Steinway VS. Fazioli | Restored Piano Comparison
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I wonder how many people who had the chance to play both would give the nod to Steinway.
I certainly don’t. A well voiced (Hamburg) Steinway is a very fine instrument, but boy, Fazioli is in its own league.
Tone seperation on Fazioli is in other level.
dynamics, clearity, bit brighter but not to bright.
I mean Steinway is one hell of a piano but something in the Italian magic is to good.
Fazioli is the clear winner for me here :)
Steinway is great.
It is, I’ve got some videos on my channel from Steinway hall :-)
Give me the Steinway; Fazioli too bright in treble
personally like Fazioli more
Очень хорошо, что рядом встретились два достойных соперника. Правильно, что рядом не было ни Ритмюллера, ни Блютнера. 😊
Man the Fazioli is so clean and pure.
Fabbrini is a Steinway modified by a piano tuner in Italy named Fabbrini. It is not a Fazioli they are two separate piano's.
@@SergeMarinkoviclooks like Fabiola to me.
@@SergeMarinkovic It is a Fazioli. period
woa its so weird hearing the comparison when the fazioli is just the littlest bit flatter then the steinway
Fazioli seems far more rich and deep.
IMPOSSIBLE to compare side by side and ALL DEPENDS on the technician who adjusted the action and voicing... MOST pianos sound pretty BAD straight from the manufacturer UNTIL a GOOD certified and experienced Piano Tech works their "magic" upon it!.
Steinway moved to China. New York wake up you are in for self destruction in your ways. Let's move everything to China and put out garbage for products. I would rather buy a Hamburg Steinway any day. But I'm for the old sound and keep the old strings and soundboard. The action can be regulated and the hammers voiced. Steinway is a was was. 73
I completely disagree
The Fazioli sounds deeper, crisper, brighter. The Steinway sounded just a tiny bit more muffled than the Fazioli as well.
Ultimately, when performing for a large audience in a concert hall, low resonant sounds carry powerfully and far. A salon and a concert hall each require different resonances. In my opinion, such a tone is better suited to a salon.
I have heard a lot of different opinions about fazioli, At first I also thought there was nothing particularly surprising about it, it didn't sound as warm as kawai or other grand pianos, in my opinion it is very sensitive to touch and you can change the tone co-ordinally, and if you hear his bass in real life, then he seems to growl, the sound literally snatches my soul.
What I love about Fabiola is about how it’s extremely sensitive to touch, that’s what makes it so special. Playing fantaisie impromptu on a Fazioli is a crazy experience
I only know two people with a baby grand Steinway. Both pianos are from the late 1800s. My aunt teaches piano lessons on hers. It's otherwise a conversation piece because they enjoy showing off, pretending that they're not showing off. I don't think my neighbors play theirs at all. I think I may have played it once, 25 years ago.
I rather like both instruments. I find the Fazioli has very noble and homogeneous ring throughout the registers, whereas the Steinway is an ensemble of „Soloists“.
Fazioli vs Steinway - Chorus vs Soloist.
I do play both and love both, have a look at my channel for lots of Steinway videos 😊
Here Fazioli is tuned slightly deeper, don’t know why.
It’s a great balance. Makes the Steinway seem muffled and dark.
I just hear them as different and not necessarily better than each other. Piano sound is very subject. I have heard both Steinway and Fazioli in person. My preference being Steinway.
It's depends on a million things.
Of course one is , the exact year and model, but the most important factor is the personal
preferences... both have advantages and disadvantages to the other. On this level , there are no objective judgment is available. It's up to the question
what's more important for you ...
For me , the robust powerful bass
section of the Hamburg Steinway is really impressive. ( I am usually
not too impresed of the American Steinway...) -- the Fazioli is better in other sound requirements.
Fazioli is mellower, darker in the lows and has more harmonious highs, Steinway is more direct and has a better controlled and bright lows and less shining highs, I see them one as more romantic while the other more classic/baroque
Which one is more suited for romantic and which one is for classic/baroque?
@@weiliu3623 Fazioli for romantic, Stenway for baroque. Chopin and Beethoven sound amazing on the Fazioli, so deep.
Excellent analysis. You must be a musician!
@@tbarrelier I played piano for 10 years, but more than that I love classical music and have been listening it all my life, I'm very accustomed to the nuances
@@Augustus_Imperator 60 years ago I stumbled upon WJZZ out of Bridgeport, CT. They played "The 100 Most Popular Classical Performances" which had been picked by Leonard Bernstein. From age 14 to when I entered the army 3 years later I listened to the major classical repertoire for several hours a day. These works became imprinted in my brain. They were food for my soul. I can't say why this music affected me so, but it has. Without music, this world would be a lot worse than it already is!
Wenn man schon den Vergleich anstellt, dann bitte
einen Steinway S (155 cm) gegen einen FAZIOLI F156.
Oder auch einen Steinway B gegen einen FAZIOLI F212.
Abgesehen davon, daß beide Flügel im Diskant intoniert
werden sollte, schlägt sich der kleine FAZIOLI gegen den
"B" im Baß erstaunlich gut und ist in jedem Fall das in
sich ausgeglichenere Instrument.
That fazioli sounds flat. Tune it first then compare. Between these 2 the Steinway
I think it would be more fair to compare an f156 to a model s which is the same size
I liked Fazioli as expected. Then blind tested it and found Steinway was actually better. It could be due to microphones placement and many other factors, not talking about proper device to play the sound from RUclips (not a phone, lol!)
スタインウェイは全てが平均的に聴こえて柔らかい
ピアノと言えばこの音というような音ソロ向け
対してファツィオリはメロディラインがはっきりしていて
アタックが聞こえやすく鋭い音がとても綺麗で協奏曲向け
逆な気がした。
@@tetsuji4.5
まぁ音って数値はあっても正解はないからねぇ
自分はスタインウェイはソロで聞きたいと思いましたね
Sayonara Kombaya Watashi Ama kakeru ryu no hirameki
The comparison methodology is fundamentally incorrect! It is necessary to play the same music on both instruments.
steinway: beer mug
Faziolio: wine jar
It seems to me the tone of the Fazioli is more focused, lazer-like, if you will. Also, it sounded to me that the Steinway had a "twangy" component to its timbre. I would buy the Fazioli. Of course, hearing is ultimately subjective!
Idk I kinda like the Steinway rebuilt piano better. Seems more lively. But the Fazioli is pretty also. 😊
Fazioli trop aigu...
Stein trop profond dans les graves... Un entre deux serait bien ... Kaway ?
The Fazioli is so much nicer than the Steinway, the brightness is fantastic, it's so clear
hire a decent pianist
I think fazioli sounds pure & better
When the pianist played the excerpt from the "Moonlight Sonata", the Fazioli sounded a little muddied and muffled, while the Steinway was clear.
In this comparison, I would have chosen the Steinway over the Fazioli. However to be fair, I've heard comparisons where the Fazioli sounded bright while the Steinway sounded muffled. One RUclips video is not enough to make a complete comparison. And even the genre and period of the music make a difference.
For Rachmaninoff, this Fazioli piano would probably fair better than this Steinway (although Bosendorfer pianos would out-do them both!), but probably not for Mozart. For Mozart, bright, clear and singing qualities are needed for the middle and upper registers. This Fazioli had a great upper register but a quieted middle register, while the Steinway did not.
Tough choice. Fortunately, I'm rich and I would just buy both.
Fazioli is very expensive but the sound is richer but I don’t know if it’s better. It depends on the piano model. He might be comparing a very expensive Fazioli piano to a cheaper Steinway piano.
Or the Steinway piano is just a little out of tune. I also like Steinway.
In my opinion Fazioli sounds less tuned than Steinway. Just a little bit~:)
I prefer the old Steinway, surprisingly.
I do play both and love both, have a look at my channel for lots of Steinway videos 😊
IMPOSSIBLE to compare side by side and ALL DEPENDS on the technician who adjusted the action and voicing... MOST pianos sound pretty BAD straight from the manufacturer UNTIL a GOOD certified and experienced Piano Tech works their "magic" upon it!
Old 6 foot 4 parlor Steinway has my vote. They are not made anymore. either is a good piano by Steinway. 73
@@ronb6182Fazioli now has a piano the size of Michael Jordan.
it all means nothing unless we know about microphone placement. Room acoustics and where the piano is placed in the space can make a big difference
I wouldn't go to a shop where they don't take the effort to tune piano's before comparing them.
So it isn’t only me. the Fazioli sounds out of tune.
I have to say i prefer the rich bloom of the Steinway.
I would not suprise that you also like big woofer in your car trunck.
Wow. Both are beautiful- Fazioli for me.
Fazioli...amazing clarity !
With the Beehthoven you hear it! Fazioli is better.
Pas le même diapason, mal accordés, c'est pas très sérieux comme comparaison, mais l'idée est bien pour deux marques de prestige
Bost sound outstanding. But I have to say, if I had to make an on the spot choice it would be the Fazioli. It just had that little extra "sparkle" that set it apart. Without a side-by-side nobody would know the difference. And it all depends on the acoustic environment.
Of course a new piano would always beat old, antique ones. Whether the old heads admit it or not.
Everyone plays these nocturnes and stuff at pianissimo. Beautiful, yes, but there is so much more to the colour spectrum. I want to hear the thunderous octaved bass notes at fff...
Der Steinway hat so eine unglaubliche Wärme… der Fazioli ist zwar klarer aber auch härter.
Ich würde den Steinway in der Paderewsky Edition nehmen. Sieht einfach schöner aus 😌
I do get to play both every week and I love both, I will call in to see next time I’m near you 🎹😊
We are looking forward to see you! 🥰
The statue says it all, covering its ear, the Fazioli has a painful attack. I think it would be interesting to compare that little Fazioli with a mid century American baby grand of the types widely available for free on Craigslist like Story & Clark, George Steck, Vose & Sons etc.
Steinway ist the best in the world!!!!
Steinway
I preffered the Steinway.
Steinway seems more classic and mellow. More full spunding. Fazioli spunds reallu cheap and harsh. At least it does with the bigger versions. The smaller 7-8 foot version is very bright and youthful sounding which I like.
I thought the Steinway sounded more mellow.
if comparing on planes - Steinway is more like premium business jet while Fazioli more like 5-th gen interceptor. you'll get deep and most importantly consistent sound in Steinway but that consistency is a trade-off, and you will never be able to reach variability and expressiveness of Fazioli there. and if you are not at least experienced pianist your performance most certainly than not will sound like s*t on Fazioli even if its tolerable to hear on Steinway. real pro instrument which will not tolerate hands be growing from a bit lower than back.
Hard to say... sometimes the Steinway sound best sometimes the Fazioli. It only shows that every instrument has its songs. Some stride and ragtime often sound better on a slight out of tune upright or spinet. And a lot depends on how the player plays the piece. Nice vid. Thx!
どっちも欲しい😅😂💓✨
Dem Steinway hört man sein Alter an, sehr warm. Ein wunderbares Instrument! Der Fazioli ist eine komplett andere Welt: Die Bässe sind so, wie ein Bösendorfer immer sein wollte, die Brillanz übertrifft, das, wofür Jahrzehnte lang Steinway stand. Der Fazioli ist einfach in allen Kategorien perfekter, ausgewogener und vor allem harmonische: Ob Beethoven oder Debussy, auf Fazioli ist das eine Offenbarung. Ich habe so viele nebeneinander bespielt, Fazioli ist einfach eine eigene Liga! Wenn nur der Preis nicht wäre, selbst bei gebrauchten Instrumenten :-(
I'd love to see a Bechstein in this line up, absolutely the undefeated king of bass and color. Maybe not the best choice for light handed players but if you want rich massive warmth it's the way to go
The 1914 Bluthner 190cm Aliquot grand is my preference
if you close your eyes you are going to notive the stein has more body but the fazioli has more clarity. Clarity is probably a better choice because you can add more body afterwards when recording.
是非一度弾いてみたく素晴らしいです✨✨✨
Fazioli by a nose.
My God they are soo different and both Magnificent))
Fazioli sounds natural very natural with clear separations
IMPOSSIBLE to compare side by side and ALL DEPENDS on the technician who adjusted the action and voicing... MOST pianos sound pretty BAD straight from the manufacturer UNTIL a GOOD certified and experienced Piano Tech works their "magic" upon it!
You can't judge really from youtube, especially if both pianos sound good. You need to play them in the same room for at least three years to appreciate the difference. I prefer the Fazioli, but the Steinway sounds very good as well.
Ben detto, bravo . Da ogni strumento bisogna saper ricavare il massimo. E ci vuole tempo per entrare in sintonia…
Love from Naples
Fazioli nicer.
Fazioli ❤ on gem Genesys and promega
quelle musique est jouer ? what's music is play?
Nocturne de Chopin, la Sonate au clair de lune de Debussy, la Sonate au clair de lune de Beethoven.
I'm italian but Steinway wins
Such comparisons should be blind tests
Steinway is better. Faz sounds plinky. Richer bass on the S&S.
I am not sure what models are they and how they were restored but Ss is very sensitive to touchdown pressure and has a very obvious audible release control window while the F in this video is less in both, while the player has not got the kind of control the SS requires and thus a lot of people will think F is better
in fact fazioli is more sensitive on the keys
Очень большая разница в звуке инструментов. Скорее всего данная разница возникла из-за разных условий записи. А как они звучат "в натуре"?
Can you tune at the same pitch?
Fazioli hands down
Fazioli ❤
In this case Fazioli the winner
Fazioli got the edge!
Fazioli is my favourite. A wonderfully clear-sounding instrument. Super!
there is no comparison. Fazioli timbre is one of the poorest in the market. things is that Steinway here is not well regulated, but it has way more sound, with smooth attack. no other piano is like this.
Clean your hears, no comparison is because this Fazioli is a baby grand
That’s BS
Fazioli Timbre is one of the most resplendent, brilliant recognizable timbre. When you hear one you are struck by it and you know its a Fazioli. A Kawai can be Mistaken for a Steinway; NOTHING can be mistaken for a Fazioli.
@@hastensavoir7782 brilliant, not warm. it is not a rich tone, it is a brilliant one with a sharp attack, which cannot create colors blending notes.
@@LuisKolodin Damn right you are it’s not Warm. Not everyone is a fanatic of WARM. Bosendorfer, Bechstein and so many others aren’t exactly Colorful neither unlike a Mason & Hamlin and Steinway. Fazioli is designed to have a Sunny resonance akin to Italian Opera. The way it should be.
They both sound as if they need fine tuning?
Yeah, sure... tell us more
In this matchup, the S&S is more harminiously blended, seeping through the room, while the Fazioli has a more focused powerful beam-forming resonance that almost electrifies with its buzzing
Both amazing piano's, but that Steinway needs a pair of better looking legs, in my opinion.
In general, Fazioli is better.
99% people watching here never really try or afford to own a well regulated new Steinway or Fazioli. You comparison is nonsense. At least should be a Steinway model C vs Fazioli 228. For Fazioli, 228 is significantly better than a 212. A Steinway B211 is better than O180 all round
Your comment is as inspiring as not creating the video. Thank you for the humour. Also, thanks for the suggestion on the model Steinway Model C Vs 228 Fazioli, we have got a model C, just waiting on the 228 and we will create the video for you 🙏
Well, i have to say that i had the Honor to play a Fazioli in the hall of the factory because i live near Sacile (Veneto). I have to say that Is something that Is not comparable with other pianos. It has something celestial, unique
Fazioli absolutely knocks Steinway out of the park, you can hear the clarity and detail in every nuance in the Fazioli, and the warmth and character in every soft mellow note up to the bright, powerful and open fortissimos, the tonal abilities of the Fazioli absolutely dwarf the Steinway here in every aspect!
A great demonstration of what real craftsmanship does to a piano's sound compared to Steinway!
I have to say though, as far as Steinways go this is a pretty great one, usually they sound a lot more dead compared to this, is this a restored instrument? I find restored Steinways tend to sound significantly better than original ones, probably why Steinway sue restorers lol
I'm not a fan of Steinways but my perception on this particular video was the exact opposite of what you stated, I thought the sound of the Steinway was more detailed and had a warmth and clarity very lacking on the Fazioli. After reading your comment I went back and rewatched the video, I'm using a high quality sony headphones and still could not agree with you, how bizarre.
@@Erainia technically only the official restored Steinway can be called a genuine “restored Steinway “, otherwise it no longer a “Steinway”
@@Erainia I bet you never see a genuine restored Steinway or a well break in and prepared new one by top technician. So stop the BS
@@FrancisAsin-Gioro i mean i literally work in my country's top piano restorations firm, so yeah, I have lmao.
fazioli is the best piano in the world!
Nice Fazioli, but: 212 cm vs 156 cm - not a fair comparison! Steinway's sound is richer and deeper, what a wonder. The Fazioli doesn't stand a chance, all those who speak out in favor of the Fazioli have not yet heard it in real life.