Glad I’m not the only one who noticed this. My guess is the telecoms haven’t actually invested much in 5G infrastructure but were happy to use it in their marketing.
Still gotta a get a new phone regardless the pixel 7/pro which is 2 months old was already on sale black friday sale. Software support is limited on older phones with android 13 now out. Pixel 7 is 3 years of os and 5 years of software updates. There is a huge difference in performance in the 2022 phones compared to 2017-2019 phones making it worth the upgrade. Apple phones are just too expensive.
@@fargoth391 Very droll. By your reckoning there would be an entire forest of 5G masts across the planet, a "fair few" vertical aerials gong up the side of thousands of high rise buildings. Now, do you suppose there's enough copper or glass to build this network? Your homework for tonight is to Google up the impossibility of your view. And write out, by hand, one thousand lines, "Fact checking prior to posting is essential".
It's not just 5G guys. There are two kinds of 5G: sub6 and mmWave. The first one works on almost the same spectrum as 4G and provides only marginally faster speeds, the second one is much higher but it's at such an high frequency that even a window will block the signal. This means that the majority of networks are deploying sub6 as opposed to mmWave and as such you'll get speeds close to 4G (but way better ping). P.s when you buy a phone that says "5G compliant", make sure it's both sub6 and mmWave compliant in the specs, 'cause the big fat 5G label doesn't make it mandatory to support both
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This reminds me of a conversation I had with an engineer friend of mine about a year ago. He mentioned that 5G is awsome, if you are close to one of the towers. Otherwise it’s the worse than 4G. I thought he was exaggerating, but it looks like he was right. Glad I haven’t upgraded yet. My condolences to those who did.
I don’t think condolences are in order, it’s really not much of a problem. iPhones and most androids can switch it off and use 4G if you like, but it typically works well
@@natebell5026 T-Mobile's 5G is spotty in some areas near me and my Android just switches to 5G pretty unnoticeably when LTE seems faster 7:22 PM 12/6/2022
I live in the U.S. Recently my brother was ill and was trying to call my sister, who lives a few miles away, for help. He made fifteen calls, and my sister's phone never rang. The company's story was that the signal "was bouncing off the wrong tower." How's that for service.? This was in a city of several million people.
Well data calls aren't done over 5G. That is VoLTE which is a 4G technology. Also, assuming it wasn't a data call then it would have been done over GSM (2G).
1) Sell overpriced 5G phones that don't work. 2) Wait five years to build 5G networks promised five years AGO. 3) Sell MORE overpriced 5G phones once the old phones break. $$$ profit! $$$
It depends completely on which network you are on, if you are on Three UK, then the 5G capacity and bandwidth are significantly better than 4G (particularly if you are using Three"s 4G network). Also bear in mind that the "5G hype" is focused on Standalone mm-wave 5G; the UK is currently only using non-standalone, non-mm-wave 5G; with the former you potentially get multi gigabit speeds, you don't with the latter.
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UK still has only non-standalone 5g network? Here in India atleast 1 company is providing standalone mmWave 5g in some places and mid band in most other places which is much faster than the low band 5g that US and some other European countries are using. I am easily getting 600 Mbps at home.
3G is still fast enough (and like you say often faster than 4G or 5G) for what we need. In London I'm often frustrated that I can't even connect to a journey planning app as the service is so congested. 3G had the benefit of longer range and penetration. in order to work effectively, for 5G, you need a transmitter on practically every street corner. This is never going to happen. I really don't know why mobile network providers thought 5G could ever work.
Reminds me of when 4G launched here in Australia. I was working in tech support for one of the major telcos and lost count of the number of customers who had patchy 4G coverage who had to use 3G+ (HSPA) to get decent internet speeds. We weren't supposed to advise them that though as "it could damage our branding" but we all chose to ignore that.
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@@edselgreaves6503 all of the above. notice it the most when streaming games. But it's sporadic. Sometimes its faster than WiFi. Really depends. But now my phone switches between 4 and 5g when appropriate so I'm noticing it much less nowadays.
What isn't made clear either is the fact that 4G or 5G doesn't natively carry calls or texts, only E/2G or H/3G does it. Instead, you have to enable Voice over LTE which a lot of providers don't have great support for over here. For example, you may have to call your mobile provider to get it set up.
I'm so thankful that Three provided 5G masts to our area of countryside villages. We've all gone from a maximum of 14mbps on copper to up to 700mbps on mobile data. It is cheaper too per month! More providers supplying services will increase competition and drive down prices further.
Yhea I noticed that too, I'm confused on why their are also such bleak placements where they connect to only a small percentage of people at most. And yet, they have difficulty having it reach the indoors smh
3 years ago US blocked Huawei being used in UK and Europe over national geopolitical concerns. Huawei infrastructure are way ahead of stuff anyone else is using. Maybe that was where the initial hype came from
their 5G has a proprietary set of signalling tech, its very different but if you dont have it to compare theres no reasons to assume its much better. Perhaps we should see/investigate how 5G it works for them in their country?
It doesn’t make much of a differences. 5G is just a set standard and with the wavelength it uses especially mmWave, it’s not like ones broadcasted by Huawei’s hardware is going to penetrate a concrete wall
Overhyped is the right word there, and tech people have known this before 5G was announced to the world with a whole ton of extremely unrealistic advertisement made by mobile telecoms. It's all down to very basic physics principles, particularly the electromagnetic spectrum. In short, 5G operates somewhere between 4G and Wi-fi. 4G has a long reach, can go through walls, but is limited in speed. Wi-fi can go very fast, but you'll often lose signal as soon as there is a wall between you and the access point, or you go too far away. 5G can go faster, but it actually operates in a spectrum going from speeds that are marginally better than 4G, up to several times faster. What the overhyped market campaign was showing was the optimal best case scenario with mmWave tech that allows for speeds several times that of 4G... but in practice, in order for you to get that you'll have to be no more than a block line of sight away from a 5G antenna, I'm being generous. If anything gets in the way, or you are over that, you'll either get your speed stepped down or completely lose it depending on antenna configuration. Heck, you could lose signal by just turning away. Implementation of proper 5G coverage that gets anywhere near 4G coverage will take multiple times more than 4G did, by which I mean potentially decades, and it will also reach much less of what 4G did, because of this range and penetration limitation. You know how you lose 4G signal when you get into an elevator? For fast 5G speeds this will happen when you get inside... anything that doesn't have a 5G antenna in it. A single tall 4G antenna could cover an entire neighborhood and more with ease, now imagine how many more 5G antennas you'd need if you want the fastest speed given that it can't reach you if you are a block away in clear line of sight. No matter how much you got hammered by misleading ads, the truth of it is that 5G is at most a complementary tech to 4G. It'll likely never replace it fully, and coverage will mostly be limited to large city centers with plenty of utility pole space to install 5G antennas at. Indoors, it'll only really become a thing if people start using it to replace regular Internet connectivity such as fiber, cable and ADSL, and this is likely not happening due to different pricing schemes and it being a divided market shared between huge oligopolies. One way or another, all the artificial limitations and anti-consumer measures applies, so you end up not being able to rely on a single solution. There will be exceptions of course, but they'll remain mostly that - exceptional cases. Well, that's for western markets I guess... in countries without huge telecom monopolies, this could go better. Without the marketing lies, 5G can be a good thing. It's just not really replacing 4G overtime like 4G/LTE did with 3G.
You can deploy the network but you need the upgraded servers to back it all up. If you suddenly increase everyone's speeds on an already heavily overloaded network your only going to see problems. And just beavause your phone shows 5g doesnt mean thats your speed. You need to check the hops and the related timings (hops between the linked computers that make a path for you in a network), maybe use windows cmd (stat net, etc) while using your phone as a hotspot if theres no app available.
Reminds me of electric cars. The marketers did a great job, but actually implementing the infrastructure sucked. Electric car infrastructure is barely getting better now, but eventually, it will get better. I think the issue with adopting new technology is not everywhere will be updated at once, so it's best to just wait until the tech is actually useable. Rolling out new tech and being the first user is always fraught with challenges and issues, so they just need to wait until it becomes more reliable and cheaper to use. It's like when refrigerators were first introduced. They probably were extremely expensive and failed a lot of the time, until new tech adapted and updated them with each new iteration. My advice, don't spend thousands for a new 5g phone, wait till it actually improves
Newer internet technologies have always shown me more problems than usual. The telecom insustry doesn't seem to have the same standards when it comes to releasing a product to the public, as say the software industry, where rigorous QA testing during development is the norm, so that the customer has a high quality product. Telecom should be more honest and fair to consumers in my opinion.
Bringing up software industry is a bad example, most software products (new os releases, games or you name it) are big steaming pile of cr@ps on release date, that barely work as designed.
Ah, the ever present tension between innovation and existing standards. I don’t disagree with you about the marketing but as far as tech goes this is still a baby. Wifi started rolling out in the mid 1990s if I remember right but it was a joke until almost a decade later.
Have held off moving away from well priced 4G SIM only contract and moving to new 5G plan in the UK on EE currently plan allows me alot more options. Get good speed and see need to move .
It's the same thing here in America 5G service is crappy at best I live in Pennsylvania Philadelphia is really the only city that has good 5G coverage once you leave Philadelphia it's pretty much not existent or randomly Cuts in and out. Also it kills your battery because it is constantly trying to look for a 5G Tower that does not exist.
Puerto rico here, we had fake 4g for years and now they somehow enabled 5g without replacing any towers, good speeds so far and i used to have that battery drain with the 2g network. House between two towers is a nightmare. If i enable my health app in the house it clocks up tens of miles because google thinks im running around the block outside, not walking between my kitchen and living room 😂 they could have done so much with all this tech and its just pants. Commercials is all its about. Kinda like 2nd life became 1st life 🤦
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Here in Puerto rico 5g is working and they didnt seem to change anything on the towers. What did happen was t-mobile monopolizing the island but that also meant we bypassed that crappy overloaded server in miami which handled everything up until now.
S Korea is, allegedly, doing reasonably well with 5G and is experimenting with 6G, so they claim. Doubtless a bit of a pissing contest between the 5G service providers but we'll get there, eventually.
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5G is easily blocked by walls and buildings. So the faster speed requires line-of-sights. The 'promised' speed above 4G is not needed by most everyone (you're not MMOG on your phone or doing large group video chats, or downloading Gigabyte files to your phone). So the speed and reliability of 4G is actually more important. 5G is just a Tech Answer looking to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
This happens only in Europe and USA. Not in Asia because Asia is leading in 5G and Telecom tech. While we were using Video calls since early 2000s, US just found out about it when iphone came out almost a decade later with Facetime. We also had mpbile wallets a decade ahead of Google Wallet and Apple Pay
I recently bought a 5G phone and it worked fine for about a day then I couldn't send text. I could receive it but could not send it. Spent an hour or so with tech but finally gave up and went back to my old 4G phone. Boston Massachusetts, USA. I have little hope that 5G is ever going to be a good design or choice. More hardware means more problems.
The major problem is the 5G doesn't even have a full 2 percent of 4Gs range. That means it's only viable in cities where it makes sense financially to have that many transmitters
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On most androids you can disable the 5g out right. Also this SMS thing sounds more like a carrier configuration error, most like nothing to do with 5G.
The faster the frequency, the shorter the range. Eventually there will be transmitters every twenty feet. But thats going to take loads of negotiations with private property owners.
Or for google to run their shared network thing. You can sign up for savings but you share your connection. Makes me wonder though. Back in the 90's a group set up something similar and ran it via a few towers around the city, it was free high speed (for the time) internet, it covered half the city with free internet access. Council soon shut it down on the grounds of red tape. Then 5years later they enabled that mercury internet system where you buy access via phonecards. Complete scam. Let people share their connections and block advertisers and we can all enjoy high speeds. Seen it happen. When you pay for upgraded speeds now your just paying for more advertising to reach you. With an uncluttered 2g speed connection you can stream hd video and download medium (phone sized) files fairly quickly....honestly what else do you need.
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Actually, the next step would be using visible light and light bulbs as WiFi routers, because it's higher frequency than the microwaves, so it works much better. Of course, the main limitation is that it doesn't work in the dark, so you always need the light switched on to make it work. And yeah, you need one in every room because obviously light doesn't go through walls
I’m in Eastbourne and over the past year I’ve gone from having spots of 5G to large areas… But it’s not good, when my phone switches to the mast at the crumbles (harbour area) it’s like having no data at all! Web pages, videos and music streaming almost stop! Many times I’ve just given up on whatever I’m doing because it just doesn’t load, but I have no choice when I switch to 5G.
5g is pointless. Even if it worked as intended nobody needs those kind of speeds on a phone..Where I’m at I get around 250mbps on 4G-LTE so you’d be hard pressed to need anything faster than what’s already overkill. People don’t need faster speeds they need better signal and reliability of the network. The network owners are completely out of touch
The government's decision for all 4 of the Operators to have to rip out Huawei infrastructure has hit them with big costs too. This has taken time and money on replacing perfectly good hardware. So that's impacted the 5G-NR rollout too
It does t have the range, it’s fine if you’re in the city near a transmitter, but out in the sticks it’s worse than 4G and 3G most the time.. Diminishing returns more bandwidth but far inferior range.. Needs far more transmitters rather than is currently available..
5G is great if you're sitting underneath a 5G but most of the time speeds such as 5G can't go through walls well. The signal (and therfore speeds) are terrible.
Also; who streams 4K to a phone--especially on a mobile network? MAYBE a laptop could utilize that but even then most are 1440p; I like a crisp image, but what's the point? Even if, I'd rather just download it in advance nine times out of ten and not worry about a connection at all (or using up data)
@@st20332 I love having extremely high DPI. I'm a sucker for clarity and intend to make use of my good eyesight. However; really? 4K on your phone? Get a smaller phone with a 1080p display. Even then, would it kill you to download them in advance? Saves battery too plus no worry of network.
This is genuinely down to uncontrolled mass migration to the UK. Millions of extra people in the country all using mobile phones. The population increases year on year and the network isn't being upgraded fast enough.
@@epender Well, then you don't know much about accents. English has been spoken on the island for more than 1500 years with distinct regional variety in relatively close proximity geographically. In sharp contrast is the Pacific Northwest, where everyone sounds the same because the regionally distinct accents have not had any time to develop.
I'm finding that with video downloads in Sydney with Vodafone. On 5G, with my latest 5G phone, 4G is either the same or faster than 5G. On top of that, when in 5G mode, my phone heats up to the extreme, and my 500 ma battery gets chewed. I am not that impressed. Web pages may spring up a tad quicker, but that's all. I personally think the issue is that the phone has to connect to multiple towers on 5g, causing way more power usage from my device and making it heat up and because perhaps it has too constantly be connected to multiple towers, which inhibits the signal and thus the download speed.
I’m with EE and since moving to 5G I have actually had worse connection. On 5G, sometimes I will not get any service, and will have to restart the connection to get data again. Disappointing!
I'm no expert but i think it's all controlled by the cellular mast your handset connects to. They may have QoS (Quality of service) applied to them allowing them to switch which band on the frequency spectrum your phone connects to, thus throttling the speed. I have a 4G modem and on power up it connects band 1 which i think is the highest speed but then the mast recognises that it's not a phone connected then lowers me down to a slower band. Some operators guarantee higher speeds but they are expensive. With the lesser expensive sim only contracts, you are not priority and so you will rarely be on band 1.
It makes sense to go for a 5g phone regardless because it makes sense to get a new phone. A new pixel 7 on blackfriday sale went for 500 pounds. That phone released last month is amazing and comes with 3 years of OS and 5 years of software updates. If you buy an older phone you wont get updates which is huge. My old pixel 3a from late 2019 is no longer supported at all. Android 13 is amazing btw.
@@josh77577 lol 😂. My last phone cost 180.00. all i do is text. Nothing fancy 128 gb additional storage. Real simple. Keep that Google 🥒 in ya 😦. Take care
I think there's no difference between 4G and 5G in the UK.. The speed that networks have been able to 'roll out' 5G is suspicious to me.. Swear the jump to 4G took a lot longer.. All just a big marketing scheme
Of course different networks will offer different speeds depending on reception and comparability. The person who thought up this segment must know nothing about telecommunication. Surely you should've mentioned higher frequencies (which allow more bandwidth) have less coverage - which requires more cell towers to provide the national coverage
I wonder how much of this had to do with UK being forced by US to get rid of all Huawei components even after they had already completed a lot of the installations. All this was after British security experts said the risks were manageable: "If your package is sealed in a strong enough container then it doesn't matter if the carrier is dodgy", UK telecom businesses were forced to shell out millions to replace the equipment. I honestly don't think people should blame the network providers. I mean it is a massive operation that was forced upon them. :D The end result: Cost will be passed on to the customers while quality of service will diminish.
If there is anything that I regret, it must be coming to the UK to study abroad, because I am used to China's national coverage signal, in contrast, the signal of the UK is ten times worse than that of China, and with the weather, the signal disappears in stages. It can be seen from this that the UK is the poorest developed country in the world, so if I could do it over again, I would not go to the UK to study.
2:55 and they all insist on rolling out mmwave which is the problem, 30-60GHz should not be used, the stand 600MHz-3.5GHz is enough, the 30-60GHz mmWave should be banned, ofcom recently approved mmWave this year and the 4 networks soon to be 3 are about to start buying spectrum, so it'll be coming to the UK in a few years time when they build the mmWave transmitters around the country -.-
Yep. I have it from 2 years, and past 1 year it doesnt work and I had to make my phone working constantly on 4g :/ and I paid 1500£ for this phone. Just beautiful! :/
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed this. My guess is the telecoms haven’t actually invested much in 5G infrastructure but were happy to use it in their marketing.
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Still gotta a get a new phone regardless the pixel 7/pro which is 2 months old was already on sale black friday sale. Software support is limited on older phones with android 13 now out. Pixel 7 is 3 years of os and 5 years of software updates. There is a huge difference in performance in the 2022 phones compared to 2017-2019 phones making it worth the upgrade. Apple phones are just too expensive.
@@t1n4444 they are right
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Very droll.
By your reckoning there would be an entire forest of 5G masts across the planet, a "fair few" vertical aerials gong up the side of thousands of high rise buildings.
Now, do you suppose there's enough copper or glass to build this network?
Your homework for tonight is to Google up the impossibility of your view.
And write out, by hand, one thousand lines, "Fact checking prior to posting is essential".
It's not just 5G guys. There are two kinds of 5G: sub6 and mmWave. The first one works on almost the same spectrum as 4G and provides only marginally faster speeds, the second one is much higher but it's at such an high frequency that even a window will block the signal. This means that the majority of networks are deploying sub6 as opposed to mmWave and as such you'll get speeds close to 4G (but way better ping).
P.s when you buy a phone that says "5G compliant", make sure it's both sub6 and mmWave compliant in the specs, 'cause the big fat 5G label doesn't make it mandatory to support both
Unfortunately most people don't understand this, and in Europe 5G phones are basically all sub 6Ghz.
Thank you.
thanks for sharing the knowledge
more informative than the entire news report was lol
You took my words. People just don't get it.
People are more than happy with 4g speeds they just want a more reliable signal
No we're not. 5G is at least 10x much faster compared to 4G.
@@thinkpositive3667 But it doesn't work, isn't reliable and has limitations that us 4g users don't.
because you goverment did something on 5G.
@@michaelcraig8860 As with every technology, there are always bugs/flaws/problems at the start.
But eventually, we solved all those problems.
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It is sad to hear this given that many custmers are being charged more for the so called 5G when, in fact, they get a very poor 5G service.
crying sad
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The fact is "businesses were built mainly for profit and not to benefit consumers"
Most of the industry doesn't want to invest in 5G when they feel they won't get it all in place before 6G exists. Profit.
@@craigb8228 profits over customer service and customer satisfaction
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So nationalise our phone network
@@mccobsta The Government's Shared Rural Network is probably the closest to that we're gonna get.
If it wasn't ready, it should not have been marketed to the masses.
This reminds me of a conversation I had with an engineer friend of mine about a year ago. He mentioned that 5G is awsome, if you are close to one of the towers. Otherwise it’s the worse than 4G. I thought he was exaggerating, but it looks like he was right. Glad I haven’t upgraded yet. My condolences to those who did.
On android phones you can turn off 5G and run exclusive on 4G and lower.
I don’t think condolences are in order, it’s really not much of a problem. iPhones and most androids can switch it off and use 4G if you like, but it typically works well
@@natebell5026 T-Mobile's 5G is spotty in some areas near me and my Android just switches to 5G pretty unnoticeably when LTE seems faster
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You can still use 4G on a 5G phone. IN FACT .you can even use 3G if you wanted to. You just change the setting on the phone.
@@kiradotee Woah really 😱
I live in the U.S. Recently my brother was ill and was trying to call my sister, who lives a few miles away, for help. He made fifteen calls, and my sister's phone never rang. The company's story was that the signal "was bouncing off the wrong tower." How's that for service.? This was in a city of several million people.
Well data calls aren't done over 5G. That is VoLTE which is a 4G technology. Also, assuming it wasn't a data call then it would have been done over GSM (2G).
1) Sell overpriced 5G phones that don't work.
2) Wait five years to build 5G networks promised five years AGO.
3) Sell MORE overpriced 5G phones once the old phones break.
$$$ profit! $$$
5G without Huawei is just like 4G upgraded. If you are using 5G in China you will get more and more surprise
Funny that some networks try and charge more money for 5G plans, it’s a technology which helps the telecom provider
It depends completely on which network you are on, if you are on Three UK, then the 5G capacity and bandwidth are significantly better than 4G (particularly if you are using Three"s 4G network).
Also bear in mind that the "5G hype" is focused on Standalone mm-wave 5G; the UK is currently only using non-standalone, non-mm-wave 5G; with the former you potentially get multi gigabit speeds, you don't with the latter.
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Threes signal is trash though.
UK still has only non-standalone 5g network? Here in India atleast 1 company is providing standalone mmWave 5g in some places and mid band in most other places which is much faster than the low band 5g that US and some other European countries are using. I am easily getting 600 Mbps at home.
@@adityasingh3963Wow!
As long as my old flip phone still works for text and voice, I'll be a happy camper.
I quite often drop back to 3g when things go really slow because basically nobody uses it anymore.
Was the same with prior standards upgrades.
It saves you battery too. Only worth it for lightweight Internet usage though, such as email or VoIP.
3G is still fast enough (and like you say often faster than 4G or 5G) for what we need. In London I'm often frustrated that I can't even connect to a journey planning app as the service is so congested. 3G had the benefit of longer range and penetration. in order to work effectively, for 5G, you need a transmitter on practically every street corner. This is never going to happen. I really don't know why mobile network providers thought 5G could ever work.
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Reminds me of when 4G launched here in Australia. I was working in tech support for one of the major telcos and lost count of the number of customers who had patchy 4G coverage who had to use 3G+ (HSPA) to get decent internet speeds. We weren't supposed to advise them that though as "it could damage our branding" but we all chose to ignore that.
It's because Chinese 🇨🇳 Huawei is attempting something. Lol
Yeah same. I got the fold 3 last year and at first the 5g upgrade was amazing, but quickly ran into issues.
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What issues?
@@edselgreaves6503 saying I have full signal yet its slower than 4g sometimes.
@@braddo7270 Is that for loading pages? Or using GPS location apps?
@@edselgreaves6503 all of the above. notice it the most when streaming games. But it's sporadic. Sometimes its faster than WiFi. Really depends. But now my phone switches between 4 and 5g when appropriate so I'm noticing it much less nowadays.
What isn't made clear either is the fact that 4G or 5G doesn't natively carry calls or texts, only E/2G or H/3G does it.
Instead, you have to enable Voice over LTE which a lot of providers don't have great support for over here. For example, you may have to call your mobile provider to get it set up.
I have a 5G compatible phone, but i keep it on 4G, mainly for saving the battery. For what i use the internet, 4G is perfectly fine.
I'm so thankful that Three provided 5G masts to our area of countryside villages. We've all gone from a maximum of 14mbps on copper to up to 700mbps on mobile data. It is cheaper too per month! More providers supplying services will increase competition and drive down prices further.
Yhea I noticed that too, I'm confused on why their are also such bleak placements where they connect to only a small percentage of people at most.
And yet, they have difficulty having it reach the indoors smh
3 years ago US blocked Huawei being used in UK and Europe over national geopolitical concerns. Huawei infrastructure are way ahead of stuff anyone else is using. Maybe that was where the initial hype came from
Very likely. Also the first 5G broadband routers supplied by Three (and maybe other networks) was Huawei 5G CPE Pro.
their 5G has a proprietary set of signalling tech, its very different but if you dont have it to compare theres no reasons to assume its much better. Perhaps we should see/investigate how 5G it works for them in their country?
Verizon in the US has very fast 5G, but the others don't
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It doesn’t make much of a differences. 5G is just a set standard and with the wavelength it uses especially mmWave, it’s not like ones broadcasted by Huawei’s hardware is going to penetrate a concrete wall
Overhyped is the right word there, and tech people have known this before 5G was announced to the world with a whole ton of extremely unrealistic advertisement made by mobile telecoms.
It's all down to very basic physics principles, particularly the electromagnetic spectrum.
In short, 5G operates somewhere between 4G and Wi-fi. 4G has a long reach, can go through walls, but is limited in speed. Wi-fi can go very fast, but you'll often lose signal as soon as there is a wall between you and the access point, or you go too far away.
5G can go faster, but it actually operates in a spectrum going from speeds that are marginally better than 4G, up to several times faster. What the overhyped market campaign was showing was the optimal best case scenario with mmWave tech that allows for speeds several times that of 4G... but in practice, in order for you to get that you'll have to be no more than a block line of sight away from a 5G antenna, I'm being generous. If anything gets in the way, or you are over that, you'll either get your speed stepped down or completely lose it depending on antenna configuration. Heck, you could lose signal by just turning away.
Implementation of proper 5G coverage that gets anywhere near 4G coverage will take multiple times more than 4G did, by which I mean potentially decades, and it will also reach much less of what 4G did, because of this range and penetration limitation.
You know how you lose 4G signal when you get into an elevator? For fast 5G speeds this will happen when you get inside... anything that doesn't have a 5G antenna in it. A single tall 4G antenna could cover an entire neighborhood and more with ease, now imagine how many more 5G antennas you'd need if you want the fastest speed given that it can't reach you if you are a block away in clear line of sight.
No matter how much you got hammered by misleading ads, the truth of it is that 5G is at most a complementary tech to 4G. It'll likely never replace it fully, and coverage will mostly be limited to large city centers with plenty of utility pole space to install 5G antennas at. Indoors, it'll only really become a thing if people start using it to replace regular Internet connectivity such as fiber, cable and ADSL, and this is likely not happening due to different pricing schemes and it being a divided market shared between huge oligopolies. One way or another, all the artificial limitations and anti-consumer measures applies, so you end up not being able to rely on a single solution. There will be exceptions of course, but they'll remain mostly that - exceptional cases.
Well, that's for western markets I guess... in countries without huge telecom monopolies, this could go better. Without the marketing lies, 5G can be a good thing. It's just not really replacing 4G overtime like 4G/LTE did with 3G.
You can deploy the network but you need the upgraded servers to back it all up. If you suddenly increase everyone's speeds on an already heavily overloaded network your only going to see problems. And just beavause your phone shows 5g doesnt mean thats your speed. You need to check the hops and the related timings (hops between the linked computers that make a path for you in a network), maybe use windows cmd (stat net, etc) while using your phone as a hotspot if theres no app available.
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There’re consequences to ditch the Huawei 5G, longer deployment schedule and billions of pound to replace all existing base stations.
I went from 4G with 3 to 5G with EE and it’s a world apart. Multiple times a day, three would not load a webpage. It was infuriating.
Consume consume consume.
Angry at the world edgelord, angry at the world edgelord, angry at the world edgelord.
@@StreetsOfRage2 don't you have gas and electricity to put most of your wages into? How's the inflation going?! 🤣
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great editing on this one guys really like the transitions
Excellent report
Reminds me of electric cars. The marketers did a great job, but actually implementing the infrastructure sucked. Electric car infrastructure is barely getting better now, but eventually, it will get better. I think the issue with adopting new technology is not everywhere will be updated at once, so it's best to just wait until the tech is actually useable. Rolling out new tech and being the first user is always fraught with challenges and issues, so they just need to wait until it becomes more reliable and cheaper to use. It's like when refrigerators were first introduced. They probably were extremely expensive and failed a lot of the time, until new tech adapted and updated them with each new iteration. My advice, don't spend thousands for a new 5g phone, wait till it actually improves
Newer internet technologies have always shown me more problems than usual. The telecom insustry doesn't seem to have the same standards when it comes to releasing a product to the public, as say the software industry, where rigorous QA testing during development is the norm, so that the customer has a high quality product. Telecom should be more honest and fair to consumers in my opinion.
"as say the software industry, where rigorous QA testing during development is the norm" LOL you kidding right
Bringing up software industry is a bad example, most software products (new os releases, games or you name it) are big steaming pile of cr@ps on release date, that barely work as designed.
Ah, the ever present tension between innovation and existing standards. I don’t disagree with you about the marketing but as far as tech goes this is still a baby. Wifi started rolling out in the mid 1990s if I remember right but it was a joke until almost a decade later.
@@kosztaz87 what we consider barely working as designed is still much higher than what telecom is doing, and that was exactly my point.
All because the UK has banned Huawei.
Its like that here in Caerphilly.
There is a 7G summit ongoing at the minute in the UK to address these issues ...
Have held off moving away from well priced 4G SIM only contract and moving to new 5G plan in the UK on EE currently plan allows me alot more options. Get good speed and see need to move .
This is why 4G is still the best and CHEAPER 😤👍
Cheaper? How so? I am Prepay with no obligations to renew my plan monthly and I can roam around 2G-5G without paying an extra dime
It's the same thing here in America 5G service is crappy at best I live in Pennsylvania Philadelphia is really the only city that has good 5G coverage once you leave Philadelphia it's pretty much not existent or randomly Cuts in and out. Also it kills your battery because it is constantly trying to look for a 5G Tower that does not exist.
Puerto rico here, we had fake 4g for years and now they somehow enabled 5g without replacing any towers, good speeds so far and i used to have that battery drain with the 2g network. House between two towers is a nightmare. If i enable my health app in the house it clocks up tens of miles because google thinks im running around the block outside, not walking between my kitchen and living room 😂 they could have done so much with all this tech and its just pants. Commercials is all its about. Kinda like 2nd life became 1st life 🤦
My galaxy s9 4g is much faster than s21 5g! Here in UK we get charged extra for using 5g internet!
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@@Mopar_logic Note 9 runs ok too. I'm really not that bothered by a slight increase in speed of a page loading. 4g is fast enough.
Here in the USA the problems seems to be the same as the UK.
Here in Puerto rico 5g is working and they didnt seem to change anything on the towers. What did happen was t-mobile monopolizing the island but that also meant we bypassed that crappy overloaded server in miami which handled everything up until now.
Romania as well. 4g usually works better than the "blazing fast" 5g
S Korea is, allegedly, doing reasonably well with 5G and is experimenting with 6G, so they claim.
Doubtless a bit of a pissing contest between the 5G service providers but we'll get there, eventually.
It's fine in the UK unless you live in some s hole.
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5G works well in the lab. How many of us live IN a lab? I don't need 5G when I can stream 4K on my 4G.
On Android phones you can select which bands you want to be active. If 5G isn't working out for you just disable it in your connection settings
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5G is easily blocked by walls and buildings. So the faster speed requires line-of-sights. The 'promised' speed above 4G is not needed by most everyone (you're not MMOG on your phone or doing large group video chats, or downloading Gigabyte files to your phone). So the speed and reliability of 4G is actually more important. 5G is just a Tech Answer looking to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
*engineeritis,* n. Solipsistic technology. Anything built for the builder, or for the sake of building, not for the user. Example: Linux.
This happens only in Europe and USA. Not in Asia because Asia is leading in 5G and Telecom tech. While we were using Video calls since early 2000s, US just found out about it when iphone came out almost a decade later with Facetime. We also had mpbile wallets a decade ahead of Google Wallet and Apple Pay
Hello which devices did asians use before the iPhone to make video calls with people ?
BS
@@edgzta exactly lol
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@@watsappenin2865 lol only in china i'm in asia by the way
Ever been had?
I recently bought a 5G phone and it worked fine for about a day then I couldn't send text.
I could receive it but could not send it. Spent an hour or so with tech but finally gave up and went back to my old 4G phone.
Boston Massachusetts, USA. I have little hope that 5G is ever going to be a good design or choice. More hardware means more problems.
The major problem is the 5G doesn't even have a full 2 percent of 4Gs range. That means it's only viable in cities where it makes sense financially to have that many transmitters
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On most androids you can disable the 5g out right.
Also this SMS thing sounds more like a carrier configuration error, most like nothing to do with 5G.
The faster the frequency, the shorter the range. Eventually there will be transmitters every twenty feet. But thats going to take loads of negotiations with private property owners.
Or for google to run their shared network thing. You can sign up for savings but you share your connection.
Makes me wonder though. Back in the 90's a group set up something similar and ran it via a few towers around the city, it was free high speed (for the time) internet, it covered half the city with free internet access.
Council soon shut it down on the grounds of red tape.
Then 5years later they enabled that mercury internet system where you buy access via phonecards. Complete scam.
Let people share their connections and block advertisers and we can all enjoy high speeds. Seen it happen.
When you pay for upgraded speeds now your just paying for more advertising to reach you. With an uncluttered 2g speed connection you can stream hd video and download medium (phone sized) files fairly quickly....honestly what else do you need.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not quite as simple as that.
Plenty info online if arsed.
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Actually, the next step would be using visible light and light bulbs as WiFi routers, because it's higher frequency than the microwaves, so it works much better.
Of course, the main limitation is that it doesn't work in the dark, so you always need the light switched on to make it work. And yeah, you need one in every room because obviously light doesn't go through walls
I’m in Eastbourne and over the past year I’ve gone from having spots of 5G to large areas… But it’s not good, when my phone switches to the mast at the crumbles (harbour area) it’s like having no data at all! Web pages, videos and music streaming almost stop! Many times I’ve just given up on whatever I’m doing because it just doesn’t load, but I have no choice when I switch to 5G.
You can just change the setting on your phone to force 4G or 3G.
Sainsburys Leicester can be a bad connection for 4g and 5g at Fose Park
I'm supposedly in a 5g hotspot, got a Samsung galaxy fold 4 on EE and I've never had a 5g signal anywhere in almost 5 months.
in other words, much lying
Have you been outside?
5g is pointless. Even if it worked as intended nobody needs those kind of speeds on a phone..Where I’m at I get around 250mbps on 4G-LTE so you’d be hard pressed to need anything faster than what’s already overkill. People don’t need faster speeds they need better signal and reliability of the network. The network owners are completely out of touch
The government's decision for all 4 of the Operators to have to rip out Huawei infrastructure has hit them with big costs too. This has taken time and money on replacing perfectly good hardware. So that's impacted the 5G-NR rollout too
It certainly has.
And 4G LTE is now at the 3G speeds coincidentally
It's frequency all wrong
I live in the north of Scotland and it is hard to get any signal even in town.
I absolutely love the Scottish accent it reminds me from Shrek🥹🥹
He had to mention covid and 5g in the same sentence didn't he! Brace yourselves 😆
Brace for what?
@@marioluigi9599 I was expecting a load of people saying 5g caused covid etc, it's a fairly common conspiracy theory lol
@@Ulnvtcydr ohhh... that's old. They're over it
the 'deploying' of 5g sounds so military like.
The word "deploy(ing)" is used a lot in the IT and telecoms industry.
It does t have the range, it’s fine if you’re in the city near a transmitter, but out in the sticks it’s worse than 4G and 3G most the time.. Diminishing returns more bandwidth but far inferior range.. Needs far more transmitters rather than is currently available..
😂😂If you go to China you will find that 5G is really great because they are using the superior technology of Huawei.
what is that screen banner thing showing supposed speed in 1:56 dear BBC are you serious?
Mate 4g is just as bad I'm back on 3g as that actually works
This is why the uk government wanted Huawei… A bit late to regret tho
I’ve got the iPhone 14 pro max and not once had a 5g connection yet anywhere I’ve been.
I live in a village near Gatwick airport and we don't have any phone reception 🤷🏻🙄
Lately my 5G with ATT is very slow or doesn’t work at all. USA
5G is great if you're sitting underneath a 5G but most of the time speeds such as 5G can't go through walls well. The signal (and therfore speeds) are terrible.
I live in London and never get a 5g signal.
i Think the issue is rollout of infrastructure to support 5G
Just be patient he says, I wish the networks were patient with increasing the cost.
The difference is the price. That's all.
The difference between 5G & 4G is unnoticeable.
Bearing in mind as only one example 25G/b is required for 4K HD steaming everything else is overhead.
Also; who streams 4K to a phone--especially on a mobile network? MAYBE a laptop could utilize that but even then most are 1440p; I like a crisp image, but what's the point? Even if, I'd rather just download it in advance nine times out of ten and not worry about a connection at all (or using up data)
@@planefan082DPI. That's where the difference is.
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@@st20332 I love having extremely high DPI. I'm a sucker for clarity and intend to make use of my good eyesight. However; really? 4K on your phone? Get a smaller phone with a 1080p display. Even then, would it kill you to download them in advance? Saves battery too plus no worry of network.
the editor of this video was having fun
I've noticed this too. Does anyone have any problems today?
This is genuinely down to uncontrolled mass migration to the UK. Millions of extra people in the country all using mobile phones. The population increases year on year and the network isn't being upgraded fast enough.
UK Infrastructure is 10 years behind the device in your hand , tech is fine but we dont use it
I just don't want to spend the extra $. Plus I'm not doing much online to justify paying more
The accents in the UK are impressive.
Impressive? Everywhere has different accents!
@@epender Well, then you don't know much about accents. English has been spoken on the island for more than 1500 years with distinct regional variety in relatively close proximity geographically. In sharp contrast is the Pacific Northwest, where everyone sounds the same because the regionally distinct accents have not had any time to develop.
I'm finding that with video downloads in Sydney with Vodafone. On 5G, with my latest 5G phone, 4G is either the same or faster than 5G. On top of that, when in 5G mode, my phone heats up to the extreme, and my 500 ma battery gets chewed. I am not that impressed. Web pages may spring up a tad quicker, but that's all. I personally think the issue is that the phone has to connect to multiple towers on 5g, causing way more power usage from my device and making it heat up and because perhaps it has too constantly be connected to multiple towers, which inhibits the signal and thus the download speed.
a year later and nothings changed
I’m with EE and since moving to 5G I have actually had worse connection. On 5G, sometimes I will not get any service, and will have to restart the connection to get data again. Disappointing!
Good example is Techno Camon latest phone network connection sucks
They canceled Huawei’s contract. Turns out the competitors are incompetent bunch.
3 years
I'm no expert but i think it's all controlled by the cellular mast your handset connects to. They may have QoS (Quality of service) applied to them allowing them to switch which band on the frequency spectrum your phone connects to, thus throttling the speed. I have a 4G modem and on power up it connects band 1 which i think is the highest speed but then the mast recognises that it's not a phone connected then lowers me down to a slower band. Some operators guarantee higher speeds but they are expensive. With the lesser expensive sim only contracts, you are not priority and so you will rarely be on band 1.
Diligence
I'm just happy to have a phone and camera in one. Of course other features are a great bonus....🤷♂️♥️
Don't buy crApple products. It's that simple.
5g isnt only on apple bro
@@taneeshajackson1817 I'm aware.
It makes sense to go for a 5g phone regardless because it makes sense to get a new phone. A new pixel 7 on blackfriday sale went for 500 pounds. That phone released last month is amazing and comes with 3 years of OS and 5 years of software updates. If you buy an older phone you wont get updates which is huge. My old pixel 3a from late 2019 is no longer supported at all. Android 13 is amazing btw.
Pixel is crap. No thanks. LoL 😂. You're just advertising for that crap phone
@@Shaolin91z okay waste ur money spending 500++ more on a samsung or apple flagship lol.
@@josh77577 lol 😂. My last phone cost 180.00. all i do is text. Nothing fancy 128 gb additional storage. Real simple. Keep that Google 🥒 in ya 😦. Take care
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it is a poorly built infrastructure which was used as a marketing scam to sell new phones like trying to sell 8k tvs when there is no 8k content
I think there's no difference between 4G and 5G in the UK.. The speed that networks have been able to 'roll out' 5G is suspicious to me.. Swear the jump to 4G took a lot longer..
All just a big marketing scheme
Of course different networks will offer different speeds depending on reception and comparability. The person who thought up this segment must know nothing about telecommunication. Surely you should've mentioned higher frequencies (which allow more bandwidth) have less coverage - which requires more cell towers to provide the national coverage
its like Bell Canada charging you for fiber internet when you only get 10mbps download...
I disabled 5g on my s21 ultra, it kills battery and speeds aren't any better than 4g+
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I wonder how much of this had to do with UK being forced by US to get rid of all Huawei components even after they had already completed a lot of the installations. All this was after British security experts said the risks were manageable: "If your package is sealed in a strong enough container then it doesn't matter if the carrier is dodgy", UK telecom businesses were forced to shell out millions to replace the equipment.
I honestly don't think people should blame the network providers. I mean it is a massive operation that was forced upon them. :D
The end result: Cost will be passed on to the customers while quality of service will diminish.
I still use 4G since 2016 until now and I love it
What was the point in the speed test if they were on different phones and different networks? Pointless...
If there is anything that I regret, it must be coming to the UK to study abroad, because I am used to China's national coverage signal, in contrast, the signal of the UK is ten times worse than that of China, and with the weather, the signal disappears in stages. It can be seen from this that the UK is the poorest developed country in the world, so if I could do it over again, I would not go to the UK to study.
the 5 g is just more work and not easy to work.
My experience of 5G when I get it is poor. So unreliable and not noticebly fast. 4G is perfectly fine thank you.
maybe its not what was intended?
2:55 and they all insist on rolling out mmwave which is the problem, 30-60GHz should not be used, the stand 600MHz-3.5GHz is enough, the 30-60GHz mmWave should be banned, ofcom recently approved mmWave this year and the 4 networks soon to be 3 are about to start buying spectrum, so it'll be coming to the UK in a few years time when they build the mmWave transmitters around the country -.-
4G and 5G are completely different in NY
Yep. I have it from 2 years, and past 1 year it doesnt work and I had to make my phone working constantly on 4g :/ and I paid 1500£ for this phone. Just beautiful! :/
why? lol