11:46 Only thing that came to mind: Ming: "Never thought I would fight side by side with a nomad" Oirat: "How about side by side with a friend?" Ming: "Aye could do that"
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"Quick! I'm a time traveler so I need you to tell me what is happening in China today to know where I am in time" "We have a civil war coming up" "This could be any period of Chinese history"
Fun fact! There's a major and quite dangerous volcano on the border of China and North Korea and we're not entirely sure why it's there. In Korean it's known as Paektu/Baekdu, in Chinese it's Changbaishan/Baidoushan, and in 946 it experienced one of the largest eruptions of the last 5000 years-tephra was deposited as far away as northern Japan, according to the Smithsonian's Global Volcanism Program. The geology of the volcano is poorly understood and very strange-it doesn't appear to be above a subduction zone or a hotspot or to be part of a tectonic rift, but I'm unaware of any other eruptions of high volume that didn't occur over a subduction zone or hot spot, and the volcano erupts both rhyolitic (high-silica) and basaltic (low-silica, low-alkali) lavas (which is called bimodal volcanism and is quite rare, and seems to mostly happen in areas with rifting). So yeah, pretty weird volcano.
As long as you don’t state new territory you won’t lose mandate from devastation. So one strat to do if your using the mandate is to wait to full core territory only after devastation is under control.
I suppose, but when that territory isn't stated, you're not getting much out of it. I'd personally prefer to immediately state those cores because they drop to 0 autonomy
@@Quarbit yeah it’s more of a quick fix for if a state is causing a ungodly amount of negative mandate. Yes it makes more money if stayed. But every % below 50 reduces good produced by a %. Sometimes missing out on the income from the state is worth it to preserve the income from the rest of your nation.
I thinkt he biggest thing is that you idnt lose the mandate mechanically. If you did, for 20 years, you will have 50% damage recived, +10 unrest, -10 Discipline (making that previews 50% that much worse), -50% goods procduce modifier (compliantly collapsing any trade eco you had), -50% manpower (applies to mecrs as well), -1 yearly legitimacy , and +50% Stability cost mod. Meanwhile, whoever took the mandate would have +60 yearly tax, +20 land force limit, +15% Manpower recovery speed, -10% land maintenance +.05 mandate growth, and -.1 Monthly devastation for 25 years. needless to say, this becomes close to impossible without the mandate.
I once had a game where ming didn't explode and controlled all of asia and india and half of persia plus they took exploration ideas and controlled most of siberia before russia ☠ meanwhile my dumbass is fighting europe as the ottomans not realizing that a monster is creeping up on me from behind lmao I lost to them btw
That surprises me. I’ve seen Ming stay strong for a few games but they never really seem to expand themselves except when its their rivals (Oirat, Japan, etc.)
Well if you want to play as ming without mandate, then create new country in random countries options, after you incorporate whole ming into that new state release ming and play as wassal but with all of ming cores, you would loose your monument in Beijing, but I think it’s worth it
I tryharded Ming early this update and if you're not careful with reform timing and military, you don't even need to force the Mingsplosion due to the disaster they're almost guaranteed to have now Edit: Actually watched the video and yeah, that's what you used. Also if you try anything like this again, you can cheese the devastation by dev clicking with your least important mana to bring it down
You shouldn't have been trying to avoid Civil War. The disaster is rather mild and doesn't spawn a lot of rebels while it provides huge amount of mandate.
I've only played maybe a dozen games, but i've only ever seen Ming explode once, any idea why they are so competent in my runs? Even my current game where i am now Yuan, with 6 wars to fully eat Ming they never had anyone successfully break out.
It's fairly random whether Ming will explode or not but one way that they can explode is if Ming goes to war with Oirat just after the start of the game, the Ming Emperor gets captured in battle by Oirat, and then Oirat manages to siege down Beijing soon after. This completes the Tumu Crisis chain with an Oirat victory which obliterates Ming in so many ways.
yea sometimes ive seen them get real lucky with fighting off rebel stacks so that no separatists succeed at breaking off, but they almost always just sit there at 0 mandate the rest of the game. no one ever really tries to fight them though because of their sheer size until later in the game when Bengal gets rolling. I think ive only seen one game where they wound up recovering their mandate and successfully expanding after doing all the reforms, but that was probably through some godly luck on the AIs part with mandate events.
The AI is also significantly more aggressive now than it used to be so it may be that this aggressiveness translates into the AI destroying rebels more efficiently.
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11:46
Only thing that came to mind:
Ming: "Never thought I would fight side by side with a nomad"
Oirat: "How about side by side with a friend?"
Ming: "Aye could do that"
Western Romans and Germanics be like that too in those bad days
Just like what Ming did in history. He called Qing for help.
Broke: Annexing your vassals diplomatically
Woke: Annexing your vassals militarily.
Stability is just a number.
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Quarbit: I will actively broadcast using the console to make my game more difficult.
it gets better. the save is in the discord
Every eu4 youtuber except ludi lol
@@m_uz1244that’s because ludi cheats
"Quick! I'm a time traveler so I need you to tell me what is happening in China today to know where I am in time"
"We have a civil war coming up"
"This could be any period of Chinese history"
Nope
Fun fact! There's a major and quite dangerous volcano on the border of China and North Korea and we're not entirely sure why it's there. In Korean it's known as Paektu/Baekdu, in Chinese it's Changbaishan/Baidoushan, and in 946 it experienced one of the largest eruptions of the last 5000 years-tephra was deposited as far away as northern Japan, according to the Smithsonian's Global Volcanism Program. The geology of the volcano is poorly understood and very strange-it doesn't appear to be above a subduction zone or a hotspot or to be part of a tectonic rift, but I'm unaware of any other eruptions of high volume that didn't occur over a subduction zone or hot spot, and the volcano erupts both rhyolitic (high-silica) and basaltic (low-silica, low-alkali) lavas (which is called bimodal volcanism and is quite rare, and seems to mostly happen in areas with rifting). So yeah, pretty weird volcano.
It's over
Also every north-korean leader was born in a wooden hut on the very top amidst snow, in perfect weather and under a triple rainbow
@@Ballin4Vengeance what does that have to do with the volcano
@@baseupp12 It’s a fun fact about it
This is some volcanos fax fr
And right after the old borders were achieved the empress of China made the same mistakes that lead to the disaster in the first place.
Job for future generations
@@idontlikerome2744 now you are being too real :D
this seems like an absolute nightmare, very entertaining to watch
As long as you don’t state new territory you won’t lose mandate from devastation. So one strat to do if your using the mandate is to wait to full core territory only after devastation is under control.
I suppose, but when that territory isn't stated, you're not getting much out of it. I'd personally prefer to immediately state those cores because they drop to 0 autonomy
@@Quarbit yeah it’s more of a quick fix for if a state is causing a ungodly amount of negative mandate. Yes it makes more money if stayed. But every % below 50 reduces good produced by a %. Sometimes missing out on the income from the state is worth it to preserve the income from the rest of your nation.
I thinkt he biggest thing is that you idnt lose the mandate mechanically. If you did, for 20 years, you will have 50% damage recived, +10 unrest, -10 Discipline (making that previews 50% that much worse), -50% goods procduce modifier (compliantly collapsing any trade eco you had), -50% manpower (applies to mecrs as well), -1 yearly legitimacy , and +50% Stability cost mod.
Meanwhile, whoever took the mandate would have +60 yearly tax, +20 land force limit, +15% Manpower recovery speed, -10% land maintenance +.05 mandate growth, and -.1 Monthly devastation for 25 years.
needless to say, this becomes close to impossible without the mandate.
Thank you for making this video since you mentioned it in one of your other previous videos, been looking forward to it.
I think there should be a show superiority cb against tributaries who refuse to pay tributary.
11:45 "Lets get to business! To defeat, the Shun!"
Youre close to 50k, getting exited for that roman empire speedform
You'll probably be waiting until the end of the year lol
@@Quarbit You should form it as Theodoro 🙃
I once had a game where ming didn't explode and controlled all of asia and india and half of persia
plus they took exploration ideas and controlled most of siberia before russia ☠
meanwhile my dumbass is fighting europe as the ottomans not realizing that a monster is creeping up on me from behind lmao
I lost to them btw
That surprises me. I’ve seen Ming stay strong for a few games but they never really seem to expand themselves except when its their rivals (Oirat, Japan, etc.)
We should thank ISP for inventing that term
Wait did he actually coined the term "Mingsplosion"?
@@CooltasticOG maybe, who knows, we're not narcs.
It's like your empress did it just to prove she could do a better job of managing China than any man could.
I wish there were grand strategy games that focus on China, unfortunately the shortcomings of most of these games are that they focus on Europe
total war 3 kingdoms? idk I don't play total war games
@@Quarbit meh it’s alright, I mostly enjoy rts games though but good point
The empire
Long united must divide
Long divided must unite
This should be an achievement, it seems like the most fun way to play china
It's Quarbin time
Well if you want to play as ming without mandate, then create new country in random countries options, after you incorporate whole ming into that new state release ming and play as wassal but with all of ming cores, you would loose your monument in Beijing, but I think it’s worth it
This is definitely a more fun way to play Ming compared to how I played it in the discord
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You should’ve played as WU conquer Tibet and release U and then give U Tibet making the name placement UWU
I tryharded Ming early this update and if you're not careful with reform timing and military, you don't even need to force the Mingsplosion due to the disaster they're almost guaranteed to have now
Edit: Actually watched the video and yeah, that's what you used. Also if you try anything like this again, you can cheese the devastation by dev clicking with your least important mana to bring it down
You shouldn't have been trying to avoid Civil War.
The disaster is rather mild and doesn't spawn a lot of rebels while it provides huge amount of mandate.
Bro I am losing my fuckin mind that this is the first time you've played Ming lmfao
there's a first for everything :)
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You should do the Ming Back Up plan on Taiwan. Which a Ming rebel used as a Base against the Qing.
Ming never explodes anymore
Quarbit more like I want morebit
You can get rid of devastation by developing!
yes, but I like to keep up with techs and save to dev institutions
9/10 you didn't conquer Tungning.
You can get rid of devastation using dev clicks. Do you REALLY need to be caught up on diplo tech?
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Now I wanna do it
I've only played maybe a dozen games, but i've only ever seen Ming explode once, any idea why they are so competent in my runs? Even my current game where i am now Yuan, with 6 wars to fully eat Ming they never had anyone successfully break out.
They almost never explode in my runs. Unless it's done by me attacking them over and over.
It's fairly random whether Ming will explode or not but one way that they can explode is if Ming goes to war with Oirat just after the start of the game, the Ming Emperor gets captured in battle by Oirat, and then Oirat manages to siege down Beijing soon after. This completes the Tumu Crisis chain with an Oirat victory which obliterates Ming in so many ways.
yea sometimes ive seen them get real lucky with fighting off rebel stacks so that no separatists succeed at breaking off, but they almost always just sit there at 0 mandate the rest of the game. no one ever really tries to fight them though because of their sheer size until later in the game when Bengal gets rolling. I think ive only seen one game where they wound up recovering their mandate and successfully expanding after doing all the reforms, but that was probably through some godly luck on the AIs part with mandate events.
The AI is also significantly more aggressive now than it used to be so it may be that this aggressiveness translates into the AI destroying rebels more efficiently.
Actually this is a good stratregy to get tons of forts across china. Might be worth trying ;)
theyre making vassals able to revolt while at war in new patch? hard pass on that looks like staying on old patches is back on the menu
first lol
hey, quarbit, your vids are fun to watch and the way you deliver shit is funny, you do good work. keep it up, man, world is less hellish for having content like yours in it.
It breaks immersion to see estates interaction as Ming. Not really liking Estates that much overall, still
for the real experience mandate would be 0 at start ;p
Press "0" for *aughh*
Do you want to enjoy the mandate of heaven? Of course not! You can have destroying events every 2 days
And what do you get? Almost nothing
>he didn’t reduce his mandate to zero
Casual :^)
Do a part 2
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Its kinda cringe when you play one game an you're sponsored by the other
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not ironman lol ?
how am I supposed to cause the disaster in ironman? Wait on speed 5 for 3 hours?
Try console commands in Ironman, surely they'll work