Why Tally Hall Abandoned This Song

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
  • If you think that & and Black People White People have the same meaning, then this video will change your mind. I've chosen to not focus too deeply on the actual individual songs (or their lyrics) and instead explored their overarching themes, as well as a potential reason why Black People White People wasn't added to Good & Evil.
    This video is ALL my opinion, so if you disagree then that's totally fine - please share your thoughts in the comments! Above anything, I hope you enjoy this video &/or learn a thing or two about &, Black People White People, Good & Evil, or the universe :)
    #joehawley #tallyhall #hawaiipartii

Комментарии • 149

  • @Egg_ward
    @Egg_ward 11 месяцев назад +291

    kind of funny how this channel went from random tally hall clips to joe hawley song explanations in the matter of like 7 months

    • @tallyballYT
      @tallyballYT  11 месяцев назад +52

      i hope it wasn’t a downgrade

    • @sourlab
      @sourlab 11 месяцев назад +27

      @@tallyballYT NAHHH I'm so happy to have a channel like this as a new tally hall fan

  • @Undersans
    @Undersans 11 месяцев назад +176

    "Because good & evil as a concept is a good thing, whereas binary opposition as a concept is ignorant, destructive, counter-productive, & stupid"
    This hits so hard & is probably my favorite thing someone has said in ages

  • @FreddOtaku
    @FreddOtaku 11 месяцев назад +133

    you're like vsauce of tally hall on x1,5 speed but comprehensible and meaningful

    • @tallyballYT
      @tallyballYT  11 месяцев назад +31

      this is the best compliment i’ve ever received

    • @rowandunning6877
      @rowandunning6877 11 месяцев назад +10

      i find vsauce very meaningful. but yeah he can be very hard to follow sometimes (or maybe you're just not smart enough to get it) no jk

  • @waterPsychiatrist
    @waterPsychiatrist 11 месяцев назад +134

    This further proves that joe hawley is an absolute genius corrupted by the horrible ilness that is schizophrenia :(

    • @Chocolate-Jeff
      @Chocolate-Jeff 10 месяцев назад

      Why does everyone say he's schizophrenic, I've never seen this confirmed by any member of tally hall, or joe himself. all tally hall said was joe was mentally unwell.

    • @dimwittedecho
      @dimwittedecho 9 месяцев назад +17

      I agree, and I hope he gets the help he needs

    • @Astatine16
      @Astatine16 4 месяца назад +12

      I do hope Joe and all the other Tally Hall members are okay!

  • @milkshakegd
    @milkshakegd 11 месяцев назад +42

    This man really made a poll asking if people think his next video would be about & or black people white people then made it about both

  • @kiko_cheese
    @kiko_cheese 6 месяцев назад +22

    vsauce: tally hall edition

  • @spankowitzmusic
    @spankowitzmusic 11 месяцев назад +20

    I HAVE TWO SIDES
    black people || white people

  • @_ocuious
    @_ocuious 11 месяцев назад +31

    I did not need to spend 5 minutes on that one poll just to have both answers be correct

  • @nikobellic42
    @nikobellic42 11 месяцев назад +44

    im still waiting for the mutha clucka analysis and how its about the extended laws of the universe

    • @tallyballYT
      @tallyballYT  11 месяцев назад +9

      you’ll get it… eventually

    • @cooIskeleton94
      @cooIskeleton94 5 месяцев назад +4

      WE GOT IT!¡!

    • @nikobellic42
      @nikobellic42 5 месяцев назад

      @@tallyballYT You son a bitch, you were right. Thank god, it was beautiful.

  • @_Zero4_
    @_Zero4_ 11 месяцев назад +31

    Good & Evil being the good part of good & evil is funny considering there's no "Hawaii: Part I" :)

    • @139_Scarbon
      @139_Scarbon 3 месяца назад +4

      The missing duo: Evil G&E and Hawaii: Part I

  • @kassdred
    @kassdred 11 месяцев назад +89

    i love how you explain everything in less than 5 minutes, not like that people that make 30 min long vids and dont explain it 😭😭

    • @tallyballYT
      @tallyballYT  11 месяцев назад +22

      thanks! i always worry it’s too short and not explained enough, but comments like this definitely make me feel better about it

    • @kassdred
      @kassdred 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@tallyballYT I find the fact that they're short oddly comforting, I have ADHD so I dont normally watch long videos and being able to understand what I like in a short time and in a fun and actually interesting way is very appreciated:3

    • @tallyballYT
      @tallyballYT  11 месяцев назад +5

      @@kassdred ADHD buds 🤝

  • @GoninjaSeven
    @GoninjaSeven 11 месяцев назад +31

    WE'VE BEEN BAMBOOZLED AND WE GOT BOTH

  • @FregguTheFrog
    @FregguTheFrog 11 месяцев назад +15

    Also good and evil album cover is black and white

  • @gavinloewe3647
    @gavinloewe3647 11 месяцев назад +23

    I disagree that Good & Evil is supposed to be only the good side because calling something purely good is the exact opposite of what the album’s message is. I believe that it’s more likely that Black People, White People was removed from the album because the song was considered to be a little bit too silly when compared to the other more serious songs. Other than this one point this is a great and well made video.

    • @tallyballYT
      @tallyballYT  11 месяцев назад +6

      That’s totally fair. I probably should’ve made it more clear that my point wasn’t just that that’s the reason it wasn’t on Good & Evil, but more so that that’s one of the reasons Joe Hawley eventually did release it (along with the fact that it’s just a good song) and why it’s cool that they aren’t on the same album, because it wouldn’t make sense if they were :)

    • @gavinloewe3647
      @gavinloewe3647 11 месяцев назад +6

      Also the first half of the album Good & Evil has multiple of Rob’s break up songs. This establishes the idea that love is a strictly bad thing. Later in the album, in the songs A Lady and You we see that love shown as something that isn’t necessarily bad (“I know a lady good & evil”) and can even be a good thing (Rob’s song being “You & Me” while Andrew’s is “You” thus implying that in Andrew’s song their relationship isn’t evil). The album’s beliefs contradict each other here which again shows that the album isn’t meant to show only good. Also, I know “A Lady” was originally about Joe’s grandma but I think that it’s meant to be a love song in this album.

  • @sourlab
    @sourlab 11 месяцев назад +14

    Black and white ppl good and evil album TALLY HALL WHCHA TRYING TO SAY 💀💀💀💀💀

  • @JuanDR6
    @JuanDR6 11 месяцев назад +9

    As someone who native language is spanish I can say this video is perfect to practice my english listening

  • @Cyyrus
    @Cyyrus 11 месяцев назад +15

    i love these analysis videos so much 😭 Such a deep dive in 4 minutes!

    • @tallyballYT
      @tallyballYT  11 месяцев назад +2

      thanks! i always get worried that i don’t go in detail enough because it’s so short, but i think it’s just because i don’t pad my videos with unimportant stuff 👀

  • @On_Beat
    @On_Beat 7 месяцев назад +5

    The list of albums abbreviated could've been MMMM COC

  • @SunSeeker348
    @SunSeeker348 11 месяцев назад +6

    I wait for the day this man makes a Hawaii Part: II or Candle On The Water video

    • @andistansbury4366
      @andistansbury4366 6 месяцев назад +2

      Candle on the water is just a cover of a Disney song...

    • @SunSeeker348
      @SunSeeker348 6 месяцев назад

      @@andistansbury4366 Still a good song

  • @NicoAnIdiot
    @NicoAnIdiot 10 месяцев назад +7

    Is that the... Is that the VSauce background song...

  • @bigrodent-kingofRNG9931
    @bigrodent-kingofRNG9931 11 месяцев назад +4

    Straight to the point no beating around the bush and if you want more depth the creator suggests dropping a comment, this is why tallyball is za goat

  • @darky945
    @darky945 8 месяцев назад +3

    & it one of my top songs

  • @atrium3399
    @atrium3399 11 месяцев назад +5

    this was explained so well in under 5 minutes lol well done

  • @roopsk
    @roopsk 11 месяцев назад +10

    First!!! YESSSS!!! Westhatch?

  • @Beachbum-ch9cg
    @Beachbum-ch9cg Месяц назад +1

    the vsauce music and the topic being tally hall basically sums up this entire channel

  • @SlamDunkPyro
    @SlamDunkPyro 11 месяцев назад +4

    The wooden spoon is back let’s goooo 🎉

  • @johark
    @johark 11 месяцев назад +2

    id honestly love you see you try and analyze bring her along, its one of my favorite songs in the tallyverse and i still dont understand what it means

    • @tallyballYT
      @tallyballYT  11 месяцев назад +1

      it’s 100% on my list! i have a couple more vids planned before it though :)

  • @vafabalabarz1
    @vafabalabarz1 11 месяцев назад +1

    THIS IS AMAZING, YOU TRICKED US‼️‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️

  • @stormforeveryspring
    @stormforeveryspring 11 месяцев назад +2

    wow this is insanely good! i never would have sat down and looked more into the meanings of these songs, but this is so interesting and makes total sense. how do you find these seemingly minor details and flesh them out into something so deep? (also you’re voice is really nice👍)

  • @Cherry_Nitoya
    @Cherry_Nitoya 11 месяцев назад +2

    Me trying to understand the whole video because I don't know how to speak English and I only speak Spanish: 🕴
    but jokes aside, I loved the analysis and as you explain during the video lol

  • @judebug1997
    @judebug1997 11 месяцев назад +4

    marvelous
    un-marvelous

    • @suburbiaa
      @suburbiaa 6 месяцев назад +1

      Mechanical
      Non mechanical

    • @oat_the_keytar
      @oat_the_keytar 2 месяца назад +1

      Museum
      Non Museum

  • @LFLRFPS
    @LFLRFPS 11 месяцев назад +1

    this is really cool!!!! never thought about it and both those songs never made so much sense

  • @infinitefun527
    @infinitefun527 11 месяцев назад +2

    Joe Hawley Joe Hawley is the evil in good & evil

  • @meatpiedingo
    @meatpiedingo 3 месяца назад

    i absolutely love how the two live next to eachother because if you think about it, bpwp and & are also opposites, because their message is the opposite

  • @mrfreelove
    @mrfreelove 11 месяцев назад +1

    The transitions are sooooooooooo nice

  • @Sorata047
    @Sorata047 2 месяца назад +1

    Was that a potato vs spoon reference at the end?

  • @Klingklangklong
    @Klingklangklong 2 месяца назад +1

    I think that the message of & is more that nothing are perfect opposites. Like in every “duality” mentioned there is always a grey area where one thing can be both. Idk man

  • @cosmicslacker
    @cosmicslacker 6 месяцев назад

    Something I think is interesting is how the album covers also play with the same idea

  • @BUG_CIRCUS
    @BUG_CIRCUS 11 месяцев назад +3

    Wow I love how black people white people connect with &, And you explain so I can understand it lol

    • @BUG_CIRCUS
      @BUG_CIRCUS 11 месяцев назад +1

      OMG I LOVE THE OUTRO TO!!!

  • @cameronm.6797
    @cameronm.6797 6 месяцев назад

    Just found your channel today and subscribed and watched every video! I always love finding more Tally Hall related content and I’m happy to have crossed some more off the list. I make short piano covers and I did one of & a while ago. Keep up the good work!😁

  • @yunggatsby
    @yunggatsby Месяц назад

    Maybe it was supposed to be the first song of the album and "&" would be later in order to show some sort of development/revelation

  • @TheOnlyBloke
    @TheOnlyBloke 17 дней назад

    As an Indonesian single mom that gave birth in 1957, I approve of this video

  • @ebrucan7161
    @ebrucan7161 11 месяцев назад +1

    the editing is so good

  • @Crazyrayz
    @Crazyrayz 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video! Also I just noticed the name changed lmao

  • @sushicat999
    @sushicat999 6 месяцев назад

    Amazing analysis

  • @saturnzhornetz44
    @saturnzhornetz44 3 месяца назад +1

    Awesome video! Please remember to drink water and get at least a little bit of sunlight

  • @roopsk
    @roopsk 11 месяцев назад +2

    When are we gonna get a zubin sedghi out of context

  • @goobtube.1
    @goobtube.1 2 месяца назад

    0:17
    17 seconds in and bro is Vsauce

  • @madmillion88
    @madmillion88 6 месяцев назад

    I loved hearing the vsauce music coming in at the end LMAO

  • @FishVirus
    @FishVirus 11 месяцев назад

    This makes so much sense… yet none at all… bravo

  • @smg4yaoi
    @smg4yaoi 7 месяцев назад

    bpwp people is how the taijitu is viewed at a surface level but & is what the taijitu actually symbolizes

  • @banjomanperson
    @banjomanperson 11 месяцев назад +1

    i love your videos so much

  • @d3solatedd
    @d3solatedd 11 месяцев назад +1

    also, silly little thing i noticed, both black people white people and & are the second songs on their respective albums, maybe its a coincidence? maybe not?

  • @Wilhelmthewide
    @Wilhelmthewide 10 месяцев назад +1

    Bold of you to assume I think people are sexy

  • @uhigldasdtyuiosagjk
    @uhigldasdtyuiosagjk 11 месяцев назад +1

    i like your hair, also why do you have a spoon?

  • @Bedrockpanda-yw2jo
    @Bedrockpanda-yw2jo 11 месяцев назад +1

    Tallyball uploads, I click.

  • @thatmushroomguyanimations6235
    @thatmushroomguyanimations6235 11 месяцев назад +1

    Cool!

  • @Nathans_baking_YEAHHHH
    @Nathans_baking_YEAHHHH 6 месяцев назад

    Why did this Tally ball guy become V-sause?

  • @Kooooooooooooooooooooooooooooa
    @Kooooooooooooooooooooooooooooa 11 месяцев назад +1

    help my brain hurt

  • @Kaiserz_Stuff
    @Kaiserz_Stuff 4 месяца назад +1

    THE TIP OF THE HAT TO YOU SIR I SHOULD SPOUT!

    • @Kaiserz_Stuff
      @Kaiserz_Stuff 4 месяца назад

      the part after the indonesian moms thing is just so divine i literally ascend to the heavens every time i hear “never gonna stop me”

  • @coolranchcat
    @coolranchcat 11 месяцев назад

    the comment i put on one of the joe hawley videos of your that was before the doc man I’m sorry that if very embarrassing for mehelp😢😢😢🙏

  • @FrootDeMoN
    @FrootDeMoN 10 месяцев назад

    I liked this video :)

  • @mistakenmelody947
    @mistakenmelody947 11 месяцев назад

    I see you with the vsauce music

  • @kvixsow01
    @kvixsow01 3 месяца назад +1

    the real reason it wasnt used is because of the use of the fuck word several times

  • @JacobSernaGarciaHog188
    @JacobSernaGarciaHog188 3 месяца назад +1

    Basically
    Black People White People=,
    And=&

  • @oldmonitor2748
    @oldmonitor2748 11 месяцев назад +1

    oh

  • @rickandmortyfan649
    @rickandmortyfan649 3 месяца назад

    Joe Bawley

  • @zaycianing
    @zaycianing 26 дней назад

    fuck yeah

  • @E_bored
    @E_bored 11 месяцев назад +2

    Get a better video schedule please I love your videos 😭

    • @tallyballYT
      @tallyballYT  11 месяцев назад +2

      sorry! i’ve been really busy with school recently :)

  • @policeperson7589
    @policeperson7589 11 месяцев назад

    bro forgot the entire second half of BPWP

  • @Wapcvm
    @Wapcvm 3 месяца назад

    No I think Black People White People is actually for the same themes of Good & Evil because of that final breakdown after "Single Indonesian Mothers Born in 1967" (or whatever...), there's no 'opposite' of that.

  • @A_Random_Theatre_Kid
    @A_Random_Theatre_Kid 11 месяцев назад

    I was right

  • @uhigldasdtyuiosagjk
    @uhigldasdtyuiosagjk 10 месяцев назад

    Theres a new joe hawley piece of music out, what does it mean? Its called i am confessing and its on joe hawley-topic.

    • @gooseguts
      @gooseguts 3 месяца назад

      fake

    • @uhigldasdtyuiosagjk
      @uhigldasdtyuiosagjk 3 месяца назад

      @@gooseguts I commented this literally 40 minutes after the fake song came out. /:

    • @gooseguts
      @gooseguts 3 месяца назад

      @@uhigldasdtyuiosagjk wakwkakaka 🔳🔲🔳🔳🔳🔳

  • @LoganWasHere224
    @LoganWasHere224 2 месяца назад

    Why'd the thumbnail change?

  • @andistansbury4366
    @andistansbury4366 5 месяцев назад +2

    Ok, &?

  • @cryingsobbing
    @cryingsobbing Месяц назад

    good video omg

  • @the94thtoast
    @the94thtoast 9 месяцев назад +1

    🫂

  • @MVBT05
    @MVBT05 11 месяцев назад

    very cool video tbh :) btw i make music as a side hobby if you ever need anybody to compose something for a video at any point!

  • @SodaMuffins
    @SodaMuffins 11 месяцев назад +1

    YIPPE YOYRE BAKC 🎉

    • @tallyballYT
      @tallyballYT  11 месяцев назад +3

      yes! sorry for the late upload, been super busy with school :)

    • @SodaMuffins
      @SodaMuffins 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@tallyballYT its fine!! u can take as much time off as u need ^^

    • @sourlab
      @sourlab 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@tallyballYT no biggie shits getting wild in school now adays

  • @Stix95972
    @Stix95972 11 месяцев назад

    when new meme video 🤯🤯

  • @AlexAlcalde11
    @AlexAlcalde11 11 месяцев назад

    i dont have enough money to have a membership

    • @tallyballYT
      @tallyballYT  11 месяцев назад +2

      that’s ok! i appreciate you just watching what i’ve created :)

  • @aprilpantoja
    @aprilpantoja 2 месяца назад +1

    that song is catchy even though it’s racist

  • @youknowwho4293
    @youknowwho4293 10 месяцев назад +1

    you kinda look like paul dano

    • @tallyballYT
      @tallyballYT  10 месяцев назад +2

      i get this a lot 😭

  • @Yoylekoso
    @Yoylekoso 2 месяца назад +1

    A song vs an entire album? Are you sure? I think Black People White People is just meant to counter &, not the whole Good & Evil. Black People White People is only *one* song.

  • @ananas-nevermind
    @ananas-nevermind 11 месяцев назад

    Honestly, I'm liking the new content but I would appreciate if you could still at least MAKE content similar to the short tally hall clips you used to make

  • @rapvelasco1932
    @rapvelasco1932 11 месяцев назад

    Tally hall isnt just a conincidence and contradiction Tally hall is a band that consists of funny people and 1 proud loud serious person only some adore.
    And Fabloo

  • @almond_22
    @almond_22 28 дней назад

    why do you have a wooden spoon in your hand

  • @vcoolguy
    @vcoolguy 11 месяцев назад

    I was right?!

  • @unpapelcascaron7463
    @unpapelcascaron7463 8 месяцев назад

    what

  • @BlockedUser420
    @BlockedUser420 2 месяца назад

    Why are you holding a wooden spoon?

  • @NatureTapes
    @NatureTapes 6 месяцев назад

    the world isn't black and white the world is grey

  • @srpaul1027
    @srpaul1027 2 месяца назад

    & stole all of the & so the album doesnt get any

  • @azy_OH
    @azy_OH 11 месяцев назад

    Bro is not vsauce 😭

  • @brasunlol
    @brasunlol 11 месяцев назад

    Another video *&* another comment *&* another fuffilment

  • @mr.sandman3619
    @mr.sandman3619 11 месяцев назад

    i've watched 8 hour videos that seemed shorter than this one dude talks so fast

  • @brasunlol
    @brasunlol 11 месяцев назад +2

    mebmer