A Full Breakdown of Fate/strange Fake: Whispers of Dawn REACTION & REVIEW!

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  • @CrypticBoss
    @CrypticBoss  Месяц назад +15

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    • @karinakimmy
      @karinakimmy Месяц назад +2

      You are a legend for this 🏆

  • @lunerblade13
    @lunerblade13 Месяц назад +10

    1:30:00 the man may have done most of the work but eventually the command spells passed over him and went to his chimera that was used as the catalyst.
    A similar case happened in apocrypha with Jack. Long story short the mage who summoned Jack used a prostitute as his catalyst. That prostitute eventually got jacks command spell, Jack then killed the mage who summoned them taking his heart as magical energy, and the two eventually left with the prostitute becoming jacks mother. Although because jacks mother wasn’t a proper mage Jack had to keep killing more mages for their hearts to keep herself materialized in the world.

    • @алексейпугачев-л9й
      @алексейпугачев-л9й Месяц назад +3

      A lot of people forget's that it's up to the grail to decide who will get a command seal and become a master.It's just that usually the one who want's to participate will become a master,but as we can see there are cases when a sacrifice shows more promise as a master and thus becoming one

  • @minotaur_king1733
    @minotaur_king1733 Месяц назад +13

    Jack the Ripper is special
    Everytime u summon him/her u will get a different version.
    This is because there are numerous theories about who Jack the Ripper could have been a cop, a demon, and etc.
    _This version of Jack in Apoc_ is
    Base of the story of the number of aborted children who were disposed of in rivers and reached the ten-thousands, the collection of resentment that the children shared eventually formed the shape of a human. Because she was created from children who had yet to even be born, she lacked common sense and morality, and simply killed prostitutes so she could return to the womb. To put it another way, this is the heretical Jack who was born from the “side of the victims”.. **She bascally the collection of the aborted children of prostitutes in Whitechapel, London.**
    - this is why she refer to herself as “we” all the time
    ~ could explain y she called her master “mommy”

    • @lunerblade13
      @lunerblade13 Месяц назад

      What also helps Jacks case is due to the fact that Jack was never identified in life so they could be literally anyone.
      Other servants like Jack are Robin Hood and the Hassan’s but they’re due to the fact that multiple people have used the same title across history.

  • @muhammadharisarrahman153
    @muhammadharisarrahman153 Месяц назад +12

    Lol talking about the "Spider" is definitely gonna confused Cryptic 😂

  • @Sonu8KD
    @Sonu8KD Месяц назад +3

    6:43 fun fact, that rainbow glow were added later (it was not in the 1st 5 min clip) and it's a reference to fgo when we get a 5* (in fgo rainbow orbs = guaranteed 5*)
    9:44 this is probably the biggest mistake gil has done in this series

  • @karinakimmy
    @karinakimmy Месяц назад +23

    Making this video FREE on Patreon?! You are truly one of a kind in the Fate community. My friends got into Fate because of your reactions too. I hope this channel blows up 🥰🏆

    • @CrypticBoss
      @CrypticBoss  Месяц назад +1

      @@karinakimmy thank youu and it's amazing to see more people get into Fate!

  • @chaeyongz
    @chaeyongz Месяц назад +5

    You actually read and reply to your viewers which I think is so nice that not others do. Love the video and can't wait for episode 1!!

    • @TheOneRin
      @TheOneRin Месяц назад

      I love YOU

    • @CrypticBoss
      @CrypticBoss  Месяц назад

      Responding to you guys is my favorite thing 💯❤️

  • @Minoru_Kageno.
    @Minoru_Kageno. Месяц назад +1

    10:07 just key to summon his strongest treasure-Enuma Elish
    26:32 if servant doesn't want master, they can just kill master, but to manifest into this world they need mana, that mean they can after killing their master, stay in this world for some hours, but archers can be in this world more then 2 days
    But they can kill others or farm by some ways Mana and exist in this world without master

  • @antialpaka1186
    @antialpaka1186 Месяц назад +3

    I like how Zelretch says that the "giant spider" will awaken, like he isn't talking about an Ultiamte One, an alien from the Oort Cloud that was called by the earth to (if I remember correctly) kill all life .... or something like that.

    • @Kira569-s6l
      @Kira569-s6l Месяц назад +5

      that alien is an Ultimate one bruh its name is ORT

    • @lightgod2255
      @lightgod2255 29 дней назад

      @@Kira569-s6l yeah, and not to mention is stupidly overpowered. if i remember correctly the human in our current era have no way to kill that thing. only the next lifeforms after humanity will be able to combat it and the EARTH's Rule does not apply to ORT in the first place, because it is exist naturally and yet was not from earth at the same time.

  • @wheresprototype3507
    @wheresprototype3507 Месяц назад

    49:15 Basically, an easy way to understand is. He's got amnesia, and he's been told who he was by an outside source.

  • @FloydGeorge-u6d
    @FloydGeorge-u6d Месяц назад +1

    I think the frying pan sound effect is about pulling the mana directly from the dragon's meridian

  • @lunerblade13
    @lunerblade13 Месяц назад +1

    1:37:59 every laugh in every language is a treasure from him thus his title of “Gigglemesh”

  • @TheCriticallybasic
    @TheCriticallybasic Месяц назад

    Mild Correction:
    Hi Cryptic! Love your reaction to fate. Just a mild correction on 9:12 - He's the King of Heroes. The King of Kings is Ozymandias. ;)

  • @ChrisJZedStormzone-fz8od
    @ChrisJZedStormzone-fz8od Месяц назад

    Theirs a servant being revealed later in the manga/LN (Light novel) named Pale Rider whos one of the horseman of the apocalypse
    Edit: 1:43:34 This may be a spoiler or not be warned that girl extremely special

  • @Sonu8KD
    @Sonu8KD Месяц назад

    1:39:56 it's not just a dog, it's a chimera (originally a chimera is a hybrid of lion+snake+goat) basically a enhance wolf with magic circuits, that guy made them to probably serve him as magic battery.(like seig in apocrypha)

  • @notbadrule9883
    @notbadrule9883 Месяц назад +1

    So basically in this Fate/Strange Fake
    Fake Archer = Gilgamesh
    Fake Lancer = Enkidu
    Fake Rider = Rider of ???
    Fake Caster = the Writer/Author
    Fake Assassin = the female Hassan
    Fake Berserker = Jack the Ripper
    And later on, the True Servants enter the scene:
    True Saber = the protagonist at the end
    True Archer = ???
    True Lancer = ???
    True Rider = ???
    True Caster = ???
    True Assassin = ???
    True Berserker = ???

  • @Vi.Vi.4527
    @Vi.Vi.4527 Месяц назад +1

    Bro be ready to learn what Fate prototype and labyrinth are, cause there are plot points you can't figure out if you don't know the full sayjou family lore.
    And not just the prototype short.
    This is actually the fate where you must be a master of everything to understand. The gave a reference in the first EP (50 minutes one) to a creature that Nasu created 20 years ago yet appeared in FGO only 2+ years after the first novel.

  • @алексейпугачев-л9й
    @алексейпугачев-л9й Месяц назад

    Ruler was a thing in stay night and zero,just as Avenger.Side material's shows that and Jeanne was indicated to be the poster for this class.The reason why ruler not appeared in stay night and zero is because they were broken by those who knew how the Grail sustem works (Zouken,Einzbern's and later Medea because she also figured out how it works).Their changes to the sustem was suble enough to not enable Grail's wrath and summon a Ruler.

  • @Sonu8KD
    @Sonu8KD Месяц назад

    1:45:21 it's enkidu another ability, it can create anything from earth(weapons Nobel phantasms and even guns since Enkidu were born from it. Also he can access gate of babylon as well

  • @Sonu8KD
    @Sonu8KD Месяц назад

    26:47 yes they can kill their masters, that's why command spells exist, also no, they won't disappear immediately, as long as they have magic power, or a way to refill their magic they can continue to exist

  • @lunerblade13
    @lunerblade13 Месяц назад

    26:55 normally they wouldn’t be able to due to command spells binding the servant to their master but their are exceptions depending on the mindset of the particular servant.
    Also when a servants master dies the servant doesn’t immediately disappear but they would have lost their mana supply and would need to find means to fuel themselves or eventually dissipate due to lack of mana.
    Servants with the “independent action” skill take longer to dissipate compared to servants without it representing that servants ability to survive on their own typically found in archer servants.

  • @mordred1333
    @mordred1333 Месяц назад

    Oh boy this is gonna be a long one so uh keep with me I guess. Or don’t either way I’ll try to explain everything without spoilers.
    10:04 So back when Gil was alive, I guess he got bored one day or like a lot of us had an idea and thought “wow I’m a genius” and after having the key made I guess he realized it was pointless. The key can open and close his gate of Babylon but he can already do that without any key or item so the key is kinda useless for Gil. You can probably see where this is going. 10:18 While it is important I doubt that the reason it’s important will be shown in the first few episodes and you can see why it’s important when what happens ends up happening.
    11:30 She had heard stories of how Gilgamesh was in the previous 4th and 5th grail wars. She was not planning to make the same mistakes as Gilgamesh’s previous masters.
    12:28 So that’s mostly because it’s Archer Gilgamesh who wears it. When summoned as an archer he’s his younger self from around the time he adventured with Enkidu. Living Gil from Babylonia was older and more wise and understanding of others. 14:20 I wouldn’t say Gil got humbled, more like he understood humans better at the end of his journey.
    17:29 kinda. I mean there’s obviously not constant fighting, just a lot of fighting but also a lot of talking. I wouldn’t say it’s anymore than most other Fate anime. 21:07 Yea the manga is very slow. Especially the translations so most people that read it just read the LN.
    21:34 Na Waver truly wanted to stay out of the war. The “relic” was just something he won with luck and planned to give Flat to distract and keep Flat away from the war.
    26:17 Some people believed that magecraft is an act against god or blasphemous in someway. 26:31 Of course. Most servants wouldn’t because they want the grail or some other reason but if they wanted to they could. Some could even ignore command spells if they wanted to. 26:47 No, they have to run out of mana or sustain a massive amount of damage to start disappearing. 26:56 Not working under someone you dislike or to stop someone from misusing your power.
    30:03 Gilgamesh fighting Flat, Flat would get killed. There is a way that Flat could fight Gilgamesh but in a continuous 1v1 fight even with “that” he’d get killed.
    32:06 Funnily enough the Church also kinda uses magecraft just under a different name. Although some things used are legitimate holy artifacts.
    32:41 Different beliefs. Many religions have different “sects”. Especially the more widespread religions like Christianity. Even Hellenism(worship of the Olympian pantheon) has dozens of different interpretations and beliefs.
    35:13 Yea the parents of the little girl in the hospital are not good people. They planned to use their daughter for the war in some way. I can’t remember what exactly or if it was ever fully explained but they were planning to use her like a tool. 36:30 No the war IS happening in the US. It’s happening somewhere in Nevada. I don’t know if Snowfield is a made up city or not though. 37:36 Flat is not fine… in fact he’s the opposite of fine. He’s very very not fine.
    38:28 There’s different mage ranks. The lowest is Frame and Count, after the incineration of humanity in FGO Ritsuka Fujimaru despite lacking in magecraft capabilities was granted the rank of Cause for saving humanity which is the third lowest rank. The highest rank is Grand lower is what most of the mage association and clock tower lords have which is Brand. Bellow that is Pride the third highest rank. Waver as a Clocktower Lord has the rank bellow Pride called Fes. Of course there is a special rank given to the greatest and most exceptional mages outside the normal ranks which are color ranks. Touko Aozaki has the color rank of Red and her sister Aoko has the rank Blue.
    39:43 Remember this isn’t a proper grail war, anything can happen even the summoning of more than 7 servants is possible. 41:16 Yes. Enkidu and Kingu can change their body however they want. Even raise and lower their parameters. Also the Dead Apostle Jester.
    42:00 Some servants can be summoned very differently. There’s the true Jack the ripper from Apocrypha and then there’s the myth of Jack the ripper in Strange Fake. Jack the Ripper summoned as their more mysterious and mystical self that the majority of the public sees them as. The servant Charlemagne is similar. He can be summoned as his mythical more magical self or his more historical well known self.
    42:51 There’s multiple protagonists in Strange Fake although there is one that gets called the protagonist but really there’s like 4 protagonists in strange fake.
    45:36 No. They were never caught. There’s still investigations and documentaries going on hundreds of years later.
    48:42 Well most servants have killed someone at some point. Some have done worse than killing people. Most servants remember everything they did in life. Some regret it and others don’t care.
    53:39 He is a Dead Apostle. Although he’s the only one we’ve seen with the ability to replace his heart and change his body like that. Dead Apostles also resist the human order so they have a slight resistance to things like humans and things related to the human order. The stronger Dead Apostles are around the level of divine spirits.
    1:04:28 So this isn’t real. It’s more so a dream shown to her by her servant. Also this is what happens when a very powerful concept gets summoned with a consciousness bad things can happen. 1:05:08 because he’s talking to castor.
    1:07:31 He basically makes fake noble phantasms that have the potential to become true noble phantasms although that potential would take the wilder of the fake a lot of hardship to become real noble phantasms. 1:08:05 It should be noted that even that skill which lets him make pseudo noble phantasms he’d need help in order to defeat Gilgamesh. His master is trying to gather enough fake noble phantasms and subordinates to defeat Gilgamesh.
    1:09:05 He can only make pseudo noble phantasms. Weapons like Excalibur are beyond his capabilities. Although he could probably make a fake version that might rival Caliburn. To be specific to what I’m saying it’s revealed that they aren’t true noble phantasms but they have the potential to become true noble phantasms after the wielder awakens to them.
    1:12:51 To tell you would be a massive spoiler. She’s very important to Strange fakes grail war. 1:15:42 It’s not a true grail war. The grail isn’t being summoned where it was originally supposed to and they’ve modified the rules a little.
    1:20:52 mehhhh rulers get summoned if something bad might happen or if there’s many participants in a grail war. Most of our lore on rulers comes from Apocrypha so we don’t know everything.
    1:26:31 so in strange fake there’s 7 fake servants and 7 real ones. The difference between the two types is basically the reason they were summoned aside from that they’re almost the same. Gilgamesh for example is Fake Archer.
    1:29:36 no the chimera did. The chimera got the command spells and summoned Enkidu. Kinda. A servant could always kill their master and try to find another if they wanted too. Most masters wouldn’t be able to react in time if a servant were to attack them. He was trying to summon a divine spirit but that’s impossible in most grail wars so the next best thing that’s on the level of a divine spirit was summoned.
    1:34:15 Gilgamesh’s Dub VA is also really good. 1:37:09 Enkidu has the highest ranking presence detection skill there is. So powerful in fact that he can sense things all over the entire planet and even some things on the reverse side of the world. 1:38:47 there are some differences. This one he uses to show off unlocked the deepest part of his treasury where Ea is. 1:40:11 Well it is a chimera, a magically engineered and modified creature. Enkidu also talks about how they can understand it.
    1:42:28 While Enkidu says he’s going all out it’s obvious and even later revealed that he was saving some stuff for their next duel.
    1:45:40 he was cupping his ears so he could better hear Gil’s laughter. 1:45:52 They both knew that wouldn’t be enough to kill each other. In life they fought for either 3 or 7 days and nights without rest before stopping I can’t remember but I’m pretty sure it was 7. Na the would have kept going for a while then probably stoped to enjoy being around each other without fighting.
    1:48:50 So Zelretch in some timelines became a Dead Apostle Ancestor one of which being this timeline. He’s the man who discovered the 2nd true magic Kaleidoscope. It has to do with parallel worlds. He uses it to draw out almost infinite mana from parallel worlds. 1:48:56 as I’m sure you’ve been informed the giant spider refers to the Ultimate One ORT.
    1:49:59 She’s been stated to have a mysterious amount of mana. Different timelines, she looks and has the same name but she might be something else. At least as far as you’re concerned with spoilers. 1:50:45 In prototype she summoned Proto Arthur. Basically male King Arthur more like irl.
    1:09:34 well since it’s not a spoiler really since they’ve already appeared I’ll tell you unless you don’t read this part.
    The lancer. It’s Enkidu.

  • @hakuya14
    @hakuya14 Месяц назад +2

    There's a good video essay on the irl Jack the Ripper by Lemmino if you ever want to know about the irl Jack the Ripper killings and the primary suspects.

  • @Nanii_nani
    @Nanii_nani Месяц назад +1

    Yes the key is extremely important i hope you dont forget it once this fate gets a full serialisation, it did lead to something beautiful tho one way or the other

  • @platogkrone7161
    @platogkrone7161 Месяц назад +8

    10:10 Because Gilgamesh's arrogance is basically a mental illness by now.

  • @Goetia16999
    @Goetia16999 Месяц назад

    59:23 imagine Gilgamesh dialogue about ilya caster😂 plucking her heart out. No memories about fate UBW. but body remembers in FGO

  • @antoniogaravo9289
    @antoniogaravo9289 Месяц назад

    the old man in space during the post credit scene is zelretch, a true magician capable of traveling/observing parallel universes.
    he has to be very carefull with his abilities, because him intervening in a timeline or observing it for to long makes it the "real" timeline and erase all other possibilites from that point on, so he can't do what he wants because it risks locking the world into a bad ending.
    talking about what he is doing in that scene is spoiler tho.

  • @gamerzilla6113
    @gamerzilla6113 Месяц назад +8

    Will you consider reacting Arcane? Last episodes just dropped.

    • @CrypticBoss
      @CrypticBoss  Месяц назад +5

      If you guys would be interested then I definitely don't mind checking it out!!

    • @gamerzilla6113
      @gamerzilla6113 Месяц назад +4

      @CrypticBoss Definitely, since show is very beloved.

    • @karinakimmy
      @karinakimmy Месяц назад +2

      This would be amazing!

  • @Goetia16999
    @Goetia16999 Месяц назад

    1:04:19 the parents supposed to be a master but the girl got the command seal first and unconsciously summoned the death itself 💀 spoiler
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    Pale rider one of the horsemen of the apocalypse. Can one shot all the servants literally.

  • @lelandcheng9187
    @lelandcheng9187 Месяц назад

    This happens years after case file so you will see quite a couple familiar faces like gray that has aged up

  • @Kira569-s6l
    @Kira569-s6l Месяц назад

    The "Giant Spider" is the strongest shit we have ever seen in fate it was name dropped 22 years ago then got revealed in fgo after 22 years

  • @vanilla4486
    @vanilla4486 Месяц назад +1

    53:15 that is not how his powers work
    It as in this jack is the story without physical form and can take the form of anything from the story of jack the ripper
    He can only transform into things that are in the story of jack the ripper so like it was shown here
    Policeman
    female prostitute
    And watch
    1:47:37 actually this second clash of enuma elish is stronger then the last because gilgamesh absorbed the mana of the weapons on the ground to power EA even more
    And the first NP clash was so big it covered almost half of the planet in a flower shape something it was either the shield enkidu made or the blast that enkidu sent to the sky in a flower shape

  • @pejman3
    @pejman3 Месяц назад

    1:04:50 I love the manga style art shift with the dots and all xD

  • @whendarknessfalls6969
    @whendarknessfalls6969 Месяц назад +1

    Soo this jack the ripper is based on the legend around Jack. Where Assassin jack is the "real jack of fate" a collecting of souls from all the aborted babies in white chapel from the prostitutes. The church exercised the spirits and the murders stopped unsolved in the public eye.

  • @GuyFromTheFarNorth
    @GuyFromTheFarNorth Месяц назад

    Now you understand what would have happened to Shirou if Gilgamesh had wanted to deal with him "seriously" right away, instead of lazily launching weapons from his Treasury. Shirou would have mentally said goodbye to his life, without any hope, if Gilgamesh had been as serious against him as he was with Enkidu in this fight.

  • @leonardozapeta2054
    @leonardozapeta2054 Месяц назад +1

    Hi cryptic, biggturtle1513 here. I missed a lot of your stream today. But hope you get some sleep sense you were reacting the hole day

    • @CrypticBoss
      @CrypticBoss  Месяц назад +1

      I really appreciate it!! I'll definitely try to sleep more today since my body just wakes me up in 4hrs which is so annoying. Yesterday was definitely one of my longest streams of all time 😅

  • @fullmango1
    @fullmango1 Месяц назад

    1) ruler is not only Jeanne d'arc , someone else can be the ruler class if this serie have a ruler class !
    moreover over the years, new classes have been created in addition to the first seven classes : ruler , alter ego , foreigner , pretender , shielder , beast
    2) fake Caster means fake Caster , no more , no less , no spoil !

  • @Xphong105
    @Xphong105 Месяц назад +2

    At the end of this episode, u has encountered the new class servant: the Spectator

  • @pejman3
    @pejman3 Месяц назад

    As for why there is a fake and real war
    remember that we had a lesser grail and a greater grail in the fate stay night (especially mentioned in heaven's fell and apocrypha). The lesser grail (homonculus heart/cup) and the greater grail which is under the temple (which we saw in HF and that they stole and moved to romania in apocrypha). The way the war works is we need to kill servants to fill the lesser grail with mana which kickstarts the greater grail and allows to get to the root (or in HF case it will birth angry mango). Well the fake war in snowfield is like a way to kick start the real one. They couldn't make the Holy grail war system work correctly. Remeber in HF how it took sacrifice and rituals to set up in the flashback to make the jeweled sword. In apocrypha they literally stole the whole mountain that had the greater grail so it's technically the same grail war just elsewhere, but in snowfield it's an actual copy so they have to do extra work to make it start.

  • @minotaur_king1733
    @minotaur_king1733 Месяц назад +1

    Would u ever post the karna lore video on RUclips or is tht Patreon exclusive

  • @manofkelcher984
    @manofkelcher984 Месяц назад

    U could say, strange fake is pretty lore heavy lyk any other fate. But it connects to most of the other ones in the universe. Also got dope fight scenes. Got both dialog and action. Also the characters are pretty well written. And one of the masters is gonna be a surprise for anyone whose never read the ln or manga. Bro's an absolute sigma (if u know u know). And his story 🤌

  • @FloydGeorge-u6d
    @FloydGeorge-u6d Месяц назад +1

    The little girl is basically Sakura, but instead of worms, her's are virus.

  • @lunerblade13
    @lunerblade13 Месяц назад

    1:40:08 it wanted to live and that single desire summoned enkidu.

  • @Jadejewelrybox
    @Jadejewelrybox Месяц назад

    1:41:27 Smart but stupid is sadly just what it seems. The fact that anime onlies for Case Files don't understand the basics of Flat without even a proper introduction or hint because it skipped over the arcs that included him and will not continue to adapt the arc after Rail Zeppelin shows just how much that anime has failed for Fake's continuity. And that's just Flat. The child's a genius yet they used him for comedic relief and nothing else in case files anime and ignoring the buildup it has for Fake entirely. Context absolutely matters and knowledge of the prior series IS VERY IMPORTANT for that build up but it still gets tackled thankfully. And that's JUST Flat, don't forget, he has an equal that is treated even worse by case files anime. Everything is intertwined and shows how much strange Fake is a love letter to Fate, and strange Fake is in ways a closure of dilemmas that started in case files. Dilemmas that were not started much less that tackled at all in case files anime. Either way, it'll be a very very fun ride and will make sense, just not the culmination of years and years of buildup and loose threads being lovingly tied up that it was for some characters.

    • @nelisezpasce
      @nelisezpasce Месяц назад

      Yeah, ideally an adaptation would keep all the important bits and only do away with minor details that viewers can still get later by reading the source material...
      If the [incomplete] Case Files adaptation failed to properly portray Flat (originally from FSF), then the Strange Fake adaptation could compensate by adding extra scenes.
      Sounds like forced heavy lifting to fix somebody else's mess, doesn't it?

  • @алексейпугачев-л9й
    @алексейпугачев-л9й Месяц назад

    Chat is trying it's best to explain without spoilers but with fake war situation it's kinda impossible...

  • @Goetia16999
    @Goetia16999 Месяц назад

    1:26:47 fake war. fate fake strange, before
    Real war Fate prototype.

  • @vedP-02
    @vedP-02 Месяц назад

    it's will be 12 am for me when its live

  • @Sonu8KD
    @Sonu8KD Месяц назад

    1:39:00 well they did it 7 times

  • @YZcreats4880
    @YZcreats4880 Месяц назад

    I could have sworn you have reacted to this fate or am I tripping 😅

    • @CrypticBoss
      @CrypticBoss  Месяц назад +1

      5:08 I talk about it in the intro

  • @Daronkil
    @Daronkil Месяц назад

    With recent events from FGO, may you forever not look at the moon, for it just got worse lmao.