I appreciate the effort, but this video offered fairly little in terms of substance. You told us how to identify the types of bows, threw in a few words about smoothness, but offered no information whatsoever about how the different systems work or why they're used - which is probably what most people were looking to learn.
My intent for this video was in hopes of educating people on the terminology of each cam system. This video could be days long if i wanted to be. To explain how each system works i would have had to made detailed drawings or some sort of interactive web design. I also could have talked about how to tune each cam system. but once again. I wanted someone to watch this video then be able to walk into their local shop pick up a bow and say "hey, this is a such and such cam system because...". Thanks for watching. next consider wording your comment as a recommendation for a further video. Thanks
Well all I can say as someone who is new to archery is all that cam info is as clear as mud even after watching it twice Guess I need a book like Archer for dummies or cams 101 lol
Who'd a thought that a bow system could be so complex? I just presumed that a compound bow was a compound bow? I remember as a younger person having a 35# recurve bow that my father had bought me. Pretty cool for a kid to have. Now I look at bows and see just how advanced they have come in design and efficiency. Crazy! I've been watching a few RUclips videos on how to make a compound bow. Some are pretty good and well made, but now seeing these cam systems and the various stringing choices, I think I might hold off on attempting to make one. It would, however, be a rudimentary bow system. Thanks for the information. Cheers!
Darton started out calling their CPS cams a SINGLE CAM system. It basically was a single cam with string posts that allowed the long single cam bow string to be divided into two strings and attach to the top IDLER cam. The string portion of the idler was shaped so that the string take-up of the idler closely matched the bottom cam for LEVEL NOCK TRAVEL. So basically, the CPS cams were a single cam system modified for level nock travel. And as a bonus, you didn't have a very long bow string to deal with. So the CPS type hybrids that Darton used to use and PSE still uses is basically a Single cam with a string, a Buss cable, and a control cable. The bottom cam of a CPS is basically identical to the bottom cam of a single cam. The CPS just has a Hybrid TWO TRACK IDLER. Where the string side of the idler has close to the same profile as the string track of the bottom cam to help maintain more level nock travel.
I think it would have been easier to fallow the progressive technology of the cam systems. Also thexwhy and how they evolved and what difference and improvement each make. Example in my biomechanics classes we went over Newton's Laws, mechanical advantage of a pully system, and the more pullies set up, the greater the me handicap advantage. For example more pullies will double the ease/double your strength/ reduce the force you need to pull and lift the weight. Though when increasing the number ofxpully systems, you will need to have to pull twice the length rope of a two pully system, than you would with an one pully system. Pullies are also designed to change the directional force.
The binary overdrive is indeed a binary cam, just as the AVS system Mathews uses. The axle and cam are splined together therefore the axle rotates with the cam. They done this to use a split yolk system and eliminate cam lean which is inherent with standard binary cams.
I don't think bowtech have binary written all over the place with no reason. Bowtech looks very much like a twin cam, but the bus cable sit on an offset axle which rotate together with the cam, and so have the same working principle as the binary.
It certainly would’ve helped if you had begun with the most basic and worked your way up, starting somewhere in the middle does not set up for a very educational video, it actually makes it seem more difficult to follow because it seems to just go in every direction and very chaotic.
love the video. you should take off your shirt and wear short shorts and remake the video. lol but on a serious note. single cams are straight up the best.
RollthetideGamer ...true. But single cam bows still need to be “timed.” All single cams will be most efficient when the cam is drawn from one specific starting position. Often, that positive n is not set from the factory. Also, if you are getting really technical with your setup, and twisting your string to make minute adjustments to your draw length, you may need to then adjust your buss cable to reset, or retime if you prefer, your single cam starting position. That said, the Mathews Conquest 4 is a single cam bow, and has more tournaments and prize money than any other bow. So there is that.
Great video, I wanted a quick visual to identify the different types of cams so this was perfect! Thank you.
Thanks for providing this very informative video. Please do another video showing the cams in action and how the different strings work with the cams.
A1
Could you please stop snapping the marker cap?
I appreciate the effort, but this video offered fairly little in terms of substance. You told us how to identify the types of bows, threw in a few words about smoothness, but offered no information whatsoever about how the different systems work or why they're used - which is probably what most people were looking to learn.
My intent for this video was in hopes of educating people on the terminology of each cam system. This video could be days long if i wanted to be. To explain how each system works i would have had to made detailed drawings or some sort of interactive web design. I also could have talked about how to tune each cam system. but once again. I wanted someone to watch this video then be able to walk into their local shop pick up a bow and say "hey, this is a such and such cam system because...". Thanks for watching. next consider wording your comment as a recommendation for a further video. Thanks
Thanks for the vid but I'm still clueless as to what contrasts them from the other
Well all I can say as someone who is new to archery is all that cam info is as clear as mud even after watching it twice
Guess I need a book like Archer for dummies or cams 101 lol
Who'd a thought that a bow system could be so complex? I just presumed that a compound bow was a compound bow? I remember as a younger person having a 35# recurve bow that my father had bought me. Pretty cool for a kid to have. Now I look at bows and see just how advanced they have come in design and efficiency. Crazy!
I've been watching a few RUclips videos on how to make a compound bow. Some are pretty good and well made, but now seeing these cam systems and the various stringing choices, I think I might hold off on attempting to make one. It would, however, be a rudimentary bow system. Thanks for the information. Cheers!
Darton started out calling their CPS cams a SINGLE CAM system. It basically was a single cam with string posts that allowed the long single cam bow string to be divided into two strings and attach to the top IDLER cam. The string portion of the idler was shaped so that the string take-up of the idler closely matched the bottom cam for LEVEL NOCK TRAVEL. So basically, the CPS cams were a single cam system modified for level nock travel. And as a bonus, you didn't have a very long bow string to deal with. So the CPS type hybrids that Darton used to use and PSE still uses is basically a Single cam with a string, a Buss cable, and a control cable. The bottom cam of a CPS is basically identical to the bottom cam of a single cam. The CPS just has a Hybrid TWO TRACK IDLER. Where the string side of the idler has close to the same profile as the string track of the bottom cam to help maintain more level nock travel.
Extremely good video.clears up the confusion.thanks man
great video. excellent teaching. Could you make a video talking about mathews cam system; CROSSCENTER?
Excellent video and interesting.
I think it would have been easier to fallow the progressive technology of the cam systems. Also thexwhy and how they evolved and what difference and improvement each make.
Example in my biomechanics classes we went over Newton's Laws, mechanical advantage of a pully system, and the more pullies set up, the greater the me handicap advantage. For example more pullies will double the ease/double your strength/ reduce the force you need to pull and lift the weight. Though when increasing the number ofxpully systems, you will need to have to pull twice the length rope of a two pully system, than you would with an one pully system. Pullies are also designed to change the directional force.
great presentation keep it coming
which one is the most effecient to use for a beginner hunter? I'm guessing the single cam bow?
The binary overdrive is indeed a binary cam, just as the AVS system Mathews uses. The axle and cam are splined together therefore the axle rotates with the cam. They done this to use a split yolk system and eliminate cam lean which is inherent with standard binary cams.
Thank you for the information.
Great video Mr Madden!!
Thanks. Helpful.
I don't think bowtech have binary written all over the place with no reason.
Bowtech looks very much like a twin cam, but the bus cable sit on an offset axle which rotate together with the cam, and so have the same working principle as the binary.
I'd love to dig deeper into this but I upset some people with more money than me that this is incorrect.
Would like to see a video on nock travel in reference to nock point height regardless of timing.
I love the idea. I really need to find someone with a slow motion camera!
Is it necessary to unstring a compound bow for storage?
Didn't really learn what makes each system different in regards to the actual cams.
As an engineer, I understand cams, but the bow string/bus string/control string thing has me totally lost @_@
good vid
It certainly would’ve helped if you had begun with the most basic and worked your way up, starting somewhere in the middle does not set up for a very educational video, it actually makes it seem more difficult to follow because it seems to just go in every direction and very chaotic.
Which one is super smooth fast cam ?
Single cam, i would recommend to go to a local bow shop and ask questions and try out the bows who knows you might like the dual cams better
Yeaa good teaching but it's so dark af
Very nice. But not quite as good as Shelbyville Archery.
no coms?
Clicking that pen in a room with really bad echo is annoying.
That outlet needs a face plate
how about no cams
Don't get me started lol. I consider them twin cams.
This broke down by a guy with very little archery experience.
Wear white shirt when videoing black stuff
love the video. you should take off your shirt and wear short shorts and remake the video. lol but on a serious note. single cams are straight up the best.
Mark Chavez the best at what? Speed? Smoothness? Maintenance? Aesthetics? That's like telling someone a huge butt is better than a slim butt.
I like me a big butt
The best at more nock travel and less speed. Less down range kinetic energy. ie penetration.. lol
Well I like single cam over dual cam because with single cam you don't have to worry about your two cams going out of tune from one another.
RollthetideGamer ...true. But single cam bows still need to be “timed.” All single cams will be most efficient when the cam is drawn from one specific starting position. Often, that positive n is not set from the factory. Also, if you are getting really technical with your setup, and twisting your string to make minute adjustments to your draw length, you may need to then adjust your buss cable to reset, or retime if you prefer, your single cam starting position.
That said, the Mathews Conquest 4 is a single cam bow, and has more tournaments and prize money than any other bow. So there is that.
No bear invented the single cam sorry but you are wrong