This maneuver IRL is known as a Loaded Roll, basically a high AoA barrel roll. It's something the plane could technically do but could and should are two different things.
@@rocketassistedgoat1079 It has its uses but the lack of fly-by-wire makes recovery sketchy, not to mention as mentioned, yes you can easily run into over G situations.
@@rocketassistedgoat1079 IT does not, thats why at high aoa you dont use stick for rolling, but rudder. F14 can do barrell roll opposite way than steerimg input (at certain conditions)
@@gamerdude7481 depends on the game mode, though you might be able to do this in simulator mode, I don’t see it being possible without putting the L in structural integrity.
I wonder if it has something to do with the sweep wings? The MiG-23, also uses spoilers, so maybe their designers came to the same conclusion. I'll add, that elite MiG-23 pilots, can go 1-1 vs MiG -29s in mock dogfights. Mikoyan added his own requirement, which went above and beyond the design brief: he made sure it could turn inside an F-4 Phantom, which he was personally impressed by. Of course, a MiG-23 is a third generation jet, MiG-29 and Tomcat, are forth gen.
@@mr.sunmeadow probably because of a similar reason. When the wings were slicked back there is very little air for an aileron to interact with and the same holds true for the starfighter with it's little stubs.
@@t65bx25 unless there isnt. Plenty of situations when the entire enemy team is chasing an ally instead of you, or in ground rb when there arent many planes
@@maximuskay1 I mean i've played both games and i really don't know where the hype comes from when there is a new aircraft in war thunder. I am sure that if War thunder would just reskin the f-14 and make it an f-15 everyone would like ''WOW new aircraft, so epic'', while the flight models in War thunder are all the same unrealistic low quality flight models (for newer generation aircrafts mostly, some of their ww2 aircrafts aren't bad at all but there isn't a single jet that is even close to be called semi realistic, yeah doing some 15Gs on max afterburner for the whole game without going out of fuel and not ripping your wings apart) There is just so much overrated hype for a new aircraft that just is a new skin basically in this game, unlike something like DCS where a new aircraft REALLY means new aircraft and not just a skin.
@@HandlesSuck123 Your opinion is that, hypothetically, if something is hard but unrealistic then it's not skillful, you shit on the game while having the dumbest fucking opinions, jesus christ. Same with Cody King, just elitist fucking neckbeards, you people make me puke.
It would be a shame if someone did this in DCS.... ruclips.net/video/HrM9UH7-E-Q/видео.html ... For those wondering how to do this 1. Use full real control 2. go anywhere between 400-600 kph 3. Pull elevators all the way back, ailerons and rudders all the way to the right 4. As you are finishing the maneuver, do the opposite of the above. 5. If you are using bombs, set bomb fuse to 0, and don't accelerate until after the bombs explode.
@@Galm02 i can fly a plane (cant do tricks like that) but driving a helicopter right? (Google translator says "to drive a helicopter) I first started watching him because of his helicopter videos. I'll fix my comment tho thanks!
@@WigSplitters Pilots would never be allowed to do such a thing lol. Risk of airframe breaking or pilot blacking out and crashing. We can do it in video games and that's it.
@@jeffreylmAu a cobra is the fact of a plane being so maneuvrable that is can put it's wing almost perpandicularly to the flow of air to slow down very fast so it isn't the same thing as a nose dive
F-14A famous for having comprerssor stall problems when the airflow into the intakes is disturbed. Meanwhile that manouever. But Damn impressive manouever. Probably best to not do it in real life tho 😅
Apparently Getoastet saw some real genius flying in Bruce but he held something back because he didn’t want the entire audience to see right through him that he’s fallen for you... (Intro of “Take My BreatheAway” comes in...)
That's what me and my friends call a Spitfire after watching someone do this in a spitfire and taking out a person who was on his six with initial d playing
HEELLLLLLL YEAAAAAHHHHHHH F-14 IS IN. MY FAVOURITE PIECE OF AVIATION HISTORY IS NOW AVAILABLE. Nice moves pilot. I can’t wait to share the skies with you, until then, VF-84-1 signing out
Is that Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune OST for the music? You have good music taste brother! LOVE the trance music that game has, perfect for going all out for top speed on a highway, or in this case with the F-14, flying supersonic only a coupe of meters over the waters.
From the info I've gathered online: "No angle of bank changes of 360 degrees" "No repeated rolling manuevers" "Easy to drive into an unrecoverable flat spin" Video title should be renamed to "This One Simple Trick Will Snap Your Wings and Your Spine"
Do this in DCS and get a nice thump out of an engine flaming out,, followed by warning beeps because of inducing a compressor stall in one of the engines. At least with the F-14A that is.
The F-14 can also do a Kvochurs bell, just pull back on the stick for about a half a second and then rudder kick. Its honestly more useful than a cobra.
@@Hydra_6544 yeah, even then it's kinda tricky to recover from a flatspin like it. I play the F14 in DCS and it can actually be kind of cool to to recover from it at the last second. If I was someone who made cinematics for the tomcat I would definitely include a flatspin somewhere
The B model has significantly more thrust and such has better power to weight ratio. The plane actually has a greater than 1 thrust to weight when clean loaded and low-ish fuel state (50 percent or less) which is pretty nuts considering the F14 is the heaviest naval fighter the US navy has ever flown. The F4 may have shown that with enough thrust, even a brick can fly, but the F14B shows that with enough thrust, you can make a brick break Mach 1 straight up.
@@lonelyone69 yes, but claiming that there's no difference between A and B model in game if compressor stalls isn't modeled is incorrect - because the B has a 30 percent better power to weight ratio than A. The extra power would be modeled even if compressor stalls aren't. That *would* be a significant difference in game.
@@SPIRIT-117 The extra thrust did not reflect in better combat performance. It just made them break less and didn't cause stall issues at slow speed. The plane still maneuvered the same just with a 1 second cut off 360 full turn time. The issue with the tomcats was not the engines it was the clunky large airframe that bled speed like an early hurricane. Without the stalling there will be basically no difference between the models. The only way you'll see it is if you're not loaded in which case whats the point in flying it in the first place.
@@lonelyone69 lol what? You are telling me that the same airframe, with the same weight and drag characteristics, but with engines that output 30 percent more thrust, isn't going to have advantages in how it handles? You're fucking high lmao. F14B will accelerate quicker, gain airspeed quicker after a turn when at full power, with 30 percent more total power in the engines. Garuntee that when WT gets around to adding the F14B, it's a slightly higher BR than the A since its extra engine power gives it the ability to energy fight better. When they do, it'll mean your original claim of "no difference" is wrong.
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This maneuver IRL is known as a Loaded Roll, basically a high AoA barrel roll. It's something the plane could technically do but could and should are two different things.
Totally. You'd get to do it ONCE (assuming the wings didn't come off), then you've bled all your energy and speed off and are just sitting there.
@@rocketassistedgoat1079 It has its uses but the lack of fly-by-wire makes recovery sketchy, not to mention as mentioned, yes you can easily run into over G situations.
@@aviationrambler Does the Tomcat not have fly by wire? I guess not for recovery from spins? For the regular flight envelope only.
@@rocketassistedgoat1079 IT does not, thats why at high aoa you dont use stick for rolling, but rudder. F14 can do barrell roll opposite way than steerimg input (at certain conditions)
@@rocketassistedgoat1079 It's got some flight augmentation but not a true fly-by-wire system.
Imagine getting 360 noscoped by a damn f14
apperantly the f-14 was rated for controlled spins just like the i-16!
h diss
Goose would like to have a word with you
Funny spin
@@castironskillet2594 bro 💀
i literally just finished rewatching top gun
@@Hybrid3DR bro, I just got done seeing Top Gun Maverick
Trying something like that on a Real F-14 would probably break something or at minimum get you yelled at by all the maintenance crew.
I'm pretty sure the maintenance crew would string you up and beat you
more than likely rip the wings off.
Since it’s an F-14A the engine compressors would definitely stall leading to engine failure. And at that altitude that means either eject or die
Bro the navy would ground you for life doing that. Those things aren't cheap!
@@sammykilian2272 "writing cheques your body can't cash" sorry had to, I'll be quiet now.
Flying an F-14 with cowboy boots on is goated
The F-14A can't cobra, but it can still snap its airframe into a million pieces and turn its flight crew into goo.
pilot-pilot goo
And people call War Thunder a simulator
@@gamerdude7481 depends on the game mode, though you might be able to do this in simulator mode, I don’t see it being possible without putting the L in structural integrity.
@@gamerdude7481 no they dont its a flight and tank pvp game not a sim
Just get dcs
U.S. Navy Representative: Again, why does it have spoilers to roll instead of ailerons? Grumman Testpilot: Watch this.
I wonder if it has something to do with the sweep wings? The MiG-23, also uses spoilers, so maybe their designers came to the same conclusion. I'll add, that elite MiG-23 pilots, can go 1-1 vs MiG -29s in mock dogfights. Mikoyan added his own requirement, which went above and beyond the design brief: he made sure it could turn inside an F-4 Phantom, which he was personally impressed by. Of course, a MiG-23 is a third generation jet, MiG-29 and Tomcat, are forth gen.
@@rocketassistedgoat1079 you are correct. If the wings are swept back, the rollrate would be nearly nothing if it used aelerons
the F-105 also uses spoilers when rolling, and that doesn't have swing-wings. It uses both spoilers and ailerons when rolling
@@mr.sunmeadow probably because of a similar reason. When the wings were slicked back there is very little air for an aileron to interact with and the same holds true for the starfighter with it's little stubs.
@@brainfat1 oh yeah, that makes sense
the masculine urge to force ace combat physics into every flying game imaginable
i put ace combat physics into kerbal space program >:)
Not DCS. Shit like this gets you sent back to the startup procedures. But hey, at least there aren't any repair costs.
@@StudleyDuderight😮😢
Bruce you absolute madlad, now I need to see this replicated in GRB
I'll try it on stream today :)
@@BruceLeeroy94 Late to the party- Did it work? Also take my sub you madman.
@@BruceLeeroy94 where?
@@KellingtonDorkswafer not really. Ground vehicles were buggy on the dev server, so I could only pull it off in custom battles.
@@BruceLeeroy94 you should include your stream on the description so more people join up
And I thought ace combat maneuvers were nearly impossible in war thunder
Unironically seems like a dope move when someone’s on your tail
pro tip: you can even do it in prop's
except you instantly become easy target once you slow down
@@jeffreylmAu not if someone hot on your tail acidentally overpasses you after that
@@kirtil5177 It’s war Thunder, there’s always one more player above you.
@@t65bx25 unless there isnt. Plenty of situations when the entire enemy team is chasing an ally instead of you, or in ground rb when there arent many planes
He’s gone too far
He flies planes like they are helicopters now
heli-plane? Heliplacopter?
Vertical Plane, Horizontal Helicopter
Thats just some insane flying skills... I'm seriously impressed!
There is no skill in this game whatsoever, bruh. Try this shit in DCS and see what happens to ya
@@codyking4848 I guarantee you only play DCS.
@@maximuskay1 I mean i've played both games and i really don't know where the hype comes from when there is a new aircraft in war thunder. I am sure that if War thunder would just reskin the f-14 and make it an f-15 everyone would like ''WOW new aircraft, so epic'', while the flight models in War thunder are all the same unrealistic low quality flight models (for newer generation aircrafts mostly, some of their ww2 aircrafts aren't bad at all but there isn't a single jet that is even close to be called semi realistic, yeah doing some 15Gs on max afterburner for the whole game without going out of fuel and not ripping your wings apart) There is just so much overrated hype for a new aircraft that just is a new skin basically in this game, unlike something like DCS where a new aircraft REALLY means new aircraft and not just a skin.
That's not skill. That's just the physics being terrible. Wouldn't surprise me if this was with the instructor on as well.
@@HandlesSuck123 Your opinion is that, hypothetically, if something is hard but unrealistic then it's not skillful, you shit on the game while having the dumbest fucking opinions, jesus christ.
Same with Cody King, just elitist fucking neckbeards, you people make me puke.
This was possible in the Tomcat due to the lack of a Flight computer, so if u pulled too hard it would enter a stall. But not recover
It would be a shame if someone did this in DCS.... ruclips.net/video/HrM9UH7-E-Q/видео.html
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For those wondering how to do this
1. Use full real control
2. go anywhere between 400-600 kph
3. Pull elevators all the way back, ailerons and rudders all the way to the right
4. As you are finishing the maneuver, do the opposite of the above.
5. If you are using bombs, set bomb fuse to 0, and don't accelerate until after the bombs explode.
This does very nice in the A10 as well 😀
That my friend is called a “snap roll”
the speed is similar in ace combat 7 to do PSM
@@evangelionfan2A Trigger is different Lmaooooooooo
Bruh is bringing ace combat to war thunder.
If this happened to me in a real battle I’d be very very very impressed
That looks quite a lot like a cobra turn, a variant of the cobra maneuver. In fact I think it is! :D
No
It's a snap roll.
@@misarthim6538 this. ☝️
@@misarthim6538 With such AoA? I thought snap rolling was stalling one wing as a way of performing a controlled partial stall/flatspin
negative only russian sukoi jets have that
Mans using the F14 the way god intended. All it’s missing is Danger Zone playing in the background.
my god you're such an inspiration, just got into vr wt literally dreaming of driving/flying like that
Driving?
@@Galm02 i can fly a plane (cant do tricks like that) but driving a helicopter right? (Google translator says "to drive a helicopter) I first started watching him because of his helicopter videos. I'll fix my comment tho thanks!
@@kerecsenracz8094 no worries, and good morning 👍
@@kerecsenracz8094 nah it’s flying a helicopter too 🙂 because they both fly
@@imperialsecuritybureau6037 Would driving be considered wrong? Is driving only for surface vehicles (Ships, Cars, etc?), And what about take-off's?
Gaijin releasing a new top tier jet with a flight model of a UFO? Classic.
Most real modern jets could probably do something like this
@@WigSplitters not if you want to keep your wings
@@delamox yeah I'm just saying their airframe allows for it so why not be allowed to do it, u can also do it in dcs
@@WigSplitters Pilots would never be allowed to do such a thing lol. Risk of airframe breaking or pilot blacking out and crashing. We can do it in video games and that's it.
@@krunchie101 ik, but when that isn't a limitation for us we can go ham
“Hit the brakes, he’ll fly right by!”
Ace Combat players: FINALLY!! A WORTHY OPPONENT!! OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY!!!!
w, 19 likes
Enemy aircraft: "nooo! You can't just maneuver like that, It's illegal!"
Tomcat: "hah thrust vectoring go brr"
Even funnier, the tomcat doesn't have thrust vectoring
@@brandondaway1 yeah just really good fbw lol
@@paytonanthony1308 even funnier the F-14A isn't FBW either haha
@@brandondaway1 lol
@@paytonanthony1308 lmao
Pulling that hard, so suddenly, on the stick in DCS: My plane now exists in 3 pieces.
This man is out here pulling the LMAOA module
I see you are someone of culture
I hope they add the ability to rip your wings like in DCS so you people cant pull sustained 13Gs at 500 knots XD
Imagine dodging a missile like that
its cool but it wouldn't work on a missile lmao
That would be badass!!!
@@Arkhmar because it would explode nearby?
Press the flares when u do that
If u cant doge the missile in time
BRO, mad props for adding some Wangan Midnight music to this!
Cant wait to do this in a real air rb match and get shot out of the sky immediately
This guy is a war thunder giga Chad literally sitting in his pajamas with cowboy boots on
Cobra maneuver is a complete meme anyway. Can't even kill tanks with it.
you can if it is upside down
@@philippey4918 an upside down cobra should be called a nose dive
@@jeffreylmAu a cobra is the fact of a plane being so maneuvrable that is can put it's wing almost perpandicularly to the flow of air to slow down very fast so it isn't the same thing as a nose dive
@@philippey4918 Yes,
But what if its upside down?
@@jeffreylmAu same thing . And why did you delete your previous reply?
Very epic. Actually reminded me of the missile launch spin the the veritech fighters in Robotech sometimes do.
Holy shit I was thinking that!!! I love Robotech!!!
@@RoughNek72 Woo Robotech! My dad introduced me to anime with it, although nowadays I prefer Macross.
If this the way someone killed me in GRB I wouldn’t even be mad I’d just sit there and contemplate my life choices on what brought me to face them.
If you encounter them the matchmaking thinks you are great too.
F-14A famous for having comprerssor stall problems when the airflow into the intakes is disturbed. Meanwhile that manouever. But Damn impressive manouever. Probably best to not do it in real life tho 😅
GOOOOOSE
Apparently Getoastet saw some real genius flying in Bruce but he held something back because he didn’t want the entire audience to see right through him that he’s fallen for you...
(Intro of “Take My BreatheAway” comes in...)
I love how you find ways to play a plane like a helicopter!
That has to be the best -pirate- pilot I've ever seen...
*Danger Zone immediately starts playing*
The helicopter main shidding on AAA players in F-14 tomcat MWAHHAAHAH
Either someone watched a certain movie or... he's just cracked
those are ace combat level of flying antics!
Literally straight out from Ace combat maneuvers
Warthunder in VR is litteraly everman that cant afford VRs dream
War Thunder VR in 2022, when Ready Or Not VR
That's what me and my friends call a Spitfire after watching someone do this in a spitfire and taking out a person who was on his six with initial d playing
You flatspun going forward and killed all the ground targets, damn thats neat.
When he started practicing, he was clean shaven.
when you think this is what they mean when they say launch a sidewinder missile
Me attempting this.
"Pilot knocked out"
*throws PC out window
Damn this new ace combat game has really good graphics
I've watched this like 6 times and still don't know what I'm watching. Epic
VR with 3rd person camera?
peak performance
"Jesus Christ!" - Lt. Cmdr. Rick "Jester" Heatherly
Pretty sure someone did that in an F-4 in Vietnam.
I have no clue what just happened but something exploded so nice job :)
The boots say it all, man’s a certified pilot
HEELLLLLLL YEAAAAAHHHHHHH F-14 IS IN.
MY FAVOURITE PIECE OF AVIATION HISTORY IS NOW AVAILABLE.
Nice moves pilot. I can’t wait to share the skies with you, until then, VF-84-1 signing out
We need a cinematic of this
“Just hit the brakes and he’ll fly right by”
Pretty impressive, as usual King Friday..... XD Thanks for sharing!
the wangan music just makes it super intense
AOA Limiter in Project Wingman be like
Son: Mom, can we have cluster bombs?
Mom: No, we have cluster bombs at home.
Cluster bombs at home:
It's not about the plane, it's the pilot
Was not expecting WMMT and boots.
imagine if tom cruse started playing war thunder
whoo damn MAVERICK! Love this the Airforce (like pro skaters) are going to invent new maneuvers. U are an artist sir!
Is that Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune OST for the music?
You have good music taste brother! LOVE the trance music that game has, perfect for going all out for top speed on a highway, or in this case with the F-14, flying supersonic only a coupe of meters over the waters.
Awesome WMMT soundtrack use! My nostalgia
I have only experienced such power twice before, Project Wingman and Ace Combat
i cant even fly straight with mouse and keyboard and this bro does stuff like that.
"I'm going to hit the brakes, he'll fly right by us." In a nutshell.
a very nice snap roll there my friend. very extravagant
Flying a Tomcat in boots, damnit it’s the only way to fly
randomly stumbled upon this video and was NOt expecting WMMT3 music 😭😭
War thunder : Tokyo drift
From the info I've gathered online:
"No angle of bank changes of 360 degrees"
"No repeated rolling manuevers"
"Easy to drive into an unrecoverable flat spin"
Video title should be renamed to "This One Simple Trick Will Snap Your Wings and Your Spine"
For 1 that take off in the real life the aircraft would go through enough of a compressor stall to put it into a flat spin
"Hit the break and he'll come right by"
This is so cool, because a plane does this crazy manouver in the new top gun movie, and looks a bit like this. Just a fun coincidence 😜
Do this in DCS and get a nice thump out of an engine flaming out,, followed by warning beeps because of inducing a compressor stall in one of the engines. At least with the F-14A that is.
Engine flamout? Bro, you'd probably snap your wings clean off lol.
Engine flamout would be the least of your problems 😂😂
20k subs! Congrats my man
Should we tell him that an F-14 is NOT an helicopter ?
Nah, mate. That's pointless. Wouldn't stop him from doing this anyway. XD
Just hit the breaks and he’ll fly right by
That's really impressive tbh
I swear to god if I see someone heading on to me like this and im at my ADATS and he does this im gonna lose it and I wont even be mad.
1:01 😳👁️👄👁️💀💀💀WHAT ??!!!!!!
Maverick would tip his helmet for you. Nice flying man
Didn't know the F-14 could use an AOA limiter
You gone full russian SU-57 on a Foxbat lovely.
Reminds me of the T2 and F1 since it can do this
The F-14 can also do a Kvochurs bell, just pull back on the stick for about a half a second and then rudder kick. Its honestly more useful than a cobra.
Imagine this in a real combat scenario 😂
The plane would get a compress stall, the INS would totally break and at that altitude the plane would crash. But would be sick to watch lmao
Bro always knows how to pick the right music for these vids
He's literally ready to become a pilot
Warthunder flight model is arcade either way, you can do all sort of stuff
I used to do similar things only with a TrackIR 5 back when sim was worth playing to grind shame Gaijin killed it with their bs anti player mentality.
i see a fellow yuzokoshiro enjoyer
you can probably do this in the real F14 but the recovery not so much
You would probably need more altitude
@@Hydra_6544 yeah, even then it's kinda tricky to recover from a flatspin like it. I play the F14 in DCS and it can actually be kind of cool to to recover from it at the last second. If I was someone who made cinematics for the tomcat I would definitely include a flatspin somewhere
damm your the first person that could manage to do this without a sweet
No doubt that non of the f14 stall issues will be modelled in game so there's basically no difference between a and b
The B model has significantly more thrust and such has better power to weight ratio.
The plane actually has a greater than 1 thrust to weight when clean loaded and low-ish fuel state (50 percent or less) which is pretty nuts considering the F14 is the heaviest naval fighter the US navy has ever flown.
The F4 may have shown that with enough thrust, even a brick can fly, but the F14B shows that with enough thrust, you can make a brick break Mach 1 straight up.
@@SPIRIT-117 Yes because the B model got replaced engines to deal with the stalling issue.
@@lonelyone69 yes, but claiming that there's no difference between A and B model in game if compressor stalls isn't modeled is incorrect - because the B has a 30 percent better power to weight ratio than A. The extra power would be modeled even if compressor stalls aren't.
That *would* be a significant difference in game.
@@SPIRIT-117 The extra thrust did not reflect in better combat performance. It just made them break less and didn't cause stall issues at slow speed. The plane still maneuvered the same just with a 1 second cut off 360 full turn time. The issue with the tomcats was not the engines it was the clunky large airframe that bled speed like an early hurricane.
Without the stalling there will be basically no difference between the models. The only way you'll see it is if you're not loaded in which case whats the point in flying it in the first place.
@@lonelyone69 lol what? You are telling me that the same airframe, with the same weight and drag characteristics, but with engines that output 30 percent more thrust, isn't going to have advantages in how it handles? You're fucking high lmao.
F14B will accelerate quicker, gain airspeed quicker after a turn when at full power, with 30 percent more total power in the engines.
Garuntee that when WT gets around to adding the F14B, it's a slightly higher BR than the A since its extra engine power gives it the ability to energy fight better. When they do, it'll mean your original claim of "no difference" is wrong.
20k subs soon Bruce!
i didnt know the f14 could do snap rolls!
Loaded roll is the proper term.
@@MetaliCanuck hmm never heard that term
in reality it can't