@@sallyprzybil2404 A medevac jet? Yeah that makes a lot of sense? Maybe someone was pissed off that they were going around trying to save people's lives. Not very likely. More likely a maintenance issue or problem with the oxygen tanks.
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I think it was an accident. Something catastrophic happened so fast there was no time to act. 8 hope the investigation doesn't take to long. So the families can get some answers and closure. May the victims now rest in heaven's eternal peace ❤
If the pilots screwed up we want to know. If it was the owner of the aircraft negligence due to poor maintenance or checks we want to know that as well. You can't call everything an accident just because you don't know.
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I see the youtube "experts" are out in heavy number. Please explain, why this "missile" was accompanied with jet engine noise. Why this "missle" was moving much slower than the speed of an actual missile (video shows it)? Why would this "missile" have lights on it (seen in video)? Why the explosion was followed by the traditional black cloud of smoke which is the result of jet engine fuel burning? Why video shows debris from aircraft?
NOT claiming it was a missile BUT cruise missiles have turbine engines - sound - and run on jet fuel. J.S. However cruise missiles are about 18-24" in diameter while the 55 is about 7' in diameter -addressing the debris. Added - we owned a L55 and the sound from that crash was an aircraft - not a cruise missile. When the aircraft struck the ground - there was a big red / yellow flame of slow burning jet fuel. When a cruise missile hits the explosive blast / flash is white and very high velocity. Almost like a camera flash AND the shock wave breaks windows for miles. My guess at this point is the crew either got disoriented or had an instrument malfunction ( IFR ) , rolled over in the dark / rain / fog and never recovered.
Slight turn to the right. Slight turn to the left. It sounds like the mechanisms were jammed and not responding properly to commands that caused it to fishtail and plunge with the engines at full power. The plane was supposed to make a right turn, which failed. The pilot then attempted to turn left in order to determine if the control in this direction worked. The plane reacted like a stuck mechanism sudden sprang into action. Grease on gears is supposed to be washed off before new grease is applied. If this is not done, but grease is merely added, over time grease becomes sticky or waxlike resulting in a delayed response. A gear remains stuck for a moment then breaks loose. I am familiar with this concept from operating a printing press where timing is critical. There is also an instance in which a person pressed the trigger on a gun, nothing happened, so he assumed that it was not loaded, when a minute later it went off. There was also an instance in which the elevator gear in the tail of a plane was stuck.
@@xcalibertrekker6693 Yes, it came down with the engines at full power making it appear to be a missile. The plane seems to have fishtailed and plunged. I used the wrong term. I believe stall refers to when engine power is insufficient to keep the plane moving forward and it drops.
For a full investigation, officials need to physically retrace the steps of the plane from its point of departure. Did some major piece of the plane fall off immediately after takeoff? A major piece of the puzzle may be lying in an area no one has been to.
Accident or whatever, that thing was at full power. Explanation for that will be interesting . I’m just speculating that the maintenance records might also be concerning.
It initially looked like the aircraft was on fire, but in fog the lights created the appearance of flames. The way the aircraft went into the ground - it's unlikely the CVR is intact. There were no coms beyond the pilot acknowledging departure information. I'm guessing the crew lost control somehow ( several ways ) rolled the aircraft over in the dark / rain / fog and couldn't recover.
I really thought it was on fire too but have seen video with three lights (wingtips and center) in a straight line. Definitely no fire. Hard to imagine spatial disorientation literally within 30-45 seconds after takeoff ... I wonder how the hell it happened.
@@charaps2608 Several year ago there was a CRJ flying at altitude. The pilot PFD started indicating a climb. The pilot responded by pushing the nose down without cross checking the co pilot PFD or altimeter or the stand-by HSI. He almost lost it, but had enough altitude to recover. In this case whatever happened - there wasn't enough altitude to recover.
Not really. Small plane crashes happen all the time. They don't take a pause when an airliner crashes. They are independent, unless involved in an airliner crash.
I get the sentiment with two fatal accidents so close together and so publicized but speaking statistically worldwide it would barely qualify as an anomaly. The DC accident has been waiting to happen for decades because you probably shouldn't fly military VIP helicopters in overlapping routes with a busy airports restricted airspace and I'm guessing we will hear the other one was catastrophic failure due to improper maintenance. Private Mexican companies like the one that crashed have a bad track record with such things. Just a thought.
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Well with the bigger parts of this vaporized airplane fitting into a cigar box. Those folks at the NTSB have done a great job of piecing this together. How do they know this was an accident? If they know the cause why are they not telling the public? You heard the tower conversation with the plane. No problems or emergency declared and then boom. How do they know? And what do they know?
Thanks for stating the obvious Mrs. Captain Obvious. Edit...Did she say they are looking for the "cockpit voice recorder"? They are going to be looking for a long long time. Hint: That plane never had a "cockpit voice recorder".
@@FrancesH.-hv8uo Yeah that's right it was a Chinese missile that took it out. I get better things to do on a Sunday than having a conversation about this subject with you. I usually say have a nice day but not this time. Have a bad one 👍
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Why does the 436 employees of NTSB also provide service accredited representative for foreign investigations? Doesn't that contradict the National part of NTSB?
We are getting close to the stage where conspiracy theorists will be arriving at the scene minutes after the emergency services. ( Very sorry to hear about another tragic loss of life involveing an aircraft).
Is it possible the hospital bed or a large oxygen tank was not sufficiently secured prior to take-off and after gear-up, during the climb, rolled far enough back to cause a momentary far aft CG, leading to an extreme pitch up, followed by a stall, which the pilots countered by pushing the nose down, probably adding power, as would be the normal procedure. But after the sudden pitch down, the loose equipment might have moved forward, again moving the CG, but this time to a far forward position, with enough force that it impacted the cockpit, forcing the pilots and the flight controls into full forward nose down position. Elevator surfaces might be insufficient to raise the nose, or the pilots could have become incapacitated due to the impact of the equipment, and the aircraft continued nose down, full power, which would produce the fight path seen on video. It takes 10 mins to speculate about the possible sequence of events, 15 mins to type it, but only about a minute for it to happen. RIP to all the deceased.
I can't believe in any of this! Too many unanswered questions (that could have been answered by now). I'm 76 "I" have NEVER know of a jet this size crashing in such a manor! A jet t turned into a rocket/bomb. Black box miss? Will it be found? If the pilots were Mexican(news) why did they have so many routine fights(news)? 1st thing, aggressive about NOT touching debris!!! When's the last time you heard that? Suspicious, as is the Black Hawk crash, brute that the Alaskan crash. If not the truth it's really hard to keep the facts straight, especially with numerous media coverage. There is a" pattern" emerging concerning ALL the DISASTERS since Katrina. Must include 9/11, it's no longer a conspiracy theory. What is going on? (Worldwide)?
My initial thought is that there was a load shift. Was there a gurney onboard and it wasn't secured properly? On takeoff it rolled back causing the stall then when they pushed over it rolled forward and it became an unrecoverable nose dive. Just a speculation.
I'm sure they strap those down very securely.. and how heavy would a gurney with a small child be, anyway? My initial thought was possibly a faulty oxygen tank, explodes, takes out the plane's hydraulics at which point there's no recovery..
Was there equipment on board heavy enough to shift and cause a stall?..thats possible, depending on the weight. but the flight trajectory doesn't actually support that, in my opinion. The airplane climbed to, 1400 feet AGL and flew "level" before descending and coming down at a 60 degree angle to the ground. If the airplane was able to obtain a "level" attitude, then the weight shift theory doesn't work. Meaning, that if the pilot was able to level the airplane after climbing, which did happen, then why would he lower the nose to go down at only1400 feet above the ground? A stall can occur at any airspeed if the critical "angle of attack" is exceeded. However, I think this accident was caused by an explosion of an engine, which damaged or took out the control surfaces, or an explosion inside, possibly some sort of medical device that destroyed the control surfaces. My analysis is just my opinion based on the limited information currently available. I don't think this flight had a black box, therefore, based on the extensive damage of the aircraft, it is going to be difficult to determine the cause of this crash.. ( private, instrument, commercial, multi-engine rated pilot)
exactly. Remember the Gulf Stream that went off the end of the runway at Hanscam Field Bedford in the Boston area a number of years ago? This is only one possibility
Flight Data is avaiilable online, from different sources. The "55" is considered a very fast plane, which makes it a great "Air Ambulance" were time is valued. Data shows the plane was at full-throttle for it's 46 seconds of flight. Which is very little time to correct any errors..What happened, it happen quick...
The fact she (the spokeswoman) already declared it an accident says enough. Why did she not left open the possibility it was an incident? Even if the crash was cause by structure or mechanical failure, often they are not accidents if reasonably preventable.
@@marlock6573 Proper technical nomenclatures she has not. It was hard to watch her gave press conference with Boeing plane door plug fell off. She constantly said screws.
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That was my theory. Leave one on (happens all the time) after a transfer. Quickly fills cabin with O2 that has no smell and a spark from electrical device- as simple as plugging or unplugging a cord and boom
These investigations take to long. If there are serious failing do we need to live with them for 3 years until the investigation finds out what went wrong. We need short,medium and long term investigations that can highlight failings immediately or dont fly to Reagan airport for 3 years until they find out what went wrong
This kind of fear mongering is shameful. If you want an investigation done right, it is not done quickly. It's statistically unlikely that another accident will occur and trying to convince people that flying is so dangerous that all flights must immediately halt is irresponsible and unconscionable.
The climb speed according flight radar, was normal as well as rate of climb for this type of aircraft. The last transmission of the pilot was calm and standard, then something happened. Trim runaway ? suicide ? but unlikely. horizontal stabilizer failure ? spatial disorientation unlikely with 2 pilots.
People are asking the wrong questions. An ai assistant could have helped airtraffic control pprevent this. AI is a new technology but we have to start asking the question could ai have prevented this. All humans make mistakes as do ai but risks can be minimised. The blame game only goes so far,we all make mistakes
@@Youveseenmebefore she obviously meant her peeps. The people she hangs with. She is also extremely correct. No one is buying this bs. Trump killed them all.
I'm going to go out here on the edge and say if it was an explosion on the plane probably had oxygen tanks if not that then maybe computer problems similar to those planes that was grounded for that reason 😞. Just hope that agency really thinks 🤔 twice about letting atonumus trucks without drivers on the road in the air there is room to correct but one little malfunction on the ground and a lot of people are going to have problems
There was No explosion . Any light you saw was the “landing lights “ used on takeoff and landing Glowing in the fog . The plane is so old it had no computer to hack !
People want to run to a lawyer all the time when it was a horrible accident. I was raised to use lawyers for real problems not see if they can suck money out of the tragedy.
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Look into the passengers... Whose wife and daughter were they? We can surmise he is very wealthy. Did he have any enemies? ...Just asking... Many times you have to widen your inquiry and look outside the box and the obvious.
end result "spatial disorientation" this is what happened no if ands or buts about it this was no stall this was no explosion before the crash... no flight control failure no major mechanical failure. Just simple pilot error caused by spatial disorientation. been saying this from the very first night.
The little girl was called Valentina Guzman Murillo. The Guzmans are a well known cartel family (El Chapo). The plane was burning as it came down. Just a theory but I'm thinking this was cartel related.
The amount of women in powerful positions in every branch of the government is kind of astonishing. I’m all for equality but promoting just because they want more representation is dumb as hell.
We all heard the helicopter pilot say to the tower, i see the plane. Is the pilots voice?, a man's voice or a womens voice. Our country is in trouble. Please listen to the recording again.
@@sallyprzybil2404all of the media regardless of what side your on is saying the same thing. the pilot of the helicopter was a female lesbian DEI hire. You are 100% right, it's a man's voice not a womens voice. Why are they lying to all of us
So grateful when she repeats the questions.
She did that because we couldn't hear the question
@ oh, I was wondering
An accident? Well duh. Stupid headline.
Sabotage!
@@bevonostro................ oh my
@@sallyprzybil2404 A medevac jet? Yeah that makes a lot of sense? Maybe someone was pissed off that they were going around trying to save people's lives. Not very likely. More likely a maintenance issue or problem with the oxygen tanks.
That "missile" had landing lights on clearly seen on many videos? No missiles have landing lights. It was a Learjet.
Loolk up the word description THE PLANE LOOKED LIKE A MISSLE FALLING
DEI hires all around
@@RobertPowellRN I'm aware, just reiterating to people claiming that this "could" have been an actual missile is a far reach.
@@bs7424-t1s not at all
some idiots probably looted the crash site and took off with the voice recorder.
That occurred to me too, unfortunately
Those idiots could be official.
prayers to all!
I only pray for one thing unfortunately there is nothing anyone can do now except grieve
Somebody accidentally loaded a faulty oxygen tank?
Think I'm going to hold my thoughts on these accidents until real information comes out instead of adding fuel to the fire with conspiracies.
Don’t do that! I am all ears!
@@journeywithnicholesame!
I thought people like us didn't exist anymore! Finally someone normal.
The comments are so cruel. It was an accident. A very tragic accident.
Yay, someone with sense, bravo, whew was losing hope. 🫶🏻🙏🏼
Amen!
not till the facts are in, dorothy.
@@Doo_Doo_Patrol you dumb@$$ why dont you come here & look around then 🤨
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I think it was an accident. Something catastrophic happened so fast there was no time to act. 8 hope the investigation doesn't take to long. So the families can get some answers and closure. May the victims now rest in heaven's eternal peace ❤
Thank goodness we have some normal folks here!
If the pilots screwed up we want to know. If it was the owner of the aircraft negligence due to poor maintenance or checks we want to know that as well. You can't call everything an accident just because you don't know.
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Deep States planned
@@xcalibertrekker6693 unless it was AN ACCIDENT 🙄
An accident caused by what? And how did they make that determination so fast without doing a full investigation first?
To me it looked like the pilot avoided crashing into buildings and aimed purposefully for the road during the nose dive, saving multiple lives.
I see the youtube "experts" are out in heavy number. Please explain, why this "missile" was accompanied with jet engine noise. Why this "missle" was moving much slower than the speed of an actual missile (video shows it)? Why would this "missile" have lights on it (seen in video)? Why the explosion was followed by the traditional black cloud of smoke which is the result of jet engine fuel burning? Why video shows debris from aircraft?
It was a cleverly disguised missile. So well disguised in fact that it was mistaken for a Learjet.
Yep, so sick of the conspiracy theorists. Yes, it looked awful but common sense or simple google search shows you about momentum, weight, force etc.
Most if these "experts" wouldn't know a missile if it flew up their ass.
THE MISSLE DESCRIPTION WAS THAN . EVER HEAR OF SOMEONE USING A WORD TO DESCRIBE WHT THEY HADE SEEN . FFS GROW A FRONTAL LOBE
NOT claiming it was a missile BUT cruise missiles have turbine engines - sound - and run on jet fuel. J.S.
However cruise missiles are about 18-24" in diameter while the 55 is about 7' in diameter -addressing the debris.
Added - we owned a L55 and the sound from that crash was an aircraft - not a cruise missile.
When the aircraft struck the ground - there was a big red / yellow flame of slow burning jet fuel.
When a cruise missile hits the explosive blast / flash is white and very high velocity. Almost like a camera flash AND the shock wave breaks windows for miles.
My guess at this point is the crew either got disoriented or had an instrument malfunction ( IFR ) , rolled over in the dark / rain / fog and never recovered.
Proof an accident can take place in a minute. R.I.P. ♥️
Slight turn to the right. Slight turn to the left. It sounds like the mechanisms were jammed and not responding properly to commands that caused it to fishtail and plunge with the engines at full power. The plane was supposed to make a right turn, which failed. The pilot then attempted to turn left in order to determine if the control in this direction worked. The plane reacted like a stuck mechanism sudden sprang into action. Grease on gears is supposed to be washed off before new grease is applied. If this is not done, but grease is merely added, over time grease becomes sticky or waxlike resulting in a delayed response. A gear remains stuck for a moment then breaks loose. I am familiar with this concept from operating a printing press where timing is critical. There is also an instance in which a person pressed the trigger on a gun, nothing happened, so he assumed that it was not loaded, when a minute later it went off. There was also an instance in which the elevator gear in the tail of a plane was stuck.
It didn't crash like it was stalled. Came in like a ballistic missile.
@@xcalibertrekker6693 Yes, it came down with the engines at full power making it appear to be a missile. The plane seems to have fishtailed and plunged. I used the wrong term. I believe stall refers to when engine power is insufficient to keep the plane moving forward and it drops.
This is a really interesting comment. Thanks
'17 experts and me, also' 🤣
For a full investigation, officials need to physically retrace the steps of the plane from its point of departure. Did some major piece of the plane fall off immediately after takeoff? A major piece of the puzzle may be lying in an area no one has been to.
Accident or whatever, that thing was at full power. Explanation for that will be interesting . I’m just speculating that the maintenance records might also be concerning.
Is this the briefing from Saturday?
That "plane" dropped like a missile.
Unfortunately I can’t believe anything this administration says.
Not as fast as your IQ dropped
@@Notfiveo0It’s post 11-5. Trump is now POTUS. Biden is no longer installed. Believe.
Engine Stall ???
@@Notfiveo0 and you trusted Joe Biden for 4 years and his administration
What a unfortunate case.
It initially looked like the aircraft was on fire, but in fog the lights created the appearance of flames.
The way the aircraft went into the ground - it's unlikely the CVR is intact.
There were no coms beyond the pilot acknowledging departure information.
I'm guessing the crew lost control somehow ( several ways ) rolled the aircraft over in the dark / rain / fog and couldn't recover.
I really thought it was on fire too but have seen video with three lights (wingtips and center) in a straight line. Definitely no fire. Hard to imagine spatial disorientation literally within 30-45 seconds after takeoff ... I wonder how the hell it happened.
@@charaps2608 Several year ago there was a CRJ flying at altitude. The pilot PFD started indicating a climb. The pilot responded by pushing the nose down without cross checking the co pilot PFD or altimeter or the stand-by HSI. He almost lost it, but had enough altitude to recover.
In this case whatever happened - there wasn't enough altitude to recover.
How eerie that so many air crashes are happening in such a short period!
Not really. Small plane crashes happen all the time. They don't take a pause when an airliner crashes. They are independent, unless involved in an airliner crash.
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Deep States planned
Is a big conspiracy now? Ha ha ha!
I get the sentiment with two fatal accidents so close together and so publicized but speaking statistically worldwide it would barely qualify as an anomaly. The DC accident has been waiting to happen for decades because you probably shouldn't fly military VIP helicopters in overlapping routes with a busy airports restricted airspace and I'm guessing we will hear the other one was catastrophic failure due to improper maintenance. Private Mexican companies like the one that crashed have a bad track record with such things. Just a thought.
THE ntsb chairman needs to go....
Hello news channel-
The title of the video looks ridiculous in type-as a thumbnail
@@merryfergie who tf cares
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Wow, they didn't plan on crashing? Who would have thought that? Did they at least file a flight variation after hitting the ground?
Well with the bigger parts of this vaporized airplane fitting into a cigar box. Those folks at the NTSB have done a great job of piecing this together. How do they know this was an accident? If they know the cause why are they not telling the public? You heard the tower conversation with the plane. No problems or emergency declared and then boom. How do they know? And what do they know?
Thanks for stating the obvious Mrs. Captain Obvious. Edit...Did she say they are looking for the "cockpit voice recorder"? They are going to be looking for a long long time. Hint: That plane never had a "cockpit voice recorder".
Another description for accident , is SOMEONE'S ERROR! Who failed?
They sure are quick to call it an accident, now they intend to move the wreckage in order to investigate?????
Because it was an accident! Is that so hard for you to comprehend?
@@malcolmcossar6447 You're so gullible. You believe whatever anyone tells you.
@@FrancesH.-hv8uo Yeah that's right it was a Chinese missile that took it out. I get better things to do on a Sunday than having a conversation about this subject with you. I usually say have a nice day but not this time. Have a bad one 👍
Welcome to the real adventures of life!.......You cannot predict when death and accidents occur, or when you think they should or should not happen!
Unfortunately there are Conspiracy Theorists Experts and Specialist in their own minds who will never be satisfied that anything can ever occur like this unless it was Coordinated, Schemed, and Planned Strategically! SMH!!!
If you pay attention to these and other types of accidents, they are usually ruled an accident until proof is found otherwise.
Why does the 436 employees of NTSB also provide service accredited representative for foreign investigations? Doesn't that contradict the National part of NTSB?
Because airlines fly internationally??????
No, our nation handles incoming and outgoing international flights.
We are getting close to the stage where conspiracy theorists will be arriving at the scene minutes after the emergency services.
( Very sorry to hear about another tragic loss of life involveing an aircraft).
Hopefully! So we can know the truth.
GOOD WORD TO USE IMPACT
Is it possible the hospital bed or a large oxygen tank was not sufficiently secured prior to take-off and after gear-up, during the climb, rolled far enough back to cause a momentary far aft CG, leading to an extreme pitch up, followed by a stall, which the pilots countered by pushing the nose down, probably adding power, as would be the normal procedure. But after the sudden pitch down, the loose equipment might have moved forward, again moving the CG, but this time to a far forward position, with enough force that it impacted the cockpit, forcing the pilots and the flight controls into full forward nose down position. Elevator surfaces might be insufficient to raise the nose, or the pilots could have become incapacitated due to the impact of the equipment, and the aircraft continued nose down, full power, which would produce the fight path seen on video. It takes 10 mins to speculate about the possible sequence of events, 15 mins to type it, but only about a minute for it to happen. RIP to all the deceased.
Too soon too to say it was a 'accident'. It could of been mechanical malfunction.
A malfunction causes an "accident" or do you have other criteria we don't know about?
Which, by definition, is an accident!
And when a mechanical malfunction happens, you have an accident...
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I can't believe in any of this! Too many unanswered questions (that could have been answered by now). I'm 76 "I" have NEVER know of a jet this size crashing in such a manor! A jet t turned into a rocket/bomb. Black box miss? Will it be found? If the pilots were Mexican(news) why did they have so many routine fights(news)? 1st thing, aggressive about NOT touching debris!!! When's the last time you heard that? Suspicious, as is the Black Hawk crash, brute that the Alaskan crash. If not the truth it's really hard to keep the facts straight, especially with numerous media coverage. There is a" pattern" emerging concerning ALL the DISASTERS since Katrina. Must include 9/11, it's no longer a conspiracy theory. What is going on? (Worldwide)?
you can't classify it as an accident until you are sure that it was.
@@Doo_Doo_Patrol it freakin was was for the love of God STOP perpetuating this b.s
My initial thought is that there was a load shift. Was there a gurney onboard and it wasn't secured properly? On takeoff it rolled back causing the stall then when they pushed over it rolled forward and it became an unrecoverable nose dive. Just a speculation.
I'm sure they strap those down very securely.. and how heavy would a gurney with a small child be, anyway?
My initial thought was possibly a faulty oxygen tank, explodes, takes out the plane's hydraulics at which point there's no recovery..
Was there equipment on board heavy enough to shift and cause a stall?..thats possible, depending on the weight. but the flight trajectory doesn't actually support that, in my opinion. The airplane climbed to, 1400 feet AGL and flew "level" before descending and coming down at a 60 degree angle to the ground. If the airplane was able to obtain a "level" attitude, then the weight shift theory doesn't work. Meaning, that if the pilot was able to level the airplane after climbing, which did happen, then why would he lower the nose to go down at only1400 feet above the ground? A stall can occur at any airspeed if the critical "angle of attack" is exceeded. However, I think this accident was caused by an explosion of an engine, which damaged or took out the control surfaces, or an explosion inside, possibly some sort of medical device that destroyed the control surfaces. My analysis is just my opinion based on the limited information currently available. I don't think this flight had a black box, therefore, based on the extensive damage of the aircraft, it is going to be difficult to determine the cause of this crash.. ( private, instrument, commercial, multi-engine rated pilot)
Of course it was an accident. Why would the government admit any different? They wouldn’t.
Sabotaged
@@sallyprzybil2404Brainwashed
@@wholewheatstingray yes you are!
Sounds like a possible flight control issue
Makes no sense unless the pilots failed to do proper checks.
exactly. Remember the Gulf Stream that went off the end of the runway at Hanscam Field Bedford in the Boston area a number of years ago?
This is only one possibility
Flight Data is avaiilable online, from different sources. The "55" is considered a very fast plane, which makes it a great "Air Ambulance" were time is valued. Data shows the plane was at full-throttle for it's 46 seconds of flight. Which is very little time to correct any errors..What happened, it happen quick...
The fact she (the spokeswoman) already declared it an accident says enough. Why did she not left open the possibility it was an incident? Even if the crash was cause by structure or mechanical failure, often they are not accidents if reasonably preventable.
@@maestrovso I certainly don’t trust the news 😒that would be a joke💯
Blondie is clueless like the movie says!!
Another armchair expert who knows better about what type of nomenclature should be used.
@@marlock6573 Proper technical nomenclatures she has not. It was hard to watch her gave press conference with Boeing plane door plug fell off. She constantly said screws.
You can trust yourself all day, but it wont resolve anything or do anything for nobody....Welcome to the real adventures of life!.......You cannot predict when death and accidents occur, or when you think they should or should not happen!
Unfortunately there are Conspiracy Theorists Experts and Specialist in their own minds who will never be satisfied that anything can ever occur like this unless it was Coordinated, Schemed, and Planned Strategically! SMH!!!.....
Thanks for taking my Post Down. BTW, We Americans have the right to "FREE SPEACH" Thank U
The constitution limits what the government can do with respect to the people. It does not apply to a private corporation limiting rights to post “speech.” Just like a private business can limit some of your other rights when you are on their property. For example an arena can have security searches of people entering their venue and they can prohibit weapons protected by the second amendment.
Maybe wrong fuel was put in fuel tank, that is very difficult because of all the safety precautions associated with fueling aircraft!
maybe the word IMPACT should have been avoided here
Folks, please be respectful in ur comments. It's easy to be negative but please stop and think before sending a bad comment. Thanks.
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They figured that out fast. Too fast.
O2 tanks
What about them? They aren’t the cause.
That was my theory. Leave one on (happens all the time) after a transfer. Quickly fills cabin with O2 that has no smell and a spark from electrical device- as simple as plugging or unplugging a cord and boom
Deep States planned
NTSB has 436 personnel soon to be 4.36 personnel
Donald Trump =don't trust planes🤣
Was the aircraft not properly de-iced?
Something exploded on that plane!
Nope
Right, it looked like it was on fire before crashing.
@@michellesmith8912 I hope yall can do some self reflecting after this, but you wont.
Agree agree agree!!! That plane was already on fire
@@Azuciea why are you saying that? Something could have exploded on the plane. So, perhaps you should do a search of yourself- pretty sure you won't.
Don't be so gullible, people. Just because they said it was an accident doesn't mean that's the truth.
You should become an aviation accident investigator. Of course, you will need to learn something about aviation...
2 major collisions? Ok
I guess if you hit the ground that's technically a "collision"
Someone 'accidently' flew a drone into the plane. Simple as that. Technically an accident!
Yyyea....we believe everything our government officials tell us...the Simpson's see it differently 😮😮
IS THE RECORDING GOING AROUND FAKE?
How is the debris of a Lear jet "dangerous" two days later?
TOXIC on plane ... plus looking for Black Box....
Great question but unfortunately nobody will answer
These investigations take to long. If there are serious failing do we need to live with them for 3 years until the investigation finds out what went wrong. We need short,medium and long term investigations that can highlight failings immediately or dont fly to Reagan airport for 3 years until they find out what went wrong
This kind of fear mongering is shameful. If you want an investigation done right, it is not done quickly. It's statistically unlikely that another accident will occur and trying to convince people that flying is so dangerous that all flights must immediately halt is irresponsible and unconscionable.
How?...
Was it a drone sucked into the engine?
Communation to Piolet was Dead !!!😮
Engine Stall ???
No engines were running ,
Maybe
Could this be similar to Korean Air Cargo 8509 in 1999?
She is Dan Gryders bestie!
Old news from Saturday.
Looks like a case of spatial disorientation
It doesn't.
The climb speed according flight radar, was normal as well as rate of climb for this type of aircraft.
The last transmission of the pilot was calm and standard, then something happened.
Trim runaway ? suicide ? but unlikely. horizontal stabilizer failure ? spatial disorientation unlikely with 2 pilots.
Or a cartel hit?
That plane was on fire.. all videos show it so
Not really, lights
Debris is very dangerous? Is it radioactive or what?
I wondered why she said that too.. I mean if it's not on fire then how is it dangerous ..
@ They have been telling the locals that from the onset. Typical protocol in my opinion, gather up all the evidence and disappear it.
they always talk so stupid in these things
accident yeah sure , suspicious not reporting you having a problem with your plane 🧐 the way it came down is ver very suspicious . i was 3 blocks away
Well this was worthless. I wish I had those 5 min back.
Do not believe you another woke liar
completely untrustworthy.
Yeah, trust youtube commenters instead 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@Johnfisher12345 naïveté kills
Wait. Another one?
These investigations take months. How is it she can say it was an accident so fast. DEI leadership here
Trump following moron there.
She said they are classifying it as an accident. If they come across evidence of deliberate destruction of the aircraft, they will reclassify it.
People are asking the wrong questions. An ai assistant could have helped airtraffic control pprevent this. AI is a new technology but we have to start asking the question could ai have prevented this. All humans make mistakes as do ai but risks can be minimised. The blame game only goes so far,we all make mistakes
Could ai have caused it?That's a better question.
Thanks for the compelling analysis
@@adamdrouin2295 thanks for empathy
Wait I can't keep up. Now people are saying there was never a plane but it was a missile? And the target was a mall parking lot? Damn.
No, only idiots are saying that
I’ve not heard that conspiracy theory yet. Missiles don’t have wings, they also don’t have jet engines at full throttle.
2 of them hell naw we not buying it.
We? Speak for yourself.
@if you don’t like what I’m saying never respond 💯 just keep it pushing poo
@@Youveseenmebefore she obviously meant her peeps. The people she hangs with. She is also extremely correct. No one is buying this bs. Trump killed them all.
@ I can respond to whatever I want. There’s nothing you can do about it.
@@camille2141 WHAT??? LOL!!
Oh my.... TDS is an incurable disease.
I'm going to go out here on the edge and say if it was an explosion on the plane probably had oxygen tanks if not that then maybe computer problems similar to those planes that was grounded for that reason 😞. Just hope that agency really thinks 🤔 twice about letting atonumus trucks without drivers on the road in the air there is room to correct but one little malfunction on the ground and a lot of people are going to have problems
There was No explosion .
Any light you saw was the “landing lights “ used on takeoff and landing Glowing in the fog .
The plane is so old it had no computer to hack !
This incident will be solved VERY quickly since there are oh-so-many NTSB qualified experts on here.
So they did the psychological background on the pilot already and determined it wasn't suicide? Or it wasn't sabotage?
Dear lord you people dont stop lmao
No 💩 Sherlock!
People want to run to a lawyer all the time when it was a horrible accident. I was raised to use lawyers for real problems not see if they can suck money out of the tragedy.
nope...don't believe it
@@holmesrealestateteam8327 Do you have any education or expertise in aviation accidents?
Your lack of education and critical thinking skills is showing
The CVR may not have been installed. Remember, this is a plane maintained by mexican standards!
People please, obey God's Ten Commandments, otherwise you will be judged soon as well, don't play with God..😢.😢 People please, obey God's Ten Commandments, otherwise you will be judged soon as well, don't play with God..😢. People please, obey God's Ten Commandments, otherwise you will be judged soon as well, don't play with God..😢.😢😢
Shut up
problem solved the pilots had mexican food for dinner and farted during take off
Looked like the same kinda “plane” that hit the Pentagon.
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They have no idea what went on and wont.
Look into the passengers...
Whose wife and daughter were they?
We can surmise he is very wealthy.
Did he have any enemies?
...Just asking...
Many times you have to widen your inquiry and look outside the box and the obvious.
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Yes! The enemy was Trump. Duh 😡😡😡
Yes, the little girl going back to Mexico after a surgery was a crime boss. You cracked the case.
end result "spatial disorientation" this is what happened no if ands or buts about it this was no stall this was no explosion before the crash... no flight control failure no major mechanical failure. Just simple pilot error caused by spatial disorientation. been saying this from the very first night.
The little girl was called Valentina Guzman Murillo. The Guzmans are a well known cartel family (El Chapo). The plane was burning as it came down. Just a theory but I'm thinking this was cartel related.
It was caused by the Trump cartel.
They will never tell us the actual reason anyway.
The amount of women in powerful positions in every branch of the government is kind of astonishing. I’m all for equality but promoting just because they want more representation is dumb as hell.
We all heard the helicopter pilot say to the tower, i see the plane. Is the pilots voice?, a man's voice or a womens voice. Our country is in trouble. Please listen to the recording again.
wrong accident, this is one in Philadelphia. stop trolling
Man’s voice!
Why are so many of you so confused? This video/briefing isn’t about the DC crash
@@Johnfisher12345 because they are paid trolls trying to promote the idea that DEI is bad so the can bring the country back to good old racist ways.
@@sallyprzybil2404all of the media regardless of what side your on is saying the same thing. the pilot of the helicopter was a female lesbian DEI hire. You are 100% right, it's a man's voice not a womens voice. Why are they lying to all of us