculously stumbled upon this video. -greetings from Iceland
I don't have any drawings but I would be happy to share pix of any parts you would like pictures of. you can contact me through my website www.dazecars.com I also hove lots of other good tech there that could apply to your car.
I don't. I purchased them back in 07 I believe they are 14" coil overs with 12" springs but I will need to go measure to know for sure.@@simonwyles1624
@@craigparker349 Upper Controll Arm drop AKA Shelby drop. Shelby had nothing to do with the UCA drop other than doing it on the 65 and 66 Shelby Mustangs and they didn't even do it to all 66 cars. The suspension upgrade was the work of Klause Arning so realy we sould be calling it the "Arning drop" Anyway because of this and the fact that Shelby was legaly going afer anthing using his name late 90s early 2000s I quit calling it the Shelby drop and switched to UCA drop.
It is an AFCO 20034 and corrisponding threaded sleeve. It is designed for a Pinto/Mustang II front suspension and has the correct taper for a classic Mustang spindle. What is important is it is good in both tension and compression. Some ball joints are only good in compression making them unusable for this type of suspension.
I don't have anything specific but am willing to help. The coil overs are QA1 300# springs and then all the brackets were custom made to put it all together. Contact me through my website and I will do what I can to help you and can give any specific measurement or pix you request.@@CryptoBoy-te1ic
@@dazecars I see where you got your inspiration from. I sent you an email, if you could please share some of your specs it would be greatly appreciated
Superbly explained. I'm now inspired with a respectful level of confidence to do something similar to convert my 68 AMX 'trunnion' design to coil-overs 👍👍😎👍👍(don't worry, I understand suspension design is definitely not trivial 😂).
Best of luck! Let me know if I can be of any help or if you have any further questions.
Dear Sir , some nice work there , easy adjustability , less binding in the system , etc . But unfortunately there is a major flaw in the design ,especially in a heavier vehicle model . As you stated the upper plate / coil over mount , takes the full force of the vehicle load so then ,does that load be exerted upon the lower outer ball joint in EXTENSION , causing the joint to seperate , will actually rip the ball completely from the socket especially in a sudden shock moment eg a sharp pavement change , pot hole etc. Ford made this same mistake from 1988 Falcon ( Australia ) mounting the OEM style coil over at the lower arm . Ideally you should use a ball joint which has the effective load against it reversed, ie compressing the joint rather than extending it . There's a few ways this can be achieved.
Thank you for sharing your concerns but that flaw does not exist in my setup. I am not using a stock ford ball joint. Ford to my knowledge never used screw in ball joints. The ball joint I am using was specifically chosen for this type of application and can handle the weight of the vehicle in both compression and extension. It is the same ball joint used on setups similar to this in all kinds of applications.
This is genious! Do you have any blueprints of this? I was thinking of trying this myself for my 68 cougar and then miraculously stumbled upon this video.
-greetings from Iceland
I don't have any drawings but I would be happy to share pix of any parts you would like pictures of. you can contact me through my website www.dazecars.com I also hove lots of other good tech there that could apply to your car.
@@dazecars Thanks, I'll check it out!
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Just come across this cool vid, what coils are you using?
They are single valve QA1 coil overs with 300# springs
@@dazecars superb thanks, don’t suppose you have a part No?
I don't. I purchased them back in 07 I believe they are 14" coil overs with 12" springs but I will need to go measure to know for sure.@@simonwyles1624
@@dazecars no worries thanks for the info, I can try to find an equivalent over here in the uk 👍🏻
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Did you carry out a shelby drop on this before doing this setup? Do you have a video of how the mustang handles now?
I did the UCA drop. As to a test drive, the car is still in pieces.
@@dazecars Whats the UCA drop?
@@craigparker349 Upper Controll Arm drop AKA Shelby drop. Shelby had nothing to do with the UCA drop other than doing it on the 65 and 66 Shelby Mustangs and they didn't even do it to all 66 cars. The suspension upgrade was the work of Klause Arning so realy we sould be calling it the "Arning drop" Anyway because of this and the fact that Shelby was legaly going afer anthing using his name late 90s early 2000s I quit calling it the Shelby drop and switched to UCA drop.
What ball joints are you using? Do you have size specs and or a part number?
It is an AFCO 20034 and corrisponding threaded sleeve. It is designed for a Pinto/Mustang II front suspension and has the correct taper for a classic Mustang spindle. What is important is it is good in both tension and compression. Some ball joints are only good in compression making them unusable for this type of suspension.
I didnt see any parts list on your site
I don't sell the kits so there is nothing on my website
Do you have a parts list or measurements on the parts. After my overseas rotation I want to build a fastback, thank you
I don't have anything specific but am willing to help. The coil overs are QA1 300# springs and then all the brackets were custom made to put it all together. Contact me through my website and I will do what I can to help you and can give any specific measurement or pix you request.@@CryptoBoy-te1ic
What is the upper control arm?
The are a set of Ron Moris that I was able to pick up
@@dazecars I see where you got your inspiration from. I sent you an email, if you could please share some of your specs it would be greatly appreciated
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